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nvda google chrome and spin button edit boxes in shopping sites

Lisa-Maree
 

Hello,
I have found that nvda does not read the number in spin button edit boxes in
google chrome, such as the ones found on shopping sites when ordering, so
that you can't check how many of each item you have ordered.

Is there a work around for this, or is this just a glitch with google
chrome?
Thanks,
Lisa-Maree


Re: nvda as an exe file

 

thanks so much for your kindness, God bless you and his infinite mercy
i pray for you!

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Well, then, I hope you are extremely careful with emails and web sites as
there are nasty people out there.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file


no, as i said, i dont have any security programs like any antivirus
and dont trust any of them, even microsoft security essential!

On 12/10/17, Joe Hunter via Groups.Io
<joehunter=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
clicked on ok, certainly did every time.


On 12/9/2017 6:59 PM, Chris wrote:

That is odd joe, did you click ok when you changed the level?

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*Subject: *Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

ok time to clarify if possible. when I ran the up data my uac was set
at 34 percent. after I tried to run nvda's updata and it stopped
partway through the process. I checked uac levels and it stated it
was 100 percent so no I did not alter it my self ut the system altered
itself.

On 12/9/2017 2:17 PM, Chris wrote:

Where is uac ?

you stated in a previous message you set it at 0% now you are
saying its at 100%

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*Subject: *Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

saved the file and ran it from downloads folder and it ran untill
it got to the first peace of music then it stated that it was
upgrading previous versions of nvda and shows 0 were it stays at 0
with no progress. after trying to upgrade via the update and then
looking at uac levels the levels show 100 percent sorry if I have
explained clearly.

On 12/9/2017 12:57 PM, Gene wrote:

What do you mean by is blocking it? At this point, we have no
way of knowing what is blocking it, an antivirus program that
sees it as a false positive or something else? UAC is very
unlikely to have anything to do with the problem.
Specifically, what happens when you try whatever you are
trying? Are you able to download the file but not run it or
can you not download the file?

Gene

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*Subject:*Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

thanks criss but tried the exe file but my system is blocking
it. My uac is at 34 percent tried to lower this to zearo but
still blocking. I have a desktop running win10 hal or nvda.
not quite sure what to do next?

On 12/9/2017 12:29 PM, Chris wrote:

Here you go


https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2017.4/nvda_2017.4.exe

save it somewhere for future reference 😃

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*Subject: *[nvda] nvda as an exe file

Hi all tried to update nvda but it stops partway in the
installation so

thought I would try to download an exe file on nvda's
websight but could

not find sutch. is there an exe available yet. Joe


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Re: malware bites question

Gary Metzler
 

Hi Brian,

Thanks for the response. What keys do I use to get to screen navagation? Thanks,

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Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

You need to use screen navigation to get to the items as whoever wrote the
software seems to have taken a holiday on that part. Before you decide to
delete though, have a look at the log, which you can read from inside the
software and see exactly what it found. If its just a possibly unwanted bit
of software it might actually be something you want to keep, like a password
finder etc. Many of these tools are seen as malicious when they are not
really.
Also if its cookies be sure no log in or config details are not in that
cookie before you allow it to be deleted.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Metzler" <gmtravel@comcast.net>
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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 4:39 PM
Subject: [nvda] malware bites question


Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it? I am using the latest windows and nvda. Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox
sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net


Re: malware bites question

Gary Metzler
 

Hi Ron,

I am using windows defender.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 12:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

Hi Barry,


I don't know what anti virus program you are using, but with
many--particularly McAfee and Symantec products, they give a lot of
false positives. I remember when people running NVDA had all sorts of
problems with Symantec which kept eating up NVDA whenever it updated.


On 12/10/2017 8:45 PM, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi Ron,
A few months ago someone gave a link to bible seeker. I tried to install it but, it didn't install. I guess it was a virus.

-----Original Message----- From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 8:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

Hi Barry.


I have run Bible Seeker and its various components for years with no
problems. This must be a false positive.



On 12/10/2017 8:05 PM, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi Anthony,

The threat is from bible seeker. I hope this helps.

