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Re: Nvda sleep. Mode

Gene
 

Are you using an external keyboard? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda sleep. Mode

Hello
Pressing nvda +shift +s, nvda says selected and does not goes to sleep,
I am using a laptop by the way,
Thanks

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On 23 Dec 2017, at 01.27, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

What guide are you referring to?  Do you mean the guide you purchase?  If so, and if you are reporting the command as it exists accurately in the guide, that is the second incorrect command I've seen discussed in the paid for guide in about the last six months.  I'm not sure what the other one was but it wasn't discussed here.  The correct command is NVDA key shift s. 
 
I seem to recall that the other incorrect command had to do with a screen review or object navigation command. 
 
Even if people know the correct command, it is important to report incorrect commands in instructional material NVDA creates or links to.
 
Gene
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Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] Nvda sleep. Mode

Hello. 
I have a question
I read in the nvda guide that pressing nvda + shift + z will put nvda to sleep,
But when i press it nothing happens,
So how do i put nvda to sleep?
Thanks

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Re: I'm dissappointed

Arlene
 

Amen preach it. This is a rocking Screen Reader.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angela Delicata
Sent: December-22-17 10:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm dissappointed

+1000! I wish I know it before: I am really happy with nvda; it is a
wonderful screen reader.

If we think all they ask is a donation and they give us such a wonderful
product... Isn't it fantastic?

Happy vacation to all.

best.

Angela from Italy


Il 22/12/2017 19:12, Sky Mundell ha scritto:
I totally agree with you. Lets all promote the use of this terrific product!



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 9:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I'm dissappointed



Hi all. FYI the Webame survey 7 results out out. It’s a mixed bag. I’m dissappoited in NVDA useage. Its at 31.9 percent and that other screen reader I won’t talk about anymore is at 46 percent. All I’ll say is this. Spread the word about NVDA. I know a lot of you have adopted the use of it over the past year now that WINEyes is dead. Also if you can send NV Access a donation.



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Re: I'm dissappointed

Sky Mundell
 

Absolutely, however, this survey is opened to corruption.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 11:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm dissappointed

 

You are correct Ruy. They need to redo their survey to reflect worldwide useage of NVDA ant that other screen reader.

 

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From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 1:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm dissappointed

 

 

In Survey #5, January 2014,  NVDA have 18,6%

In survey #6, July 2015, have 14.6% (mainly because this year have many

low-vision users)

In survey #7, October 2017, NVDA achieves 31.9%!

 

And, remember that 60% of respondants are from North America... And NVDA

is more used in other parts of the world, like Asia and South America...

The two biggest communities are from India and Brasil!

 

Rui Fontes

 

 

Às 17:46 de 22/12/2017, Lino Morales escreveu:

> Hi all. FYI the Webame survey 7 results out out. It’s a mixed bag. I’m

> dissappoited in NVDA useage. Its at 31.9 percent and that other screen

> reader I won’t talk about anymore is at 46 percent. All I’ll say is

> this. Spread the word about NVDA. I know a lot of you have adopted the

> use of it over the past year now that WINEyes is dead. Also if you can

> send NV Access a donation.

>

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows 10

>

>

 

 

 


Re: I'm dissappointed

Lino Morales
 

You are correct Ruy. They need to redo their survey to reflect worldwide useage of NVDA ant that other screen reader.

 

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From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 1:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm dissappointed

 

 

In Survey #5, January 2014,  NVDA have 18,6%

In survey #6, July 2015, have 14.6% (mainly because this year have many

low-vision users)

In survey #7, October 2017, NVDA achieves 31.9%!

 

And, remember that 60% of respondants are from North America... And NVDA

is more used in other parts of the world, like Asia and South America...

The two biggest communities are from India and Brasil!

 

Rui Fontes

 

 

Às 17:46 de 22/12/2017, Lino Morales escreveu:

> Hi all. FYI the Webame survey 7 results out out. It’s a mixed bag. I’m

> dissappoited in NVDA useage. Its at 31.9 percent and that other screen

> reader I won’t talk about anymore is at 46 percent. All I’ll say is

> this. Spread the word about NVDA. I know a lot of you have adopted the

> use of it over the past year now that WINEyes is dead. Also if you can

> send NV Access a donation.

>

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows 10

>

>

 

 

 


Re: Is there any way to stop Windows 10 updates frominterferingwith my settings?

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

For me, using the Microsoft Core voice/engine, it’s this one.

C:\windows\Speech_OneCore\Engines\TTS\en-US\M1033David.INI

 

I had to re-claim permission to modify the file, too. Something else I had already done, which Windows decided to reverse.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: December 22, 2017 1:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there any way to stop Windows 10 updates frominterferingwith my settings?

