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Firefox Accessibility (was Re: Avg was Re: [nvda] malware bites question)

Kevin Huber
 

Hi Shaun:

I think I read somewhere that the Mozilla people are working on an
accessibility fix for the next version that comes out, or the
following one. Whether you can take them at their word or not remains
to be seen, but I wouldn't count them out completely yet. Meanwhile,
Google Chrome seems to work well with both NVDA and JAWS. Granted,
there a few things that you have to get used to, but the learning
curve doesn't seem to steep.

Kevin Huber

On 12/13/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
To be honest thats why I like.

1. a pc with a data drive as well as a system drive.

2. backups.

I have had security programs muck me about.

But thats not a problem, all my data is double backed up on spining
drives, the important stuff is on solid state drives and the cloud.

If something screws up, just reformat and don't do it again.

A reformat always fixes it.

I know it will take me about 2 days to install and several days to
reconfigure things.

Sadly I do not have a 2 drive system, the next powerbox I get will have
one even though the weight will be more.

My dad and brother both have this system.

That technically means that if I have a place to store configs of
things, and my data, if it screws up, in theory I can cut the restore
time in half.

It may take you days to resolve the issue.

It may take a week or 2 to fully restore but at least you know where you
go.

I use msse, and malwarebytes if something stupid goes up at me.

I do have ublock and noscript 5x on my side, still sore about what
mozilla did to firefox and web extentions, it appears they don't care
about accessibility anymore.

Its not spread to thunderbird yet and I have waterfox, that at least runs.

And thats all I care about.

I know thats selfish but I have been there and done that.

Avg was good once.

But then norton was darn good bar a few niggles from 1995-2003, after
that it went downhill.

Which was just sad, I still respect old nav, ndd, norton speed, and
windoctor for their ease of use.

Its all gone baa humbug!


Now we must use crap software just to use our systems and not even then
is it always safe to use your programs even with that but at least you
can control it.

If you switch to something better there is no garantee that it will stay
that way.

Now I want to be protected.

Its just I really don't want to worry about program x suddenly being
marked as bad even though it was good for ages.

I don't need to reformat every couple weeks because things get deleted.

I don't want to search for things or check things were working and I
really don't care about babysitting.

In the early days I did that.

For whatever reason when I was 10 years yunger I enjoyed that.

Not so much now.

When msse first came out I realised how much time I was wasting.

I havn't found anything to compair, not that win defender is safe, false
alarms on a lot of blind games and programs not as much as other
software but still means I have to keep watch.

Even so I can still use my computer most of the time.




On 11/12/2017 11:09 p.m., Angela Delicata wrote:
Hi,

I tried avg remover, but it is impossible to use with screen readers.

So, in the end, I suppose i have to wait till some sighted helps me.

thank you anyway and if you ave more suggestions they will be very
welcome.

ciao!



Il 11/12/2017 10:42, Ian Blackburn ha scritto:
If it’s like a vast then you need to use a clear program from the
website completely in accessible

The vast clear program makes the computer boot up into a special Mode
that you must use the mouse to operate that will clear your avast

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On 11 Dec 2017, at 5:40 pm, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
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Is Avg a 64 bit install? if not then the old version of Revo will do
it or always used to.
I'd have thought that their site would give some kind of help on
removal but it may well involve the sighted. The problem is as they
now seem to belong to the same outfit as Avast they are probably
prohibiting screenreaders from hooking in to their code as well.


Brian

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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question


Hi,

Please excuse me if the question is not close related to nvda, but
as you are talking about antivirus program, I thought I would try to
ask,

I installed avg antivirus, but as it is not so accessible, I would
like to remove it completely. it is impossible to do so because it
seems it has some problems removing itself.

does any one know how to do? If you can, please help me.

Even after installing Windows 10 avg is still here!
I really have no idea on how to handle it.
Thank you in advance.
Ciao.
Angela from Italy

Il 11/12/2017 02:05, Gary Metzler ha scritto:
Hi Anthony,

The threat is from bible seeker. I hope this helps.

