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Re: NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

 

Well I have been listening to the recordings as they have come in.
I did say I was going to try to come in.
But in reality its quite hard to do so, life has not been fair, with mum having issues as well as a few other things, including weather and other things in general, stuff is getting reschedualed all over the place including days I would usually have off I don't for the next while in fact for the rest of this year scheduals will be rocky because of some ongoing issues.
If any of the sessions meat an afternoon or evening slot new zealand standard time and its after 1 in the afternoon or more likely 8 at night I will try my darndist to come in.
Mornings are out, as I have gym, and standard computer stuff to handle.
If I am not busy out or well working on something in the afternoon I will try but these can be a bit flakey to.

On 27/04/2016 7:51 a.m., Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,
I'd be willing to do this once more tomorrow at 10 AM Pacific (17:00 UTC)
and no more as I need to prepare for second half of the conference.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Webmaster Deweer [mailto:webmaster_deweer@hotmail.be]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 12:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Here, in Belgium, we have the same problem! 7pm pacific is 2am brussels
time!
Will anyone record the conversation please and post it for all people who
are in bed or are unable to come live, please!
Thanks!

Regards, Jordy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Patrick Le Baudour [mailto:p.lebaudour@gmail.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 26 april 2016 21:25
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [nvda] NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Hi, are we planning to invade irak sending a troop of blind people to fight
IRIS at night?
It's at 3am here, so i guess i'll be sleeping and never know... :-(

-- Patrick.

Le 26/04/2016 à 19:44, Joseph Lee a écrit :
Hi all,
Project Thunderstorm is still going. For those who couldn't make it
to the earlier session, please come to NVDACon TeamTalk server at 7 PM
Pacific on the 26th (02:00 UTC on the 27th). If possible, please
bring a microphone in order to participate in this project (sending a
message; I'll talk about what this project is all about then).
Cheers,
Joseph










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Re: NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Here in Southern California I'm just getting up and having breakfast at 7
AM.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ângelo Abrantes [mailto:ampa4374@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 12:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Here, in Portugal, i?m sleeping.

Ângelo Abrantes


Às 20:35 de 26-04-2016, Webmaster Deweer escreveu:
Here, in Belgium, we have the same problem! 7pm pacific is 2am brussels
time!
Will anyone record the conversation please and post it for all people
who are in bed or are unable to come live, please!
Thanks!

Regards, Jordy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Patrick Le Baudour [mailto:p.lebaudour@gmail.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 26 april 2016 21:25
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [nvda] NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Hi, are we planning to invade irak sending a troop of blind people to
fight IRIS at night?
It's at 3am here, so i guess i'll be sleeping and never know... :-(

-- Patrick.

Le 26/04/2016 à 19:44, Joseph Lee a écrit :
Hi all,
Project Thunderstorm is still going. For those who couldn't make it
to the earlier session, please come to NVDACon TeamTalk server at 7
PM Pacific on the 26th (02:00 UTC on the 27th). If possible, please
bring a microphone in order to participate in this project (sending a
message; I'll talk about what this project is all about then).
Cheers,
Joseph







Re: NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

 

Hi,
Yes (not exactly an NVDACon session, but nevertheless quite important).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona [mailto:hank.smith966@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 12:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

so will there still be a session tonight?

at 7 pasific?
On 4/26/2016 12:51 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,
I'd be willing to do this once more tomorrow at 10 AM Pacific (17:00
UTC) and no more as I need to prepare for second half of the conference.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Webmaster Deweer [mailto:webmaster_deweer@hotmail.be]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 12:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Here, in Belgium, we have the same problem! 7pm pacific is 2am
brussels time!
Will anyone record the conversation please and post it for all people
who are in bed or are unable to come live, please!
Thanks!

Regards, Jordy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Patrick Le Baudour [mailto:p.lebaudour@gmail.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 26 april 2016 21:25
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [nvda] NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Hi, are we planning to invade irak sending a troop of blind people to
fight IRIS at night?
It's at 3am here, so i guess i'll be sleeping and never know... :-(

-- Patrick.

Le 26/04/2016 à 19:44, Joseph Lee a écrit :
Hi all,
Project Thunderstorm is still going. For those who couldn't make it
to the earlier session, please come to NVDACon TeamTalk server at 7
PM Pacific on the 26th (02:00 UTC on the 27th). If possible, please
bring a microphone in order to participate in this project (sending a
message; I'll talk about what this project is all about then).
Cheers,
Joseph










Re: NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

 

so will there still be a session tonight?

at 7 pasific?

