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Re: nvda unresponsiveness
Marisane Moruthanyana
Hi Kevin
I often use internet explorer as my browser. Yes, I sometimes use firefox, but the problem is the same. Although I am not 100% sure, I would like to conclude that the problem is caused by the type of processor and the speed on my machine. Why, because on my other laptop which use intel (R(core(tm)I4 with 4GB memory, nvda respons very well without this problem. My new HP laptop which gives me this problem use intel (r) seleron processor at the speed of 1.6 GHZ. Hope you understand. Marisane On 12/10/17, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote: I only see this using firefox sometimes when arrowing down a page it
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Re: malware bites question
Ron Canazzi
Hi Barry,
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I don't know what anti virus program you are using, but with many--particularly McAfee and Symantec products, they give a lot of false positives. I remember when people running NVDA had all sorts of problems with Symantec which kept eating up NVDA whenever it updated.
On 12/10/2017 8:45 PM, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi Ron, --
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: malware bites question
Gary Metzler
Hi Ron,
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A few months ago someone gave a link to bible seeker. I tried to install it but, it didn't install. I guess it was a virus.
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From: Ron Canazzi Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 8:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question Hi Barry. I have run Bible Seeker and its various components for years with no problems. This must be a false positive. On 12/10/2017 8:05 PM, Gary Metzler wrote: Hi Anthony,-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: malware bites question
Ron Canazzi
Hi Barry.
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I have run Bible Seeker and its various components for years with no problems. This must be a false positive.
On 12/10/2017 8:05 PM, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi Anthony, --
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: malware bites question
Ian Blackburn
Replace the Bible seeker
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With theophilis Sent from my iPhone
On 11 Dec 2017, at 9:05 am, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi Anthony, The threat is from bible seeker. I hope this helps. -----Original Message----- From: Antony Stone Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question What problem did it report? Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do about it. Antony. On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:-- Tinned food was developed for the British Navy in 1813. The tin opener was not invented until 1858. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: malware bites question
Gary Metzler
Hi Anthony,
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The threat is from bible seeker. I hope this helps.
-----Original Message-----
From: Antony Stone Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question What problem did it report? Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do about it. Antony. On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote: Hi All,-- Tinned food was developed for the British Navy in 1813. The tin opener was not invented until 1858. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: I can't seem to create an account on the NVDA Vocalizer site what might I be doing wrong?
Roger Stewart
There are a rapidly increasing websites that don't work well with Firefox. Any Twitter client won't get registered at all if you use Firefox--it must be done with IE and not sure about Edge. Maybe this is one of them. Try going to the page with another browser and see if it will work. There's another site I use a lot, and when it's time to renew my subscription, it will refuse to work at all with Firefox but works every time with IE. Seems to be related to the interaction you must do with the site such as creating an account or paying for something. You can look at any website and find everything, but you just can't do much interactions with Firefox.
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On 12/10/2017 4:36 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
I can't seem to create an account (for those who have bought the NVDA Vocalizer voices it's a requirement before proceeding); I entered everything my first and last name, country Mexico, password, EMail, but it keeps on saying that there was an error on the site, and to verify the info? but which info? I'm using Firefox. So if anyone has any ideas? Thanks.
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I can't seem to create an account on the NVDA Vocalizer site what might I be doing wrong?
Gerardo Corripio
I can't seem to create an account (for those who have bought the NVDA Vocalizer voices it's a requirement before proceeding); I entered everything my first and last name, country Mexico, password, EMail, but it keeps on saying that there was an error on the site, and to verify the info? but which info? I'm using Firefox. So if anyone has any ideas? Thanks.
-- Gera Enviado desde Thunderbird
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Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?
Rosemarie Chavarria
I'd not want the speed to be way too slow but at a good enough rate where
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 1:28 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set? Yes, agreed to slow would turn off most of the users I think. On 10/12/2017 00:37, Gene wrote: I don't think it’s a good idea to have the voice be painfully slow, asusers.. Gene
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Re: safe mode
Hareth
I my self tested it with multiple win7 PC's plus the win10 testing,
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and quite few others that I know. Just win8X is missing the confirmed test. I believe for the best to put a notice telling people to give it a try when they have a sighted company around to make sure 100% it works for their PC , before they really need to preform a task on it when problems happens with it. My last name is "Al-hamdany" but you can leave it with the 1st only. and it is a co thing after all. I just mixed the reg code with the way to restart I was using sense I was sighted PC user cause its faster to reboot than power of the computer and wait for it to save stuff and sometimes it jams with something. Plus the standard boot to the startup menu list is nut accessible Anyway it served me big time with fixes I, I would never been able to do without it. Thanks again
On 12/11/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Hareth
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Re: nvda unresponsiveness
Kevin Cussick
I only see this using firefox sometimes when arrowing down a page it stops talking and you just have to wait I have the latest Sr of ff sorry not sure what the latest Sr is but I got an update yesterday for the Esr sorry I have said Sr it should have been Esr sorry.
