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Re: Screen Shade/curtain?

Arlene
 

Mine too. If you have a laptop. Then put a piece of paper on the screen. I'm
glad that Voiceover has Screen curtain. Jaws has Screen shade. As this
person who's name I cant spell. Said that Jaws comes with too many Bells and
wistles. They never get rid of all their bugs. They do their best. However,
I tested Jaws 5.0 and some of the users said that they put in too many bells
and wistles but not fix the bugs and the users pay a high price that's out
of reach for some people. NVDA rocks! If you want Screen shade, then get
Jaws 18. If you want Screen curtain. Then get an Apple product with
voiceover. At least with Apple you pay a high price. But you don't pay for
voiceover.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December-19-17 7:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Shade/curtain?

I don't need screen shade either. My monitor is off.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 3:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Shade/curtain?

I don't need either. Screen Shade or curtain. I just leave the monitor off.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: December-18-17 2:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Shade/curtain?

If all Screen shading does is blackout your screen, I don't know if it'd be
something NVDA should incorporate.
I'd rather see something more useful than an addon that just blacks out the
screen.
I understand the privacy argument, but that's only going to be useful for
laptops and tablets. With a desktop, you can leave the monitor off and still
use the computer.
As a previous user stated, it really depends what NVDA's game plan is.
If they're trying to compete with the other screen readers, then they'll
need to add screen shading.
If they do incorporate it into the main screen reader, I'd suggest adding a
bunch of other new and useful features along with it.
Chris


Re: Welcome to NVDA 2018: production under way

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Joseph,
Thank you for taking this up. I was a beneficiary of the 2015 edition
of your audio tutorial series, and am therefore confident that this
updated iteration too shall prove useful for many newbies.
Thanks.

On 12/20/17, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
i sincerely appreciate you and request divine infinite mercy and
blessings for you.

On 12/20/17, Curtis Delzer <curtis@calweb.com> wrote:
AND, HEY, ALL CAPS SAYS I SECOND THIS! All the wonderful work you do is
always top notch and fully appreciated by anyone who takes the time to
really learn.


On 12/19/2017 3:56 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Joseph,

I'm looking forward to listening to the new tutorial once it's
completed. Thank you for doing this for us.

Rosemarie

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Lee
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 19, 2017 2:40 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: production under way

Dear NVDA community,

A few weeks ago I asked on the NVDA users list if I should record an
updated version of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorial series, and
everyone said “yes”. Thus, I’m happy to announce that production of
2018 edition of this tutorial series is under way. Due to a completely
new synthesizer to be used, coupled with use of Microsoft Edge for
various web browsing examples, I’m recording most sections anew. I’m
also redoing most recordings to make the sound quality consistent
throughout the tutorial set, as the 2013 and 2015 editions had varying
audio quality.

Changes in the 2018 edition (part 1 is completed and waiting to be
assembled soon):

* Overall: use of Windows oneCore synthesizer. Due to popular
request, each topic will be an mp3 file of its own.
* Introduction (part 1): the new checkbox that offers to start the
portable copy when created is covered, along with restart with
debug logging option. Due to time constraints, new command line
options are not covered (they’ll be covered in an addendum).
* Basics (part 2): the newly expanded welcome dialog will be
covered. Apart from that, there’s nothing new in 2018 edition.
* Objects (part 3): stays the same except for new speech synthesizer.
* Web browsing (part 4): most examples will use Firefox and Edge,
with one or two requiring use of Internet Explorer. A new section
on MathML reading will be covered.
* Apps (part 5): Some replacements and new apps. In Microsoft Word
section, I’ll briefly demonstrate braille input support.
* Configuration (parts 6 and 7): Windows 10 OCR will be mentioned
but will not be covered, and a host of changes will be done thanks
to new and revised options in NVDA.
* Tools (part 8): Windows 10 OCR will be covered last.
* Add-ons (part 9): instead of OCR add-on, Golden Cursor will be
covered. Also, how to disable individual add-ons will be shown.
* Possible addenda: command-line switches, NVDA on Windows 10 on ARM.

For the most part, content should be identical to the 2015 edition.
The current edition of the tutorial set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org



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Re: Screen Shade/curtain?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I don't need screen shade either. My monitor is off.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 3:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Shade/curtain?

