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Re: In-Process 13th December 2017

Adriani Botez
 

Dear all, dear Quentin,

First, huge thanks for your great work and for maintaining and improving this project continuously.

At the same time, I really hope that nv access is aware of the growing social responsibility of this project for more and more blind and visually impaired people worldwide. The more users, the more feedback and the more likely that expectations to NVDA will increase. Not only with respect to fast improvement, but also regarding professionality and usability. I hope NV Access is aware of the huge development impact of this project and finally, I hope NV Access will not colaps under this pressure. I am sure there is a future plan for this aspect.

With respect to financing, dfis like DEG, Proparco, FMO, american developing bank, african developing bank etc. are most probably willing to sponsor and donate for this project. In case of DEG, I am 100% sure it would provide sponsoring.
 

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Am 13.12.2017 um 03:57 schrieb Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>:

Hi everyone,

Well it's that time of year, the last In-Process blog for the year!  Here it is:


Thanks for being so supportive and enthusiastic of the blog this year.  It's been fun and I look forward to bringing it to you again regularly in 2018!

Quentin.

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Re: removing avg

 

Which is really sad.

I want to be as secure as fort nox just like the next guy, but I don't want to be dictated to, have non accessible systems, have a screwed up box because of it, have no control bar a reformat, etc, etc, etc.

Now msse, crappy security but I can control it.

Why can I control crap software but not good software.

I don't understand at all.

And its  why I am never going to use good security software even if it is accessible because I have done that to many times and then boom its changed without reason and bang back down I go.

As a result I no longer trust any security software previder with my life.

They don't serve me, so I don't serve them.

A reformat fixes everything, they make it impossible for me to use their interface and thats where we are.

On 12/12/2017 6:26 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Being fair, its actually not so bad, but if you cannot control it due to its inaccessibility then its really not for blind people.
I still find it astounding that so many pieces of software in mass use just do not consider blind users. as an aging population more and more computer users of today will as they age lose their sight and expect to be able to use their software, but it seems that  it s just not happening.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Delicata" <angeladelicata@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] removing avg


unfortunately, i think this will be the case for me as well because it seems like a cancer on my pc, it won't remove: it has taken control over my emails too: really garbage software.

thank you again for your kind replies.

Ciao!

Angela from Italy




Il 11/12/2017 12:54, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Good morning,

For what it is worth,

I had trouble removing avg as well and had to get sighted help.






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Re: nvda volume

Robert Mendoza
 

To setup your synth setting for volume, pressing control plus caps lock plus right arrow keys. till you heard of Volume. And to increase press up arrow keys, or down arrow key to decrease the volume you desire.

Robert Mendoza
On 12/13/2017 3:00 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Hi,

 

What is the key combo to increase or decrease volume   without using the nvda menu?

Thanks,

Monte



Re: removing avg

 

You know as long as you allowed something like tolque or the nvda controler dll in your program you could tell nvda what to say without an addon, teamtalk does this well enough.

On 12/12/2017 6:19 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yup, a friend of mine says the core part of it is protected so well that screenreaders cannot actually get at the controls or menus.
Increasingly, anti virus makers are doing this, probably for legitimate reasons of stopping them getting hacked but nobody seems to have thought about us. Surely a simple self voicing uninstaller using the built in Microsoft voice would be all that was needed.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 11:54 AM
Subject: [nvda] removing avg


Good morning,

For what it is worth,

I had trouble removing avg as well and had to get sighted help.







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Re: Survey: Preferred Help Format

 

It depends on what you want.

1.  htm, its the easiest system to handle.

You can use it in any browser app.

2.  chm, well its searchable, you can use something like 7zip to extract the html out of that.

Pdf.

I havn't  really used this format, I have converted that to text files and read it like that.

Html would be my prefered option over all as you can get access to it any way you wish.

Chm is basically html but in a treeview I guess it could work.

I have used pdf manuals but its much easier to have html.

Saying that if its all online for something then thats fine to.

Word documents are good, text files can be a bit long winded but can also be good.

On 12/12/2017 3:44 a.m., tonea.ctr.morrow@faa.gov wrote:
My team hasn't told me which help format we will be using for the online help. So, I thought I'd ask a little survey:

Which online help system do you prefer to use and a brief why, a.k.a. does one grant you more opportunities than another or is one more difficult with which to make a screen reader work?:

A) Win Help (chm): old-style windows help system with a content tree on the left, a large pane containing information filling the right and center areas, and a header across the top with forward, backward type buttons.