-----Original Message----- From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

What problem did it report?

Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on
what to do
about it.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it? I am using the latest windows and nvda. Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net







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Re: removing avg

Kevin Huber
 

Hi Brian:

I don't think that we exist on the radar of a lot of antivirus makers,
yet, if it has to be a choice between makihng it more accessible and
making it more secure, which would you choose?

Kevin Huber

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Yup, a friend of mine says the core part of it is protected so well that
screenreaders cannot actually get at the controls or menus.
Increasingly, anti virus makers are doing this, probably for legitimate
reasons of stopping them getting hacked but nobody seems to have thought
about us. Surely a simple self voicing uninstaller using the built in
Microsoft voice would be all that was needed.
Brian

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Subject: [nvda] removing avg


Good morning,

For what it is worth,

I had trouble removing avg as well and had to get sighted help.









Re: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

Kevin Huber
 

Hi Gene:

Thanks for those new tutorials. I did not know that you can access
Safe mode with NVDA. I will check into that.
Kevin Huber

On 12/12/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
Hi guys

Pages recently updated
Recently updated: Added links to NVDA Guides on all NVDA related pages

New: Added a tutorial How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with
the NVDA screen reader by Hareth and co to the NVDA audio tutorials page
under the troubleshooting section
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html Added a
tutorial (by Gene Asner) called Navigating ribbons in WordPad (to the NVDA
tutorials learning the basics page)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20learning%20the%20basics.html
Added a tutorial called Using the Ribbon interface in Windows via the
keyboard (by Brian Vogel) to the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page.
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html

Gene NZ

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Re: Error when selecting Download voices from NVDA Vocalizer menu

Rui Fontes
 

No, it is a driver error.


Rui



Às 06:44 de 13/12/2017, Shaun Everiss escreveu:

Are you sure things are just only your computer.

Try it on another, and or try it on another computer somewhere else.

Sometimes sites just screw up totally.

You can try restarting your box.

Ofcause if that happens to much, its probably your network.

Do search for cmd or comand prompt

use shift control enter to get admin rights, say yes.

then do ipconfig /flushdns

then exit.

Its saved me from restarting, you log back in and if it works then your net is out of sync with the network.

I have found this happens from time to time and have no idea why it does.




On 12/12/2017 2:49 a.m., Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Am I the only one, that when activating the download Extra voices from THE NVDA Vocalizer menu that one gets when installing and activating the NVDA Vocalizer voice package, I get an error page? Hopefully this can be fixed in an update, because it'd save time in wanting to browse to see what other voices there are, especially trying the Premium ones.








Re: Avast and accessibility

Gene
 

Avast is considered one of the best free programs.  But it isn't properly accessible though you can use an older version if you learn about its quirks.  That version isn't properly accessible but it's more or less usable.  I haven't followed what else is more or less accessible, though there are programs that are more accessible.  They may or may not be as good but you may or may not want to use the less accessible choice, Avast.
 
Gene

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From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 7:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] Avast and accessibility

Hi,


I know I have seen this discussed before but didn't need to follow the thread at that time.


How accessible is Avast?  Is it better than AVG or not?


Thanks.


Dan beaver


Re: In-Process 13th December 2017

Robert Mendoza
 

The bast expansion of nvda would be certainly been reached from each other side or should I say boundless with no barriers.  If we work as one together there is no one left behind of using computers. I am grateful to be part of the process of development of this tool in screen reading. Looking forward to the upcoming future release of nvda. Again, congrats to all.

Robert Mendoza
On 12/13/2017 6:59 PM, iván Novegil wrote:

I hope that in a few years time we have a Spanish-speaking country in the top of countries with users of NVDA. You've created the WhatsApp group, we're editing articles in Spanish about NVDA creating a big central information point and other people is contributing to the NVDA's expansion. Finally, some important persons of the international NVDA community speak Spanish as their main language. And it's really great and is helping us to grow up.