I don't need either. Screen Shade or curtain. I just leave the monitor off.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: December-18-17 2:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Shade/curtain?

If all Screen shading does is blackout your screen, I don't know if it'd be
something NVDA should incorporate.
I'd rather see something more useful than an addon that just blacks out the
screen.
I understand the privacy argument, but that's only going to be useful for
laptops and tablets. With a desktop, you can leave the monitor off and still
use the computer.
As a previous user stated, it really depends what NVDA's game plan is.
If they're trying to compete with the other screen readers, then they'll
need to add screen shading.
If they do incorporate it into the main screen reader, I'd suggest adding a
bunch of other new and useful features along with it.
Chris


Re: season greetings

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Merry Christmas to everyone on list. May 2018 be a better year for us all.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] season greetings

 

Wishing everybody the same. Merry Christmas and a happy new year.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony borg
Sent: December-18-17 5:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] season greetings

 

Wishing all list members a very merry Christmas and all the best for 2018.

Best regards

Anthony


Re: Welcome to NVDA 2018: production under way

 

i sincerely appreciate you and request divine infinite mercy and
blessings for you.

On 12/20/17, Curtis Delzer <curtis@calweb.com> wrote:
AND, HEY, ALL CAPS SAYS I SECOND THIS! All the wonderful work you do is
always top notch and fully appreciated by anyone who takes the time to
really learn.


On 12/19/2017 3:56 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Joseph,

I'm looking forward to listening to the new tutorial once it's
completed. Thank you for doing this for us.

Rosemarie

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Lee
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 19, 2017 2:40 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: production under way

Dear NVDA community,

A few weeks ago I asked on the NVDA users list if I should record an
updated version of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorial series, and
everyone said “yes”. Thus, I’m happy to announce that production of
2018 edition of this tutorial series is under way. Due to a completely
new synthesizer to be used, coupled with use of Microsoft Edge for
various web browsing examples, I’m recording most sections anew. I’m
also redoing most recordings to make the sound quality consistent
throughout the tutorial set, as the 2013 and 2015 editions had varying
audio quality.

Changes in the 2018 edition (part 1 is completed and waiting to be
assembled soon):

* Overall: use of Windows oneCore synthesizer. Due to popular
request, each topic will be an mp3 file of its own.
* Introduction (part 1): the new checkbox that offers to start the
portable copy when created is covered, along with restart with
debug logging option. Due to time constraints, new command line
options are not covered (they’ll be covered in an addendum).
* Basics (part 2): the newly expanded welcome dialog will be
covered. Apart from that, there’s nothing new in 2018 edition.
* Objects (part 3): stays the same except for new speech synthesizer.
* Web browsing (part 4): most examples will use Firefox and Edge,
with one or two requiring use of Internet Explorer. A new section
on MathML reading will be covered.
* Apps (part 5): Some replacements and new apps. In Microsoft Word
section, I’ll briefly demonstrate braille input support.
* Configuration (parts 6 and 7): Windows 10 OCR will be mentioned
but will not be covered, and a host of changes will be done thanks
to new and revised options in NVDA.
* Tools (part 8): Windows 10 OCR will be covered last.
* Add-ons (part 9): instead of OCR add-on, Golden Cursor will be
covered. Also, how to disable individual add-ons will be shown.
* Possible addenda: command-line switches, NVDA on Windows 10 on ARM.

For the most part, content should be identical to the 2015 edition.
The current edition of the tutorial set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: NVDA and Firefox automatic page refreshing

 

hi.
the best way is disabling javascript.
just type in address bar about:config
then press enter and press enter again to confirm the prompt.
then type in the search box java and press enter on javascript.enabled
to make it false.
you can do the above steps to make it true whenever you need it.
this is my way whome dont like installing any addons in my firefox.
but i read that install some addons to have more control for this.
hope that help, God bless you all!

On 12/19/17, Pascal Lambert <rambeau68@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,
Please, is there a way to preventing pages from refreshing automatically in
Firefox?
Many thanks
Season's blessings to all.
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 1:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] moving configuration

Well assuming the other computer is the same, ie it has any synths and other
bits and pieces the same you should do this.
Some may say this is over the top, but sometimes portable copies can be a
bit annoying.
1 make a portable copy on a ram drive.
2 download the exact version you have from the web site.
Firstly, install it clean from the web site. Don't worry about the config
being wrong.
Make sure the important bits like menus and all that stuff work in nvda.

