Viavoice is really old if its the version you are using,

You should  just use espeak.

It works.

Now as for the crashes, could be a virus, run your antivirus program.

Could be windows, reformat and it will go away.

Could be overheated things maybe a stuck fan or something.



On 31/12/2017 4:37 a.m., Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:

Hi good people:
I'm having a very odd problem with NVDA. It doesn't work normally on
my computer, with the internet. It crashes from time to time. It
happens on all the different browsers, including firefox, internet
explorer and chrome. It happens most times, when I want to open a
link in a new window.
Some times when a crash occurs, it affects the computer that I have to
shut it down all together in order to make it function again. Added
to this, when I attempt to spell out a word using my right arrow key,
the screen reader just shuts down.
I suspect the problem has to do with the synthesiser I use with the
screenreader.
I use a synth called viavoice outloud. It is an old synth. I can't
use the pre-installed ESpeak, because I don't understand what it says.
I've tried out different English tones, but I just can't understand
any of them.
As for the microsoft voices, they are just too low.
I don't have any problems with other programs on the computer. The
screenreader works very well on them.
Added to this, I don't have problems going through my mails on Gmail,
and composing messages. All these work very well too.
So, can anyone please suggest what I can do?
Hope to read some help.

From Ibrahim in Nigeria.

.

Hi good people:
I'm having a very odd problem with NVDA. It doesn't work normally on
my computer, with the internet. It crashes from time to time. It
happens on all the different browsers, including firefox, internet
explorer and chrome. It happens most times, when I want to open a
link in a new window.
Some times when a crash occurs, it affects the computer that I have to
shut it down all together in order to make it function again. Added
to this, when I attempt to spell out a word using my right arrow key,
the screen reader just shuts down.
I suspect the problem has to do with the synthesiser I use with the
screenreader.
I use a synth called viavoice outloud. It is an old synth. I can't
use the pre-installed ESpeak, because I don't understand what it says.
I've tried out different English tones, but I just can't understand
any of them.
As for the microsoft voices, they are just too low.
I don't have any problems with other programs on the computer. The
screenreader works very well on them.
Added to this, I don't have problems going through my mails on Gmail,
and composing messages. All these work very well too.
So, can anyone please suggest what I can do?
Hope to read some help.

From Ibrahim in Nigeria.

.

Having a student version of windows which is what s is is well interesting.

However for a full user you will either want to upgrade at cost to pro or avoid s completely.

But for a student or something that just wants a tablet and really doesn't need the extra stuff maybe an old person this may work.

Its just that we are all normal users and geeks here.

I for one will be getting nvda from the usual place.




On 26/12/2017 11:05 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Yes, But what is the actual point of having nvda in the Windows store in the first place?
From what I can see, most users will need to run add ons, which will mean running it as a normal app, and in that case they might as well get it from nvaccess.
The only people who will benefit from it being in the store are those running Windows 10S, the rubbish restricted hands tied behind back version of the operating system. Surely in this context, Narrator itself is going to have better access, being part of the operating system, albeit a bit slow and clunky.
I also don't understand how, for example, Google Chrome can actually be allowed to have a mere stub to load in normal Chrome in the Microsoft store.
If that is a way around it, why are we bothering to do all the work? One assumes Chrome is going to be the same as nvda, in that it can either run with its hands tied or normally in the same code. I'm sure this whole mess with Firefox is due to the same strange concept of Microsofts.
As I said in a previous post, most people are distrustful of Microsofts real agenda here, and so many would choose to continue with normal Windows, Normal Office and normal apps.
The other down side of so called universal apps and the restrictions of the system is that they seem to have abandoned a user interface that is the same for all. Its a ruddy free for all in this area, making apps that run under it really hard to learn as one has to throw all knowledge out and then try to understand what a particular author has in fact done.

I'm not having a go at nvda here, as we have to live in the world as it is, its just that for many blind people we feel that the rug is being pulled out from below us just as we are getting equal access.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Futore porting of NVDA to Python 3.X. Why?

