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Re: malware bites question

Angela Delicata
 

Hi,

Please excuse me if the question is not  close  related to nvda, but as you are talking about antivirus program, I thought I would try to ask,

I installed avg antivirus, but as  it is  not so accessible, I would like to remove it completely. it is impossible to do so because it seems it has some problems removing itself.

does any one know how to do? If you can, please help me.

Even after installing Windows 10 avg is still here!
I really have no idea on how to handle it.
Thank you in advance.
Ciao.
Angela from Italy

Il 11/12/2017 02:05, Gary Metzler ha scritto:
Hi Anthony,

The threat is from bible seeker.  I hope this helps.

-----Original Message----- From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

What problem did it report?

Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do
about it.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it?  I am using the latest windows and nvda.  Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net


Re: safe mode

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Below will be roughly what goes up to the web page. at present i can not upload and saying the server is temporally available error 502

So until it is fixed or sorted i can not post to the website.

I will let others know when the other stuf goes up if not already there.

It just means no body can access the site.

Do you reckon it sounds alright?

 


How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with the NVDA screen reader

by Hareth  and co

What is safe mode?

Safe mode is a troubleshooting option for Windows that starts your computer in a limited state. Only the basic files and drivers necessary to run Windows are started. Safe mode is useful for troubleshooting problems with programs and drivers that might not start correctly or that might prevent Windows from starting correctly.

 

To use NVDA in safe mode

 

You will need to install a registry patch first. This file can be found at https://www.dropbox.com/s/jr72u3sk7p0za2r/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=0

 

 

After it has been installed it will allow you to use NVDA in safe mode. This has been tested on a Windows 7 and Windows 10 machine and with quite a few different sound cards.

 

Directions to go into and out of safe mode in Windows

 

You can reboot in to safe mode by doing the following:

Press Windows plus R and type msconfig and hit Enter

Press Ctrl plus Tab to get to the "boot tab"

Tab to "safe boot" and check the check mark/check box.

Tab to "base video" and check it as well.

Tab to the OK button and press it. You should get a prompt to restart the

computer to apply the changes.

If you select "restart now" your PC should restart into safe mode.

 

Please note: When the registry patch has been installed, when you go into safe mode,  you will have sound and be able to use the NVDA screen reader.

Message you will get while in safe mode

To confirm you are in safe mode, you can use the NVDA key + letter B. Below is the type of message you will get as an example on a Windows 10 machine.

Safe Mode Microsoft (R) Windows (R) (Build 16299.rs3_release.170928-1534) Safe Mode

 

 

 

After finishing your PC job with safe mode, do the same steps above,

but this time uncheck the two check boxes above for both safe boot, and

base video;  and press OK and restart. Your PC will restart to the normal mode.




On 12/11/2017 11:13 AM, Hareth wrote:
I my self tested it with multiple win7 PC's plus the win10 testing,
and quite few others that I know.
Just win8X is missing the confirmed test.
I believe for the best to put a notice
 telling people to give it a try when they have a sighted company
around to make sure 100% it works for their PC , before  they really
need to preform a task on it when problems  happens with it.
My last name is "Al-hamdany" but you can leave it with the 1st only.
and it is a co thing after all. I just mixed the reg
 code with the way to restart I was using sense I was sighted PC user
cause its faster to reboot than power of the computer and wait for it
to save stuff and sometimes it jams with something. Plus the standard
boot to the startup menu list is nut accessible
Anyway it served me big time with fixes I, I would never been able to
do without it.

Thanks again

On 12/11/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi Hareth

I will add your name to it near the heading of the tutorial. I only have
your first name so just add that or add a last name if you give it to me or
i might just leave it off.

not sure but might put and co? as i do not really want to put my name  as in
the extra bits.

it will go up in the next 12 hours and I will be leaving a copy in the drop
box account to link to for the file.

If i know it will also work on 7,8 etc i will mention that when i get some
more feed back.



Gene nz


On 12/11/2017 9:52 AM, Hareth wrote:

Of course, you can add what ever makes it better to use.
I've tested it with win10 the last 3 editions, and windows7 as well.
I'd assume it should work just fine for win8 or 8.1.
Sure it would be  better if anyone gives it a spin with those 2
untested win editions.
the initial dropbox link I've posted still working I didn't remove the
file, but for the best if the file stored on a permanent storage  with
a linked URL.
It would be an honor to have my name posted on your website, at  the
same time It won't bother me at all if you didn't, so do as you like.
Again all your work is greatly appreciated.
Best

On 12/10/17, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@...><mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>
wrote:


Hi Hareth


if you do not mind I might add a little to it but the content will pretty
much be the same.