Now insert your ram drive with your configured version on it. Go to it,
position yourself on the exe file, then terminate the running copy and run
the portable. When you get in navigate to the install option as you would,
and install over the top of the one you just installed, take the option to
keep the shrotcut and copy the existing config.
When its done and restarted and you check it works. Go to the general menu
and use the save the current config so you get the log in parameters the
same as the normal ones.
Hopefully that should then work assuming all the specs are the same. You
will of cours need to configure windows how you like it as well.


I do it that way as sometimes, possible copies on windows 10 misbehave if
they are the first copy you use.
I have no idea why this happens, so don't ask!

Brian

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briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 4:13 PM
Subject: [nvda] moving configuration


OK I have NVDA all set up on my main computer just right for me. I want
the same configuration on my secondary computer. Is there a way to move
the saved configuration to another computer?
Thanks










--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: screen shade

enes sarıbaş
 

and have the guy wrip it off.


On 12/19/2017 3:08 AM, Arlene wrote:

That’s what I say. If you have a laptop. Just put a piece of papar over the screen.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: December-18-17 4:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] screen shade

 

Instead of screen shade. Get a black piece of paper and put it over your screen. And voila, nobody can see your screen at all.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



Re: Welcome to NVDA 2018: production under way

Curtis Delzer
 

AND, HEY, ALL CAPS SAYS I SECOND THIS! All the wonderful work you do is always top notch and fully appreciated by anyone who takes the time to really learn.


On 12/19/2017 3:56 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm looking forward to listening to the new tutorial once it's completed. Thank you for doing this for us.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 2:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: production under way

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

A few weeks ago I asked on the NVDA users list if I should record an updated version of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorial series, and everyone said “yes”. Thus, I’m happy to announce that production of 2018 edition of this tutorial series is under way. Due to a completely new synthesizer to be used, coupled with use of Microsoft Edge for various web browsing examples, I’m recording most sections anew. I’m also redoing most recordings to make the sound quality consistent throughout the tutorial set, as the 2013 and 2015 editions had varying audio quality.

 

Changes in the 2018 edition (part 1 is completed and waiting to be assembled soon):

  • Overall: use of Windows oneCore synthesizer. Due to popular request, each topic will be an mp3 file of its own.
  • Introduction (part 1): the new checkbox that offers to start the portable copy when created is covered, along with restart with debug logging option. Due to time constraints, new command line options are not covered (they’ll be covered in an addendum).
  • Basics (part 2): the newly expanded welcome dialog will be covered. Apart from that, there’s nothing new in 2018 edition.
  • Objects (part 3): stays the same except for new speech synthesizer.
  • Web browsing (part 4): most examples will use Firefox and Edge, with one or two requiring use of Internet Explorer. A new section on MathML reading will be covered.
  • Apps (part 5): Some replacements and new apps. In Microsoft Word section, I’ll briefly demonstrate braille input support.
  • Configuration (parts 6 and 7): Windows 10 OCR will be mentioned but will not be covered, and a host of changes will be done thanks to new and revised options in NVDA.
  • Tools (part 8): Windows 10 OCR will be covered last.
  • Add-ons (part 9): instead of OCR add-on, Golden Cursor will be covered. Also, how to disable individual add-ons will be shown.
  • Possible addenda: command-line switches, NVDA on Windows 10 on ARM.

 

For the most part, content should be identical to the 2015 edition. The current edition of the tutorial set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph



Re: screen shade

enes sarıbaş
 

that is why you should watch your porn with headphones. Lol there is a video of a college student turning on some porn in class and forgetting to plug in headphones.


On 12/19/2017 3:44 AM, Karim Lakhani wrote:
I'm concerned how many things you all do on your computers, that you don't want any buddy to look at.
How many hours in a day do you write this kind of personal data which is something you want to hide?
I think looking at porn is real high usage because they can see the screen, it stops no one from using these acts.
With sound a porn sight with audio would require head phones don't you think?
I love the audio ducking in NVDA, because you can accomplish so much while using the computer and then when it's just stream the sound is at the sound you want.
Marry Christmas and a happy new year.
 