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O 13/12/2017 á(s) 11:37, Gerardo Corripio escribiu:

Indeed! Thanks for all you guys do at NVAccess! You're definitely changing lives thorughout Mexico and Latin America, in having a viable alternative than the regularly-used Jaws, especially because of Jaws being so expensive, thus with NVDA you're reopening doors for so many blind people who otherwise wouldn't have been able to use computers. Also over at Ciberaprendiendo (the Blindness tech podcast over at www.eiberoamerica.com) I'm doing my promoting of NVDA via podcasts episodes dedicated to it, hoping that even more resistant users of the Shark, might take the plunge and switch. And lastly, my promoting NVDA has brought me to create a Whatsapp Spanish group "NVDA Access para Todos" in which we're already about 40 or 50 participants throughout Latin America, in which we discuss NVDA experiences, answer questions etc. So it's all of us's job to in our countries and/or areas, continue spreading by example, all that NVDA has to offer in our path towards integration with the sighted computer users. Graet work! and may 2018 bring inspiration for you guys in implementing features, and for us in suggestions, and mainly to continue spreading the benefits of NVDA.


El 12/12/2017 a las 09:09 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria escribió:

Hi, Quentin,

 

I'd like to thank you and everyone at NV Access for everything you've done to make NVDA the great screen reader that it is today. I've really enjoyed reading the blogs for this year and look forward to reading them again in 2018.

 

Rosemarie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] In-Process 13th December 2017

 

Hi everyone,

 

Well it's that time of year, the last In-Process blog for the year!  Here it is:

 

 

Thanks for being so supportive and enthusiastic of the blog this year.  It's been fun and I look forward to bringing it to you again regularly in 2018!

 

Quentin.

 

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Re: Avast and accessibility

Angela Delicata
 

Yes, for me it is better because at least I was able to remove it myself with no sighted help, but it is not so accessible anyway: I would not suggest it to anyone.

Il 13/12/2017 14:42, Dan Beaver ha scritto:
Hi,


I know I have seen this discussed before but didn't need to follow the thread at
that time.


How accessible is Avast? Is it better than AVG or not?


Thanks.


Dan beaver


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Avast and accessibility

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,


I know I have seen this discussed before but didn't need to follow the thread at that time.


How accessible is Avast?  Is it better than AVG or not?


Thanks.


Dan beaver


Re: In-Process 13th December 2017

Iván Novegil
 

I hope that in a few years time we have a Spanish-speaking country in the top of countries with users of NVDA. You've created the WhatsApp group, we're editing articles in Spanish about NVDA creating a big central information point and other people is contributing to the NVDA's expansion. Finally, some important persons of the international NVDA community speak Spanish as their main language. And it's really great and is helping us to grow up.


Regards.

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O 13/12/2017 á(s) 11:37, Gerardo Corripio escribiu:

Indeed! Thanks for all you guys do at NVAccess! You're definitely changing lives thorughout Mexico and Latin America, in having a viable alternative than the regularly-used Jaws, especially because of Jaws being so expensive, thus with NVDA you're reopening doors for so many blind people who otherwise wouldn't have been able to use computers. Also over at Ciberaprendiendo (the Blindness tech podcast over at www.eiberoamerica.com) I'm doing my promoting of NVDA via podcasts episodes dedicated to it, hoping that even more resistant users of the Shark, might take the plunge and switch. And lastly, my promoting NVDA has brought me to create a Whatsapp Spanish group "NVDA Access para Todos" in which we're already about 40 or 50 participants throughout Latin America, in which we discuss NVDA experiences, answer questions etc. So it's all of us's job to in our countries and/or areas, continue spreading by example, all that NVDA has to offer in our path towards integration with the sighted computer users. Graet work! and may 2018 bring inspiration for you guys in implementing features, and for us in suggestions, and mainly to continue spreading the benefits of NVDA.


El 12/12/2017 a las 09:09 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria escribió:

Hi, Quentin,

 

I'd like to thank you and everyone at NV Access for everything you've done to make NVDA the great screen reader that it is today. I've really enjoyed reading the blogs for this year and look forward to reading them again in 2018.