The extra 2 parts will be a little about safe mode and why you would go
into
it.


the second part will be to confirm you are in safe mode and what type of
message you will get.


There will also be a drop box link for the file to get it that i have here
and used.


I only tested it with a windows 10 machine do you know if it would say work
for a windows 8 or 7 machine? I do not have any here to test with as i
could
note that on the page.

Just in case people ask questions or want to know if it works with there
sound cards as well.

I am guessing it will.


Do you want your name mentioned? on the tutorial or left off?


I will be uploading some material tonight and this tutorial will be part of
it. I will then let the community know.


Gene nz


On 12/11/2017 12:02 AM, Hareth wrote:

Hi Gene,
Sure I did say yes, feel free to post that or any of my posts in the
future.
I do appreciate your time and effort to help the community.
And for David, Thanks a lot for the kind words, greatly appreciate it.
All the best





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NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.




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Re: nvda unresponsiveness

Gene
 

At this point, we don't know enough to form proper opinions or conclusions.  One thing that should be checked is whether something is using more processor power than it should.  I don't recall what version of Windows you are running but once you tell us, people can tell you how to see how much processor power is being used by everything on your system in total.  If the number is excessively high, we can start looking at the amount of power individual programs use.  This problem may be the result of something using a lot of computer resources and whatever it is may be able to be removed or stopped if it isn't needed.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda unresponsiveness

Hi Kevin

I often use internet explorer as my browser.

Yes, I sometimes use firefox, but the problem is the same.

Although I am not 100% sure, I would like to conclude that the problem
is caused by the type of processor and the speed on my machine.

Why, because on my other laptop which use intel (R(core(tm)I4 with 4GB
memory, nvda respons very well without this problem.

My new HP laptop which gives me this problem use intel (r) seleron
processor at the speed of 1.6 GHZ.

Hope you understand.

Marisane

On 12/10/17, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
<the.big.white.shepherd@...> wrote:
> I only see this using firefox sometimes when arrowing down a page it
> stops talking and you just have to wait I have the latest Sr of ff sorry
> not sure what the latest Sr is but I got an update yesterday for the Esr
> sorry I have said Sr it should have been Esr sorry.
>
> On 10/12/2017 12:17, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
>> Might you have too many AddOns installed? Try running NVDA without the
>> AddOns: For this, NVDA+qq, and a dialogue should come up asking you what
>> you want to do; among these options is Start NVDA without AddOns. See if
>> this helps, to see if maybe it's an AddOn taht's causing this slowness?
>>
>>
>> El 10/12/2017 a las 03:11 a.m., Marisane Moruthanyana escribió:
>>> Morning nvda users
>>>
>>> I am Marisane from SA.
>>>
>>> I have, for sometime now, been looking for your assistance regarding
>>> nvda unresponsiveness but to no avail.
>>>
>>> I have recently upgraded to nvda 2017.4, but the unresponsiveness
>>> still persists.
>>>
>>> May I know whether this may be due to my laptop's using intel seleron
>>> processor at a speed of less than 2ghz?
>>>
>>> Does the processor type and its speed have any impact on nvda's
>>> functionality / dysfunctionality?
>>>
>>> What processor and speed should one take into account when buying a
>>> laptop so that nvda may respond positively?
>>>
>>> I am frustrated, because this happens only with nvda and not with jaws.
>>>
>>> I use jaws demo as I have no licence for it to do some work on my PC,
>>> but it responds very well that I do not have the same problems as
>>> those with nvda.
>>>
>>> If the processor type and its speed are the cause of nvda'
>>> unresponsiveness, why only it and not other screen reader like jaws?
>>>
>>> Your urgent assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.
>>>
>>> Please, please, please help, I am getting frustrated everyday.
>>>
>>> I solely rely on nvda as my jaws is only 40 minutes.
>>>
>>> Hope you understand.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Marisane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>




Re: nvda unresponsiveness

Marisane Moruthanyana
 

Hi Kevin

I often use internet explorer as my browser.

Yes, I sometimes use firefox, but the problem is the same.

Although I am not 100% sure, I would like to conclude that the problem
is caused by the type of processor and the speed on my machine.

Why, because on my other laptop which use intel (R(core(tm)I4 with 4GB
memory, nvda respons very well without this problem.

My new HP laptop which gives me this problem use intel (r) seleron
processor at the speed of 1.6 GHZ.

Hope you understand.

Marisane

On 12/10/17, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
<the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I only see this using firefox sometimes when arrowing down a page it
stops talking and you just have to wait I have the latest Sr of ff sorry
not sure what the latest Sr is but I got an update yesterday for the Esr
sorry I have said Sr it should have been Esr sorry.