-----Original Message----- From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

What problem did it report?

Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do
about it.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it? I am using the latest windows and nvda. Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net
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Re: nvda unresponsiveness

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Yes indeed HP laptops if purchased from one of the big stores nearly always come with clutter. They have lots of junk, erm useful demos of expensive software on them and the first job really is to look at what is on there and remove all the unwanted stuff. However do be careful with demos of Microsoft Offiice as uninstalling these has a history of screwing up the registry for screenreader users.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda unresponsiveness


At this point, we don't know enough to form proper opinions or conclusions. One thing that should be checked is whether something is using more processor power than it should. I don't recall what version of Windows you are running but once you tell us, people can tell you how to see how much processor power is being used by everything on your system in total. If the number is excessively high, we can start looking at the amount of power individual programs use. This problem may be the result of something using a lot of computer resources and whatever it is may be able to be removed or stopped if it isn't needed.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Marisane Moruthanyana
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 12:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda unresponsiveness


Hi Kevin

I often use internet explorer as my browser.

Yes, I sometimes use firefox, but the problem is the same.

Although I am not 100% sure, I would like to conclude that the problem
is caused by the type of processor and the speed on my machine.

Why, because on my other laptop which use intel (R(core(tm)I4 with 4GB
memory, nvda respons very well without this problem.

My new HP laptop which gives me this problem use intel (r) seleron
processor at the speed of 1.6 GHZ.

Hope you understand.

Marisane

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<the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I only see this using firefox sometimes when arrowing down a page it
stops talking and you just have to wait I have the latest Sr of ff sorry
not sure what the latest Sr is but I got an update yesterday for the Esr
sorry I have said Sr it should have been Esr sorry.

On 10/12/2017 12:17, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Might you have too many AddOns installed? Try running NVDA without the
AddOns: For this, NVDA+qq, and a dialogue should come up asking you what
you want to do; among these options is Start NVDA without AddOns. See if
this helps, to see if maybe it's an AddOn taht's causing this slowness?


El 10/12/2017 a las 03:11 a.m., Marisane Moruthanyana escribió:
Morning nvda users

I am Marisane from SA.

I have, for sometime now, been looking for your assistance regarding
nvda unresponsiveness but to no avail.

I have recently upgraded to nvda 2017.4, but the unresponsiveness
still persists.

May I know whether this may be due to my laptop's using intel seleron
processor at a speed of less than 2ghz?

Does the processor type and its speed have any impact on nvda's
functionality / dysfunctionality?

What processor and speed should one take into account when buying a
laptop so that nvda may respond positively?

I am frustrated, because this happens only with nvda and not with jaws.

I use jaws demo as I have no licence for it to do some work on my PC,
but it responds very well that I do not have the same problems as
those with nvda.

If the processor type and its speed are the cause of nvda'
unresponsiveness, why only it and not other screen reader like jaws?

Your urgent assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.

Please, please, please help, I am getting frustrated everyday.

I solely rely on nvda as my jaws is only 40 minutes.

Hope you understand.

Regards
Marisane





Re: malware bites question

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No it was probably due to a false positive then, but a bit of it is still there I suspect.
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 1:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question


Hi Ron,
A few months ago someone gave a link to bible seeker. I tried to install it but, it didn't install. I guess it was a virus.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 8:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

Hi Barry.


I have run Bible Seeker and its various components for years with no
problems. This must be a false positive.



On 12/10/2017 8:05 PM, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi Anthony,

The threat is from bible seeker. I hope this helps.

-----Original Message----- From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

What problem did it report?

Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do
about it.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it? I am using the latest windows and nvda. Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net
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Re: malware bites question

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Do you still have this installed and do you use it?
If yes to both ignore it.
False positives are a fact of life these days.
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question


Hi Anthony,

The threat is from bible seeker. I hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

What problem did it report?

Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do
about it.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it? I am using the latest windows and nvda. Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net
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Re: I can't seem to create an account on the NVDA Vocalizer site what might I be doing wrong?