 

Rosemarie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] In-Process 13th December 2017

 

Hi everyone,

 

Well it's that time of year, the last In-Process blog for the year!  Here it is:

 

 

Thanks for being so supportive and enthusiastic of the blog this year.  It's been fun and I look forward to bringing it to you again regularly in 2018!

 

Quentin.

 

--

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Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
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Re: In-Process 13th December 2017

Gerardo Corripio
 

Indeed! Thanks for all you guys do at NVAccess! You're definitely changing lives thorughout Mexico and Latin America, in having a viable alternative than the regularly-used Jaws, especially because of Jaws being so expensive, thus with NVDA you're reopening doors for so many blind people who otherwise wouldn't have been able to use computers. Also over at Ciberaprendiendo (the Blindness tech podcast over at www.eiberoamerica.com) I'm doing my promoting of NVDA via podcasts episodes dedicated to it, hoping that even more resistant users of the Shark, might take the plunge and switch. And lastly, my promoting NVDA has brought me to create a Whatsapp Spanish group "NVDA Access para Todos" in which we're already about 40 or 50 participants throughout Latin America, in which we discuss NVDA experiences, answer questions etc. So it's all of us's job to in our countries and/or areas, continue spreading by example, all that NVDA has to offer in our path towards integration with the sighted computer users. Graet work! and may 2018 bring inspiration for you guys in implementing features, and for us in suggestions, and mainly to continue spreading the benefits of NVDA.


El 12/12/2017 a las 09:09 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria escribió:

Hi, Quentin,

 

I'd like to thank you and everyone at NV Access for everything you've done to make NVDA the great screen reader that it is today. I've really enjoyed reading the blogs for this year and look forward to reading them again in 2018.

 

Rosemarie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] In-Process 13th December 2017

 

Hi everyone,

 

Well it's that time of year, the last In-Process blog for the year!  Here it is:

 

 

Thanks for being so supportive and enthusiastic of the blog this year.  It's been fun and I look forward to bringing it to you again regularly in 2018!

 

Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
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Re: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

Angela Delicata
 

God bless nvda devs: merry christmas to all.

Angela from Italy

Il 13/12/2017 00:59, David Moore ha scritto:
Hi Gene NZ!
Thanks so much for what you do for us!
God bless!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

Hi guys

Pages recently updated
Recently updated: Added links to NVDA Guides on all NVDA related pages

New: Added a tutorial How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with the NVDA screen reader by Hareth  and co to the NVDA audio tutorials page under the troubleshooting section http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html Added a tutorial (by Gene Asner) called Navigating ribbons in WordPad (to the NVDA tutorials learning the basics page) http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20learning%20the%20basics.html Added a tutorial called Using the Ribbon interface in Windows via the keyboard (by Brian Vogel) to the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page. http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html

Gene NZ


Re: In-Process 13th December 2017

Adriani Botez
 

Dear all, dear Quentin,

First, huge thanks for your great work and for maintaining and improving this project continuously.

At the same time, I really hope that nv access is aware of the growing social responsibility of this project for more and more blind and visually impaired people worldwide. The more users, the more feedback and the more likely that expectations to NVDA will increase. Not only with respect to fast improvement, but also regarding professionality and usability. I hope NV Access is aware of the huge development impact of this project and finally, I hope NV Access will not colaps under this pressure. I am sure there is a future plan for this aspect.

With respect to financing, dfis like DEG, Proparco, FMO, american developing bank, african developing bank etc. are most probably willing to sponsor and donate for this project. In case of DEG, I am 100% sure it would provide sponsoring.
 

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Am 13.12.2017 um 03:57 schrieb Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>:

Hi everyone,

Well it's that time of year, the last In-Process blog for the year!  Here it is:


Thanks for being so supportive and enthusiastic of the blog this year.  It's been fun and I look forward to bringing it to you again regularly in 2018!

Quentin.

--
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Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: removing avg

 

Which is really sad.