Hi everyone,
Ah, an interesting question on the morning of Christmas (where it is past 3
AM my time)...
A bit of explaining is in order:
Regarding dropping support for Windows releases prior to 7 SP1: for a long
time, folks using Firefox and other web browsers experienced a problem where
NVDA's browse mode functionality wouldn't work when you restart NVDA while
focused on the browser window. In order to fix this, NV Access turned to
using some things from Windows API that isn't part of old Windows releases.
Because of this and other factors outlined below, NV Access wrote in August
2017 that NVDA 2017.3 will be the last release to support old Windows
versions.
Another factor is Windows OneCore rate boost issue. Currently in order to
use OneCore voices (on Windows 10 only) with faster speech rate, you have to
go to Settings, go to Ease of Access/Narrator and change the speech rate to
a faster value. A fix is now available but only on Windows 10 Version 1709
(Fall Creators Update), and incorporating the fix requires us (NV Access and
other developers) to use latest Windows 10 SDK, which will work only on an
update to Visual Studio 2017. Unfortunately, this meant giving up ability to
compile NVDA so it can run on old Windows releases.
Last one for now: a few days ago, you may recall a message where I told some
people to "shhh for now" over something under active development, and I
hinted on Twitter that you'll meet NVDA on a new outlet. For those who
solved the puzzle, great. For the rest of you: one day, you'll find yourself
opening Microsoft Store app on your Windows 10 S computer, searching for and
installing a Windows Store (aka Project Centennial) version of NVDA. This
also answers a question some of you may have had: yes, the Windows Store
version of NVDA CANNOT run add-ons at this time, but that could change as
development progresses. I won't go into details on mechanics of how this can
be done, but suffice to say that those running latest next branch snapshots
are already running a modified code that lets NVDA detect if it's running
inside a modified container. Fortunately for now, the old desktop version
code still lives, but once the Store version of NVDA ships, this will mean
saying goodbye to old technologies that were used on old Windows releases
(and the Store version and the desktop edition will still be together).
This is sort of an interesting segue to the question at hand: why Python 3?
The biggest advantage is ease of making NVDA speak and understand more
languages through extensive use of Unicode. One of our goals (developers,
and in extension, the community at large) is to let more blind people taste
what it is like to work and play with minimal or no financial barriers, and
internationalization is the key (this is why I kept asking for folks to help
out with translations). Python 3.x changes the game by shipping with
built-in support for Unicode, something Python 2 does not do well (hence the
need to use the Unicode function when needed).
Of course upgrading to Python 3 comes with downsides. Although we'll gain
native Unicode support, code must be edited and checked to make sure things
are working for folks as before. Unfortunately, there is a dark cloud over
us: add-ons, and I and community leaders are mostly to blame: we lost
contact with creators of some prominent add-ons, there are add-ons installed
on many NVDA installations that weren't updated in a very long time, and
add-on repositories are scattered all over the internet. As much as add-ons
are the sauce that binds the community together (among other things), our
lack of coordination, coupled with ones that won't be ported to Python 3
easily saddens me, knowing that this will be our undoing. Thankfully, some
in the add-ons community have recognized this early and are working
tirelessly to make sure that our add-ons are Python 3 ready.
Regarding Python 3 readiness of add-ons: mostly for add-ons community, but
effective March 1, 2018, any add-on I'll be reviewing must show that it is
python 3 ready, otherwise I'll ask authors to "transform" their code before
asking for another round of reviews. As for details, I'll post on the
add-ons mailing list, as it mostly concerns source code edits. For users,
this is so that your favorite add-ons can run on future NVDA versions
powered by Python 3.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 2:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Futore porting of NVDA to Python 3.X. Why?

