Re: Automatic switch braile output table in NVDA
Adriani Botez
Hello, yes there is indicators in there. Look for example this URL in
romanian: http://ro-nvda.tk/userGuide.html It is the user guide for NVDA. Some examples: In Romanian, there is a letter which is pronounced tz. In braille this is dot 2, 4 and 6. But on the braille display there appears something with 'x012b' or so. eSpeak say "Character 1 2 b" when trying to read the letter. The whole word however is correctly pronounced. But not the single character. In Turkish, there is a letter which pronounced sounds like a mix of I and a. In braille is written by dot 3 and dot 5. For example the word nasılsın. It means how are you, but on the braille display there appears a code instead of dots 3 and 5 for that letter. Automatically switch language and dialects is enabled. When I manually choose output table Turkish, the sign is being correctly recognized. But eSpeak and other synthesizers still pronounce it wrong. What we would need here is an automatic combination of output tables in braille when corresponding letters need to be displayed. As far as I can see, Romanian braille is not implemented. Is it an option for NVDA to implement BRLTTY drivers in the core? That driver supports much more languages than libluis. Both drivers would cover much more signs. Best Adriani -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Antony Stone Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Dezember 2017 01:02 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: Re: [nvda] Automatic switch braile output table in NVDA Is there any indication (for example in the HTML source code) that the change is occurring? Can you give an example URL of a website containing multiple languages so we can see whether there's anything NVDA could pick up on to indicate "oh, it's German now" or whatever? Antony. On Friday 08 December 2017 at 00:52:19, Adriani Botez wrote: This happens in several text editors and the browser, especially on --Am 08.12.2017 um 00:16 schrieb Antony Stone: The truth is rarely pure, and never simple. - Oscar Wilde Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: safe mode
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi Hareth
if you do not mind I might add a little to it but the content will pretty much be the same.
The extra 2 parts will be a little about safe mode and why you would go into it.
the second part will be to confirm you are in safe mode and what type of message you will get.
There will also be a drop box link for the file to get it that i have here and used.
I only tested it with a windows 10 machine do you know if it would say work for a windows 8 or 7 machine? I do not have any here to test with as i could note that on the page. Just in case people ask questions or want to know if it works with there sound cards as well. I am guessing it will.
Do you want your name mentioned? on the tutorial or left off?
I will be uploading some material tonight and this tutorial will be part of it. I will then let the community know.
Gene nz
On 12/11/2017 12:02 AM, Hareth wrote:
Hi Gene, Sure I did say yes, feel free to post that or any of my posts in the future. I do appreciate your time and effort to help the community. And for David, Thanks a lot for the kind words, greatly appreciate it. All the best --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers.
To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert exam.
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Re: Strange isue when browsing webpages
Yes i do
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But the thing is, the web page is totally english, But i'll turn it off just to be sure,
On 11 Dec 2017, at 02.15, Chris <chrismedley@...> wrote:
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Re: Strange isue when browsing webpages
Chris
Do you have automatic language switching checked in voice settings of NVDA?
From: Dr. arvind singh brar
Sent: 10 December 2017 19:10 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Strange isue when browsing webpages
Hello guys,
I seem to be facing a strange issue when browsing web pages,
I am using the latest version of nvda and vocalizer tts voices, When i am browsing a page, The body of the page is read in a female voice and only the links are read in the male vocalizer voice, it's kind of annoying.
Anybody know how to fix this,
I would like pages to be read in only one vocalizer voice, Thanks Alvin
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Re: nvda unresponsiveness
Chris
So if you reduced the number of open programs, what happens then?
From: Marisane Moruthanyana
Sent: 10 December 2017 16:23 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda unresponsiveness
Hi Roi
The ram is 4 gb
The synth is MS speech mobile and sometimes codefactory eloquent.
Unresponsive means that it would not respond to commands as quiclly as one would expect the screen reader to do. especially when multiple applications are running.
I do not know of the had drive type. How do I get that information?
Please help.