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In my experience this is only the case with the new Firefox not the old one.
Indeed IE11 has its problems, on some search engines, though not google, IE refuses to recognise the links in the results as links at all!

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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't seem to create an account on the NVDA Vocalizer site what might I be doing wrong?


There are a rapidly increasing websites that don't work well with Firefox. Any Twitter client won't get registered at all if you use Firefox--it must be done with IE and not sure about Edge. Maybe this is one of them. Try going to the page with another browser and see if it will work. There's another site I use a lot, and when it's time to renew my subscription, it will refuse to work at all with Firefox but works every time with IE. Seems to be related to the interaction you must do with the site such as creating an account or paying for something. You can look at any website and find everything, but you just can't do much interactions with Firefox.

Roger








On 12/10/2017 4:36 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
I can't seem to create an account (for those who have bought the NVDA Vocalizer voices it's a requirement before proceeding); I entered everything my first and last name, country Mexico, password, EMail, but it keeps on saying that there was an error on the site, and to verify the info? but which info? I'm using Firefox. So if anyone has any ideas? Thanks.


Avg was Re: [nvda] malware bites question

Angela Delicata
 

Hi,

I tried  avg remover, but it is impossible to use  with screen readers.

So, in the end, I suppose i have to wait till some sighted helps me.

thank you anyway and if you ave more suggestions they will be very welcome.

ciao!

Il 11/12/2017 10:42, Ian Blackburn ha scritto:
If it’s like a vast then you need to use a clear program from the website completely in accessible

The vast clear program makes the computer boot up into a special Mode that you must use the mouse to operate that will clear your avast

Sent from my iPhone

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Is Avg a 64 bit install? if not then the old version of Revo will do it or always used to.
I'd have thought that their site would give some kind of help on removal but it may well involve the sighted. The problem is as they now seem to belong to the same outfit as Avast they are probably prohibiting screenreaders from hooking in to their code as well.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Delicata" <angeladelicata@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question


Hi,

Please excuse me if the question is not close related to nvda, but as you are talking about antivirus program, I thought I would try to ask,

I installed avg antivirus, but as it is not so accessible, I would like to remove it completely. it is impossible to do so because it seems it has some problems removing itself.

does any one know how to do? If you can, please help me.

Even after installing Windows 10 avg is still here!
I really have no idea on how to handle it.
Thank you in advance.
Ciao.
Angela from Italy

Il 11/12/2017 02:05, Gary Metzler ha scritto:
Hi Anthony,

The threat is from bible seeker. I hope this helps.

-----Original Message----- From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

What problem did it report?

Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do
about it.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it? I am using the latest windows and nvda. Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net






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Re: malware bites question

Angela Delicata
 

Hi,

this is Windows 10 32 bits.

I tried to remove avg, but the uninstall process was not completed and some registry entry are still here and seem to dominate my pc.

Thank you.

Il 11/12/2017 10:40, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Is Avg a 64 bit install? if not then the old version of Revo will do it or always used to.
I'd have thought that their site would give some kind of help on removal but it may well involve the sighted. The problem is as they now seem to belong to the same outfit as Avast they are probably prohibiting screenreaders from hooking in to their code as well.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Delicata" <angeladelicata@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question


Hi,

Please excuse me if the question is not close related to nvda, but as you are talking about antivirus program, I thought I would try to ask,

I installed avg antivirus, but as it is not so accessible, I would like to remove it completely. it is impossible to do so because it seems it has some problems removing itself.

does any one know how to do? If you can, please help me.

Even after installing Windows 10 avg is still here!
I really have no idea on how to handle it.
Thank you in advance.
Ciao.
Angela from Italy

Il 11/12/2017 02:05, Gary Metzler ha scritto:
Hi Anthony,

The threat is from bible seeker. I hope this helps.

-----Original Message----- From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

What problem did it report?

Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do
about it.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it? I am using the latest windows and nvda. Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net





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Re: Strange isue when browsing webpages

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Funny you should bring this up. I found that some web pages even in espeak are switching languages for some texts and links when its not appropriate at all. Really irritating and cannot decide if its actually the browser or nvda or the web site.
It will go away in miy case if I turn all refs to automatic language switching off in the dialogues. If you have any personal configs set up as a profile do not forget to check those too.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 7:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] Strange isue when browsing webpages


Hello guys,

I seem to be facing a strange issue when browsing web pages,

I am using the latest version of nvda and vocalizer tts voices,
When i am browsing a page,
The body of the page is read in a female voice and only the links are read in the male vocalizer voice, it's kind of annoying.

Anybody know how to fix this,

I would like pages to be read in only one vocalizer voice,
Thanks
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Re: malware bites question

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You need to use screen navigation to get to the items as whoever wrote the software seems to have taken a holiday on that part. Before you decide to delete though, have a look at the log, which you can read from inside the software and see exactly what it found. If its just a possibly unwanted bit of software it might actually be something you want to keep, like a password finder etc. Many of these tools are seen as malicious when they are not really.
Also if its cookies be sure no log in or config details are not in that cookie before you allow it to be deleted.

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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 4:39 PM
Subject: [nvda] malware bites question


Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I delete it? I am using the latest windows and nvda. Thanks for any help.Regards, Gary kn4ox
sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net


Re: NVDA Out of Focus on Some Clickables

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Is this in any particular browser?
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 3:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Out of Focus on Some Clickables


NVDA 2017.xx, windows 10, Firefox Version XXX
Sometimes, if an item is clickable, or one of those in page links, and you press space or enter on that item, NVDA will jump to the system tray, or pull up something that says
"Neww notification window"
If you press window title hotkey, it says
"shellexperiencehost"
It's like it's doing a mouse click instead of activating the item, or jumping completely off screen somewhere.
This behavior is random and not easy to catch, but I notice that it occurs, for example, sometimes, if you follow those links on Amazon where it says
"People who bought this item also bought"
There are back and next links. Those little listings are on the same page as the main item you are looking at, and it just scrolls a list of related items or something; I haven't taken a look at the code to see what is really happening, there. Another example is if an item is clickable and not an actual link. For example, my bank's website has a
"Login"
clickable item, and not an actual link. If i pres enter or space on that, it will sometimes jump me to that
"shellexperiencehost"
item, or the system tray.
Has anyone else observed this?


Re: safe mode

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Who can say that for a fact. Many do emulate the one that its designed for but I bet not all will and I think some usb phones need a different driver.
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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] safe mode


Does this work with all sound cards? Thanks.


Re: nvda as an exe file

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Well, then, I hope you are extremely careful with emails and web sites as there are nasty people out there.
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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file


no, as i said, i dont have any security programs like any antivirus
and dont trust any of them, even microsoft security essential!

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clicked on ok, certainly did every time.


On 12/9/2017 6:59 PM, Chris wrote:

That is odd joe, did you click ok when you changed the level?

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ok time to clarify if possible. when I ran the up data my uac was set
at 34 percent. after I tried to run nvda's updata and it stopped
partway through the process. I checked uac levels and it stated it
was 100 percent so no I did not alter it my self ut the system altered
itself.

On 12/9/2017 2:17 PM, Chris wrote:

Where is uac ?

you stated in a previous message you set it at 0% now you are
saying its at 100%

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saved the file and ran it from downloads folder and it ran untill
it got to the first peace of music then it stated that it was
upgrading previous versions of nvda and shows 0 were it stays at 0
with no progress. after trying to upgrade via the update and then
looking at uac levels the levels show 100 percent sorry if I have
explained clearly.

On 12/9/2017 12:57 PM, Gene wrote:

What do you mean by is blocking it? At this point, we have no
way of knowing what is blocking it, an antivirus program that
sees it as a false positive or something else? UAC is very
unlikely to have anything to do with the problem.
Specifically, what happens when you try whatever you are
trying? Are you able to download the file but not run it or
can you not download the file?

Gene

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*Subject:*Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

thanks criss but tried the exe file but my system is blocking
it. My uac is at 34 percent tried to lower this to zearo but
still blocking. I have a desktop running win10 hal or nvda.
not quite sure what to do next?