I want to be as secure as fort nox just like the next guy, but I don't want to be dictated to, have non accessible systems, have a screwed up box because of it, have no control bar a reformat, etc, etc, etc.

Now msse, crappy security but I can control it.

Why can I control crap software but not good software.

I don't understand at all.

And its  why I am never going to use good security software even if it is accessible because I have done that to many times and then boom its changed without reason and bang back down I go.

As a result I no longer trust any security software previder with my life.

They don't serve me, so I don't serve them.

A reformat fixes everything, they make it impossible for me to use their interface and thats where we are.

On 12/12/2017 6:26 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Being fair, its actually not so bad, but if you cannot control it due to its inaccessibility then its really not for blind people.
I still find it astounding that so many pieces of software in mass use just do not consider blind users. as an aging population more and more computer users of today will as they age lose their sight and expect to be able to use their software, but it seems that  it s just not happening.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Delicata" <angeladelicata@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] removing avg


unfortunately, i think this will be the case for me as well because it seems like a cancer on my pc, it won't remove: it has taken control over my emails too: really garbage software.

thank you again for your kind replies.

Ciao!

Angela from Italy




Il 11/12/2017 12:54, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Good morning,

For what it is worth,

I had trouble removing avg as well and had to get sighted help.






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Re: nvda volume

Robert Mendoza
 

To setup your synth setting for volume, pressing control plus caps lock plus right arrow keys. till you heard of Volume. And to increase press up arrow keys, or down arrow key to decrease the volume you desire.

Robert Mendoza
On 12/13/2017 3:00 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Hi,

 

What is the key combo to increase or decrease volume   without using the nvda menu?

Thanks,

Monte



Re: removing avg

 

You know as long as you allowed something like tolque or the nvda controler dll in your program you could tell nvda what to say without an addon, teamtalk does this well enough.

On 12/12/2017 6:19 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yup, a friend of mine says the core part of it is protected so well that screenreaders cannot actually get at the controls or menus.
Increasingly, anti virus makers are doing this, probably for legitimate reasons of stopping them getting hacked but nobody seems to have thought about us. Surely a simple self voicing uninstaller using the built in Microsoft voice would be all that was needed.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 11:54 AM
Subject: [nvda] removing avg


Good morning,

For what it is worth,

I had trouble removing avg as well and had to get sighted help.







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Re: Survey: Preferred Help Format

 

It depends on what you want.

1.  htm, its the easiest system to handle.

You can use it in any browser app.

2.  chm, well its searchable, you can use something like 7zip to extract the html out of that.

Pdf.

I havn't  really used this format, I have converted that to text files and read it like that.

Html would be my prefered option over all as you can get access to it any way you wish.

Chm is basically html but in a treeview I guess it could work.

I have used pdf manuals but its much easier to have html.

Saying that if its all online for something then thats fine to.

Word documents are good, text files can be a bit long winded but can also be good.

On 12/12/2017 3:44 a.m., tonea.ctr.morrow@faa.gov wrote:
My team hasn't told me which help format we will be using for the online help. So, I thought I'd ask a little survey:

Which online help system do you prefer to use and a brief why, a.k.a. does one grant you more opportunities than another or is one more difficult with which to make a screen reader work?:

A) Win Help (chm): old-style windows help system with a content tree on the left, a large pane containing information filling the right and center areas, and a header across the top with forward, backward type buttons.

B) HTML Help: the design is similar to Win Help, but the whole thing runs in a web browser-whichever one is your default browswer.

C) PDF - Portable Document Format with proper tags.


nvda volume

Monte Single
 

Hi,

 

What is the key combo to increase or decrease volume   without using the nvda menu?

Thanks,

Monte


Re: Error when selecting Download voices from NVDA Vocalizer menu

 

Are you sure things are just only your computer.

Try it on another, and or try it on another computer somewhere else.

Sometimes sites just screw up totally.

You can try restarting your box.

Ofcause if that happens to much, its probably your network.

Do search for cmd or comand prompt

use shift control enter to get admin rights, say yes.

then do ipconfig /flushdns

then exit.