On 10/12/2017 12:17, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Might you have too many AddOns installed? Try running NVDA without the
AddOns: For this, NVDA+qq, and a dialogue should come up asking you what
you want to do; among these options is Start NVDA without AddOns. See if
this helps, to see if maybe it's an AddOn taht's causing this slowness?


El 10/12/2017 a las 03:11 a.m., Marisane Moruthanyana escribió:
Morning nvda users

I am Marisane from SA.

I have, for sometime now, been looking for your assistance regarding
nvda unresponsiveness but to no avail.

I have recently upgraded to nvda 2017.4, but the unresponsiveness
still persists.

May I know whether this may be due to my laptop's using intel seleron
processor at a speed of less than 2ghz?

Does the processor type and its speed have any impact on nvda's
functionality / dysfunctionality?

What processor and speed should one take into account when buying a
laptop so that nvda may respond positively?

I am frustrated, because this happens only with nvda and not with jaws.

I use jaws demo as I have no licence for it to do some work on my PC,
but it responds very well that I do not have the same problems as
those with nvda.

If the processor type and its speed are the cause of nvda'
unresponsiveness, why only it and not other screen reader like jaws?

Your urgent assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.

Please, please, please help, I am getting frustrated everyday.

I solely rely on nvda as my jaws is only 40 minutes.

Hope you understand.

Regards
Marisane





Re: malware bites question

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Barry,


I don't know what anti virus program you are using, but with many--particularly McAfee and Symantec products, they give a lot of false positives.  I remember when people running NVDA had all sorts of problems with Symantec which kept eating up NVDA whenever it updated.

On 12/10/2017 8:45 PM, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi Ron,
A few months ago someone gave a link to bible seeker.  I tried to install it but, it didn't install.  I guess it was a virus.

-----Original Message----- From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 8:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

Hi Barry.


I have run Bible Seeker and its various components for years with no
problems.  This must be a false positive.



On 12/10/2017 8:05 PM, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi Anthony,

The threat is from bible seeker.  I hope this helps.

-----Original Message----- From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

What problem did it report?

Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do
about it.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it?  I am using the latest windows and nvda.  Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net
--
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: malware bites question

Gary Metzler
 

Hi Ron,
A few months ago someone gave a link to bible seeker. I tried to install it but, it didn't install. I guess it was a virus.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 8:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

Hi Barry.


I have run Bible Seeker and its various components for years with no
problems. This must be a false positive.



On 12/10/2017 8:05 PM, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi Anthony,

The threat is from bible seeker. I hope this helps.

-----Original Message----- From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

What problem did it report?

Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do
about it.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it? I am using the latest windows and nvda. Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: malware bites question

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Barry.


I have run Bible Seeker and its various components for years with no problems.  This must be a false positive.

On 12/10/2017 8:05 PM, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi Anthony,

The threat is from bible seeker.  I hope this helps.

-----Original Message----- From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

What problem did it report?

Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do
about it.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it?  I am using the latest windows and nvda.  Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: malware bites question

Ian Blackburn
 

Replace the Bible seeker
With theophilis


Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Dec 2017, at 9:05 am, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@comcast.net> wrote:

Hi Anthony,

The threat is from bible seeker. I hope this helps.

-----Original Message----- From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

What problem did it report?

Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do
about it.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it? I am using the latest windows and nvda. Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net
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Re: malware bites question

Gary Metzler
 

Hi Anthony,

The threat is from bible seeker. I hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

What problem did it report?

Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do
about it.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it? I am using the latest windows and nvda. Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net
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Re: I can't seem to create an account on the NVDA Vocalizer site what might I be doing wrong?

Roger Stewart
 

There are a rapidly increasing websites that don't work well with Firefox. Any Twitter client won't get registered at all if you use Firefox--it must be done with IE and not sure about Edge. Maybe this is one of them. Try going to the page with another browser and see if it will work. There's another site I use a lot, and when it's time to renew my subscription, it will refuse to work at all with Firefox but works every time with IE. Seems to be related to the interaction you must do with the site such as creating an account or paying for something. You can look at any website and find everything, but you just can't do much interactions with Firefox.

Roger

On 12/10/2017 4:36 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
I can't seem to create an account (for those who have bought the NVDA Vocalizer voices it's a requirement before proceeding); I entered everything my first and last name, country Mexico, password, EMail, but it keeps on saying that there was an error on the site, and to verify the info? but which info? I'm using Firefox. So if anyone has any ideas? Thanks.


I can't seem to create an account on the NVDA Vocalizer site what might I be doing wrong?

Gerardo Corripio
 

I can't seem to create an account (for those who have bought the NVDA Vocalizer voices it's a requirement before proceeding); I entered everything my first and last name, country Mexico, password, EMail, but it keeps on saying that there was an error on the site, and to verify the info? but which info? I'm using Firefox. So if anyone has any ideas? Thanks.