On 4/26/2016 12:51 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,
I'd be willing to do this once more tomorrow at 10 AM Pacific (17:00 UTC)
and no more as I need to prepare for second half of the conference.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Webmaster Deweer [mailto:webmaster_deweer@hotmail.be]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 12:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Here, in Belgium, we have the same problem! 7pm pacific is 2am brussels
time!
Will anyone record the conversation please and post it for all people who
are in bed or are unable to come live, please!
Thanks!

Regards, Jordy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Patrick Le Baudour [mailto:p.lebaudour@gmail.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 26 april 2016 21:25
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [nvda] NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Hi, are we planning to invade irak sending a troop of blind people to fight
IRIS at night?
It's at 3am here, so i guess i'll be sleeping and never know... :-(

-- Patrick.

Le 26/04/2016 à 19:44, Joseph Lee a écrit :
Hi all,
Project Thunderstorm is still going. For those who couldn't make it
to the earlier session, please come to NVDACon TeamTalk server at 7 PM
Pacific on the 26th (02:00 UTC on the 27th). If possible, please
bring a microphone in order to participate in this project (sending a
message; I'll talk about what this project is all about then).
Cheers,
Joseph









Re: NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

 

Hi all,
I'd be willing to do this once more tomorrow at 10 AM Pacific (17:00 UTC)
and no more as I need to prepare for second half of the conference.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Webmaster Deweer [mailto:webmaster_deweer@hotmail.be]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 12:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Here, in Belgium, we have the same problem! 7pm pacific is 2am brussels
time!
Will anyone record the conversation please and post it for all people who
are in bed or are unable to come live, please!
Thanks!

Regards, Jordy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Patrick Le Baudour [mailto:p.lebaudour@gmail.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 26 april 2016 21:25
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [nvda] NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Hi, are we planning to invade irak sending a troop of blind people to fight
IRIS at night?
It's at 3am here, so i guess i'll be sleeping and never know... :-(

-- Patrick.

Le 26/04/2016 à 19:44, Joseph Lee a écrit :
Hi all,
Project Thunderstorm is still going. For those who couldn't make it
to the earlier session, please come to NVDACon TeamTalk server at 7 PM
Pacific on the 26th (02:00 UTC on the 27th). If possible, please
bring a microphone in order to participate in this project (sending a
message; I'll talk about what this project is all about then).
Cheers,
Joseph




Re: NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Ângelo Abrantes
 

Here, in Portugal, i?m sleeping.

Ângelo Abrantes


Às 20:35 de 26-04-2016, Webmaster Deweer escreveu:

Here, in Belgium, we have the same problem! 7pm pacific is 2am brussels time!
Will anyone record the conversation please and post it for all people who are in
bed or are unable to come live, please!
Thanks!

Regards, Jordy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Patrick Le Baudour [mailto:p.lebaudour@gmail.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 26 april 2016 21:25
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [nvda] NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Hi, are we planning to invade irak sending a troop of blind people to fight IRIS
at night?
It's at 3am here, so i guess i'll be sleeping and never know... :-(

-- Patrick.

Le 26/04/2016 à 19:44, Joseph Lee a écrit :
Hi all,
Project Thunderstorm is still going. For those who couldn't make it
to the earlier session, please come to NVDACon TeamTalk server at 7 PM
Pacific on the 26th (02:00 UTC on the 27th). If possible, please
bring a microphone in order to participate in this project (sending a
message; I'll talk about what this project is all about then).
Cheers,
Joseph






Re: NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Webmaster Deweer <webmaster_deweer@...>
 

Here, in Belgium, we have the same problem! 7pm pacific is 2am brussels time!
Will anyone record the conversation please and post it for all people who are in
bed or are unable to come live, please!
Thanks!

Regards, Jordy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Patrick Le Baudour [mailto:p.lebaudour@gmail.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 26 april 2016 21:25
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [nvda] NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Hi, are we planning to invade irak sending a troop of blind people to fight IRIS
at night?
It's at 3am here, so i guess i'll be sleeping and never know... :-(

-- Patrick.

Le 26/04/2016 à 19:44, Joseph Lee a écrit :
Hi all,
Project Thunderstorm is still going. For those who couldn't make it
to the earlier session, please come to NVDACon TeamTalk server at 7 PM
Pacific on the 26th (02:00 UTC on the 27th). If possible, please
bring a microphone in order to participate in this project (sending a
message; I'll talk about what this project is all about then).
Cheers,
Joseph




Re: NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Patrick Le Baudour
 

Hi, are we planning to invade irak sending a troop of blind people to fight IRIS at night?
It's at 3am here, so i guess i'll be sleeping and never know... :-(

-- Patrick.