B) HTML Help: the design is similar to Win Help, but the whole thing runs in a web browser-whichever one is your default browswer.

C) PDF - Portable Document Format with proper tags.


nvda volume

Monte Single
 

Hi,

 

What is the key combo to increase or decrease volume   without using the nvda menu?

Thanks,

Monte


Re: Error when selecting Download voices from NVDA Vocalizer menu

 

Are you sure things are just only your computer.

Try it on another, and or try it on another computer somewhere else.

Sometimes sites just screw up totally.

You can try restarting your box.

Ofcause if that happens to much, its probably your network.

Do search for cmd or comand prompt

use shift control enter to get admin rights, say yes.

then do ipconfig /flushdns

then exit.

Its saved me from restarting, you log back in and if it works then your net is out of sync with the network.

I have found this happens from time to time and have no idea why it does.

On 12/12/2017 2:49 a.m., Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Am I the only one, that when activating the download Extra voices from THE NVDA Vocalizer menu that one gets when installing and activating the NVDA Vocalizer voice package, I get an error page? Hopefully this can be fixed in an update, because it'd save time in wanting to browse to see what other voices there are, especially trying the Premium ones.


Re: nvda unresponsiveness

 

Yeah, ms office, a few wild tangent games and mcafee, why they insist on that is really beyond me.

When I get my gaming laptop, I am seriously going to outright ask for a driver disk, and a stright out win10 disk and see what they do, or an image without the demos and crap on it, I'll even pay a little extra for it not being included.

Heck, I don't need their recovery image, win10 talks now so as long as I can get their site working and all the serials and things I can make it all work enough!

Then again, a lot of the software that toshiba and hp have are usually usefull.

Sadly their support app is inacurate its good to copy product info off but thats it sadly.

I do think though that there needs to be some program or batch written to fix these dll issues though.

On 11/12/2017 11:17 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes indeed HP laptops if purchased from one of the big stores nearly always come with clutter. They have lots of junk, erm useful demos of expensive software on them and the first job really is to look at what is on there and remove all the unwanted stuff. However do be careful with demos of Microsoft Offiice as  uninstalling these has a history of screwing up the registry for screenreader users.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda unresponsiveness


At this point, we don't know enough to form proper opinions or conclusions. One thing that should be checked is whether something is using more processor power than it should.  I don't recall what version of Windows you are running but once you tell us, people can tell you how to see how much processor power is being used by everything on your system in total.  If the number is excessively high, we can start looking at the amount of power individual programs use.  This problem may be the result of something using a lot of computer resources and whatever it is may be able to be removed or stopped if it isn't needed.

Gene
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From: Marisane Moruthanyana
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 12:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda unresponsiveness


Hi Kevin

I often use internet explorer as my browser.

Yes, I sometimes use firefox, but the problem is the same.

Although I am not 100% sure, I would like to conclude that the problem
is caused by the type of processor and the speed on my machine.

Why, because on my other laptop which use intel (R(core(tm)I4 with 4GB
memory, nvda respons very well without this problem.

My new HP laptop which gives me this problem use intel (r) seleron
processor at the speed of 1.6 GHZ.

Hope you understand.

Marisane

On 12/10/17, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
<the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I only see this using firefox sometimes when arrowing down a page it
stops talking and you just have to wait I have the latest Sr of ff sorry
not sure what the latest Sr is but I got an update yesterday for the Esr
sorry I have said Sr it should have been Esr sorry.

On 10/12/2017 12:17, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Might you have too many AddOns installed? Try running NVDA without the
AddOns: For this, NVDA+qq, and a dialogue should come up asking you what
you want to do; among these options is Start NVDA without AddOns. See if
this helps, to see if maybe it's an AddOn taht's causing this slowness?


El 10/12/2017 a las 03:11 a.m., Marisane Moruthanyana escribió:
Morning nvda users

I am Marisane from SA.

I have, for sometime now, been looking for your assistance regarding
nvda unresponsiveness but to no avail.

I have recently upgraded to nvda 2017.4, but the unresponsiveness
still persists.

May I know whether this may be due to my laptop's using intel seleron
processor at a speed of less than 2ghz?

Does the processor type and its speed have any impact on nvda's
functionality / dysfunctionality?

What processor and speed should one take into account when buying a
laptop so that nvda may respond positively?

I am frustrated, because this happens only with nvda and not with jaws.

I use jaws demo as I have no licence for it to do some work on my PC,
but it responds very well that I do not have the same problems as
those with nvda.

If the processor type and its speed are the cause of nvda'
unresponsiveness, why only it and not other screen reader like jaws?