Marisane
On 12/10/17, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote: > 1 - Besides the processor, other important components are RAM memory and > type of disk, HDD or SSD. > > > Other questions: > > Wich synth are you using? > > What you mean by "unresponsiveness"? > > > Rui > > > > > Às 09:11 de 10/12/2017, Marisane Moruthanyana escreveu: >> Morning nvda users >> >> I am Marisane from SA. >> >> I have, for sometime now, been looking for your assistance regarding >> nvda unresponsiveness but to no avail. >> >> I have recently upgraded to nvda 2017.4, but the unresponsiveness >> still persists. >> >> May I know whether this may be due to my laptop's using intel seleron >> processor at a speed of less than 2ghz? >> >> Does the processor type and its speed have any impact on nvda's >> functionality / dysfunctionality? >> >> What processor and speed should one take into account when buying a >> laptop so that nvda may respond positively? >> >> I am frustrated, because this happens only with nvda and not with jaws. >> >> I use jaws demo as I have no licence for it to do some work on my PC, >> but it responds very well that I do not have the same problems as >> those with nvda. >> >> If the processor type and its speed are the cause of nvda' >> unresponsiveness, why only it and not other screen reader like jaws? >> >> Your urgent assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance. >> >> Please, please, please help, I am getting frustrated everyday. >> >> I solely rely on nvda as my jaws is only 40 minutes. >> >> Hope you understand. >> >> Regards >> Marisane >> >> >> >> . >> > >
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Strange isue when browsing webpages
Hello guys,
I seem to be facing a strange issue when browsing web pages, I am using the latest version of nvda and vocalizer tts voices, When i am browsing a page, The body of the page is read in a female voice and only the links are read in the male vocalizer voice, it's kind of annoying. Anybody know how to fix this, I would like pages to be read in only one vocalizer voice, Thanks
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Re: NVDA Out of Focus on Some Clickables
I get this in thunderbird, open a message, hit enter it executes something and I am on the desktop.
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I alt tab, if I then reply or something it won't do this but still.
On 11/12/2017 4:46 a.m., Rob Hudson wrote:
NVDA 2017.xx, windows 10, Firefox Version XXX
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Re: malware bites question
Antony Stone
What problem did it report?
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Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do about it. Antony.
On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi All, --
Tinned food was developed for the British Navy in 1813. The tin opener was not invented until 1858. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: audio themes addon and sound cards.
This sounds slightly similar to a problem I was having at the start of 2017. My Microsoft Surface Pro 4 tablet would work fine, outputing speech through headphones using my default NVDA configuration (SAPI5 using Zira voice), and then I'd unplug the headphones and switch to an external speaker and it worked fine until I changed the NVDA voice from Zira to Hazel. Instead of outputing through the external speaker it'd go back to outputing through the internal tablet speaker.
I battled with this for ages, asking on a Surface Pro 4 forum, but with no result. Then I discovered there is an NVDA setting in preferences / synthesizer where it has output device. It wasn't the act of changing headphone to external speaker that was cutting the headphone / external speaker connection, it was the act of switching the NVDA voice. For clarification I use the normal configuration profile for my default fast speech rate with Zira, and a dedicated configuration profile for when I want to use the Hazel voice at a slower speed and a few other relevant NVDAsettings. When I looked at the synthesizer output device setting in that configuration profile, it was set to the Realtek HD internal speaker, so I changed it to 'headphones' and I've had no problem with it since. This was vital to me to sort out because I participate in writing groups where I want the fast speed Zira setting when I'm writing, but want to slow it down and switch to Hazel and external speakers when I want the rest of the class to hear what I've written. Sorry for the lengthy answer ... in a nutshell, look in Prefences / Synthesizer for the output device. Hope that works for you :) Giles
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malware bites question
Gary Metzler
Hi All,
I ran the
free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I delete
it? I am using the latest windows and nvda. Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@...
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Re: NVDA Out of Focus on Some Clickables
Gene
On links, try turning forms mode on, nvda key space
bar, then try following the link.
I'm not sure what you might try for clickable items
that aren't links.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 9:46 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Out of Focus on Some
Clickables Sometimes, if an item is clickable, or one of those in page links, and you press space or enter on that item, NVDA will jump to the system tray, or pull up something that says "Neww notification window" If you press window title hotkey, it says "shellexperiencehost" It's like it's doing a mouse click instead of activating the item, or jumping completely off screen somewhere. This behavior is random and not easy to catch, but I notice that it occurs, for example, sometimes, if you follow those links on Amazon where it says "People who bought this item also bought" There are back and next links. Those little listings are on the same page as the main item you are looking at, and it just scrolls a list of related items or something; I haven't taken a look at the code to see what is really happening, there. Another example is if an item is clickable and not an actual link. For example, my bank's website has a "Login" clickable item, and not an actual link. If i pres enter or space on that, it will sometimes jump me to that "shellexperiencehost" item, or the system tray. Has anyone else observed this?
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Re: nvda unresponsiveness
Rui Fontes
Hello!
My name is Rui, not Roi...
Regarding the type of device, if you can hear the disk is an old HDD. If you can't hear nothing at all, is an SDD.
Do you have, or can install, the Remote addon, to allow the remote access to your machine?