Le 26/04/2016 à 19:44, Joseph Lee a écrit :
Hi all,
Project Thunderstorm is still going. For those who couldn't make it to
the earlier session, please come to NVDACon TeamTalk server at 7 PM
Pacific on the 26th (02:00 UTC on the 27th). If possible, please bring
a microphone in order to participate in this project (sending a message;
I'll talk about what this project is all about then).
Cheers,
Joseph



Re: NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

 

Hi all,
Clarification: no, I didn't made it up - this is a real project.
Cheers,
Joseph

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 10:44:43 -0700
Subject: [nvda] NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

Hi all,
Project Thunderstorm is still going. For those who couldn't make
it to the earlier session, please come to NVDACon TeamTalk server
at 7 PM Pacific on the 26th (02:00 UTC on the 27th). If
possible, please bring a microphone in order to participate in
this project (sending a message; I'll talk about what this
project is all about then).
Cheers,
Joseph


NVDACon: Project Thunderstorm

 

Hi all,
Project Thunderstorm is still going. For those who couldn't make it to the earlier session, please come to NVDACon TeamTalk server at 7 PM Pacific on the 26th (02:00 UTC on the 27th). If possible, please bring a microphone in order to participate in this project (sending a message; I'll talk about what this project is all about then).
Cheers,
Joseph


Re: duplicate messages

Slery <slerythema@...>
 

Yes I am would this also explains why some deleted emails keep coming back

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On April 26, 2016 3:01:09 AM "Christopher Hallsworth"
<challsworth2@icloud.com> wrote:

Here is an idea. Are you also on the old Freelists list due to be deleted soon?
On 26 Apr 2016, at 02:39, slery <slerythema@gmail.com> wrote:

Does anyone know why I am getting duplicate messages on every other
message? It is extremely annoying and I also had several messages that I
deleted show back up.

If this can’t be fixed, I’ll have to leave the list.

Cindy



Re: Fillable PDF Forms & NVDA

 

Well, additional developments that some may find interesting.  I downloaded the tax year 2015 (as in should have been filed on April 18th 2016) version of the 1040EZ and I still get the same result in Adobe Reader DC.

So, I decided to try a form that I'd customized in Microsoft Word for a client about a year and a half ago where every blessed field (or at least the ones I set up in the demo form - I didn't complete the myriad checkboxes that the paper version contains) has alternate text and help text.  If I open this in Word and have NVDA running it does precisely what I think it should do:  Announces the alternate text when I land in the form field and, if I hit F1, displays the help text box and reads its contents.

I have to believe that either the IRS forms are not set up correctly to be accessible or else there's something that doesn't "play well together" between Adobe Reader DC and NVDA.

If I hit NVDA+TAB in anything I've tried so far I do not get the field name announced.

Brian
--

Brian
-- 
The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.
      ~ H.L. Mencken

    



Re: duplicate messages

Slery <slerythema@...>
 

Dexter Not Duplicate threat it is the exact same message twice but it does not happen on every single message but almost every other message that I get a duplicate from the same person with the same message

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com

On April 25, 2016 11:26:59 PM "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:

I would assume that she is receiving multiple messages with one subject line. But, again it really depend on the others users how they responded , instead of using one email thread. to avoid cluttering into inbox. Or, I would say that the said email recipients has this type of norms is being setup.
Robert Mendoza
On 4/26/2016 11:08 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Cindy,

          Can you be more specific with regard to which messages and topics?  I had been seeing quite a few on this group, and started a thread dedicated to some of the reasons they might be occurring, but that has died down quite a bit since it was at it's peak a about 5 or 6 days ago.  I haven't seen any over the last several days.

Brian
-- 
The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.
      ~ H.L. Mencken

    




Re: Problems with Excel Chart

Andre Fisher
 

This is a known issue, and a fix is on its way. In NVDA 2016.2, the
chart sheets will become accessible. If you don't want to wait a month
for the fix, you can download a Master snapshot of NVDA.

On 4/26/16, Shantanu Choudhury <choudhuryshantanu00@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone,

Greetings !
I have just joined this group and this is my first mail.

I am facing difficulties while working with Excel chart and it would
be great help if I get guidance on this.
I am using NVDA 16.1 and MS Office 2007, on Windows 7.
1. I have created chart by pressing F11 key and it creates a chart for
the selected data on a new worksheet. By pressing arrow keys I am able
to access the axis, legend, chart area, plot area of the chart.
2. Now I want to check the data points of the chart (like in a bar
chart, what is the specific value of bar). When I press Insert + F7 to
access the elements list, it does not open the element list and
instead spell check for the chart got completed. Then I switched to
the Data sheet and pressed insert + F7 there. It opened elements list
but when I select charts on the elements list, it is showing nothing.
How to access chart from elements list ?
3. I closed and re opend the excel and switched to the sheet where the
chart got created. Now NVDA is not reading anything about the chart,
pressing arrow keys or any other keys is not working. How can I access
this sheet now? Other data sheets are read by NVDA, only chart sheets
are not accessible.