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On 10/12/2017 12:17, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Might you have too many AddOns installed? Try running NVDA without the AddOns: For this, NVDA+qq, and a dialogue should come up asking you what you want to do; among these options is Start NVDA without AddOns. See if this helps, to see if maybe it's an AddOn taht's causing this slowness?
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Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?
Kevin Cussick
Yes, agreed to slow would turn off most of the users I think.
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On 10/12/2017 00:37, Gene wrote:
I don't think it’s a good idea to have the voice be painfully slow, as accomodating new users might be for more experienced users. I would suggest doing what I do in tutorials. I have the speech speak at a good rate for experienced users, but I repeat things that are said so the inexperienced listener will know what has been said. I haven't done a tutorial in quite some time and I don't recall if I say everything or just about everything the speech says, but I repeat everything as I move through a dialog, a ribbon, a menu, etc. I repeat everything that matters so users can tell what they need to know. My system accomodates both new and experienced synthesized speech users..
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Re: safe mode
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi Hareth I will add your name to it near the heading of the tutorial. I only have your first name so just add that or add a last name if you give it to me or i might just leave it off. not sure but might put and co? as i do not really want to put my name as in the extra bits. it will go up in the next 12 hours and I will be leaving a copy in the drop box account to link to for the file. If i know it will also work on 7,8 etc i will mention that when i get some more feed back.
Gene nz
On 12/11/2017 9:52 AM, Hareth wrote:
Of course, you can add what ever makes it better to use. I've tested it with win10 the last 3 editions, and windows7 as well. I'd assume it should work just fine for win8 or 8.1. Sure it would be better if anyone gives it a spin with those 2 untested win editions. the initial dropbox link I've posted still working I didn't remove the file, but for the best if the file stored on a permanent storage with a linked URL. It would be an honor to have my name posted on your website, at the same time It won't bother me at all if you didn't, so do as you like. Again all your work is greatly appreciated. Best On 12/10/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:Hi Hareth if you do not mind I might add a little to it but the content will pretty much be the same. The extra 2 parts will be a little about safe mode and why you would go into it. the second part will be to confirm you are in safe mode and what type of message you will get. There will also be a drop box link for the file to get it that i have here and used. I only tested it with a windows 10 machine do you know if it would say work for a windows 8 or 7 machine? I do not have any here to test with as i could note that on the page. Just in case people ask questions or want to know if it works with there sound cards as well. I am guessing it will. Do you want your name mentioned? on the tutorial or left off? I will be uploading some material tonight and this tutorial will be part of it. I will then let the community know. Gene nz On 12/11/2017 12:02 AM, Hareth wrote: Hi Gene, Sure I did say yes, feel free to post that or any of my posts in the future. I do appreciate your time and effort to help the community. And for David, Thanks a lot for the kind words, greatly appreciate it. All the best -- [Image NVDA certified expert] Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam. --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers.
To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert exam.
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Re: safe mode
Hareth
Of course, you can add what ever makes it better to use.
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I've tested it with win10 the last 3 editions, and windows7 as well. I'd assume it should work just fine for win8 or 8.1. Sure it would be better if anyone gives it a spin with those 2 untested win editions. the initial dropbox link I've posted still working I didn't remove the file, but for the best if the file stored on a permanent storage with a linked URL. It would be an honor to have my name posted on your website, at the same time It won't bother me at all if you didn't, so do as you like. Again all your work is greatly appreciated. Best
On 12/10/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Hareth
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Re: Browsing hierarchical tree of comments
Adriani Botez
Hello Tony,
unfortunately I could not find a work around for your problem. The comments are not separated by colors, but by aligments I guess. So, it certainly depends on the screen resolution and screen size as well. In my view, it is not possible to solve this problem by NVDA. And from an accessible perspective, you would need a multi line braille display or something like this to easily find the comment you want to read.
Apart from that, I doubt that it would improve your user experience if redit collapses all levels automatically. You would have to expand them again and again to find relevant comments.
Best Adriani
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Tony Malykh
Here are some examples: 200+ comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14477851
90+ comments: https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/7gtm54/the_best_books_of_2017_megalist/
8000+ comments: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/34m5n6/reddit_what_are_some_must_read_books/
Although these days reddit is smart enough to collapse deep branches of replies, it still often shows second-level comments.