Hi folks. I see a lot of issues and chat about doing this on github and
other places, however what seems to be lacking in these mostly technical
discussions, is a reason for doing it.
Is there anybody out there who understands the reasons well enough to
explain to the user who has probably not go a lot of understanding of
computer languages, exactly why this seems to be being prioritised over
getting nvda to work better as it stands.
I ask as to me at least, unless there is a need to rewrite whole sections
for some reason, it does seem a lot of work and will obviously slow down
development and indeed create bugs or remove functions accidentally.
We have just been through the dropping of support for XP, a decision not
universally popular from what I have heard, but obvious when you here
somebody explain why in as plain a language as one can. If somebody could
do the same for this major move it would I think go a long way toward
calming the frustrations some feel at the moment.
Oh and don't shoot me for saying this, its the season of Good Will you know!

Brian

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Hi good people:
I'm having a very odd problem with NVDA. It doesn't work normally on
my computer, with the internet. It crashes from time to time. It
happens on all the different browsers, including firefox, internet
explorer and chrome. It happens most times, when I want to open a
link in a new window.
Some times when a crash occurs, it affects the computer that I have to
shut it down all together in order to make it function again. Added
to this, when I attempt to spell out a word using my right arrow key,
the screen reader just shuts down.
I suspect the problem has to do with the synthesiser I use with the
screenreader.
I use a synth called viavoice outloud. It is an old synth. I can't
use the pre-installed ESpeak, because I don't understand what it says.
I've tried out different English tones, but I just can't understand
any of them.
As for the microsoft voices, they are just too low.
I don't have any problems with other programs on the computer. The
screenreader works very well on them.
Added to this, I don't have problems going through my mails on Gmail,
and composing messages. All these work very well too.
So, can anyone please suggest what I can do?
Hope to read some help.
From Ibrahim in Nigeria.

Hi, Pauline,

David Moore has a great tutorial on how to use the mail app. It also covers the calendar and the people app.

Hope this helps.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pauline Smith
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 5:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Win10's Mail App

Good Evening,

Are any instructions for using Win10's Mail app with NVDA? Thanks and an early wish for a happy new year.

Pauline

Hi, Pauline,

David Moore has a great tutorial on how to use the mail app. It also covers the calendar and the people app.

Hope this helps.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pauline Smith
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 5:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Win10's Mail App

Good Evening,

Are any instructions for using Win10's Mail app with NVDA? Thanks and an early wish for a happy new year.

Pauline

Yes, Firefox works fine, it is just when using Chrome.




Thanks.




Dan Beaver




On 12/29/2017 1:17 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Hm. I use the site with Firefox with no problems, or at least I did until recently (haven’t visited in a few weeks). Maybe I’ll give chrome a shot and see what happens.

Â

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: December 29, 2017 11:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Chrome and indeed.com

Â

Hi,

Â

When I use the latest stable NVDA and the latest Chrome and go to the indeed.com site it has problems. It seems that NVDA is getting hung up in some kind of banner that shows up and I can't seem to get out of it and go to the main part of the page.

Â

I can't tell if this is an NVDA issue or a Chrome issue. No warnings or errors are showing up in the NVDA log.

Â

Can someone else try the site and see if you have the same problem?

Â

Dan Beaver

Hi,




When I use the latest stable NVDA and the latest Chrome and go to the indeed.com site it has problems. It seems that NVDA is getting hung up in some kind of banner that shows up and I can't seem to get out of it and go to the main part of the page.




I can't tell if this is an NVDA issue or a Chrome issue. No warnings or errors are showing up in the NVDA log.





Can someone else try the site and see if you have the same problem?




Dan Beaver

Running the latest next snapshot of NVDA on a Win 10 system. Every time I open a web site using Chrome I get the NVDA error sound. Is this normal?

On Dec 28, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I am trying to use the windows 10 games bar to record what is on my screen.
When I hit windows+g, I am asked if the current screen is a game. NVDA reads
the question to me but I am unable to answer it because the question
disappears. Is there a way of handling this?

Pranav

Good Evening,

Are any instructions for using Win10's Mail app with NVDA?  Thanks and an early wish for a happy new year.

Pauline

I am creating a text version of a help page. I need to describe in text a common pop-up window that the windows operating system displays. It would be shown as a picture to sighted users. To describe it, I have written:

When the file is made, you will be asked whether to open it or save it. A pop-up window will appear to ask "Do you want to open or save filename from blah.faa.gov?" followed by the buttons Open, Save, Cancel, and Close this Window.