Regards,
Rui
Às 16:23 de 10/12/2017, Marisane
Moruthanyana escreveu:
Hi Roi The ram is 4 gb The synth is MS speech mobile and sometimes codefactory eloquent. Unresponsive means that it would not respond to commands as quiclly as one would expect the screen reader to do. especially when multiple applications are running. I do not know of the had drive type. How do I get that information? Please help. Marisane On 12/10/17, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:1 - Besides the processor, other important components are RAM memory and type of disk, HDD or SSD. Other questions: Wich synth are you using? What you mean by "unresponsiveness"? Rui Às 09:11 de 10/12/2017, Marisane Moruthanyana escreveu:Morning nvda users I am Marisane from SA. I have, for sometime now, been looking for your assistance regarding nvda unresponsiveness but to no avail. I have recently upgraded to nvda 2017.4, but the unresponsiveness still persists. May I know whether this may be due to my laptop's using intel seleron processor at a speed of less than 2ghz? Does the processor type and its speed have any impact on nvda's functionality / dysfunctionality? What processor and speed should one take into account when buying a laptop so that nvda may respond positively? I am frustrated, because this happens only with nvda and not with jaws. I use jaws demo as I have no licence for it to do some work on my PC, but it responds very well that I do not have the same problems as those with nvda. If the processor type and its speed are the cause of nvda' unresponsiveness, why only it and not other screen reader like jaws? Your urgent assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance. Please, please, please help, I am getting frustrated everyday. I solely rely on nvda as my jaws is only 40 minutes. Hope you understand. Regards Marisane .
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Re: safe mode
Brice Mijares
Okay! thanks for the info.
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On 12/10/2017 8:05 AM, Hareth wrote:
So far it worked with all cards that people including me have tested.
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Re: Automatic switch braile output table in NVDA
Rui Fontes
NVDA can make automatic Braille tables as it does with language of synth.
By using the indications of HTML, Word and so on, to change the language, or based in Unicode range of characters...
Rui
Às 00:02 de 08/12/2017, Antony Stone
escreveu:
Is there any indication (for example in the HTML source code) that the change is occurring? Can you give an example URL of a website containing multiple languages so we can see whether there's anything NVDA could pick up on to indicate "oh, it's German now" or whatever? Antony. On Friday 08 December 2017 at 00:52:19, Adriani Botez wrote:This happens in several text editors and the browser, especially on websites where you can learn new languages, gramar and ortography. Best AdrianiAm 08.12.2017 um 00:16 schrieb Antony Stone: What application/s are you talking about where this text is displayed? What information is available to NVDA to tell it what language is being used at any given point? I don't see how this could be done automatically, so unless whatever application (browser? word processor? text editor? other?) you are using has some way of indicating "language switches to X here" I don't think NVDA can be expected to reinterpret all on its own. Antony.On Friday 08 December 2017 at 00:10:42, adriani.botez wrote: Dear all, If I have a text where german and russian words are combined, when i choose german output table the russian letters are shown as a combination of signs I cannot understand. On the other hand, if I switch the tables, the german letters are not being displayed correctly. Is there a possibility to tell NVDA to automaically recognize the language and to choose the right table accordingly? Let's say I would restrict it to grade 1 or so. Best Adriani
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Re: nvda unresponsiveness
Marisane Moruthanyana
Hi Roi
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The ram is 4 gb The synth is MS speech mobile and sometimes codefactory eloquent. Unresponsive means that it would not respond to commands as quiclly as one would expect the screen reader to do. especially when multiple applications are running. I do not know of the had drive type. How do I get that information? Please help. Marisane
On 12/10/17, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> wrote:
1 - Besides the processor, other important components are RAM memory and
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Re: screen review commands not working for me
Rui Fontes
Sorry by late answer!
PC cursor = Focus mode Virtual cursor = browse mode Jaws, or better, invisible cursor = Screen review Screen review is more like invisible cursor since it does not move the mouse pointer.The new Jaws cursor is like object review. Rui Às 14:12 de 09/12/2017, Kenny escreveu:
So Gene, thinking of this in JAWS termonology.
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Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?
Adriani Botez
I would rather record a podcast where the episods are not longer than 3 to 5 minutes. An episod per week would have a good impact.
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Best Adriani
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Re: safe mode
Hareth
So far it worked with all cards that people including me have tested.
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And no one as far I know has reported it not working with His or Her PC. TC
On 12/10/17, Brice Mijares <bricemijares@att.net> wrote:
Does this work with all sound cards? Thanks.
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Re: booleted items not being spoken in nvdasymbols like bullets and
Adriani Botez
Enable lists in document formating settings.
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Best Adriani
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Re: Urgently need help (NVDA & Vocalizer addon.
Rui Fontes
Sorry! but your log was on SPAM and with your name and not the name in this list...
Please, check again the box to save your credentials and try to activate again...
Rui Fontes
Às 07:50 de 10/12/2017,
prem.translator@... escreveu:
I still unable to use vocalizer for NVDA on my computer, but everything at my workplace is fine, there is no problem with my vocalizer license.
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