Your urgent assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.

Please, please, please help, I am getting frustrated everyday.

I solely rely on nvda as my jaws is only 40 minutes.

Hope you understand.

Regards
Marisane









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Re: Avg was Re: [nvda] malware bites question

 

To be honest thats why I like.

1.  a pc with a data drive as well as a system drive.

2.  backups.

I have had security programs muck me about.

But thats not a problem, all my data is double backed up on spining drives, the important stuff is on solid state drives and the cloud.

If something screws up, just reformat and don't do it again.

A reformat always fixes it.

I know it will take me about 2 days to install and several days to reconfigure things.

Sadly I do not have a 2 drive system, the next powerbox I get will have one even though the weight will be more.

My dad and brother both have this system.

That technically means that if I have a place to store configs of things, and my data, if it screws up, in theory I can cut the restore time in half.

It may take you days to resolve the issue.

It may take a week or 2 to fully restore but at least you know where you go.

I use msse, and malwarebytes if something stupid goes up at me.

I do have ublock and noscript 5x on my side, still sore about what mozilla did to firefox and web extentions, it appears they don't care about accessibility anymore.

Its not spread to thunderbird yet and I have waterfox, that at least runs.

And thats all I care about.

I know thats selfish but I have been there and done that.

Avg was good once.

But then norton was darn good bar a few niggles from 1995-2003, after that it went downhill.

Which was just sad, I still respect old nav, ndd, norton speed, and windoctor for their ease of use.

Its all gone baa humbug!


Now we must use crap software just to use our systems and not even then is it always safe to use your programs even with that but at least you can control it.

If you switch to something better there is no garantee that it will stay that way.

Now I want to be protected.

Its just I really don't want to worry about program x suddenly being marked as bad even though it was good for ages.

I don't need to reformat every couple weeks because things get deleted.

I don't want to search for things or check things were working and I really don't care about babysitting.

In the early days I did that.

For whatever reason when I was 10 years yunger I enjoyed that.

Not so much now.

When msse first came out I realised how much time I was wasting.

I havn't found anything to compair, not that win defender is safe, false alarms on a lot of blind games and programs not as much as other software but still means I have to keep watch.

Even so I can still use  my computer most of the time.

On 11/12/2017 11:09 p.m., Angela Delicata wrote:
Hi,

I tried  avg remover, but it is impossible to use  with screen readers.

So, in the end, I suppose i have to wait till some sighted helps me.

thank you anyway and if you ave more suggestions they will be very welcome.

ciao!



Il 11/12/2017 10:42, Ian Blackburn ha scritto:
If it’s like a vast then you need to use a clear program from the website completely in accessible

The vast clear program makes the computer boot up into a special Mode that you must use the mouse to operate that will clear your avast

Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Dec 2017, at 5:40 pm, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Is Avg a 64 bit install? if not then the old version of Revo will do it or always used to.
I'd have thought that their site would give some kind of help on removal but it may well involve the sighted. The problem is as they now seem to belong to the same outfit as Avast they are probably prohibiting screenreaders from hooking in to their code as well.


Brian

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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question


Hi,

Please excuse me if the question is not close related to nvda, but as you are talking about antivirus program, I thought I would try to ask,

I installed avg antivirus, but as it is not so accessible, I would like to remove it completely. it is impossible to do so because it seems it has some problems removing itself.

does any one know how to do? If you can, please help me.

Even after installing Windows 10 avg is still here!
I really have no idea on how to handle it.
Thank you in advance.
Ciao.
Angela from Italy

Il 11/12/2017 02:05, Gary Metzler ha scritto:
Hi Anthony,

The threat is from bible seeker. I hope this helps.

-----Original Message----- From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

What problem did it report?

Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do
about it.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it? I am using the latest windows and nvda. Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net







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Re: Speech Player In Espeak has it's own issues

Gene
 

It won't give you update alerts if you set it not to.  It's a check box in the general settings.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] Speech Player In Espeak has it's own issues

So for the last few days, I've been using Speech Player in Espeak instead of Espeak-NG. The problem is there are a few glitches in this as well and I'm seriously considering just using my portable copy of 2017.3, except that I know that version gives me update alerts.

The pronunciation glitches include some weirdness whenever the "ho" syllable is followed by a vowel. It doesn't do it with "home" or "host" but with words like "hoist" it becomes clear. And annoying. This is an issue I don't remember ever having in espeak before, so I don't know where it came from.


Is there a way to stop NVDA from flagging reminders to update? If there is, I might just go back to 2017.3 until these synth issues are fixed...


