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Re: Issues with dropbox addon

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Please everyone if you are getting issues, tell them about it. I don't think they are anti us, just not really very aware of the issues like so many companies these days.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with dropbox addon


Good morning, Bryan.

Oh, I see. Well it's very unfortunate. Then we'll have to wait and see what happen.

Thanks for your responce.


Fernando Apan.

El 02/01/2018 a las 03:14 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escribió:
Well I reported this on Dropbox36, and its now on version 40.xx. Unfortunately this is not the only problem. They seem to have changed a lot of their web site as well making it quite hard to navigate for unexplained reasons with nvda.
Maybe somebody with the knowledge might like to look at this. I have in the past found there tech help quite good, but they seem, increasingly not to understand where a blind user has issues, which is a little sad.
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2018 3:40 AM
Subject: [nvda] Issues with dropbox addon


Hi Everyone,

First of all, I hope you all are having a great year.

I'm experiensing a very extrainge problem with the firefox addon. It seems it hasn't been updated for a while. When I install it and press NVDA+alt+f I get this message: dropbox not found.

Would you please help me to figure out what could be happening?

Thanks in advance.


Fernando Apan.






Re: New add-on - IndentNav

Tony Malykh
 

Hi Derek,


I have fixed all the changes you proposed. I haven't made a new release yet though. IF that's OK, I'll be happy if you can publish it on the official NVDA add-ons site.


Thanks

Tony


On 1/1/2018 7:28 PM, derek riemer wrote:
We need you to put a GPL header on this file so that anyone downloading it knows it complies with GPL (This is because it's running in NVDA's GPL process).


Next, let us know when you are ready for this to go on the addons site (if you want that which I assume you do).

Other tidbits, not needing changed to pass code review:
def isEmptyLine(self, s):
Did you know about speech.isBlank?


Why is there a random pass at the end of the file?

On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 6:43 PM, Tony Malykh <anton.malykh@...> wrote:
Hi guys,


I just wrote my first NVDA add-on:

https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav


It solves two problems:

1. In browsers you can jump to paragraphs with the same horizontal offset. For example, it can be useful to read first-level comments on web-pages that present a hierarchical trees of comments, like reddit. Now you can simply find the first comment and press NVDA+Alt+DownArrow to go to the next first-level comment.

2. While editing source code in many programming languages, it allows you to navigate by the indentation level. For example, you can move to previous/next lines with the same indentation level by pressing NVDA+Alt+Up or DownArrow. You can also jump to a parent line or to first child.


Please let me know if anyone finds it useful, or if you have any suggestions.


Tony










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Re: New add-on - IndentNav

Tony Malykh
 

Thank you!

On 1/1/2018 5:56 PM, MJW wrote:
Tony, a v useful add-on; good thinking, good work.

On 02/01/2018, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Hi,
I'm forwarding this to the add-ons community in case someone is interested
in using and/or reviewing it for inclusion in our website.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Malykh
Sent: Monday, January 1, 2018 5:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New add-on - IndentNav

Hi guys,


I just wrote my first NVDA add-on:

https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav


It solves two problems:

1. In browsers you can jump to paragraphs with the same horizontal offset.
For example, it can be useful to read first-level comments on web-pages that
present a hierarchical trees of comments, like reddit.
Now you can simply find the first comment and press NVDA+Alt+DownArrow to go
to the next first-level comment.

2. While editing source code in many programming languages, it allows you to
navigate by the indentation level. For example, you can move to
previous/next lines with the same indentation level by pressing
NVDA+Alt+Up or DownArrow. You can also jump to a parent line or to first
child.


Please let me know if anyone finds it useful, or if you have any
suggestions.


Tony











Re: Issues with dropbox addon

Fernando Apan
 

Oops, sorry. I ment to write D in stead of F, that was my mistake. But in fact, the icon is there, because I can see it from the system trade. It's just that NVDA doesn't read the dropbox sttatus.
Cheers.

Fernando Apan.


In the first place, the hotkey for the dropbox add on is NVDA + Alt + D and not F. Second, dropbox not found may just mean it's icon isn't showing in the system tray and you need to go to settings, personalization, then choose which icons appear in the system tray and make sure dropbox is turned on. This should fix it.