I worked at a company where co - workers who are sighted and didn't work directly in my group, but because I kept my screen off, and wore head phones they didn't think I was working.
But I didn't let the matter go, if my eyes are getting bothered from the light on the monitor it was a great move.In stead of waiting for someone to write code to prevent this matter.
 
Hope not all of us have to continuously write letters which no one else should write.
good night!
 
 
 
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SKYPE: goldenace4
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Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
can control is your character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-)
 
 
 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 4:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] screen shade

Ok about the screen shade. Why do blind people need a screen shade? And why do sighted people they don’t need a screen shade? So why is it good for blind to have screen shade but not sighted? Oh and if I were a sighted person and you had a screen shade on, I would just pick up my smart phone and do some research and could figure out how to turn it off anyway. And what if the keyboard command for turning it on and off were spread on facebook and twitter? Now anybody can just come by your computer ;and turn the screen shade off. Or  someone could just hack the computer and use it screen shade or no shade, without even caring screen shade is on or off. Don’t know why you want screen shade, but if it is for privacy? Forget it. If I had a blind son and I were a sighted parent and caught my blind son having a screen shade, I would suspect he’s doing or reading stuff he should not. Guess what? I take the computer or phone away from him for a week or so. He gets punished for using screen shade.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



Re: screen shade

enes sarıbaş
 

that is silly, to be honest. Should I broadcast everything I do online to the world? Also, the argument that I most be doing something illegal if I am using privacy features is logically flawed.


On 12/19/2017 2:31 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Ok about the screen shade. Why do blind people need a screen shade? And why do sighted people they don’t need a screen shade? So why is it good for blind to have screen shade but not sighted? Oh and if I were a sighted person and you had a screen shade on, I would just pick up my smart phone and do some research and could figure out how to turn it off anyway. And what if the keyboard command for turning it on and off were spread on facebook and twitter? Now anybody can just come by your computer ;and turn the screen shade off. Or  someone could just hack the computer and use it screen shade or no shade, without even caring screen shade is on or off. Don’t know why you want screen shade, but if it is for privacy? Forget it. If I had a blind son and I were a sighted parent and caught my blind son having a screen shade, I would suspect he’s doing or reading stuff he should not. Guess what? I take the computer or phone away from him for a week or so. He gets punished for using screen shade.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



Re: Welcome to NVDA 2018: production under way

Arlene
 

I’m looking forward to the new NVDA. It rocks! Thanks for all your good work.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December-19-17 3:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: production under way

 

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm looking forward to listening to the new tutorial once it's completed. Thank you for doing this for us.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 2:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: production under way

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

A few weeks ago I asked on the NVDA users list if I should record an updated version of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorial series, and everyone said “yes”. Thus, I’m happy to announce that production of 2018 edition of this tutorial series is under way. Due to a completely new synthesizer to be used, coupled with use of Microsoft Edge for various web browsing examples, I’m recording most sections anew. I’m also redoing most recordings to make the sound quality consistent throughout the tutorial set, as the 2013 and 2015 editions had varying audio quality.

 

Changes in the 2018 edition (part 1 is completed and waiting to be assembled soon):

  • Overall: use of Windows oneCore synthesizer. Due to popular request, each topic will be an mp3 file of its own.
  • Introduction (part 1): the new checkbox that offers to start the portable copy when created is covered, along with restart with debug logging option. Due to time constraints, new command line options are not covered (they’ll be covered in an addendum).
  • Basics (part 2): the newly expanded welcome dialog will be covered. Apart from that, there’s nothing new in 2018 edition.
  • Objects (part 3): stays the same except for new speech synthesizer.
  • Web browsing (part 4): most examples will use Firefox and Edge, with one or two requiring use of Internet Explorer. A new section on MathML reading will be covered.
  • Apps (part 5): Some replacements and new apps. In Microsoft Word section, I’ll briefly demonstrate braille input support.
  • Configuration (parts 6 and 7): Windows 10 OCR will be mentioned but will not be covered, and a host of changes will be done thanks to new and revised options in NVDA.
  • Tools (part 8): Windows 10 OCR will be covered last.
  • Add-ons (part 9): instead of OCR add-on, Golden Cursor will be covered. Also, how to disable individual add-ons will be shown.
  • Possible addenda: command-line switches, NVDA on Windows 10 on ARM.