On 12/9/2017 12:29 PM, Chris wrote:

Here you go


https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2017.4/nvda_2017.4.exe

save it somewhere for future reference 😃

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Hi all tried to update nvda but it stops partway in the
installation so

thought I would try to download an exe file on nvda's
websight but could

not find sutch. is there an exe available yet. Joe


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Re: Future of Access

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If the designers do not understand blind access you often end up ith an api that does not have all the 'signal's lets call them that the access software might need making the designer still need to hack or screen scrape to get at the other vital parts.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Future of Access


It all depends, not everyone will be like apple is with access or google to a point.

They may just put in something that makes it accessible but not really.

Here is the thing, microsoft is promoting access even for games in a real big way and they are one of the big kids

I don't fully scoff this though, soni has put in access for its stuff, and a lot of hardware manufacturers are trying to make things app based for phones.

But not everyone is playing nice, at least not fully nice.

As I said before the companies that made it first will still not want to share, they will find ways to hold things back.



On 9/12/2017 6:14 a.m., tonea.ctr.morrow@faa.gov wrote:
The whole discussion on cell phones lacking accessibility is why I put up the information on the 508 Refresh. Simply put, it requires hardware developers who provide an OS that accompanies the hardware to also provide a certain level of accessibility. I may be looking at it with rose-colored glasses, but it must either support attachable access or provide access, that includes speech functions.

Tonea Morrow



Re: nvda unresponsiveness

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Yes indeed that processor is struggling nowadays.
Also not much Ram there so its probably using virtual memory, ie the hard drive, and if that is not an SSD one then its going to be real slow in lots of situations.
I had one of those machines some time ago and it was very slow doing some stuff, like in Word, finding and displaying files in explorer and even displaying some web pages.

I think its a cut down processor and so causes a bottleneck when several things are trying to get the processor time together.
Download the resource monitor add on from the web site of nvda contributors and see what the processor usage is at various times.
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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 9:11 AM
Subject: [nvda] nvda unresponsiveness


Morning nvda users

I am Marisane from SA.

I have, for sometime now, been looking for your assistance regarding
nvda unresponsiveness but to no avail.

I have recently upgraded to nvda 2017.4, but the unresponsiveness
still persists.

May I know whether this may be due to my laptop's using intel seleron
processor at a speed of less than 2ghz?

Does the processor type and its speed have any impact on nvda's
functionality / dysfunctionality?

What processor and speed should one take into account when buying a
laptop so that nvda may respond positively?

I am frustrated, because this happens only with nvda and not with jaws.

I use jaws demo as I have no licence for it to do some work on my PC,
but it responds very well that I do not have the same problems as
those with nvda.

If the processor type and its speed are the cause of nvda'
unresponsiveness, why only it and not other screen reader like jaws?

Your urgent assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.

Please, please, please help, I am getting frustrated everyday.

I solely rely on nvda as my jaws is only 40 minutes.

Hope you understand.

Regards
Marisane


Re: malware bites question

Ian Blackburn
 

If it’s like a vast then you need to use a clear program from the website completely in accessible

The vast clear program makes the computer boot up into a special Mode that you must use the mouse to operate that will clear your avast

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Is Avg a 64 bit install? if not then the old version of Revo will do it or always used to.
I'd have thought that their site would give some kind of help on removal but it may well involve the sighted. The problem is as they now seem to belong to the same outfit as Avast they are probably prohibiting screenreaders from hooking in to their code as well.


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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question


Hi,

Please excuse me if the question is not close related to nvda, but as you are talking about antivirus program, I thought I would try to ask,

I installed avg antivirus, but as it is not so accessible, I would like to remove it completely. it is impossible to do so because it seems it has some problems removing itself.

does any one know how to do? If you can, please help me.

Even after installing Windows 10 avg is still here!
I really have no idea on how to handle it.
Thank you in advance.
Ciao.
Angela from Italy

Il 11/12/2017 02:05, Gary Metzler ha scritto:
Hi Anthony,

The threat is from bible seeker. I hope this helps.