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Enviado desde Thunderbird


Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I'd not want the speed to be way too slow but at a good enough rate where
most users could understand the speech.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 1:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of
Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

Yes, agreed to slow would turn off most of the users I think.

On 10/12/2017 00:37, Gene wrote:
I don't think it’s a good idea to have the voice be painfully slow, as
accomodating new users might be for more experienced users.  I would
suggest doing what I do in tutorials.  I have the speech speak at a
good rate for experienced users, but I repeat things that are said so
the inexperienced listener will know what has been said.  I haven't
done a tutorial in quite some time and I don't recall if I say
everything or just about everything the speech says, but I repeat
everything as I move through a dialog, a ribbon, a menu, etc.  I
repeat everything that matters so users can tell what they need to
know.  My system accomodates both new and experienced synthesized speech
users..
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
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*Sent:* Saturday, December 09, 2017 5:47 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Request for comments: Should I record 2018
edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

OK, 1 make sure the voice is slow enough for new users. Most of the
tutorials I hear on the internet are using voices running way too fast.
 Next, I think that a little time needs to be spent in the snapshot
tutorial about how to use Github without going bald. I am not that
thick but I still find it cluttered and very hard to use.

Is Edge really any better for pdfs than Adobe? The big issue is as we
all know the clueless people who compile them with no tagging of
content reading order changes.

Firefox. Would you be using ESR or attempting to cover the new Quantum
version which even when it can be made to function is still like a
duck with a broken leg. OK in the water but tends to swim in circles a
lot!


Also of course I know that you are about to embark in a major  upgrade
to nvda to use a version of Python better able to cope with newer
systems, and this is bound to start throwing unexpected spanners into
the air to fall who knows where for a while, so its a good time to get
folk used to diagnosing and working around any problems by giving them
a bit of a lesson in the logic to find where problems might be etc.
 Just my few penneths worth.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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<mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 4:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of
Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?


> Dear global NVDA community,
>
>
>
> After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at
some > tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record
the 2018 > edition of the popular "Welcome to NVDA" tutorials set.
The thing is, > there > are more superb tutorials out now, including
NV Access's own Basic > Training > module. I do understand that many
folks have come to know NVDA through my > tutorials and some
tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.
>
>
>
> For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:
>
> http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials
>
>
>
> If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it'll be
done with > some conditions:
>
>
>
> * The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest
snapshot features.
> * I'll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
> * I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying
me, > I'd rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
> * If possible, I'll come up with a text transcript and a way for
folks > to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
> * I'll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode >
demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.
>
>
>
> Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided
you say > I > should do it:
>
>
>
> * I'll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
> * Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve >
recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as >
command > line switches to start a portable copy after creating one
and a note on > Controlled Folder Access.
> * Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities,
some > command changes (including copying the contents of status
bars) and > others.
> * Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new
examples, > especially more universal app examples.
> * Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents
with > Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands
on the fly > and > elements list improvements.
> * Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
> * Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings, >
including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
> * Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
> * Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples,
including > Remote Support add-on.
> * Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development
snapshots > and what not.
>
>
>
> Comments are appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>




Re: safe mode

Hareth
 

I my self tested it with multiple win7 PC's plus the win10 testing,
and quite few others that I know.
Just win8X is missing the confirmed test.
I believe for the best to put a notice
telling people to give it a try when they have a sighted company
around to make sure 100% it works for their PC , before they really
need to preform a task on it when problems happens with it.
My last name is "Al-hamdany" but you can leave it with the 1st only.
and it is a co thing after all. I just mixed the reg
code with the way to restart I was using sense I was sighted PC user
cause its faster to reboot than power of the computer and wait for it
to save stuff and sometimes it jams with something. Plus the standard
boot to the startup menu list is nut accessible
Anyway it served me big time with fixes I, I would never been able to
do without it.

Thanks again

On 12/11/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Hareth

I will add your name to it near the heading of the tutorial. I only have
your first name so just add that or add a last name if you give it to me or
i might just leave it off.

not sure but might put and co? as i do not really want to put my name as in
the extra bits.

it will go up in the next 12 hours and I will be leaving a copy in the drop
box account to link to for the file.

If i know it will also work on 7,8 etc i will mention that when i get some
more feed back.



Gene nz


On 12/11/2017 9:52 AM, Hareth wrote:

Of course, you can add what ever makes it better to use.
I've tested it with win10 the last 3 editions, and windows7 as well.
I'd assume it should work just fine for win8 or 8.1.
Sure it would be better if anyone gives it a spin with those 2
untested win editions.
the initial dropbox link I've posted still working I didn't remove the
file, but for the best if the file stored on a permanent storage with
a linked URL.
It would be an honor to have my name posted on your website, at the
same time It won't bother me at all if you didn't, so do as you like.
Again all your work is greatly appreciated.
Best

On 12/10/17, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz><mailto:hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>
wrote:


Hi Hareth


if you do not mind I might add a little to it but the content will pretty
much be the same.