Its saved me from restarting, you log back in and if it works then your net is out of sync with the network.

I have found this happens from time to time and have no idea why it does.

On 12/12/2017 2:49 a.m., Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Am I the only one, that when activating the download Extra voices from THE NVDA Vocalizer menu that one gets when installing and activating the NVDA Vocalizer voice package, I get an error page? Hopefully this can be fixed in an update, because it'd save time in wanting to browse to see what other voices there are, especially trying the Premium ones.


Re: nvda unresponsiveness

 

Yeah, ms office, a few wild tangent games and mcafee, why they insist on that is really beyond me.

When I get my gaming laptop, I am seriously going to outright ask for a driver disk, and a stright out win10 disk and see what they do, or an image without the demos and crap on it, I'll even pay a little extra for it not being included.

Heck, I don't need their recovery image, win10 talks now so as long as I can get their site working and all the serials and things I can make it all work enough!

Then again, a lot of the software that toshiba and hp have are usually usefull.

Sadly their support app is inacurate its good to copy product info off but thats it sadly.

I do think though that there needs to be some program or batch written to fix these dll issues though.

On 11/12/2017 11:17 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes indeed HP laptops if purchased from one of the big stores nearly always come with clutter. They have lots of junk, erm useful demos of expensive software on them and the first job really is to look at what is on there and remove all the unwanted stuff. However do be careful with demos of Microsoft Offiice as  uninstalling these has a history of screwing up the registry for screenreader users.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda unresponsiveness


At this point, we don't know enough to form proper opinions or conclusions. One thing that should be checked is whether something is using more processor power than it should.  I don't recall what version of Windows you are running but once you tell us, people can tell you how to see how much processor power is being used by everything on your system in total.  If the number is excessively high, we can start looking at the amount of power individual programs use.  This problem may be the result of something using a lot of computer resources and whatever it is may be able to be removed or stopped if it isn't needed.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Marisane Moruthanyana
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 12:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda unresponsiveness


Hi Kevin

I often use internet explorer as my browser.

Yes, I sometimes use firefox, but the problem is the same.

Although I am not 100% sure, I would like to conclude that the problem
is caused by the type of processor and the speed on my machine.

Why, because on my other laptop which use intel (R(core(tm)I4 with 4GB
memory, nvda respons very well without this problem.

My new HP laptop which gives me this problem use intel (r) seleron
processor at the speed of 1.6 GHZ.

Hope you understand.

Marisane

On 12/10/17, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
<the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I only see this using firefox sometimes when arrowing down a page it
stops talking and you just have to wait I have the latest Sr of ff sorry
not sure what the latest Sr is but I got an update yesterday for the Esr
sorry I have said Sr it should have been Esr sorry.

On 10/12/2017 12:17, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Might you have too many AddOns installed? Try running NVDA without the
AddOns: For this, NVDA+qq, and a dialogue should come up asking you what
you want to do; among these options is Start NVDA without AddOns. See if
this helps, to see if maybe it's an AddOn taht's causing this slowness?


El 10/12/2017 a las 03:11 a.m., Marisane Moruthanyana escribió:
Morning nvda users

I am Marisane from SA.

I have, for sometime now, been looking for your assistance regarding
nvda unresponsiveness but to no avail.

I have recently upgraded to nvda 2017.4, but the unresponsiveness
still persists.

May I know whether this may be due to my laptop's using intel seleron
processor at a speed of less than 2ghz?

Does the processor type and its speed have any impact on nvda's
functionality / dysfunctionality?

What processor and speed should one take into account when buying a
laptop so that nvda may respond positively?

I am frustrated, because this happens only with nvda and not with jaws.

I use jaws demo as I have no licence for it to do some work on my PC,
but it responds very well that I do not have the same problems as
those with nvda.

If the processor type and its speed are the cause of nvda'
unresponsiveness, why only it and not other screen reader like jaws?

Your urgent assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.

Please, please, please help, I am getting frustrated everyday.