Any comments / suggestions would be appreciated.

Regards,
Shantanu Choudhury.




Re: NVDA and a free office

 

hi stuart.
thanks so much for your guide and the links that you sent us.
i realy needed shortcut for accessibility and i appreciate you for this.
thanks again and devine mercy and blessings i wish for you.

On 4/26/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I don't consider such minor inconveniences to be meaningful. If you have to
issue an extra keystroke and that's all, that is a minor work around and
doesn't indicate how the program performs overall when compared with
another. I don't know how the programs compare for blind people but I read
somewhere that Libre Office is updated in a more timely manner and is more
current. As a blind computer user who uses more than just a small number of
programs known to be fully accessible, such work arounds are likely to be
needed in this or that program.

What, if any other differences, do you like about Open Office?

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 7:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and a free office


Hi,

I actually like open office much better. I tried libre office and found that
I had to alt tab to get to the place where you choose what you want like a
spread sheet or a text document.



-----Original Message-----
From: nasrin khaksar [mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 10:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and a free office

hi.
libreoffice is accessible and you dont need to install java-java access
briedge to make it accessible.
just download libreoffice and enjoy it without any additional program, no
cust, open source, very great project, and support for more than
110 languages.
i am shure that libreoffice is the best selection!
thanks so much for your asking and god bless you.

On 4/25/16, V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@utsa.edu> wrote:
@Josh, *
Both LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice offer good no-cost open source
assistive technology tool support on Windows having implemented the
IAccessible2 API.
LibreOffice-- http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/
(5.1.2 build released 2016-04-01 in either 32-bit or 64-bit, as
opposed to the
5.0.5 build released 2016-02-08)
Apache OpenOffice -- http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html
(4.1.2 build released 2015-10-30)

The Apache project limps along, but the 4.1.2 build should suffice for
use with NVDA releases, but I would choose a LibreOffice build as its
development model offers more resources for addressing any functional
issues.
Stuart

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Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find written
down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them good and
forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things and makes
unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their burden and the
shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who believe in him and
honor him and help him, and follow the light which has been sent down with
him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org







--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


How to purchase individual voices from Nuance?

Mr. Wong Chi Wai <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Hi,

I know we can choose to purchase the vocalizer for NVDA, but those voices cannot be called by other software. If I want to purchase a single voices that can be called by different software...is there a way that I can purchse from Nuance???

Thanks.


Dodgy next snapshot

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

If you got an error this morning if you are using the next snapshot branch, try updating to the new version just uploaded. It seems OK here.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.


Re: duplicate messages

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Rather needs more info on method of reading email and the programs used.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <challsworth2@icloud.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] duplicate messages


Here is an idea. Are you also on the old Freelists list due to be deleted soon?
On 26 Apr 2016, at 02:39, slery <slerythema@gmail.com> wrote:

Does anyone know why I am getting duplicate messages on every other message? It is extremely annoying and I also had several messages that I deleted show back up.

If this can’t be fixed, I’ll have to leave the list.

Cindy


Problems with Excel Chart

Shantanu Choudhury <choudhuryshantanu00@...>
 

Hello Everyone,

Greetings !
I have just joined this group and this is my first mail.

I am facing difficulties while working with Excel chart and it would
be great help if I get guidance on this.
I am using NVDA 16.1 and MS Office 2007, on Windows 7.
1. I have created chart by pressing F11 key and it creates a chart for
the selected data on a new worksheet. By pressing arrow keys I am able
to access the axis, legend, chart area, plot area of the chart.
2. Now I want to check the data points of the chart (like in a bar
chart, what is the specific value of bar). When I press Insert + F7 to
access the elements list, it does not open the element list and
instead spell check for the chart got completed. Then I switched to
the Data sheet and pressed insert + F7 there. It opened elements list
but when I select charts on the elements list, it is showing nothing.
How to access chart from elements list ?
3. I closed and re opend the excel and switched to the sheet where the
chart got created. Now NVDA is not reading anything about the chart,
pressing arrow keys or any other keys is not working. How can I access
this sheet now? Other data sheets are read by NVDA, only chart sheets
are not accessible.

Any comments / suggestions would be appreciated.

Regards,
Shantanu Choudhury.


Re: duplicate messages

christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

Here is an idea. Are you also on the old Freelists list due to be deleted soon?

On 26 Apr 2016, at 02:39, slery <slerythema@gmail.com> wrote:

Does anyone know why I am getting duplicate messages on every other message? It is extremely annoying and I also had several messages that I deleted show back up.

If this can’t be fixed, I’ll have to leave the list.

Cindy