 

For the most part, content should be identical to the 2015 edition. The current edition of the tutorial set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: screen shade

Pranav Lal
 

Ely,

 

I have the same problem with Jean’s messages.


Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 6:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] screen shade

 

Jean in New Zealand and the group in general,

This is the strangest thing I have seen in email. Using Outlook 2016/365, Windows 10 and Newest NVDA, every time I try to open a message from Jean, outlook goes belly up. Sometimes it will do a self-restart, other times I have to start it. Now it could be that Jean’s messages are simply upside down given where they are originating. I have tried turning my monitor and my tower upside down to accommodate, but no luck! Seriously, the event is real, and I don’t get any sort of warning or error message. Has anyone out there seen this? If so, please let me know if you found a fix.

Apologies Jean and thanks anyone,

Rick

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 1:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] screen shade

 

I agree with you.

I have not seen a sighted person use a device with the screen off on any device.

You ask any sighted person to use the computer with say sound and only the screen reader and the screen turned off and they are lost.

I my self would not even do any type of banking or sensitive stuff on a public computer just because of security I would want to hope it was really locked down.
And that would be even with a blacked out screen.
I would still not go there on public terminal.
 
Been in a home situation I would not have a need for it who is going to look my wife? or may be people just do not want people to know they could be looking at one of those .aughty websites.

  At home off goes the button on the monitor and then the wife if she wants it just turns it on.


Gene nz

On 12/19/2017 2:03 AM, ely.r@... wrote:

Good idea!

I have to wonder what people are writing on their computers in what I assume is a public area that they do not want others to see. If someone has full vision, one would assume that they have their screen turned on so they can both read and write. If so, then it is likely that they will not be writing highly sensitive things that others might see as they walk by. Sorry if this seems insensitive, but. . .

Rick

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 7:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] screen shade

 

Instead of screen shade. Get a black piece of paper and put it over your screen. And voila, nobody can see your screen at all.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Welcome to NVDA 2018: production under way

Adriani Botez
 

Thank you Joseph for your great work.

Best
Adriani


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 20.12.2017 um 00:56 schrieb Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...>:

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm looking forward to listening to the new tutorial once it's completed. Thank you for doing this for us.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 2:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: production under way

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

A few weeks ago I asked on the NVDA users list if I should record an updated version of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorial series, and everyone said “yes”. Thus, I’m happy to announce that production of 2018 edition of this tutorial series is under way. Due to a completely new synthesizer to be used, coupled with use of Microsoft Edge for various web browsing examples, I’m recording most sections anew. I’m also redoing most recordings to make the sound quality consistent throughout the tutorial set, as the 2013 and 2015 editions had varying audio quality.

 

Changes in the 2018 edition (part 1 is completed and waiting to be assembled soon):

  • Overall: use of Windows oneCore synthesizer. Due to popular request, each topic will be an mp3 file of its own.
  • Introduction (part 1): the new checkbox that offers to start the portable copy when created is covered, along with restart with debug logging option. Due to time constraints, new command line options are not covered (they’ll be covered in an addendum).
  • Basics (part 2): the newly expanded welcome dialog will be covered. Apart from that, there’s nothing new in 2018 edition.
  • Objects (part 3): stays the same except for new speech synthesizer.
  • Web browsing (part 4): most examples will use Firefox and Edge, with one or two requiring use of Internet Explorer. A new section on MathML reading will be covered.
  • Apps (part 5): Some replacements and new apps. In Microsoft Word section, I’ll briefly demonstrate braille input support.
  • Configuration (parts 6 and 7): Windows 10 OCR will be mentioned but will not be covered, and a host of changes will be done thanks to new and revised options in NVDA.
  • Tools (part 8): Windows 10 OCR will be covered last.
  • Add-ons (part 9): instead of OCR add-on, Golden Cursor will be covered. Also, how to disable individual add-ons will be shown.
  • Possible addenda: command-line switches, NVDA on Windows 10 on ARM.