I solely rely on nvda as my jaws is only 40 minutes.

Hope you understand.

Regards
Marisane









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Re: Avg was Re: [nvda] malware bites question

 

To be honest thats why I like.

1.  a pc with a data drive as well as a system drive.

2.  backups.

I have had security programs muck me about.

But thats not a problem, all my data is double backed up on spining drives, the important stuff is on solid state drives and the cloud.

If something screws up, just reformat and don't do it again.

A reformat always fixes it.

I know it will take me about 2 days to install and several days to reconfigure things.

Sadly I do not have a 2 drive system, the next powerbox I get will have one even though the weight will be more.

My dad and brother both have this system.

That technically means that if I have a place to store configs of things, and my data, if it screws up, in theory I can cut the restore time in half.

It may take you days to resolve the issue.

It may take a week or 2 to fully restore but at least you know where you go.

I use msse, and malwarebytes if something stupid goes up at me.

I do have ublock and noscript 5x on my side, still sore about what mozilla did to firefox and web extentions, it appears they don't care about accessibility anymore.

Its not spread to thunderbird yet and I have waterfox, that at least runs.

And thats all I care about.

I know thats selfish but I have been there and done that.

Avg was good once.

But then norton was darn good bar a few niggles from 1995-2003, after that it went downhill.

Which was just sad, I still respect old nav, ndd, norton speed, and windoctor for their ease of use.

Its all gone baa humbug!


Now we must use crap software just to use our systems and not even then is it always safe to use your programs even with that but at least you can control it.

If you switch to something better there is no garantee that it will stay that way.

Now I want to be protected.

Its just I really don't want to worry about program x suddenly being marked as bad even though it was good for ages.

I don't need to reformat every couple weeks because things get deleted.

I don't want to search for things or check things were working and I really don't care about babysitting.

In the early days I did that.

For whatever reason when I was 10 years yunger I enjoyed that.

Not so much now.

When msse first came out I realised how much time I was wasting.

I havn't found anything to compair, not that win defender is safe, false alarms on a lot of blind games and programs not as much as other software but still means I have to keep watch.

Even so I can still use  my computer most of the time.

On 11/12/2017 11:09 p.m., Angela Delicata wrote:
Hi,

I tried  avg remover, but it is impossible to use  with screen readers.

So, in the end, I suppose i have to wait till some sighted helps me.

thank you anyway and if you ave more suggestions they will be very welcome.

ciao!



Il 11/12/2017 10:42, Ian Blackburn ha scritto:
If it’s like a vast then you need to use a clear program from the website completely in accessible

The vast clear program makes the computer boot up into a special Mode that you must use the mouse to operate that will clear your avast

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On 11 Dec 2017, at 5:40 pm, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Is Avg a 64 bit install? if not then the old version of Revo will do it or always used to.
I'd have thought that their site would give some kind of help on removal but it may well involve the sighted. The problem is as they now seem to belong to the same outfit as Avast they are probably prohibiting screenreaders from hooking in to their code as well.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Delicata" <angeladelicata@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question


Hi,

Please excuse me if the question is not close related to nvda, but as you are talking about antivirus program, I thought I would try to ask,

I installed avg antivirus, but as it is not so accessible, I would like to remove it completely. it is impossible to do so because it seems it has some problems removing itself.

does any one know how to do? If you can, please help me.

Even after installing Windows 10 avg is still here!
I really have no idea on how to handle it.
Thank you in advance.
Ciao.
Angela from Italy

Il 11/12/2017 02:05, Gary Metzler ha scritto:
Hi Anthony,

The threat is from bible seeker. I hope this helps.

-----Original Message----- From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] malware bites question

What problem did it report?

Without knowing what the "threat" is, we can't usefully advise on what to do
about it.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 December 2017 at 17:39:02, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I ran the free trial of malware bites and it found a threat. How do I
delete it? I am using the latest windows and nvda. Thanks for any
help.Regards, Gary kn4ox sendto: gmtravel@comcast.net







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