As a sighted user, I see an X on the pop-up window and know that it means “Close this Window”. But, how does it read to you? Is it called “Close this Window” or what is it called by the screen reader?

Likewise, the Save button is really a drop-down menu that is defaulted to Save. How does it call out the menu to you? I want to use the right words in my description.

Thanks and sorry for the bother,

Tonea

Hi David,

You're right that we need command prompt to execute it.

• Download the exe to a folder. Here's the download link https://yt-dl.org/latest/youtube-dl.exe
• Open cmd.exe and navigate to folder where youtube-dl.exe located
• Execute the command to retrieve all available format (Note that we use capital F)
• youtube-dl.exe -F [youtube_url_you_want_to_download]
• The software will download metadata containing available the format you wanted. There'll be multiple options to choose. We even can download audio only file.
• Then execute similar command to download media file that you wan (we use small f lerter here)
  
• youtube-dl.exe -f [format_code] [youtube_url_you_want_to_download]

Example to download full HD video (format code 22) from nvaccess:

youtube-dl.exe -F https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOQ7zELFmLE
youtube-dl.exe -f 22 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOQ7zELFmLE

Note

• Add location where we save youtube-dl.exe to system environment PATH in order to access it from anywhere
• If you add playlist URL, it will download all the videos
• If the program unable to download, perhaps google made another modifications. Just download the new version and it should work.
  
• The good thing of command line is that NVDA works really well with it

If you need help, you may contact me

skype : edhoari.s

email : edhoari.s@...

On 29-Dec-17 5:08 PM, David Griffith wrote:

 

Is there any clue as to how to use it?

The documentation seems to assume you have a  degree in programming.

A basic set  of instrukctions for a Windows  User would be very useful.

It appears that you need to run it from a command prompt but how to do this and where to put the program to achieve this, and if possible an example of how to use it  would be great.

I don’t  know if this exists anywhere.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Edhoari Setiyoso
Sent: 29 December 2017 09:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda with a youtube to mp3 converter program

 

You could try this software (https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/)

I use it for couple of years without problems. Only when google made modifications on youtube then I need to update it.

 

On 29-Dec-17 4:10 PM, David Griffith wrote:

I believe that this program  is no longer in development so the chance of  an update may be remote.

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 29 December 2017 08:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda with a youtube to mp3 converter program

 

Google have changed the way Youtube works, so I'd suspect whoever wrote the

software needs to also change something to sort it.

Brian

 

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From: "Peter Chin" <peter.chinpk@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 9:46 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda with a youtube to mp3 converter program

 

 

I have been using Pontes Media Downloader for some time without any problems

until recently. Now, when I try to download a file, the download starts but

stops, and there is a message that “An error has occurred”. What should I do

to correct that? All suggestions are welcome.

 

My OS is Windows 8.1.

From: Jason Milyo

Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:22 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda with a youtube to mp3 converter program

 

Hi, there I use Pontes Media Downloader it’s easy to set up and you can

paste links and just tab of what format you want the video to be converted

too and go from there promps are accessible.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

From: Dan Thompson

Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 11:31 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] nvda with a youtube to mp3 converter program

 

 

 

Hi All,

 

I have been using the free youtube to mp3 converter for several years.  But

suddenly I can not seem to get the url to paste into the converter and auto

download into the music folder.    I am using verson 3.3.12.59 build 5.5.

It seems the new version of this program from  DVDVideoSoft  in the new 4.62

version has become very unaccessible.

 

I wrote a chapter in a book using my laptop with nvda and version 3.12.5

build 5-05.  However, now with the new verson nothing downloads

automatically even if I get that bock check, and that is quit challenging

itself.  The menus are rather unaccessible.

 

Is there another youtube to mp3 converter that is easy to use. I work with

seniors, (55 and older), most around 65 years.

 

I will be greatful for any advice.9files to

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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