 

For the most part, content should be identical to the 2015 edition. The current edition of the tutorial set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Welcome to NVDA 2018: production under way

Lino Morales
 

I agree button. I'm more intrested in hering the new voice you speak of. Is it a new MS one or some new sexy sounding 3rd party female one LOL! Inquiring minds wanna to know Jo.


On 12/19/2017 6:56 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm looking forward to listening to the new tutorial once it's completed. Thank you for doing this for us.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 2:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: production under way

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

A few weeks ago I asked on the NVDA users list if I should record an updated version of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorial series, and everyone said “yes”. Thus, I’m happy to announce that production of 2018 edition of this tutorial series is under way. Due to a completely new synthesizer to be used, coupled with use of Microsoft Edge for various web browsing examples, I’m recording most sections anew. I’m also redoing most recordings to make the sound quality consistent throughout the tutorial set, as the 2013 and 2015 editions had varying audio quality.

 

Changes in the 2018 edition (part 1 is completed and waiting to be assembled soon):

  • Overall: use of Windows oneCore synthesizer. Due to popular request, each topic will be an mp3 file of its own.
  • Introduction (part 1): the new checkbox that offers to start the portable copy when created is covered, along with restart with debug logging option. Due to time constraints, new command line options are not covered (they’ll be covered in an addendum).
  • Basics (part 2): the newly expanded welcome dialog will be covered. Apart from that, there’s nothing new in 2018 edition.
  • Objects (part 3): stays the same except for new speech synthesizer.
  • Web browsing (part 4): most examples will use Firefox and Edge, with one or two requiring use of Internet Explorer. A new section on MathML reading will be covered.
  • Apps (part 5): Some replacements and new apps. In Microsoft Word section, I’ll briefly demonstrate braille input support.
  • Configuration (parts 6 and 7): Windows 10 OCR will be mentioned but will not be covered, and a host of changes will be done thanks to new and revised options in NVDA.
  • Tools (part 8): Windows 10 OCR will be covered last.
  • Add-ons (part 9): instead of OCR add-on, Golden Cursor will be covered. Also, how to disable individual add-ons will be shown.
  • Possible addenda: command-line switches, NVDA on Windows 10 on ARM.

 

For the most part, content should be identical to the 2015 edition. The current edition of the tutorial set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph



Re: Welcome to NVDA 2018: production under way

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm looking forward to listening to the new tutorial once it's completed. Thank you for doing this for us.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 2:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: production under way

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

A few weeks ago I asked on the NVDA users list if I should record an updated version of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorial series, and everyone said “yes”. Thus, I’m happy to announce that production of 2018 edition of this tutorial series is under way. Due to a completely new synthesizer to be used, coupled with use of Microsoft Edge for various web browsing examples, I’m recording most sections anew. I’m also redoing most recordings to make the sound quality consistent throughout the tutorial set, as the 2013 and 2015 editions had varying audio quality.

 

Changes in the 2018 edition (part 1 is completed and waiting to be assembled soon):

  • Overall: use of Windows oneCore synthesizer. Due to popular request, each topic will be an mp3 file of its own.
  • Introduction (part 1): the new checkbox that offers to start the portable copy when created is covered, along with restart with debug logging option. Due to time constraints, new command line options are not covered (they’ll be covered in an addendum).
  • Basics (part 2): the newly expanded welcome dialog will be covered. Apart from that, there’s nothing new in 2018 edition.
  • Objects (part 3): stays the same except for new speech synthesizer.
  • Web browsing (part 4): most examples will use Firefox and Edge, with one or two requiring use of Internet Explorer. A new section on MathML reading will be covered.
  • Apps (part 5): Some replacements and new apps. In Microsoft Word section, I’ll briefly demonstrate braille input support.
  • Configuration (parts 6 and 7): Windows 10 OCR will be mentioned but will not be covered, and a host of changes will be done thanks to new and revised options in NVDA.
  • Tools (part 8): Windows 10 OCR will be covered last.
  • Add-ons (part 9): instead of OCR add-on, Golden Cursor will be covered. Also, how to disable individual add-ons will be shown.
  • Possible addenda: command-line switches, NVDA on Windows 10 on ARM.