The extra 2 parts will be a little about safe mode and why you would go
into
it.


the second part will be to confirm you are in safe mode and what type of
message you will get.


There will also be a drop box link for the file to get it that i have here
and used.


I only tested it with a windows 10 machine do you know if it would say work
for a windows 8 or 7 machine? I do not have any here to test with as i
could
note that on the page.

Just in case people ask questions or want to know if it works with there
sound cards as well.

I am guessing it will.


Do you want your name mentioned? on the tutorial or left off?


I will be uploading some material tonight and this tutorial will be part of
it. I will then let the community know.


Gene nz


On 12/11/2017 12:02 AM, Hareth wrote:

Hi Gene,
Sure I did say yes, feel free to post that or any of my posts in the
future.
I do appreciate your time and effort to help the community.
And for David, Thanks a lot for the kind words, greatly appreciate it.
All the best





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NVDA
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location) is near to you please visit
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Re: nvda unresponsiveness

Kevin Cussick
 

I only see this using firefox sometimes when arrowing down a page it stops talking and you just have to wait I have the latest Sr of ff sorry not sure what the latest Sr is but I got an update yesterday for the Esr sorry I have said Sr it should have been Esr sorry.

On 10/12/2017 12:17, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Might you have too many AddOns installed? Try running NVDA without the AddOns: For this, NVDA+qq, and a dialogue should come up asking you what you want to do; among these options is Start NVDA without AddOns. See if this helps, to see if maybe it's an AddOn taht's causing this slowness?
El 10/12/2017 a las 03:11 a.m., Marisane Moruthanyana escribió:
Morning nvda users

I am Marisane from SA.

I have, for sometime now, been looking for your assistance regarding
nvda unresponsiveness but to no avail.

I have recently upgraded to nvda 2017.4, but the unresponsiveness
still persists.

May I know whether this may be due to my laptop's using intel seleron
processor at a speed of less than 2ghz?

Does the processor type and its speed have any impact on nvda's
functionality / dysfunctionality?

What processor and speed should one take into account when buying a
laptop so that nvda may respond positively?

I am frustrated, because this happens only with nvda and not with jaws.

I use jaws demo as I have no licence for it to do some work on my PC,
but it responds very well that I do not have the same problems as
those with nvda.

If the processor type and its speed are the cause of nvda'
unresponsiveness, why only it and not other screen reader like jaws?

Your urgent assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.

Please, please, please help, I am getting frustrated everyday.

I solely rely on nvda as my jaws is only 40 minutes.

Hope you understand.

Regards
Marisane



Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

Kevin Cussick
 

Yes, agreed to slow would turn off most of the users I think.

On 10/12/2017 00:37, Gene wrote:
I don't think it’s a good idea to have the voice be painfully slow, as accomodating new users might be for more experienced users.  I would suggest doing what I do in tutorials.  I have the speech speak at a good rate for experienced users, but I repeat things that are said so the inexperienced listener will know what has been said.  I haven't done a tutorial in quite some time and I don't recall if I say everything or just about everything the speech says, but I repeat everything as I move through a dialog, a ribbon, a menu, etc.  I repeat everything that matters so users can tell what they need to know.  My system accomodates both new and experienced synthesized speech users..
Gene
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OK, 1 make sure the voice is slow enough for new users. Most of the
tutorials I hear on the internet are using voices running way too fast.
 Next, I think that a little time needs to be spent in the snapshot tutorial
about how to use Github without going bald. I am not that thick but I still
find it cluttered and very hard to use.
Is Edge really any better for pdfs than Adobe? The big issue is as we all
know the clueless people who compile them with no tagging of content reading
order changes.
Firefox. Would you be using ESR or attempting to cover the new Quantum
version which even when it can be made to function is still like a duck with
a broken leg. OK in the water but tends to swim in circles a lot!
Also of course I know that you are about to embark in a major  upgrade to
nvda to use a version of Python better able to cope with newer systems, and
this is bound to start throwing unexpected spanners into the air to fall who
knows where for a while, so its a good time to get folk used to diagnosing
and working around any problems by giving them a bit of a lesson in the
logic to find where problems might be etc.
 Just my few penneths worth.
 Brian
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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com <mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 4:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of
Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