-----Original Message----- From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

What problem did it report?

Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do
about it.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it? I am using the latest windows and nvda. Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net


Re: malware bites question

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Is Avg a 64 bit install? if not then the old version of Revo will do it or always used to.
I'd have thought that their site would give some kind of help on removal but it may well involve the sighted. The problem is as they now seem to belong to the same outfit as Avast they are probably prohibiting screenreaders from hooking in to their code as well.


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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question


Hi,

Please excuse me if the question is not close related to nvda, but as you are talking about antivirus program, I thought I would try to ask,

I installed avg antivirus, but as it is not so accessible, I would like to remove it completely. it is impossible to do so because it seems it has some problems removing itself.

does any one know how to do? If you can, please help me.

Even after installing Windows 10 avg is still here!
I really have no idea on how to handle it.
Thank you in advance.
Ciao.
Angela from Italy

Il 11/12/2017 02:05, Gary Metzler ha scritto:
Hi Anthony,

The threat is from bible seeker. I hope this helps.

-----Original Message----- From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

What problem did it report?

Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do
about it.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it? I am using the latest windows and nvda. Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net


Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

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What is too slow though? Certainly the gabble rate is far too fast for me and I've been using screenreaders for many years.
Also as to many you will be using an unfamiliar voice it pays to be careful.

Maybe we need to find a test of some sort.
Brian

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Yes, agreed to slow would turn off most of the users I think.

On 10/12/2017 00:37, Gene wrote:
I don't think it’s a good idea to have the voice be painfully slow, as accomodating new users might be for more experienced users. I would suggest doing what I do in tutorials. I have the speech speak at a good rate for experienced users, but I repeat things that are said so the inexperienced listener will know what has been said. I haven't done a tutorial in quite some time and I don't recall if I say everything or just about everything the speech says, but I repeat everything as I move through a dialog, a ribbon, a menu, etc. I repeat everything that matters so users can tell what they need to know. My system accomodates both new and experienced synthesized speech users..
Gene
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OK, 1 make sure the voice is slow enough for new users. Most of the
tutorials I hear on the internet are using voices running way too fast.
Next, I think that a little time needs to be spent in the snapshot tutorial
about how to use Github without going bald. I am not that thick but I still
find it cluttered and very hard to use.

Is Edge really any better for pdfs than Adobe? The big issue is as we all
know the clueless people who compile them with no tagging of content reading
order changes.

Firefox. Would you be using ESR or attempting to cover the new Quantum
version which even when it can be made to function is still like a duck with
a broken leg. OK in the water but tends to swim in circles a lot!


Also of course I know that you are about to embark in a major upgrade to
nvda to use a version of Python better able to cope with newer systems, and
this is bound to start throwing unexpected spanners into the air to fall who
knows where for a while, so its a good time to get folk used to diagnosing
and working around any problems by giving them a bit of a lesson in the
logic to find where problems might be etc.
Just my few penneths worth.
Brian

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Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 4:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of
Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?


> Dear global NVDA community,
>
>
>
> After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some
> tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018
> edition of the popular "Welcome to NVDA" tutorials set. The thing is,
> there
> are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access's own Basic
> Training
> module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through
my
> tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.
>
>
>
> For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:
>
> http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials
>
>
>
> If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it'll be done
with
> some conditions:
>
>
>
> * The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest
> snapshot features.
> * I'll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
> * I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me,
> I'd rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
> * If possible, I'll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks
> to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
> * I'll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode
> demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.
>
>
>
> Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you
say
> I
> should do it:
>
>
>
> * I'll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
> * Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve
> recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as
> command
> line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note
on
> Controlled Folder Access.
> * Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some
> command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and
> others.
> * Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples,
> especially more universal app examples.
> * Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with
> Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the
fly
> and
> elements list improvements.
> * Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
> * Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings,
> including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
> * Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
> * Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including
> Remote Support add-on.
> * Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots
> and what not.
>
>
>
> Comments are appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>