 

For the most part, content should be identical to the 2015 edition. The current edition of the tutorial set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Welcome to NVDA 2018: production under way

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

A few weeks ago I asked on the NVDA users list if I should record an updated version of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorial series, and everyone said “yes”. Thus, I’m happy to announce that production of 2018 edition of this tutorial series is under way. Due to a completely new synthesizer to be used, coupled with use of Microsoft Edge for various web browsing examples, I’m recording most sections anew. I’m also redoing most recordings to make the sound quality consistent throughout the tutorial set, as the 2013 and 2015 editions had varying audio quality.

 

Changes in the 2018 edition (part 1 is completed and waiting to be assembled soon):

  • Overall: use of Windows oneCore synthesizer. Due to popular request, each topic will be an mp3 file of its own.
  • Introduction (part 1): the new checkbox that offers to start the portable copy when created is covered, along with restart with debug logging option. Due to time constraints, new command line options are not covered (they’ll be covered in an addendum).
  • Basics (part 2): the newly expanded welcome dialog will be covered. Apart from that, there’s nothing new in 2018 edition.
  • Objects (part 3): stays the same except for new speech synthesizer.
  • Web browsing (part 4): most examples will use Firefox and Edge, with one or two requiring use of Internet Explorer. A new section on MathML reading will be covered.
  • Apps (part 5): Some replacements and new apps. In Microsoft Word section, I’ll briefly demonstrate braille input support.
  • Configuration (parts 6 and 7): Windows 10 OCR will be mentioned but will not be covered, and a host of changes will be done thanks to new and revised options in NVDA.
  • Tools (part 8): Windows 10 OCR will be covered last.
  • Add-ons (part 9): instead of OCR add-on, Golden Cursor will be covered. Also, how to disable individual add-ons will be shown.
  • Possible addenda: command-line switches, NVDA on Windows 10 on ARM.

 

For the most part, content should be identical to the 2015 edition. The current edition of the tutorial set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: The Dimmer program.

Giles Turnbull
 

no problem, Kevin. You spelled my name perfectly :)


Re: Trying to install NVDA from a portable copy on new Windows 10 computer but can't focus on the NVDA menu

Kevin Cussick
 

so quit nvda and bring it up again, this some times has happened to me and this is what I do.

On 19/12/2017 11:26, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
Right, so my mother was able to open the portable copy of NVDA, and I was in the window where the NVDA Portable folder was. Then I pressed caps-lock+n to open the NVDA menu and it said NVDA menu, but when I scrolled with the arrow keys it was only reading the items in the NVDA Portable folder, and so I couldn't select anything from the NVDA menu. I tried alt+tab but that just landed me in the same window. I tried pressing NVDA+n again, but that didn't work. I can't install from the portable copy if I can't access the NVDA menu.
On 19/12/2017 10:20 PM, Chris wrote:

Hello

I saw your other post, but wasn’t sure what you are trying to achieve?

Are you saying you want to run a portable copy of nvda or you cant run a portable copy?

Or are you wanting to install from a portable copy?

Or cant install it to your computer?

If you can be a bit ore specific that will help, thanks

*From: *Sharni-Lee Ward <mailto:sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com>
*Sent: *19 December 2017 10:33
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Trying to install NVDA from a portable copy on new Windows 10 computer but can't focus on the NVDA menu

Hi,

I got a Windows 10 laptop as an early Christmas present and earlier, I

tried to install NVDA on it from the portable copy I have, but when I

opened the NVDA Menu, focus didn't switch to it. I tried alt+tab in case

that would help, but I always landed on the window with the folder

containing the portable copy. I really wanna start working this computer

out and setting it up to my liking, but I can't do that if I can't even

focus on the window I want to focus on. I've asked on the blind tech

list but nobody's talking yet and I'm scared my post might end up being

ignored because I sent it just as everyone was going to bed.


NVDA and Firefox automatic page refreshing

Pascal Lambert
 

Hi All,
Please, is there a way to preventing pages from refreshing automatically in Firefox?
Many thanks
Season's blessings to all.
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 1:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] moving configuration

Well assuming the other computer is the same, ie it has any synths and other bits and pieces the same you should do this.
Some may say this is over the top, but sometimes portable copies can be a bit annoying.
1 make a portable copy on a ram drive.
2 download the exact version you have from the web site.
Firstly, install it clean from the web site. Don't worry about the config being wrong.
Make sure the important bits like menus and all that stuff work in nvda.