 

Out of curiosity where is said INI file located?

 

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From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there any way to stop Windows 10 updates frominterferingwith my settings?

 

Hi.

 

I’m considering purchasing a synth add-on for nVDA. Thing is, those pauses are supposed to be removable via the editing of an .ini file, and, indeed, they are. I guess this is not a big deal to some people, but I personally feel affronted that Microsoft apparently does not trust that users who make modifications to their systems – really want those modifications to stay in place.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: December 21, 2017 4:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there any way to stop Windows 10 updates from interferingwith my settings?

 

Well I suggest you write to MS via the Feedback Hub app in WIN 10. The pauses don’t bother me much. Maybe you should purchase the ETI Eloquence add-on. Merry Christmas John boy.

 

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From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 3:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is there any way to stop Windows 10 updates from interferingwith my settings?

 

Hi everyone.

 

So I’ve heard all the arguments and I’m not here to bitch about Windows always wanting to update itself. However, I must say I am very annoyed. Sometimes, when Windows updates, changes I have made continually are getting revoked, and reset back to their original values. Examples would be Windows Mobile Device Centre, which at some point between Anniversary and Creators’ update disabled a setting that I need to use my old Windows ME device with the computer (a Braille note, if anyone’s curious). Cortana reactivates itself even though I specifically took action to disable it. More pertinently to this list, a while ago I became very annoyed at the long pauses Microsoft Core voice inserts between sentences and after detecting a comma. I was instructed by a very helpful person on this list to edit an .ini file, which, although it was not quite in the location he specified, did the trick very nicely. Well, here we go again: nVDA, using MS Core voices, is pausing for as much as two seconds between sentences, and I hate it. Of course, I’m going to go back into that .ini file, and change it again. How long before Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom, decides that no, I really don’t want things set the way I say I want, and undoes what I took time and effort to change? How can I prevent this sort of garbage from happening, or is this just the kind of thing PC users have to live with nowadays?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

JM

 

 

 


Re: I'm dissappointed

Rui Fontes
 

In Survey #5, January 2014, NVDA have 18,6%
In survey #6, July 2015, have 14.6% (mainly because this year have many low-vision users)
In survey #7, October 2017, NVDA achieves 31.9%!

And, remember that 60% of respondants are from North America... And NVDA is more used in other parts of the world, like Asia and South America... The two biggest communities are from India and Brasil!

Rui Fontes


Às 17:46 de 22/12/2017, Lino Morales escreveu:

Hi all. FYI the Webame survey 7 results out out. It’s a mixed bag. I’m dissappoited in NVDA useage. Its at 31.9 percent and that other screen reader I won’t talk about anymore is at 46 percent. All I’ll say is this. Spread the word about NVDA. I know a lot of you have adopted the use of it over the past year now that WINEyes is dead. Also if you can send NV Access a donation.
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Re: Is there any way to stop Windows 10 updates frominterferingwith my settings?

Lino Morales
 

Out of curiosity where is said INI file located?

 

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From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there any way to stop Windows 10 updates frominterferingwith my settings?

 

Hi.

 

I’m considering purchasing a synth add-on for nVDA. Thing is, those pauses are supposed to be removable via the editing of an .ini file, and, indeed, they are. I guess this is not a big deal to some people, but I personally feel affronted that Microsoft apparently does not trust that users who make modifications to their systems – really want those modifications to stay in place.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: December 21, 2017 4:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there any way to stop Windows 10 updates from interferingwith my settings?

 

Well I suggest you write to MS via the Feedback Hub app in WIN 10. The pauses don’t bother me much. Maybe you should purchase the ETI Eloquence add-on. Merry Christmas John boy.

 

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From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 3:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is there any way to stop Windows 10 updates from interferingwith my settings?

 

Hi everyone.

 

So I’ve heard all the arguments and I’m not here to bitch about Windows always wanting to update itself. However, I must say I am very annoyed. Sometimes, when Windows updates, changes I have made continually are getting revoked, and reset back to their original values. Examples would be Windows Mobile Device Centre, which at some point between Anniversary and Creators’ update disabled a setting that I need to use my old Windows ME device with the computer (a Braille note, if anyone’s curious). Cortana reactivates itself even though I specifically took action to disable it. More pertinently to this list, a while ago I became very annoyed at the long pauses Microsoft Core voice inserts between sentences and after detecting a comma. I was instructed by a very helpful person on this list to edit an .ini file, which, although it was not quite in the location he specified, did the trick very nicely. Well, here we go again: nVDA, using MS Core voices, is pausing for as much as two seconds between sentences, and I hate it. Of course, I’m going to go back into that .ini file, and change it again. How long before Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom, decides that no, I really don’t want things set the way I say I want, and undoes what I took time and effort to change? How can I prevent this sort of garbage from happening, or is this just the kind of thing PC users have to live with nowadays?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

JM

 

 

 


Re: I'm dissappointed

Angela Delicata
 

+1000! I wish I know it before: I am really happy with nvda; it is a wonderful screen reader.