Roger

On 1/1/2018 9:40 PM, Fernando Apan wrote:
Hi Everyone,

First of all, I hope you all are having a great year.

I'm experiensing a very extrainge problem with the firefox addon. It seems it hasn't been updated for a while. When I install it and press NVDA+alt+f I get this message: dropbox not found.

Would you please help me to figure out what could be happening?

Thanks in advance.


Fernando Apan.



.


Re: Issues with dropbox addon

Roger Stewart
 

In the first place, the hotkey for the dropbox add on is NVDA + Alt + D and not F. Second, dropbox not found may just mean it's icon isn't showing in the system tray and you need to go to settings, personalization, then choose which icons appear in the system tray and make sure dropbox is turned on. This should fix it.

Roger

On 1/1/2018 9:40 PM, Fernando Apan wrote:
Hi Everyone,

First of all, I hope you all are having a great year.

I'm experiensing a very extrainge problem with the firefox addon. It seems it hasn't been updated for a while. When I install it and press NVDA+alt+f I get this message: dropbox not found.

Would you please help me to figure out what could be happening?

Thanks in advance.


Fernando Apan.



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Re: numb lock help

Antony Stone
 

When you press the / key, do you get the / symbol?

I ask because on my number pad, the Num Lock key is the top left, whereas the
/ key is immediately to its right.

I just wonder whether you're pressing the Num Lock key instead (which would be
indicated by not getting the / symbol when you press the button), and
therefore the next key to the right is the one you need?

On my number pad, the keys on the top row, from left to right, and Num Lock, /
(slash), * (asterisk) and - (minus).


Antony.

On Tuesday 02 January 2018 at 20:15:45, slery wrote:

I have accidently done something to the number pad on my keyboard
(desktop). When I hit the / on the numb pad it turns off the numb lock.
So, if I want to type a date I type 1/ and then the numb lock is off and I
can't type the rest of the date without turning the numb lock back on. It
was probably some kind of accidental multiple key press on the numb pad as
this is when it started.

Desperately seeking help,

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Re: I'm dissappointed

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Again, I don't disagree necessarily. I'm just stating fact about the differences, advantages, disadvantages, and what all this means for users and developers. I want people who are in the kind of position that Sandra is in to understand where things are headed and that regardless of the short term solution, the end result will be more inclusive development.

All this has been going on for 10 or 12 years already. It should come as no surprise to most of us. There are a huge number of factors. Obviously, we want full inclusion sooner than later. That requires us to balance the short term and long term goals. We need to get things done today, but we also need to keep our eyes on the prise, and advocate for new infrestructure that fits the new paradigm.

We have to realise that we are legally and socially entitled to consideration in development, that we have people with the skills to collaborate in bringing in the new design paradigm, that the laws and standards support us, that the new paradigm benefits every one, not only people with disabilities, and that the more we become adopters and advocates, the faster we forward the trend.

Best,

Erik

On January 1, 2018 8:27:59 PM "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@...> wrote:

<snip > This is one area where I disagree. Not that jaws has the features or
that they are useful, but that they belong in NVDA. I believe that it
is the responsibility of developers to label their graphics and
controls, draw and class their windows and controls properly, and
build keyboard/touchscreen support for their apps properly. This is
increasingly required by law, imposed by societal change, taught as
programming best practice, and demonstrably beneficial beyond the
needs of disability communities. Unfortunately, it's not all there
yet, but within the next three years, it will become legally and
socially inacceptable to build software without regard for
accessibility standards, just as you wouldn't build out with no regard
for UI, performance, security, and other common standards and best
practices. I believe the development philosophy of NVDA is based on
this. A screen reader should read the screen, conveying the
information already provided in accessible format, doing as little
interpretation as possible.
PL] Eric, I agree with Sandra. Philosophy is ok in the long run but I have to get work done now and will take the easiest path to do that work. Compliance is never 100%. What about all the legacy applications enterprises run? I need a solution for reading the screen and I see no problem in that solution giving me information in a way that is easiest for me to consume.

