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Re: Built NVDA from source

Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...>
 

Yeah surprisingly it was not hard. Flummoxed if you have VS 2015 community as it and windows SDK 7.1a SDK don't play at all nice with each other, so I removed it and installed VS 2015 express, I don't need all of community's features anyway

On 4/25/2016 11:38 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:
Hi brandan that is awesome. I am thinking about messing around with the nvda source code my self. I thought about creating a add on for the pandora app for windows. The app is usable but requires object navigation to move around the list of stations.
I also enjoyed the first half of nvda con 2016.
Kenny Peyatt Jr.

On 4/25/2016 11:19 PM, Brandon Cross wrote:
So yeah, I did it, wasn't particularly hard, considering other projects that I've built from the past, but still, kinda cool that I pulled it off at a ll, had to fiddle around and remove VS 2015 community and go ahead and get VS 2015 express then it all went down like clockwork

Oh, so Hi, I'm Brandon, Been using NVDA since about 10 years or so, just enjoyed the first half of NVDACon 2015 and new to the list.




Fillable PDF Forms & NVDA

 

I could be completely confused, misremembering something, or, well, something else, but I could swear that I remember there being an NVDA command that one could use to get the name of the field you've landed in when working with a fillable PDF.

I was just trying out the IRS Form 1040 from the 2015 tax year, and could swear that at one point I saw somebody hitting a specific keyboard shortcut to get NVDA to announce the form field you'd landed in, e.g., last name, first name, etc.  In fact, I seem to recall seeing NVDA (or maybe it was JAWS) announcing the name of the form field you were landing in as you tabbed through a fillable PDF form as you tabbed through it.

Tonight I'm only getting "blank" when I land in a fillable field and I can tell I'm in focus mode when I land in it and am able to shift to browse mode via NVDA+Spacebar, but can't get any further in getting the field name announced then.

Is there a way to get the name of the field that you're supposed to be filling in announced so that you know what you should be typing?  [I realize this can't work if the form wasn't designed with accessibility in mind, but I thought the federal tax forms that you download from the IRS website had been so for some years now.] 

Brian
-- 
The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.
      ~ H.L. Mencken

    



Re: Built NVDA from source

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi brandan that is awesome. I am thinking about messing around with the nvda source code my self. I thought about creating a add on for the pandora app for windows. The app is usable but requires object navigation to move around the list of stations.
I also enjoyed the first half of nvda con 2016.
Kenny Peyatt Jr.

On 4/25/2016 11:19 PM, Brandon Cross wrote:
So yeah, I did it, wasn't particularly hard, considering other projects that I've built from the past, but still, kinda cool that I pulled it off at a ll, had to fiddle around and remove VS 2015 community and go ahead and get VS 2015 express then it all went down like clockwork

Oh, so Hi, I'm Brandon, Been using NVDA since about 10 years or so, just enjoyed the first half of NVDACon 2015 and new to the list.


Re: duplicate messages

Robert Mendoza
 

I would assume that she is receiving multiple messages with one subject line. But, again it really depend on the others users how they responded , instead of using one email thread. to avoid cluttering into inbox. Or, I would say that the said email recipients has this type of norms is being setup.
Robert Mendoza
On 4/26/2016 11:08 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Cindy,

          Can you be more specific with regard to which messages and topics?  I had been seeing quite a few on this group, and started a thread dedicated to some of the reasons they might be occurring, but that has died down quite a bit since it was at it's peak a about 5 or 6 days ago.  I haven't seen any over the last several days.

Brian
-- 
The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.
      ~ H.L. Mencken

    




Built NVDA from source

Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...>
 

So yeah, I did it, wasn't particularly hard, considering other projects that I've built from the past, but still, kinda cool that I pulled it off at a ll, had to fiddle around and remove VS 2015 community and go ahead and get VS 2015 express then it all went down like clockwork

Oh, so Hi, I'm Brandon, Been using NVDA since about 10 years or so, just enjoyed the first half of NVDACon 2015 and new to the list.


Re: duplicate messages

 

Cindy,

          Can you be more specific with regard to which messages and topics?  I had been seeing quite a few on this group, and started a thread dedicated to some of the reasons they might be occurring, but that has died down quite a bit since it was at it's peak a about 5 or 6 days ago.  I haven't seen any over the last several days.