If we think all they ask is a donation and they give us such a wonderful product... Isn't it fantastic?

Happy vacation to all.

best.

Angela from Italy

Il 22/12/2017 19:12, Sky Mundell ha scritto:
I totally agree with you. Lets all promote the use of this terrific product!


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 9:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I'm dissappointed


Hi all. FYI the Webame survey 7 results out out. It’s a mixed bag. I’m dissappoited in NVDA useage. Its at 31.9 percent and that other screen reader I won’t talk about anymore is at 46 percent. All I’ll say is this. Spread the word about NVDA. I know a lot of you have adopted the use of it over the past year now that WINEyes is dead. Also if you can send NV Access a donation.


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Re: Nvda sleep. Mode

 

Hello
Pressing nvda +shift +s, nvda says selected and does not goes to sleep,
I am using a laptop by the way,
Thanks

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On 23 Dec 2017, at 01.27, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

What guide are you referring to?  Do you mean the guide you purchase?  If so, and if you are reporting the command as it exists accurately in the guide, that is the second incorrect command I've seen discussed in the paid for guide in about the last six months.  I'm not sure what the other one was but it wasn't discussed here.  The correct command is NVDA key shift s. 
 
I seem to recall that the other incorrect command had to do with a screen review or object navigation command. 
 
Even if people know the correct command, it is important to report incorrect commands in instructional material NVDA creates or links to.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] Nvda sleep. Mode

Hello. 
I have a question
I read in the nvda guide that pressing nvda + shift + z will put nvda to sleep,
But when i press it nothing happens,
So how do i put nvda to sleep?
Thanks

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Re: Nvda sleep. Mode

Gene
 

What guide are you referring to?  Do you mean the guide you purchase?  If so, and if you are reporting the command as it exists accurately in the guide, that is the second incorrect command I've seen discussed in the paid for guide in about the last six months.  I'm not sure what the other one was but it wasn't discussed here.  The correct command is NVDA key shift s. 
 
I seem to recall that the other incorrect command had to do with a screen review or object navigation command. 
 
Even if people know the correct command, it is important to report incorrect commands in instructional material NVDA creates or links to.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] Nvda sleep. Mode

Hello. 
I have a question
I read in the nvda guide that pressing nvda + shift + z will put nvda to sleep,
But when i press it nothing happens,
So how do i put nvda to sleep?
Thanks

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Nvda sleep. Mode

 

Hello. 
I have a question
I read in the nvda guide that pressing nvda + shift + z will put nvda to sleep,
But when i press it nothing happens,
So how do i put nvda to sleep?
Thanks

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Re: I'm dissappointed

Sky Mundell
 

I totally agree with you. Lets all promote the use of this terrific product!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 9:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I'm dissappointed

 

Hi all. FYI the Webame survey 7 results out out. It’s a mixed bag. I’m dissappoited in NVDA useage. Its at 31.9 percent and that other screen reader I won’t talk about anymore is at 46 percent. All I’ll say is this. Spread the word about NVDA. I know a lot of you have adopted the use of it over the past year now that WINEyes is dead. Also if you can send NV Access a donation.

 

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Re: Vocalizer expressive

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Cool. Maybe that's the one I ought to shell out for, then.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: December 22, 2017 12:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Vocalizer expressive

Kate is available in the addon from CodeFactory.
Eloquence isn't very good in that addon, but the CodeFactory Vocalizer works
great in my experience.


I'm dissappointed

Lino Morales
 

Hi all. FYI the Webame survey 7 results out out. It’s a mixed bag. I’m dissappoited in NVDA useage. Its at 31.9 percent and that other screen reader I won’t talk about anymore is at 46 percent. All I’ll say is this. Spread the word about NVDA. I know a lot of you have adopted the use of it over the past year now that WINEyes is dead. Also if you can send NV Access a donation.

 

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Re: competition

Lino Morales
 

What does this have to do with screen readers in general?

 

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From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] competition

 

Well we can't just blame fs, look at the apple vs samsung battles big

companies sue eachother.

 

The fact everyone let fs walk over them is unknown.

 

And no one cares really.