Pranav


numb lock help

slery <slerythema@...>
 

I have accidently done something to the number pad on my keyboard (desktop). When I hit the / on the numb pad it turns off the numb lock. So, if I want to type a date I type 1/ and then the numb lock is off and I can’t type the rest of the date without turning the numb lock back on. It was probably some kind of accidental multiple key press on the numb pad as this is when it started.

 

Desperately seeking help,

Cindy


Welcome to NVDA 2018: get ready to browse the web

 

Ladies and gentlemen,

 

The next part in Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorials set is now up on www.josephsl.net. This part concerns basic web browsing concepts and commands and completes the basics set in this series (and the first half of this set).

 

Changes from 2015:

 

  • Completely redone with new examples and with use of Windows OneCore voices.
  • Microsoft Edge (Windows 10 Version 1709) and Mozilla Firefox (version 58 beta) were used (see below for explanations). For the most part, Edge is used, but for some things, Firefox is better.
  • Added a dedicated section on screen layout.
  • Added an actual example of partially turning off browse mode (single letter navigation on/off) in web applications, specifically for embedded video player on YouTube website.
  • Changes to first letter navigation sections, including reduced coverage for embedded objects (it was a dedicated section in 2015, but now one of the elements in 2018), long descriptions now part of graphics, and a comment on ability to move to read-only edit fields. Differences between web browsers and support for elements is also highlighted.
  • Added coverage for the following elements and first letter commands: annotations (A), spelling errors (W). They won’t work on web browsers but will work while browse mode is engaged in Microsoft Word.
  • Added a dedicated section on refreshing web content.
  • Elements list has been expanded to cover new elements not only for web browsing (including the new form fields and buttons options), but also for Microsoft Word (comments and spelling errors) and Microsoft Excel (charts, formulas, cell comments and sheets). Element activation and movement examples are based on form fields.
  • Examples of live regions are showcased.
  • Added a segment on interacting with online math content (requires properly formatted MathML content and installation of MathPlayer from Design Science).

 

Again each topic is its own mp3 file. Combined, they run for over two hours, with the tour of first letter navigation commands taking 65 minutes to traverse (spread over two segments). Because of the length of this part, I didn’t have time to demonstrate reading PDF files in Microsoft Edge nor dealing with a more realistic web application (I wanted to use Google Docs for this but it didn’t work out in the end due to time and complexity involved).

 

A bit of explanation as to why I used two web browsers: I did it for three important reasons:

 

  1. To highlight latest developments in web browsing and how far browsers have come.
  2. To demonstrate the fact that different web browsers display the same website differently.
  3. To showcase what works and doesn’t work for each browser, mostly to highlight strengths and current limitations with Microsoft Edge.

 

Enjoy the tutorials. As always, feedback is appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: making IE your default browser

Gene
 

It would be a very good idea to use firefox or Chrome.  Browsing itself is identical because they all use browse mode.  The settings interface is somewhat different.  The bookmarks interface is very similar in firefox, a little different in Chrome.  Firefox has a very good search feature.  It's so convenient that I never organize book marks. 
 
Internet Explorer is receiving security updates but it has had no technical work done on it for a number of years. 
 
I'm not sure how accessible Edge is yet but it may now be a good alternative as well. 
 
Gene

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Hi. I’m shopping around for a win ten computer. I need to know how to make IE my default Browser.  Thought someone posted some info on how to do it. I thought I kept the info. I can’t for the life of me find it. How does one make IE the default browser? Thanks and have a good day!


Re: I'm dissappointed

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

It isn't that way here in Ontario.

I had difficulty getting medical information last year. My doctor refused to provide accessible format. Fortunately, his manager knew better. She tried to get me to sign off on my freedom of access but after a couple of refusals, I finally got access. If that hadn't been the case, I would have filed a discrimination complaint against the doctor, and won easily. Filing is free and can be done by any one. Legal representation is free,; however, the legal support centre only takes cases based on chance of success. This would have been a shoe in.

I also have experience filing discrimination complaints in the states. The challenge was free and any one could file it. Legal advice is harder, but there are organizations that can help such as the NFB in the case of people who are blind.