Now insert your ram drive with your configured version on it. Go to it, position yourself on the exe file, then terminate the running copy and run the portable. When you get in navigate to the install option as you would, and install over the top of the one you just installed, take the option to keep the shrotcut and copy the existing config.
When its done and restarted and you check it works. Go to the general menu and use the save the current config so you get the log in parameters the same as the normal ones.
Hopefully that should then work assuming all the specs are the same. You will of cours need to configure windows how you like it as well.


I do it that way as sometimes, possible copies on windows 10 misbehave if they are the first copy you use.
I have no idea why this happens, so don't ask!

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 4:13 PM
Subject: [nvda] moving configuration


OK I have NVDA all set up on my main computer just right for me. I want
the same configuration on my secondary computer. Is there a way to move
the saved configuration to another computer?
Thanks




Re: Trying to install NVDA from a portable copy on new Windows 10 computer but can't focus on the NVDA menu

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

So you got it to work then. Half the issues with portable copies is they do not have the low level access of an installed copy. I generally install a clean copy first from a download and then use the portable version to copy the config over when I'm happy.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trying to install NVDA from a portable copy on new Windows 10 computer but can't focus on the NVDA menu


I'm writing this from the new computer. Things seem to have worked out fine. Although end and home aren't working right now. Maybe they're in a different position on this laptop. Anyways, I'm using the computer and will hopefully get all my stuff in order soon. :)

On 20/12/2017 1:55 AM, Chris wrote:
Maybe the open window has focus, try closing the window and see if that helps any

Or try windows key+D to go to the desktop and see if that is better
Or failing that go to the notification tray windows key+B and see if you can open the nvda menu with the tray icon

Or if that dowsnt work restart nvda and/or the computer

From: Sharni-Lee Ward<mailto:sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com>
Sent: 19 December 2017 14:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trying to install NVDA from a portable copy on new Windows 10 computer but can't focus on the NVDA menu


My portable copy has all my settings and I have caps lock set as the modifier on it. I also tried using the modifier +q to exit, and I know that menu popped up but focus didn't switch to it automatically. My mother and sister could see it but I couldn't.

On 20/12/2017 12:10 AM, Chris wrote:
Is the menu open do you know?
The default nvda modifier is the insert key you can change it to the caps lock keybut that is not the default

So try the insert+N and see what happens then



From: Sharni-Lee Ward<mailto:sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com>
Sent: 19 December 2017 11:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trying to install NVDA from a portable copy on new Windows 10 computer but can't focus on the NVDA menu


Right, so my mother was able to open the portable copy of NVDA, and I was in the window where the NVDA Portable folder was. Then I pressed caps-lock+n to open the NVDA menu and it said NVDA menu, but when I scrolled with the arrow keys it was only reading the items in the NVDA Portable folder, and so I couldn't select anything from the NVDA menu. I tried alt+tab but that just landed me in the same window. I tried pressing NVDA+n again, but that didn't work. I can't install from the portable copy if I can't access the NVDA menu.

On 19/12/2017 10:20 PM, Chris wrote:
Hello

I saw your other post, but wasn’t sure what you are trying to achieve?

Are you saying you want to run a portable copy of nvda or you cant run a portable copy?

Or are you wanting to install from a portable copy?
Or cant install it to your computer?

If you can be a bit ore specific that will help, thanks


From: Sharni-Lee Ward<mailto:sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com>
Sent: 19 December 2017 10:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Trying to install NVDA from a portable copy on new Windows 10 computer but can't focus on the NVDA menu

Hi,


I got a Windows 10 laptop as an early Christmas present and earlier, I
tried to install NVDA on it from the portable copy I have, but when I
opened the NVDA Menu, focus didn't switch to it. I tried alt+tab in case
that would help, but I always landed on the window with the folder
containing the portable copy. I really wanna start working this computer
out and setting it up to my liking, but I can't do that if I can't even
focus on the window I want to focus on. I've asked on the blind tech
list but nobody's talking yet and I'm scared my post might end up being
ignored because I sent it just as everyone was going to bed.