Brian
-- 
The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.
      ~ H.L. Mencken

    



Re: NVDA and a free office

V Stuart Foote
 

The F6 and F10 keys are rather helpful in both LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice, suggest a close read of these resources:


https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Shortcuts_Accessibility

https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/General_Shortcut_Keys_in


Note: the dynamic nature of development in LibreOffice has led to a number of changes in the User Interface--notably some menu and dialog items that are listed in the wiki and on-line help files are not always correct and the documentation needs additional updating.  Just ask if you get stuck -- LibreOffice Nabble based mail list is here http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Accessibility-f2006038.html  and LibreOffice runs an Ask forum here: https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/questions/

Unfortunately the Apache OpenOffice Accessibility documentation was not updated following implementation of IAccessible2 support and still refers to MSAA support via Java Accessibility and the Java Accessibility Bridge.  However a vibrant user forum is still available to assist here: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/index.php


Stuart


duplicate messages

slery <slerythema@...>
 

Does anyone know why I am getting duplicate messages on every other message? It is extremely annoying and I also had several messages that I deleted show back up.

 

If this can’t be fixed, I’ll have to leave the list.

 

Cindy


Re: NVDA and a free office

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi,

I actually like open office much better. I tried libre office and found that I had to alt tab to get to the place where you choose what you want like a spread sheet or a text document.

-----Original Message-----
From: nasrin khaksar [mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@...]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 10:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and a free office

hi.
libreoffice is accessible and you dont need to install java-java access briedge to make it accessible.
just download libreoffice and enjoy it without any additional program, no cust, open source, very great project, and support for more than
110 languages.
i am shure that libreoffice is the best selection!
thanks so much for your asking and god bless you.

On 4/25/16, V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@...> wrote:
@Josh, *
Both LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice offer good no-cost open source
assistive technology tool support on Windows having implemented the
IAccessible2 API.
LibreOffice-- http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/
(5.1.2 build released 2016-04-01 in either 32-bit or 64-bit, as
opposed to the
5.0.5 build released 2016-02-08)
Apache OpenOffice -- http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html
(4.1.2 build released 2015-10-30)

The Apache project limps along, but the 4.1.2 build should suffice for
use with NVDA releases, but I would choose a LibreOffice build as its
development model offers more resources for addressing any functional
issues.
Stuart

--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Re: Navigating amongst controls on the main screen in Webinaria

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Jacob,

It offers that setting but I am unable to navigate to it. The hot keys will help but I want to change the microphone that it is going to use.

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: Jacob Kruger [mailto:jacob@...]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 3:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigating amongst controls on the main screen in Webinaria

Been a little while since last really used it, but, think it just recorded system audio output - you could set system audio to listen to microphone, but, remember main thing was extracting audio from video clip using audacity, tweaking it a bit, and reassigning it to video clip using virtual dub, and then reconverting that video clip to something a lot smaller - ongoing issue with virtualDub is trying to get it to use alternative encoders, but anyway.

Just fired up webInAria, and if read dialogue/window, see it offers setting to record microphone, but, not sure that would then include actual system output as well, and, yes, the interface isn't perfect, but, like said, like that it offered global hotkeys to start, pause and stop recording.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-24 6:33 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
What format does it save as? Does it record system audio and microphone?
On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 11:05 PM Jacob Kruger <jacob@...
<mailto:jacob@...>> wrote:

Oh yes, and I liked that fact that it allows global hotkeys to start and
stop recording, whereas after that you need to use screen review mode to
then have video clip generated/saved.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-23 8:14 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
> Is this easier/better than Open Broadcasting SOftware?
> Main issue I've with OBS is that sometimes the window isn't screen
> captured fully or at all, so I get a partial browser window or a
black
> screen with only NVDA TTS.
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 9:16 AM Jacob Kruger <jacob@...
<mailto:jacob@...>
> <mailto:jacob@... <mailto:jacob@...>>> wrote:
>
> Pranav, have used it a little bit, and, for example, to find
the publish
> button near top right, to actually output the video resulting
from
> recording, I used screen review mode with NVDA.
>
> HTH
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> "Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's
closet..."
>
> On 2016-04-23 3:21 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Has anyone tried webinaria for making screen casts? It is an
> open source
> > program. You can get it from
> > http://www.webinaria.com/
> >
> > There are a bunch of controls accessible via the context
menu in
> the system
> > tray which helps but I need to set devices. I can read screen
> elements if I hit
> > nvda key + b but I am unable to locate the controls with
object
> navigation.
> > Note:
> > Simple navigation is disabled.
> >
> > Pranav
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>




Re: NVDA and a free office

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Dean,

I had trouble reading things with libre office so I switched to open office.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Masters [mailto:dwmasters15@...]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 12:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and a free office

Is the libera office spreadsheet readable with NVDA? I tried it with another screen reader and could not read it at all. I could read the Open Office spreadsheet but do have some problems with the word prrocessor and the other screen reader.