> Dear global NVDA community,
>
>
>
> After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some
> tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018
> edition of the popular "Welcome to NVDA" tutorials set. The thing is,
> there
> are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access's own Basic
> Training
> module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my
> tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.
>
>
>
> For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:
>
> http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials
>
>
>
> If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it'll be done
with
> some conditions:
>
>
>
> * The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest
> snapshot features.
> * I'll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
> * I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me,
> I'd rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
> * If possible, I'll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks
> to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
> * I'll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode
> demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.
>
>
>
> Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided
you say
> I
> should do it:
>
>
>
> * I'll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
> * Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve
> recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as
> command
> line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on
> Controlled Folder Access.
> * Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some
> command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and
> others.
> * Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples,
> especially more universal app examples.
> * Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with
> Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly
> and
> elements list improvements.
> * Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
> * Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings,
> including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
> * Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
> * Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including
> Remote Support add-on.
> * Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots
> and what not.
>
>
>
> Comments are appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>


Re: safe mode

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Hareth

I will add your name to it near the heading of the tutorial. I only have your first name so just add that or add a last name if you give it to me or i might just leave it off.

not sure but might put and co? as i do not really want to put my name  as in the extra bits.

it will go up in the next 12 hours and I will be leaving a copy in the drop box account to link to for the file.

If i know it will also work on 7,8 etc i will mention that when i get some more feed back.



Gene nz



On 12/11/2017 9:52 AM, Hareth wrote:
Of course, you can add what ever makes it better to use.
I've tested it with win10 the last 3 editions, and windows7 as well.
I'd assume it should work just fine for win8 or 8.1.
Sure it would be  better if anyone gives it a spin with those 2
untested win editions.
the initial dropbox link I've posted still working I didn't remove the
file, but for the best if the file stored on a permanent storage  with
a linked URL.
It would be an honor to have my name posted on your website, at  the
same time It won't bother me at all if you didn't, so do as you like.
Again all your work is greatly appreciated.
Best

On 12/10/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi Hareth


if you do not mind I might add a little to it but the content will pretty
much be the same.


The extra 2 parts will be a little about safe mode and why you would go into
it.


the second part will be to confirm you are in safe mode and what type of
message you will get.


There will also be a drop box link for the file to get it that i have here
and used.


I only tested it with a windows 10 machine do you know if it would say work
for a windows 8 or 7 machine? I do not have any here to test with as i could
note that on the page.

Just in case people ask questions or want to know if it works with there
sound cards as well.

I am guessing it will.


Do you want your name mentioned? on the tutorial or left off?


I will be uploading some material tonight and this tutorial will be part of
it. I will then let the community know.


Gene nz


On 12/11/2017 12:02 AM, Hareth wrote:

Hi Gene,
Sure I did say yes, feel free to post that or any of my posts in the
future.
I do appreciate your time and effort to help the community.
And for David, Thanks a lot for the kind words, greatly appreciate it.
All the best





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screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.




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Re: safe mode

Hareth
 

Of course, you can add what ever makes it better to use.
I've tested it with win10 the last 3 editions, and windows7 as well.
I'd assume it should work just fine for win8 or 8.1.
Sure it would be better if anyone gives it a spin with those 2
untested win editions.
the initial dropbox link I've posted still working I didn't remove the
file, but for the best if the file stored on a permanent storage with
a linked URL.
It would be an honor to have my name posted on your website, at the
same time It won't bother me at all if you didn't, so do as you like.
Again all your work is greatly appreciated.
Best

On 12/10/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Hareth


if you do not mind I might add a little to it but the content will pretty
much be the same.


The extra 2 parts will be a little about safe mode and why you would go into
it.


the second part will be to confirm you are in safe mode and what type of
message you will get.


There will also be a drop box link for the file to get it that i have here
and used.


I only tested it with a windows 10 machine do you know if it would say work
for a windows 8 or 7 machine? I do not have any here to test with as i could
note that on the page.

Just in case people ask questions or want to know if it works with there
sound cards as well.

I am guessing it will.


Do you want your name mentioned? on the tutorial or left off?


I will be uploading some material tonight and this tutorial will be part of
it. I will then let the community know.


Gene nz


On 12/11/2017 12:02 AM, Hareth wrote:

Hi Gene,
Sure I did say yes, feel free to post that or any of my posts in the
future.
I do appreciate your time and effort to help the community.
And for David, Thanks a lot for the kind words, greatly appreciate it.
All the best





--
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.


Re: Browsing hierarchical tree of comments

Adriani Botez
 

Hello Tony,

 

unfortunately I could not find a work around for your problem. The comments are not separated by colors, but by aligments I guess. So, it certainly depends on the screen resolution and screen size as well. In my view, it is not possible to solve this problem by NVDA. And from an accessible perspective, you would need a multi line braille display or something like this to easily find the comment you want to read.

