Re: updating to the latest snap, but still waiting for the update to finish
Robert Mendoza
Hi, Michael
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Normally, the version of snapshot often times to be tested for quality if you curious how it works, but again it's up to you to test. Some here were eager to be tester to themselves to help our developers to improves the function wise. Otherwise, go with stable rather. Again, it is advisable to use snapshot to testing machine or have it save to flash drive. Robert Mendoza
On 12/7/2017 2:44 PM, Michael Capelle wrote:
just curious, why would you want to run a snap shot?
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Re: Windows 10 ADVISORY: you need to use NVDA 2017.4 if you want to install it on Windows 10 on ARM
Hi,
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It'll depend on what apps you're using, if a restart fixed the problem and what not. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marisane Moruthanyana Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 10:25 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 ADVISORY: you need to use NVDA 2017.4 if you want to install it on Windows 10 on ARM Morning Joseph This is Marisane from SA. I posted a concern previously but without any assistance from colleagues. I hear you that one must move to nvda 2017.4 for effectiveness and efficiency. I use nvda 2017.3 and it gives me problems. It freezes easily, goes unresponsive when I run multiple application and when am on internet. What is the problem with that? Out of curiosity, what is win10 fall creators? Your assistance is appreciated in advance. Kind regards Marisane On 12/7/17, tim <z2004a1@gmail.com> wrote: They mostly use that chip in tablets and some low end laptops.On Dec 6, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Gene New Zealand
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Re: updating to the latest snap, but still waiting for the update to finish
Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
just curious, why would you want to run a snap shot?
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i typically tell people to run the stable versions.
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From: Sarah k Alawami Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 12:42 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] updating to the latest snap, but still waiting for the update to finish Ok, I retarted my computer using the command prompt and all worked. I have no clue what happened, or why but I hoep what ever happened does not happen again. Any clue as to what went on? The update worked this time. Take care On Dec 6, 2017, at 9:55 PM, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: updating to the latest snap, but still waiting for the update to finish
Ok, I retarted my computer using the command prompt and all worked. I have no clue what happened, or why but I hoep what ever happened does not happen again. Any clue as to what went on? The update worked this time.
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Take care
On Dec 6, 2017, at 9:55 PM, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Windows 10 ADVISORY: you need to use NVDA 2017.4 if you want to install it on Windows 10 on ARM
Marisane Moruthanyana
Morning Joseph
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This is Marisane from SA. I posted a concern previously but without any assistance from colleagues. I hear you that one must move to nvda 2017.4 for effectiveness and efficiency. I use nvda 2017.3 and it gives me problems. It freezes easily, goes unresponsive when I run multiple application and when am on internet. What is the problem with that? Out of curiosity, what is win10 fall creators? Your assistance is appreciated in advance. Kind regards Marisane
On 12/7/17, tim <z2004a1@gmail.com> wrote:
They mostly use that chip in tablets and some low end laptops.On Dec 6, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Gene New Zealand
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updating to the latest snap, but still waiting for the update to finish
I think I have a very broken nvda update. I followed the directions. The update downloaded, however I still hear the beeps saying it's updating etc et etc. I tried to close out but no joy. Narrator is not telling me much either. Running nvda latest snap on windows 10 pro..
Take care all.
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NVDA 2017.4 and the version of espeak-ng packaged with it
Sharni-Lee Ward
I updated NVDA this morning and have been periodically jarred out of my
reading by things being pronounced differently, and in my opinion, unnecessarily so. For example, the phrases "for the" and "for a" are pronounced with unnecessary emphasis on the first word in them, the "i" in possible is annunciated more clearly than I feel it should be, the word "fantasy" has more emphasis on the first syllable than it needs and sounds slower as a result, words like "latest" sound like they end with "ist" instead of "est" (I don't understand this one at all, as they were pronounced just fine before), and words that end with n or an n sound followed by a word beginning with a hard c or g sound as if they're being smushed together ("in games" comes out sounding like "ing games"). Also, words like "they're" and "our" are more drawn out than they should be. It's honestly distracting and I don't think I'll ever get used to most of them to be perfectly frank.
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Re: Browsing hierarchical tree of comments
Adriani Botez
Gene,
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Why not creating an issue on github about that? I think your idea is very worth to think about. Best Adriani
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Re: JAWS User Looking for Guidance in Getting Started with NVDA.
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi
Do you mean by keyboard navigation the usual?
Like using the arrow keys tab etc etc.
You would find it quite easy to pick up.
Depending if you install nvda to your pc you will have the choice of the desktop layout or a lap top layout for your keyboard.
If you install nvda to your pc it is the alt key + ctrl key + letter N to start nvda. To get into your preferences is the nvda key + the letter N To quit your copy of nvda is the nvda key + the letter Q
Where i refer to the nvda key this is a modifier key and can be the insert key the extended insert key or the caps lock key. You would use one of the with a key to turn off nvda. for example if the insert key is chosen you would use the insert key + letter Q to turn off nvda.
NVDA comes default with the e speak synth but you can use other free or paid synths.
The synth you are talking about is a commercial one and can come as a add on or a sapi 5 version at a cost.
There are keys combo that are simular to jaws and plus you can change them if needed. The following link may help you to answer some of your questions at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/FAQ Gene nz
On 12/7/2017 3:41 PM, Kenny wrote:
Hello, --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers.
To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert exam.
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Re: JAWS User Looking for Guidance in Getting Started with NVDA.