Dean


-----Original Message-----
From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 1:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and a free office

hi.
libreoffice is accessible and you dont need to install java-java access briedge to make it accessible.
just download libreoffice and enjoy it without any additional program, no cust, open source, very great project, and support for more than
110 languages.
i am shure that libreoffice is the best selection!
thanks so much for your asking and god bless you.

On 4/25/16, V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@...> wrote:
@Josh, *
Both LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice offer good no-cost open source
assistive technology tool support on Windows having implemented the
IAccessible2 API.
LibreOffice-- http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/
(5.1.2
build released 2016-04-01 in either 32-bit or 64-bit, as opposed to
the
5.0.5 build released 2016-02-08)
Apache OpenOffice -- http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html
(4.1.2 build released 2015-10-30)

The Apache project limps along, but the 4.1.2 build should suffice for
use with NVDA releases, but I would choose a LibreOffice build as its
development model offers more resources for addressing any functional
issues.
Stuart

--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Re: nvda settings with configuration

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi What synth are you using? Are you using espeak?
Kenny Peyatt jr.

On 4/25/2016 2:17 PM, John wrote:

        I was trying to figure out why after i go to general settings under where you can adjust voice settings what not. But when i go under the general settings and make my adjustments. It's not saving my settings when hitting ok. As a matter and fact when i hit ok it doesnt clsoe the window, so soon as i hit escape it closes it and goes back to the previous settings before i made changes. Not sure why hitting enter on the ok button doesnt do anything.



Re: NVDA and a free office

Dean Masters <dwmasters15@...>
 

Is the libera office spreadsheet readable with NVDA? I tried it with another screen reader and could not read it at all. I could read the Open Office spreadsheet but do have some problems with the word prrocessor and the other screen reader.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 1:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and a free office

hi.
libreoffice is accessible and you dont need to install java-java
access briedge to make it accessible.
just download libreoffice and enjoy it without any additional program,
no cust, open source, very great project, and support for more than
110 languages.
i am shure that libreoffice is the best selection!
thanks so much for your asking and god bless you.

On 4/25/16, V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@...> wrote:
@Josh, *
Both LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice offer good no-cost open source
assistive technology tool support on Windows having implemented the
IAccessible2 API.
LibreOffice-- http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ (5.1.2
build released 2016-04-01 in either 32-bit or 64-bit, as opposed to the
5.0.5 build released 2016-02-08)
Apache OpenOffice -- http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html (4.1.2
build released 2015-10-30)

The Apache project limps along, but the 4.1.2 build should suffice for use
with NVDA releases, but I would choose a LibreOffice build as its
development model offers more resources for addressing any functional
issues.
Stuart

--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: blindfold games and NVDA?

Lino Morales
 

Um no Josh. Bite the bullit and buy an iDevice. Take it up with Marty the app dev on his website if you want this. good luck chum.

On 4/25/2016 7:58 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
hi
any chance that the blindfold games for ios will be ported to windows7 8 or windows10 to work with NVDA? I cannot justify to myself spending $200 or so on an ipod or ipad just to play a few games when such games could be ported to my chosen platform already.

thanks

josh


Re: nvda settings with configuration

Andre Fisher
 

Which synthesizer are you using?

On 4/25/16, John <@theblindcommunity> wrote:
I was trying to figure out why after i go to general settings under where
you can adjust voice settings what not. But when i go under the general
settings and make my adjustments. It's not saving my settings when hitting
ok. As a matter and fact when i hit ok it doesnt clsoe the window, so soon
as i hit escape it closes it and goes back to the previous settings before i
made changes. Not sure why hitting enter on the ok button doesnt do
anything.


nvda settings with configuration

 

        I was trying to figure out why after i go to general settings under where you can adjust voice settings what not. But when i go under the general settings and make my adjustments. It's not saving my settings when hitting ok. As a matter and fact when i hit ok it doesnt clsoe the window, so soon as i hit escape it closes it and goes back to the previous settings before i made changes. Not sure why hitting enter on the ok button doesnt do anything.


Re: NVDA and a free office

 

hi.
libreoffice is accessible and you dont need to install java-java
access briedge to make it accessible.
just download libreoffice and enjoy it without any additional program,
no cust, open source, very great project, and support for more than
110 languages.
i am shure that libreoffice is the best selection!
thanks so much for your asking and god bless you.