 

Apart from that, I doubt that it would improve your user experience if redit collapses all levels automatically. You would have to expand them again and again to find relevant comments.

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Tony Malykh
Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Dezember 2017 03:41
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Browsing hierarchical tree of comments

 

Here are some examples:

200+ comments:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14477851

 

90+ comments:

https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/7gtm54/the_best_books_of_2017_megalist/

 

8000+ comments:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/34m5n6/reddit_what_are_some_must_read_books/

 

Although these days reddit is smart enough to collapse deep branches of replies, it still often shows second-level comments.

 

Tony

 

 

 

 

On 12/7/2017 1:33 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Could you please copy a link here where you have suche comments with many levels?

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Tony Malykh
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2017 20:25
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Browsing hierarchical tree of comments

 

Gene, I'm sorry I missed your question. I tried deducing the level of comment by its contents, but I found it was too hard. Some posts have several hundreds of comments. Every top level comment might have a tree of a few dozen replies. And depending on the topic of the post, sometimes it is not clear at all whether the comment is a top level one or a reply. Also my brain gets tired of trying to deduce the level of the comment. Now since I get the offset of a comment directly, it is going to be much easier for my brain, since I would need to listen and only compare the number (offset being equal to the top-level comment offset).

 

Tony

 

On 12/6/2017 4:39 PM, Gene wrote:

I ask a question in this message and make a few comments but the second half of the message discusses what might be a related command, at least in terms of how you would program it.  Perhaps if there is enough interest on the list, the developers will work on it soon. 

 

The review cursor by default if you are using object navigation follows the system cursor.  But what I'm saying is if you only want to read the top level comments, then don't you have to move to every comment and measure the distance?  My question is how that is better than reading a few words of each comment to see if you want to continue.  But maybe you have to read enough of each comment that it is slower enough to matter. 

 

Evidently, the speak position command has more functions than in the old version of NVDA I use.  So you are correct that to hear the numbers, you have to issue the command twice.

Also, the idea of being able to jump to the next occurrence of text starting a certain point from the left of the screen might be related to another feature NVDA should have.  If you have a page with two or three columns or more and you want to only read one column, you should be able to define a start point and an end point farther to the right.  Then you could read and only have that defineed column read.  ASAP had a read column feature in JAWS.  I seldo had to use it but I would imagine it was very useful to some people,  Consider one use with NVDA:

Suppose you got a poorly formatted PDF document where pages didn't decolumnize properly.  Rather than have decolumnization occur, if you could just have the page recognized with no decolumnization and set the columns yourself, you might be able to read such documents. 

 

Genea distance from the left of the screen
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:22 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Browsing hierarchical tree of comments

 

I am an NVDA newbie, so I don't know how or why this works, but it works for me. I tried it on both Reddit and Hacker News in Google Chrome and Firefox. I don't have to press any extra buttons to route the review cursor, perhaps the review cursor just follows the system cursor in my case.

 

After your email I tried pressing Insert+Delete only once, and it indeed speaks the horizontal offset of current object in (I assume) pixels. After pressing it twice it speaks the horizontal offset in percentage of the screen width. So either way can be used.

 

I like your idea about NVDA addon that would let you jump between paragraphs with the same offset. I might try to write such a plugin myself when I have some free time.

 

Tony

 

 

On 12/6/2017 3:33 PM, Gene wrote:

I haven't tried this but I don't see how using the cursor location feature would help much.  You would still have to move to the beginning of each comment and check the distance.  If that would save you time in not having to read any of the comment, I don't know but having to move to the next comment and check the distance of each comment would seem to be cumbersome and perhaps not much easier than reading a bit of each comment to see if it’s a reply.  but those who try this may explain that I'm wrong and why. 

 

Perhaps what we need, if this can be done, is a feature or a plugin you can set to look for text that starts a certain distance from the left side of the screen and then be able to jump to the next text that starts at the same number of pixels from the left of the screen.  You could issue a next and a back command to move to these items.  So the idea may lead to a good solution if such a feature can be developed.

 

By the way, you don't have to issue the command twice.  It does the same thing if issued once or more times.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 4:20 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Browsing hierarchical tree of comments

 

I've been playing with NVDA and just discovered a simple solution: press
Insert + Numpad Delete twice (Report review cursor location) and it will
tell you the distance from the left edge of the screen. The greater the
distance - the deeper the level of the comment.


I think in theory something can be done on the client side to make the
comments more readable for screenreader users.. You can write a browser
plugin that would modify a page to include the level of the comment
explicitly for example. But this is only in theory: my knowledge of
javascript/HTML/CSS is too poor to write it myself.