 

 

 

 

On 22/12/2017 11:41 a.m., Don H wrote:

> FS generated a lawsuit  against GW Micro for having the placemarker

> function in Window Eyes.  After a lot of time and money a Judge threw

> the suit out.

>

> .

 

 

 

 


Re: competition

Lino Morales
 

I know one of the big bruhahas they had was over the name Freedom Box. They had to stick with System Access. Retarded if you ask me.

 

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From: Antony Stone
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 5:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] competition

 

On what grounds did FS (threaten to) sue these companies?

 

 

Antony.

 

On Thursday 21 December 2017 at 22:56:26, Sky Mundell wrote:

 

> You hit the nail on the head Erik. That certainly what did happen.

> Competition in the early days of the windows screen reading market was

> supposed to put prices down and put functionality up. Instead, FS sued any

> agencies who did not purchase JAWS and threatened them to either buy JAWS

> or be sued. These agencies should have argued that client choice was more

> important But back then they weren’t allowing client choice either. And,

> as for the sniping of AT companies, that is what happened. Remember that

> lawsuit that FS filed against Serotek, and GW Micro? I think this was in

> response to agencies starting to buy alternative screen readers for their

> clients that this lawsuit happened. These lawsuits were totally

> unnecessary and they should have dented fs’s reputation.

>

> erik burggraaf Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 11:09 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] competition

>

> Competition makes a lot of products better.  I've never seen any evidence

> that this applies to screen readers though.

>

> Windows is the only OS without built in access.  Narrater is less and less

> useless all the time, but it's not up to the quality of what's built in to

> any other OS on the market.

>

> Windows is the only system with a multi-screenreader approach.  Lots of

> people tried to capitalize on android access, but the built in features

> are good enough to put paid and even free competitors out of business.

>

> Competition never brought the prices down or the functionality up.  Users

> certainly didn't benefit from the legal snyping of the big AT companies or

> the antitrust of microsoft building in it's own screen reader.  Oddly

> enough, the same people who lobbied against microsoft building it's own

> screen reader also lobbie governments for exclusivity agreements to sell

> only one of the so called competing products.  What do we call that when

> microsoft tries it?  Antitrust.  Huh...  How do users benefit from the

> exclusivity agreements?

>

> NVDA development isn't driven by competition with other screen readers.

> It's driven by the community through donations of code and money and other

> talents derived from the community.

>

> Even when there were many products competing in the market, I didn't see

> any evidence that the competition improved the over all performance,

> stability, feature sets or monitary value of screen reader products in

> general.

>

> Now that the actual number of windows screen readers is shrinking, and the

> number of viably accessible OS is growing, and the business models of

> windows screen readers are so dramatically different, I believe pmarket

> competition is even less important than it was five or ten yearss ago.  I

> mean, what's the value of an exclusivity agreement to sell only one

> product when the next best competitor can be downloaded for free by any

> one with a computer?

>

> Best,

>

> Erik

>

> On December 20, 2017 12:45:24 AM "Sarah k Alawami" wrote:

>

> I'm actually up for  competition. It will make each product better and

> better as time goes by.. I didn't want to use nvda in 2006 or 2007  when

> it came out as jaws at the time was the best. Now I won't touch jaws with

> a 10 foot pole. I tried to make my work switch but their excuse was that

> nvda was not meant for the word place and they would not consider it.

 

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"Microsoft's profit margins require a monopoly lock on the market; thus,

they're stuck with being predatory evil bastards. The moment they stop being

predatory evil bastards, their stock price will tank and their options pyramid

will crash and it will be all over."

 

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Re: Is there any way to stop Windows 10 updates from interferingwith my settings?

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Hi.

 

I’m considering purchasing a synth add-on for nVDA. Thing is, those pauses are supposed to be removable via the editing of an .ini file, and, indeed, they are. I guess this is not a big deal to some people, but I personally feel affronted that Microsoft apparently does not trust that users who make modifications to their systems – really want those modifications to stay in place.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: December 21, 2017 4:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there any way to stop Windows 10 updates from interferingwith my settings?

 

Well I suggest you write to MS via the Feedback Hub app in WIN 10. The pauses don’t bother me much. Maybe you should purchase the ETI Eloquence add-on. Merry Christmas John boy.

 

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From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 3:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is there any way to stop Windows 10 updates from interferingwith my settings?

 

Hi everyone.