On 4/25/16, V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@...> wrote:
@Josh, *
Both LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice offer good no-cost open source
assistive technology tool support on Windows having implemented the
IAccessible2 API.
LibreOffice-- http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/  (5.1.2
build released 2016-04-01 in either 32-bit or 64-bit, as opposed to the
5.0.5 build released 2016-02-08)
Apache OpenOffice -- http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html (4.1.2
build released 2015-10-30)

The Apache project limps along, but the 4.1.2 build should suffice for use
with NVDA releases, but I would choose a LibreOffice build as its
development model offers more resources for addressing any functional
issues.
Stuart
--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: NVDA and a free office

V Stuart Foote
 

@Josh, *

Both LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice offer good no-cost open source assistive technology tool support on Windows having implemented the IAccessible2 API.

LibreOffice-- http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/  (5.1.2 build released 2016-04-01 in either 32-bit or 64-bit, as opposed to the 5.0.5 build released 2016-02-08)

Apache OpenOffice -- http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html (4.1.2 build released 2015-10-30)


The Apache project limps along, but the 4.1.2 build should suffice for use with NVDA releases, but I would choose a LibreOffice build as its development model offers more resources for addressing any functional issues.

Stuart


Re: NVDA and a free office

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

What about trying open office.

-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Kennedy [mailto:joshknnd1982@...]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 5:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and a free office

I just reset my son's windows10 laptop last night because he downloaded something he should not have and it messed it up. so i did a full reset telling it to rip everything apps files photos videos documents you name it rip it all out and start over with a fresh windows10. and so it did.
so i decided to make google chrome his default web browser and i installed NVDA onto the fresh windows10 as well. my question is when he gets into school next year I would rather not be bad and pirate microsoft office because 1. its very big and 2. libreoffice is very little and can also handle the microsoft documents. i also figure ok I'm making him go google so might as well go the whole way. so my question is this, 1. is google drive client application accessible with NVDA? if not will i need java and the java access bridge to access libreoffice?
and 3. will libreoffice let NVDA read charts and graphs in spreadsheets like it does in ms-excel and if not could this be added into NVDA so libreoffice with NVDA will behave much like microsoft office? or for accessibility sake should i just buy ms-office for my own win10 machine just for viewing and editing word files and spreadsheets accessibly but for my son just let him use libreoffice and google docs inside his chrome web browser since i found docs is not accessible with NVDA under chrome?





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Re: Admin's Note: Welcome Your New Moderator

Chris Mullins
 

Brilliant LOL
Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: LANGERON Daniel [mailto:@leinad]
Sent: 25 April 2016 13:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Admin's Note: Welcome Your New Moderator

An alias ?
Why not DNA ?
Tell me, what better alias for a gene ... !
Anyway welcome Gene to this primary function!
And a very big thank you to Joseph Lee, the former very effective moderator.
Daniel
From : AVH / Versailles / Yvelines / France

Le 25/04/2016 08:54, Brian's Mail list account a écrit :
Hi, and goodluck.
What you need is an alias, or alter ego kind of name for the
moderation job.
:-)
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Admin's Note: Welcome Your New Moderator


I would like to thank Nimer Jaber for the honor of being selected as a
moderator.
I am not yet acting as a moderator but at the outset, I want to make
what I consider an important point.

When I am writing as a list member and not sending moderation
messages, I want and hope that list members will treat me as they
always have. That is, list members may feel as free as before to
comment or disagree with me when I write as a member. When I write as
a moderator, then the rules apply for dealing with moderation matters
but I see the two as completely separate. I have the impression that
on many lists, moderators may be treated differently even when they
are participating as list members and I want to assure the list that I
don't want that to be the case with me.

I am looking forward to working with Nimer to keep the list running
smoothly and to help the list meet the needs and concerns of NVDA
users. I look forward to serving the list.

Gene


From: Nimer Jaber
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 3:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Admin's Note: Welcome Your New Moderator


Hello everyone,


I would like to welcome all of you to the new moderator who will step
into Joseph's hard-to-fill shoes. Many of you know this individual, as
he posts frequently with thoughtful, well-researched content. He has
done this for a long time now.


Please welcome Gene to the moderation team. He will work with Joseph
closely until the end of May to make sure that he has all of the
information he needs to step into the position. Gene and I will work
closely to continue to make sure that this list runs without problems.
We will, of course, miss Joseph as he embarks on a new journey.


If you have any questions, concerns, problems or suggestions, please
let the moderation team know at nvda+owner@groups.io