Tony
On 12/7/2017 1:33 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:
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Re: Automatic switch braile output table in NVDA
Adriani Botez
Hello, yes there is indicators in there. Look for example this URL in
romanian: http://ro-nvda.tk/userGuide.html It is the user guide for NVDA. Some examples: In Romanian, there is a letter which is pronounced tz. In braille this is dot 2, 4 and 6. But on the braille display there appears something with 'x012b' or so. eSpeak say "Character 1 2 b" when trying to read the letter. The whole word however is correctly pronounced. But not the single character. In Turkish, there is a letter which pronounced sounds like a mix of I and a. In braille is written by dot 3 and dot 5. For example the word nasılsın. It means how are you, but on the braille display there appears a code instead of dots 3 and 5 for that letter. Automatically switch language and dialects is enabled. When I manually choose output table Turkish, the sign is being correctly recognized. But eSpeak and other synthesizers still pronounce it wrong. What we would need here is an automatic combination of output tables in braille when corresponding letters need to be displayed. As far as I can see, Romanian braille is not implemented. Is it an option for NVDA to implement BRLTTY drivers in the core? That driver supports much more languages than libluis. Both drivers would cover much more signs. Best Adriani -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Antony Stone Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Dezember 2017 01:02 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: Re: [nvda] Automatic switch braile output table in NVDA Is there any indication (for example in the HTML source code) that the change is occurring? Can you give an example URL of a website containing multiple languages so we can see whether there's anything NVDA could pick up on to indicate "oh, it's German now" or whatever? Antony. On Friday 08 December 2017 at 00:52:19, Adriani Botez wrote: This happens in several text editors and the browser, especially on --Am 08.12.2017 um 00:16 schrieb Antony Stone: The truth is rarely pure, and never simple. - Oscar Wilde Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: safe mode
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi Hareth
if you do not mind I might add a little to it but the content will pretty much be the same.
The extra 2 parts will be a little about safe mode and why you would go into it.
the second part will be to confirm you are in safe mode and what type of message you will get.
There will also be a drop box link for the file to get it that i have here and used.
I only tested it with a windows 10 machine do you know if it would say work for a windows 8 or 7 machine? I do not have any here to test with as i could note that on the page. Just in case people ask questions or want to know if it works with there sound cards as well. I am guessing it will.
Do you want your name mentioned? on the tutorial or left off?
I will be uploading some material tonight and this tutorial will be part of it. I will then let the community know.
Gene nz
On 12/11/2017 12:02 AM, Hareth wrote:
Hi Gene, Sure I did say yes, feel free to post that or any of my posts in the future. I do appreciate your time and effort to help the community. And for David, Thanks a lot for the kind words, greatly appreciate it. All the best --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers.
To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert exam.
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Re: Strange isue when browsing webpages
Yes i do
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But the thing is, the web page is totally english, But i'll turn it off just to be sure,
On 11 Dec 2017, at 02.15, Chris <chrismedley@...> wrote:
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Re: Strange isue when browsing webpages
Chris
Do you have automatic language switching checked in voice settings of NVDA?
From: Dr. arvind singh brar
Sent: 10 December 2017 19:10 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Strange isue when browsing webpages
Hello guys,
I seem to be facing a strange issue when browsing web pages,
I am using the latest version of nvda and vocalizer tts voices, When i am browsing a page, The body of the page is read in a female voice and only the links are read in the male vocalizer voice, it's kind of annoying.
Anybody know how to fix this,
I would like pages to be read in only one vocalizer voice, Thanks Alvin
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Re: nvda unresponsiveness
Chris
So if you reduced the number of open programs, what happens then?
From: Marisane Moruthanyana
Sent: 10 December 2017 16:23 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda unresponsiveness
Hi Roi
The ram is 4 gb
The synth is MS speech mobile and sometimes codefactory eloquent.
Unresponsive means that it would not respond to commands as quiclly as one would expect the screen reader to do. especially when multiple applications are running.
I do not know of the had drive type. How do I get that information?
Please help.
Marisane
On 12/10/17, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote: > 1 - Besides the processor, other important components are RAM memory and > type of disk, HDD or SSD. > > > Other questions: > > Wich synth are you using? > > What you mean by "unresponsiveness"? > > > Rui > > > > > Às 09:11 de 10/12/2017, Marisane Moruthanyana escreveu: >> Morning nvda users >> >> I am Marisane from SA. >> >> I have, for sometime now, been looking for your assistance regarding >> nvda unresponsiveness but to no avail. >> >> I have recently upgraded to nvda 2017.4, but the unresponsiveness >> still persists. >> >> May I know whether this may be due to my laptop's using intel seleron >> processor at a speed of less than 2ghz? >> >> Does the processor type and its speed have any impact on nvda's >> functionality / dysfunctionality? >> >> What processor and speed should one take into account when buying a >> laptop so that nvda may respond positively? >> >> I am frustrated, because this happens only with nvda and not with jaws. >> >> I use jaws demo as I have no licence for it to do some work on my PC, >> but it responds very well that I do not have the same problems as >> those with nvda. >> >> If the processor type and its speed are the cause of nvda' >> unresponsiveness, why only it and not other screen reader like jaws? >> >> Your urgent assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance. >> >> Please, please, please help, I am getting frustrated everyday. >> >> I solely rely on nvda as my jaws is only 40 minutes. >> >> Hope you understand. >> >> Regards >> Marisane >> >> >> >> . >> > >
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