Quentin Christensen
Hi Kenny, Firstly, while it partly depends on which parts of Jaws and which parts of NVDA you rely on most, yes, NVDA's keystrokes are broadly similar to those used by Jaws. By default the NVDA key is Insert, and on a laptop you may prefer to set it to caps lock. In desktop layout, to read the current line is NVDA+up arrow (NVDA+L on laptop) and to read from the current point onwards is NVDA+down arrow (laptop layout is NVDA+A), and many other commands such as NVDA+T and so on work the same. A community project was to write a transition guide for those like yourself moving from Jaws to NVDA, so that would be worth reading: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA To the second part of your question, the version of Eloquence you got with Jaws is licensed to Jaws only, so you won't be able to use it. The good news is that you can purchase eloquence for NVDA. There are two versions, a SAPI version, which will work with any program that can use SAPI voices, and a version specifically tailored for NVDA. Different people have different opinions on which is better (and indeed, there is a discussion on this list currently on that very topic), but what I would suggest, is try the demo version of each and see which you prefer. Links available from: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/ExtraVoices Kind regards Quentin.
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...> wrote: Hello, --
Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: Windows 10 ADVISORY: you need to use NVDA 2017.4 if you want to install it on Windows 10 on ARM
tim
They mostly use that chip in tablets and some low end laptops.
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Re: Navigating Text since NVDA 2017.3
Quentin Christensen
Well, to those who need the answer, that you got the information out there is as important a part of the process as Tyler in tracking it down. A team effort :)
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Damien Sykes <damien@...> wrote:
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Re: question re nvaccess site and training materials
Quentin Christensen
Mary, Yes, Outlook is something we were thinking of, just haven't got to it yet :) Regards Quentin.
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Mary Otten <maryotten@...> wrote:
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JAWS User Looking for Guidance in Getting Started with NVDA.
Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
Hello,
I'm a current user of the latest build of JAWS 2018. Using Eloquence as my software synth. Well the time has come that I can no longer afford to pay the Freedom Scientific SMA JAWS upgrades (Been using JAWS for over 20 years), so I'm turning to NVDA. My first two questions: Does NVDA use a keyboard navigation system similar to JAWS? If not, is there a way I can configure it to work this way? Also can I configure NVDA to use the Eloquence module currently installed on my PC (Thanks to JAWS?) If not, is there a NVDA software synth available that's just as good to use? Thanks for any help.
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Re: Can NVDA 2017.4 run on Windows IOT?
Hi,
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In short, NVDA isn't compatible with Windows 10 IoT Core nor Raspberry Pi. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 7:24 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Can NVDA 2017.4 run on Windows IOT? Hi Joseph, I see what you are getting at. I was confused by the reference to arm processors in the release notes and the different versions of windows. I have read more and see that nvda is being future ready to handle newer devices like always connected pcs that will use arm processors. Pranav On 07-Dec-2017, at 6:28 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Can NVDA 2017.4 run on Windows IOT?
Hi Joseph,
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I see what you are getting at. I was confused by the reference to arm processors in the release notes and the different versions of windows. I have read more and see that nvda is being future ready to handle newer devices like always connected pcs that will use arm processors. Pranav
On 07-Dec-2017, at 6:28 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Navigating Text since NVDA 2017.3
Damien Garwood
Hi,
Actually, Tyler did all the tracking down, I simply put it out here for
people to understand what was going on. I still don’t quite understand the
magnitude of the issue myself. I noticed the issue, Tyler told me what it was
and how to change it, I changed it and verified that it worked, I “published”,
if you will, the results.
Cheers.
Damien.
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigating Text since NVDA
2017.3 Damien,
Well tracked down :) Quentin. On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Damien Sykes <damien@...> wrote:
Quentin
Christensen
Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification
now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: Power Point presentation access
ely.r@...
Sorry, I didn’t answer your question. I am running Office 365.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Which version of Office are you using? Certainly in recent versions, NVDA should work fine in presentation mode. One big trick to look out for however, is when creating a slideshow, you can set bullet point "animations" where each bullet point (or other object on a slide) only appears as you press enter / right arrow etc. This works visually, but NVDA reads the whole slide as soon as it loads. The best workaround at this stage is ideally to not use animations for now (slide transitions are a separate thing - they control how each slide appears or replaces the last, and they are fine) or to use them consistently, press control as soon as each slide loads, and then as you press enter to load each bullet, press down arrow to have NVDA read you the line.
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 1:37 AM, <ely.r@...> wrote:
-- Quentin Christensen
Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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Re: OT: selecting a new laptop is more difficult than before
Don H
Any positive or negative comments concerning NVDA on a Microsoft Surface Pro along with its available keyboard?
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Re: Power Point presentation access
ely.r@...
Knowing this, I will use your suggestions and see how it works. I have a totally blind friend who is a JAWS user and who will be teaching a course at a local community college and wants to use the previous instructors Power Point presentations. I have not had access to these, so who knows what is on the slides. I’ll see if she will send me a sample. Not sure if she would want to try NVDA, but sounds like the one way she may have that access. Again, thanks Rick
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Which version of Office are you using? Certainly in recent versions, NVDA should work fine in presentation mode. One big trick to look out for however, is when creating a slideshow, you can set bullet point "animations" where each bullet point (or other object on a slide) only appears as you press enter / right arrow etc. This works visually, but NVDA reads the whole slide as soon as it loads. The best workaround at this stage is ideally to not use animations for now (slide transitions are a separate thing - they control how each slide appears or replaces the last, and they are fine) or to use them consistently, press control as soon as each slide loads, and then as you press enter to load each bullet, press down arrow to have NVDA read you the line.
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 1:37 AM, <ely.r@...> wrote:
-- Quentin Christensen
Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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