Ontario law has the goal of making the province barrier-free by 2025. They are grossly behind schedule, but I hope more constituants will take an active roll and things will step up.

Best,

Erik

On January 2, 2018 4:11:36 AM "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

While I agree in principle with your reading of the laws, sadly it seems to
me, in the UK at least that the law has no teeth or indeed anyone prepared
for the lengthy proceedings and high costs of taking companies to court over
it.

I mean we have a law here that medical information is supplied in the format
of choice made by the patient, yet its flouted on a massive scale and as
there is no legal aid available for such cases they ge away with driving a
coach and horses through the law and the government turn a blind eye. It
seems much the same game is going on in the software world.
Brian

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Hi Sandra,
On December 31, 2017 8:33:02 AM "Sandra Pilz" <sandra914481@...>
wrote:

"For the new job I started this year, I can only use NVDA, because JAWS
will crash when I log into the web interface I am required to use."

I had this same experience when applying to a call centre job last year.
Hopefully your employer puts something into nvda on your behalf, since it
seems to be useful in these situations. It shouldn't matter which screen
reader you use to access web databases, but I and others have experienced
that nvda as a baseline works while jaws does not.


"However, I agree with Gene. JAWS is more easily configurable by the
user. You can label graphics, you can assign window classes and see if
that makes a program work more smoothly with NVDA, you can assign
application specific hotkeys. I am not so sure if the JAWS frames
feature still works so well under Windows 10. I just tried it recently
without success.
"

This is one area where I disagree. Not that jaws has the features or that
they are useful, but that they belong in NVDA. I believe that it is the
responsibility of developers to label their graphics and controls, draw
and
class their windows and controls properly, and build keyboard/touchscreen
support for their apps properly. This is increasingly required by law,
imposed by societal change, taught as programming best practice, and
demonstrably beneficial beyond the needs of disability communities.
Unfortunately, it's not all there yet, but within the next three years, it
will become legally and socially inacceptable to build software without
regard for accessibility standards, just as you wouldn't build out with no
regard for UI, performance, security, and other common standards and best
practices. I believe the development philosophy of NVDA is based on this.
A screen reader should read the screen, conveying the information already
provided in accessible format, doing as little interpretation as possible.
There's a school of thought on the list that says we should go to any
length to bash information into shape: install and try to use every screen
reader on the market for it's best task, build out features like rendering
images of text into passably readable format, and so on. I miss the days
of hitting a button and getting graphics labeled myself, but in the
current
legal, social, and economic situation, it just makes more sense to push
developers into programming best practice rather than re-invent the old,
expensive, not quite totally effective, way of doing things.

"Also, for me the question is not only can I do something with a screen
reader, but also how quickly can I do what I need to do. One example for
me is the text analysing feature of JAWS in MS Word. I think it helps a
lot when writing a document and checking the formatting. I can do this
with NVDA, too, but it takes a lot longer. The JAWS text analyser or
whatever they call it just checks the document for me and allows me to
see where unexpected formatting or characters have been found. I then
can check whether they are intended or not and make corrections. And it
is so much quicker to do it that way than to read the entire document
with NVDA reporting all attributes selectable in the document dialogue
of NVDA. And additionally, the latter method is so monotonous that there
is the risk of not catching all of the formatting problems."

I have to agree with you here. I am starting in on a computer programming
diploma, and having to build visually appealing user interfaces. It would
be fantastic to have an add-on that would do some intense format, layout,
style, information presented in a way that I could quickly make sure
certin
things look proper. Maybe I'll take this on as we're coming into python
in
winter semester. To me, this is a perfect example of the kind of thing a
screen reader should do.

"What would be the legal status for NVDA extensions written by a third
party to make a specific program more accessible? If the would they be
allowed to sell them? probably not, because NVDA is free. What would be
the incentive for them to develop these extensions for rarely used
software if they can only bill the hours once?"

I am not a lawyer and I haven'tttt read the developer documentation, but I
don't see why enterprise developers couldn't charge for add-ons. In fact,
now that I think of it, many of the voice synthesizer add-ons are paid
products.