Re: In-Process 13th December 2017

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Quentin

Thanks for the update. But, one thing I noticed from the blogsite it was mentioned that eSpeak ng is update to 1.49.2. My question is that this also been for the master snapshot as well or this is specifically for the stable version 2017.4?

Robert Mendoza
On 12/13/2017 10:57 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi everyone,

Well it's that time of year, the last In-Process blog for the year!  Here it is:


Thanks for being so supportive and enthusiastic of the blog this year.  It's been fun and I look forward to bringing it to you again regularly in 2018!

Quentin.

--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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Re: Parenthesis

 

hi.
for me who set my punctuation set to none, it pauses on either side of
the parenthesis. A comma does the same thing, so I would have to guess
which is a paren and which a comma.
i dont want to hear punctuations and set it to none.
meanwhile, for capital letters, the first character of every word only
can be capitalized.
if not, espeak in nvda, reads many words letter by letter or
ununderstandable and bad manner that its explanation is not easy for
me to say in english.

On 12/12/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Or, the employer should at least let you use Narrator (provided this is a
Windows 10 computer).

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rayn
Darren
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Parenthesis



I realize you cannot load anything not required for your job on your
machine
at work, however, as accessibility is part of your job, it could be argued
that NVDA or the trial version of Jaws as well as a magnifier program would
in fact be a necessity. That being said, you could always load it onto your
personal computer and have a look round at settings.



Rayn



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
tonea.ctr.morrow@faa.gov
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Parenthesis



No, actually, I can't. I work on a contract with the United States
Government, so I only have on the computer what I am given, and that does
not include any screen-reading software. I am sighted. I write help manuals
and help files for software that other people write. I have sentences like
this:



The second zoom method is to hold the control key while pressing + (plus)
to
zoom in or while pressing - (minus) to zoom out.



To a sighted person, the word "plus" in parenthesis clarifies that the
symbol it follows is a plus symbol, just as the word "minus" in parenthesis
clarifies that the symbol it follows in a minus symbol and not a hyphen or
an em-dash or some other symbol. I literally need to know how your screen
reader treats words or phrases that are in parenthesis so I can write to
take your perception into account. The example above, combined with the
previous example I gave will help a lot.



Tonea (by the way, it is pronounced Toe knee uh, with the accent on the
knee.)



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Antony Stone
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 10:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Parenthesis



Um, can't you just type a paragraph such as the one you wrote, into a text
editor, and then get NVDA to read it back to you, so you can tell for
yourself?



Bear in mind though that this might be one of those things that varies
according to the speech synthesiser in use, so different users might get
different effects - but at least whatever the effect is will be the same
for
each person as they always get for that type of input, so they should be
used to it.





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Re: Speech Player In Espeak has it's own issues

 

hello.
press insert control g to open general menu.
then, press shift tab three times and uncheck Automatically check for
updates to NVDA with space key.
hope that help, God bless you!

On 12/13/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
Go to the NVDA menu with insert N and arrow down to "help". Hit enter on it
and arrow down to "check for updates" and uncheck it.



Hope this helps.



Rosemarie





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 7:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Speech Player In Espeak has it's own issues



So for the last few days, I've been using Speech Player in Espeak instead of
Espeak-NG. The problem is there are a few glitches in this as well and I'm
seriously considering just using my portable copy of 2017.3, except that I
know that version gives me update alerts.

The pronunciation glitches include some weirdness whenever the "ho" syllable
is followed by a vowel. It doesn't do it with "home" or "host" but with
words like "hoist" it becomes clear. And annoying. This is an issue I don't
remember ever having in espeak before, so I don't know where it came from.



Is there a way to stop NVDA from flagging reminders to update? If there is,
I might just go back to 2017.3 until these synth issues are fixed...



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Re: In-Process 13th December 2017

Sky Mundell
 

Hello.  This is Sky. I would like to thank NV Access for the great screen reader they’ve come out with.  I had no idea that 11 years ago that NVDA would even be as good as it is now. 11 years ago , when I looked at NVDA, it was quite primitive compared to today. It didn’t support SAPI 4 until 2007, only SAPI 5. When you went into a dialog box, NVDA would read the entire dialog from top to bottom. For example, if you went into the run dialog, it would say, run dialog type the name of a folder, document, or internet resource, and windows will open it for you. OK button cancel button browse button. This was 11 years ago, 2006. Also, in 2006, You couldn’t install NVDA on a computer, you could only run it via USB, or if you had the folder on one of your drives, you had to launch that folder, and then run NVDA. Here’s to a great future with this product!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] In-Process 13th December 2017

 

Hi everyone,

 

Well it's that time of year, the last In-Process blog for the year!  Here it is:

 

 

Thanks for being so supportive and enthusiastic of the blog this year.  It's been fun and I look forward to bringing it to you again regularly in 2018!