Tony





On 12/6/2017 11:29 AM, Bill Dengler wrote:
> I’m interested in this as well, but suspect it requires changes on the site’s end.
>
> Bill
>
>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Tony Malykh <anton.malykh@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Many websites have tree-like structure of comments. For
>> example, reddit, hacker news, and probably a lot more websites are
>> like this. Sometimes I would like to read some comments, but for
>> example I would like to read only the top-level comments, and not the
>> deeper levels, because that would be the replies to the top-level
>> comments, and they are typically not as interesting. Is there any way
>> to achieve this with NVDA?
>>
>> So, for example, I would like to have a key combination to jump to the
>> next same level comment. Right now I can only jump to the next comment
>> of any level by searching a keyword ("up vote" or something, that
>> appears next to every comment), and then I'd have to deduce in my mind
>> what level comment is this. It is very tedious to browse comments this way.
>>
>> Another way that might help me would be to figure out the level of the
>> current comment. At least I'd be able to move down through the
>> comments without reading them and without trying to deduce its level
>> from the contents.
>>
>> I can use Firefox, Google Chrome and IE, so I'd be happy to find a solution that works in any of these browsers.
>>
>> Any advice would be appreciated!
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



 

 

 


Re: Automatic switch braile output table in NVDA

Adriani Botez
 

Hello, yes there is indicators in there. Look for example this URL in
romanian:
http://ro-nvda.tk/userGuide.html

It is the user guide for NVDA.

Some examples:
In Romanian, there is a letter which is pronounced tz. In braille this is
dot 2, 4 and 6. But on the braille display there appears something with
'x012b' or so. eSpeak say "Character 1 2 b" when trying to read the letter.
The whole word however is correctly pronounced. But not the single
character.

In Turkish, there is a letter which pronounced sounds like a mix of I and a.
In braille is written by dot 3 and dot 5. For example the word nasılsın. It
means how are you, but on the braille display there appears a code instead
of dots 3 and 5 for that letter.


Automatically switch language and dialects is enabled. When I manually
choose output table Turkish, the sign is being correctly recognized. But
eSpeak and other synthesizers still pronounce it wrong.

What we would need here is an automatic combination of output tables in
braille when corresponding letters need to be displayed.

As far as I can see, Romanian braille is not implemented. Is it an option
for NVDA to implement BRLTTY drivers in the core? That driver supports much
more languages than libluis. Both drivers would cover much more signs.


Best
Adriani



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Antony
Stone
Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Dezember 2017 01:02
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Automatic switch braile output table in NVDA

Is there any indication (for example in the HTML source code) that the
change is occurring?

Can you give an example URL of a website containing multiple languages so we
can see whether there's anything NVDA could pick up on to indicate "oh, it's
German now" or whatever?


Antony.

On Friday 08 December 2017 at 00:52:19, Adriani Botez wrote:

This happens in several text editors and the browser, especially on
websites where you can learn new languages, gramar and ortography.


Best
Adriani
Am 08.12.2017 um 00:16 schrieb Antony Stone:

What application/s are you talking about where this text is displayed?

What information is available to NVDA to tell it what language is
being used at any given point?

I don't see how this could be done automatically, so unless whatever
application (browser? word processor? text editor? other?) you
are using has some way of indicating "language switches to X here" I
don't think NVDA can be expected to reinterpret all on its own.


Antony.

On Friday 08 December 2017 at 00:10:42, adriani.botez wrote:

Dear all,

If I have a text where german and russian words are combined, when
i choose german output table the russian letters are shown as a
combination of signs I cannot understand. On the other hand, if I
switch the tables, the german letters are not being displayed
correctly.

Is there a possibility to tell NVDA to automaically recognize the
language and to choose the right table accordingly? Let's say I
would restrict it to grade 1 or so.

Best
Adriani
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Re: safe mode

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Hareth


if you do not mind I might add a little to it but the content will pretty much be the same.


The extra 2 parts will be a little about safe mode and why you would go into it.


the second part will be to confirm you are in safe mode and what type of message you will get.


There will also be a drop box link for the file to get it that i have here and used.


I only tested it with a windows 10 machine do you know if it would say work for a windows 8 or 7 machine? I do not have any here to test with as i could note that on the page.

Just in case people ask questions or want to know if it works with there sound cards as well.

I am guessing it will.


Do you want your name mentioned? on the tutorial or left off?


I will be uploading some material tonight and this tutorial will be part of it. I will then let the community know.


Gene nz



On 12/11/2017 12:02 AM, Hareth wrote:
Hi Gene,
Sure I did say yes, feel free to post that or any of my posts in the future.
I do appreciate your time and effort to help the community.
And for David, Thanks a lot for the kind words, greatly appreciate it.
All the best




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