 

So I’ve heard all the arguments and I’m not here to bitch about Windows always wanting to update itself. However, I must say I am very annoyed. Sometimes, when Windows updates, changes I have made continually are getting revoked, and reset back to their original values. Examples would be Windows Mobile Device Centre, which at some point between Anniversary and Creators’ update disabled a setting that I need to use my old Windows ME device with the computer (a Braille note, if anyone’s curious). Cortana reactivates itself even though I specifically took action to disable it. More pertinently to this list, a while ago I became very annoyed at the long pauses Microsoft Core voice inserts between sentences and after detecting a comma. I was instructed by a very helpful person on this list to edit an .ini file, which, although it was not quite in the location he specified, did the trick very nicely. Well, here we go again: nVDA, using MS Core voices, is pausing for as much as two seconds between sentences, and I hate it. Of course, I’m going to go back into that .ini file, and change it again. How long before Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom, decides that no, I really don’t want things set the way I say I want, and undoes what I took time and effort to change? How can I prevent this sort of garbage from happening, or is this just the kind of thing PC users have to live with nowadays?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

JM

 

 


Re: Vocalizer expressive

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Kate is available in the addon from CodeFactory.
Eloquence isn't very good in that addon, but the CodeFactory Vocalizer works great in my experience.


Re: Is there any way to stop Windows 10 updates from interfering with my settings?

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Yeah…it’s such a pain, and seems blatantly to disregard the user/customer’s wishes.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: December 21, 2017 7:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there any way to stop Windows 10 updates from interfering with my settings?

 

I have the same complaint.  It appears that Windows is going into your programs and rewriting the ini files for some of them.  This is the only way this can happen.  It messes with my sound settings every time there's a major version update!

Roger







On 12/21/2017 2:54 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Hi everyone.

 

So I’ve heard all the arguments and I’m not here to bitch about Windows always wanting to update itself. However, I must say I am very annoyed. Sometimes, when Windows updates, changes I have made continually are getting revoked, and reset back to their original values. Examples would be Windows Mobile Device Centre, which at some point between Anniversary and Creators’ update disabled a setting that I need to use my old Windows ME device with the computer (a Braille note, if anyone’s curious). Cortana reactivates itself even though I specifically took action to disable it. More pertinently to this list, a while ago I became very annoyed at the long pauses Microsoft Core voice inserts between sentences and after detecting a comma. I was instructed by a very helpful person on this list to edit an .ini file, which, although it was not quite in the location he specified, did the trick very nicely. Well, here we go again: nVDA, using MS Core voices, is pausing for as much as two seconds between sentences, and I hate it. Of course, I’m going to go back into that .ini file, and change it again. How long before Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom, decides that no, I really don’t want things set the way I say I want, and undoes what I took time and effort to change? How can I prevent this sort of garbage from happening, or is this just the kind of thing PC users have to live with nowadays?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

JM

 

 


Re: Is there any way to stop Windows 10 updates from interfering with my settings?

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Yes. I guess making backups of every file I change is sensible practice. Not
even necessarily so I can fix something I break myself by accident, but so
it's easier to set right what MS puts wrong. What a world. Haha

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: December 21, 2017 9:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there any way to stop Windows 10 updates from
interfering with my settings?

Well in the case of modified files you can always put them to another
location as backup.

As for settings its probably easy if there are generic settings to change
things back but yeah  thats every feature update.

Windows also happily creates recovery partitions for everything and doesn't
clear the others and without a clear way to clear things safely via a gui
which could be free I am not sure if it is, I guess every few upgradess I
will reformat and all the problems will go away but thats ms for you.




On 22/12/2017 9:54 a.m., JM Casey wrote:
Hi everyone.



So I've heard all the arguments and I'm not here to bitch about
Windows always wanting to update itself. However, I must say I am very
annoyed.
Sometimes, when Windows updates, changes I have made continually are
getting revoked, and reset back to their original values. Examples
would be Windows Mobile Device Centre, which at some point between
Anniversary and Creators'
update disabled a setting that I need to use my old Windows ME device
with the computer (a Braille note, if anyone's curious). Cortana
reactivates itself even though I specifically took action to disable
it. More pertinently to this list, a while ago I became very annoyed
at the long pauses Microsoft Core voice inserts between sentences and
after detecting a comma. I was instructed by a very helpful person on
this list to edit an .ini file, which, although it was not quite in
the location he specified, did the trick very nicely. Well, here we go
again: nVDA, using MS Core voices, is pausing for as much as two
seconds between sentences, and I hate it. Of course, I'm going to go
back into that .ini file, and change it again. How long before
Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom, decides that no, I really don't
want things set the way I say I want, and undoes what I took time and
effort to change? How can I prevent this sort of garbage from
happening, or is this just the kind of thing PC users have to live with
nowadays?



Thanks in advance for any help.



JM