 

Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Speech Player In Espeak has it's own issues

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Go to the NVDA menu with insert N and arrow down to "help". Hit enter on it and arrow down to "check for updates" and uncheck it.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 7:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Speech Player In Espeak has it's own issues

 

So for the last few days, I've been using Speech Player in Espeak instead of Espeak-NG. The problem is there are a few glitches in this as well and I'm seriously considering just using my portable copy of 2017.3, except that I know that version gives me update alerts.

The pronunciation glitches include some weirdness whenever the "ho" syllable is followed by a vowel. It doesn't do it with "home" or "host" but with words like "hoist" it becomes clear. And annoying. This is an issue I don't remember ever having in espeak before, so I don't know where it came from.

 

Is there a way to stop NVDA from flagging reminders to update? If there is, I might just go back to 2017.3 until these synth issues are fixed...


Re: In-Process 13th December 2017

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Quentin,

 

I'd like to thank you and everyone at NV Access for everything you've done to make NVDA the great screen reader that it is today. I've really enjoyed reading the blogs for this year and look forward to reading them again in 2018.

 

Rosemarie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] In-Process 13th December 2017

 

Hi everyone,

 

Well it's that time of year, the last In-Process blog for the year!  Here it is:

 

 

Thanks for being so supportive and enthusiastic of the blog this year.  It's been fun and I look forward to bringing it to you again regularly in 2018!

 

Quentin.

 

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Speech Player In Espeak has it's own issues

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

So for the last few days, I've been using Speech Player in Espeak instead of Espeak-NG. The problem is there are a few glitches in this as well and I'm seriously considering just using my portable copy of 2017.3, except that I know that version gives me update alerts.

The pronunciation glitches include some weirdness whenever the "ho" syllable is followed by a vowel. It doesn't do it with "home" or "host" but with words like "hoist" it becomes clear. And annoying. This is an issue I don't remember ever having in espeak before, so I don't know where it came from.


Is there a way to stop NVDA from flagging reminders to update? If there is, I might just go back to 2017.3 until these synth issues are fixed...


In-Process 13th December 2017

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

Well it's that time of year, the last In-Process blog for the year!  Here it is:


Thanks for being so supportive and enthusiastic of the blog this year.  It's been fun and I look forward to bringing it to you again regularly in 2018!

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Boot with NVDA

Andrea Sherry
 

Please what is the link to download this boot cdrom image.

Andrea

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Re: Alex

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

Welcome to the club. I'd love to see the Siri male and female voices, especially the ones now in iOS11 be available on Windows with NVDA, or for that mind on OSX on the Mac, but I don't perceive that as happening anytime soon lamentably.

I don't know much about this myself, though I do have some inside sources, not as many as I used to, but still, to Apple, anyway, I do know that Alex as well as the Siri voices are not part of Vocalizer, nor are they a part of the Nuance voices.

Just wanted to clarify that from someone who is an extremely extremely in depth/advanced Apple user of just about all their products.

Chris.

On Dec 12, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:

At&T holds the copyright for Alex I believe.


On 12/11/2017 12:28 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
If it is Alex then you will need to find out who owns the copyright. It may well be that Apple wanted at least some voices only they have, and hence anyone else using it would no doubt get sued to within an inch of their wallets.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] iPhone's Siri Male US English voice for use with NVDA?


Hi,
I wants had a copy of the Alex voice that worked with Anna VDA. It wasn't a full-fledged voice though. It could read a few things, but that's about it. Really wish someone would make one that was full-fledged. If it existed, I would download it in a heartbeat.

Sent from my Apple Watch

On Dec 11, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Damien Sykes <damien@dcpendleton.plus.com> wrote:

Hi,
Are you sure it's a Vocaliser voice and not one made by Apple? Apple recently started putting their own voices onto iOS, like Alex and so on.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message----- From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 1:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] iPhone's Siri Male US English voice for use with NVDA?

I'm looking for the Siri Male iPhone voice (or its equivalent) on
Tiflotecnia's Vocalizer Voices page, to use especially for reading, with
NVDA, but it's not there. Might it be that's not been added yet? It'd be
a dream come true if I could have it. Thanks for info.

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