"I'm just wondering if this could be
another reason why JAWS is chosen for the workplace more often than NVDA."

No, I think it has more to do with politics and the old paradigm than
anything else. When I was testing accessibility for that call centre job
last year, I was told that the company had python programmers in house.
They seemed to be willing to script their own bolt-ons in house. I'm
guessing this represented a huge cost savings, as I've heard quotes for
jaws scripting from $150 per hour up to $150 per line of code.

Now suppose that this call centre approached an old paradigm so called
access technology specialist company and asked for consulting on how to
accebilitize their IT infrestructure. What would the specialist say?
"install NVDA for free and pay us $150 per hour to write python"? or,
"install a floating licence of jaws for five grand, then pay us $150 per
line for proprietary scripts. Then buy future proofing to keep your at
and
it's scripts up-to-date". I think the second is more likely. The first
is
more stable, more long term sustainable, less proprietary, and cheeper,
but
the second is in line with the self-interest of the AT consultant.


"I think thanks to object navigation, NVDA could have a superior feature
to JAWS' being able to read frames. It would be cool if we were able to
specify a screen object, and then tell NVDA what we want it to do with
the object: read it whenever content changes, leftclick or rightclick it
and probably more. Frames in JAWS only worked if screen resolution
didn't change. If the actions were tied to an object and not a frame
thus not dependent on its dimensions on the screen, the configuration
could work for different people with different screen resolutions.
"

Right again, although this might already be possible. If not, it should
end up in an add-on one of these days. But again, for the vast majority
of
things, we expect the developer to develop and the screen reader to read
the screen. Reading specific sections of busy screens at a touch would be
super handy, but if your developer did their keyboard support properly,
there would be few if any instances of requiring some one to access
features exclusively with a mouse.


Best

Sandra






Am 23.12.2017 um 23:52 schrieb Gene:
You can't label graphics, you can't create frames and there is no
adjustment of the screen echo. There is also no way to skip baqck and
forward by line when the screen echo is set to all or when using read
to end and have speech continue. If these abilities were present, as
far as I know, that would make NVDA as user configurable as JAWS and
Window-eyes. These are important lacks in NVDA.
Gene
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*Sent:* Saturday, December 23, 2017 2:34 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] I'm dissappointed

This is not correct. NVDA is well adjustable, even much easier than jaws.



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 23.12.2017 um 03:47 schrieb Gene <gsasner@...
<mailto:gsasner@...>>:

You can't do what I could do when I used Pine with a shell account a
long time ago. I didn't need to create any frames or scripts. All I
had to do was set the screen echo of JAWS to all, open a message, and
then use the jaws skip line wile reading feature, right shift, to
very quickly jump to the start of the message body. Even if NVDA
reads such material when it appears on screen, you either listen to
everything or nothing and use the tedious read by line screen review
option. Hardly a convenient or reasonable way to go through thirty
e-mails.
Like it or not, NVDA isn't user definable. You can't label graphics
and you can't create frames. These are serious deficiencies even if
many of us don't need such options.
And you can't set the screen echo to all and then do what I did, as I
described. This may be an important ability for some users.
Gene
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*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] I'm dissappointed

Hi

I concur. I firmly believe that NVDA can do most, if not all, the
things more expensive programs can do. With some very rare
exceptions. There are still some apps that require jfw with specific
scripts to be usable, but as time goes on those apps will dwindle
until there are none left. But for 99 percent of people, NVDA can
work for them, either alone or in combination with narrator, which
has gotten quite good. I don’t really set much store by such
presentations, as the few I’ve bothered to listen to gloss over the
free options as if they’re not there, are not worth mentioning or
aren’t good enough. This applies to NVDA as well as open source
operating systems like Linux. I have not listened to the presentation
people are talking about, so I don’t want to ruffle any feathers, but
as a rule I don’t listen to them. They tend to unilaterally insist
that only the paid apps are worth using. Except for the NVDA
podcasts. Those are great, although I don’t follow those either. I’m
just a user. I use NVDA on a daily basis and have found very little
that it can’t do. If it can’t navigate an app by the usual methods,
tab, shift tab, arrows, then it can by either touch, if you have a
touch screen or object navigation.Even when I was using Linux full
time I would keep up with NVDA’s progress, and NVDA is what
eventually brought me back to using windows again.

Thanks

Kendell Clark

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Windows 10

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<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> on behalf of Don H
<lmddh50@... <mailto:lmddh50@...>>
*Sent:* Friday, December 22, 2017 6:18:54 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] I'm dissappointed
I think that NVDA is just as good or better than any other screen
reader. I think the issue for businesses is the fact that NVDA is open
source thus in their minds less secure.




Re: making IE your default browser

Arlene
 

Hi again! Nevermind. I found the info.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: January-02-18 8:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] making IE your default browser

 

Hi. I’m shopping around for a win ten computer. I need to know how to make IE my default Browser.  Thought someone posted some info on how to do it. I thought I kept the info. I can’t for the life of me find it. How does one make IE the default browser? Thanks and have a good day!


making IE your default browser

Arlene
 

Hi. I’m shopping around for a win ten computer. I need to know how to make IE my default Browser.  Thought someone posted some info on how to do it. I thought I kept the info. I can’t for the life of me find it. How does one make IE the default browser? Thanks and have a good day!


Re: How can I get a previous version of an Add-on?

 

Hi,
If my guess is correct, I'll take a look at what's up and publish the update this Thursday.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 5:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] How can I get a previous version of an Add-on?

I currently have an add-on that does not work correctly in the latest version.
I needed to have the previous version. How can I get this version?
How can I get a GithUb Add-on's page?
thanks in advance
Ângelo Abrantes

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My Documents Opening In Windows Media Player

tonea.ctr.morrow@...
 

It sounds like your default has accidentally gotten changed. Instead of file.docx being associated with Word, it has become associated with media player. You’ll need to reset it back to being associated with Word.

 

One method is to open word and find the associations in the program settings. That location varies depending upon the software version. The method I would use is the second method.

 

Go to any word file. Right click to bring up a context menu. The first item that should appear is Open with Whatever. If that whatever is media player, you have confirmation that the associations have been broken. If it is Word, then the problem is somewhere else.

 

Let’s assume it says Open with Media player. Farther down the list is a sub-menu called Open With. Choose that one. Inside that menu at the very bottom, is the option, “Choose Default Program…”. Needless to say, that’s the selection you want to make. From there, choose Word. Your problem should now be fixed.

 

Of course, I’m running Windows 7 from work, so your mileage may vary. I don’t know if any of the menus changed with Windows 10.

 

IF this works for you, then you have my gratitude. I appreciate the opportunity to help given all the help I’m receiving.

 

Tonea Morrow

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 4:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] My Documents Opening In Windows Media Player

 

Hello:

I am having another unusual and odd problem.

But this problem has nothing to do with NVDA, although I use the screenreader.

Actually, many of my documents are now opening in windows media player.  The documents were created by me in microsoft word, and wordpad, but now they open in windows media player.

I am also having the same problem with some materials Emailed to me.

The attachments are in word document,, but when I attempt to open them, they open in windows media player.

I just can't figure out what this problem is all about.

Please has anyone ever had this problem at any time? how did you resolve it.

Hope to read your response.

Ibrahim.

 

 


How can I get a previous version of an Add-on?

Ângelo Abrantes
 

I currently have an add-on that does not work correctly in the latest version.
I needed to have the previous version. How can I get this version?
How can I get a GithUb Add-on's page?
thanks in advance
Ângelo Abrantes

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Re: Issues with dropbox addon

Fernando Apan
 

Good morning, Bryan.

Oh, I see. Well it's very unfortunate. Then we'll have to wait and see what happen.

Thanks for your responce.


Fernando Apan.

El 02/01/2018 a las 03:14 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escribió:
Well I reported this on Dropbox36, and its now on version 40.xx. Unfortunately this is not the only problem. They seem to have changed a lot of their web site as well making it quite hard to navigate for unexplained reasons with nvda.
Maybe somebody with the knowledge might like to look at this. I have in the past found there  tech help quite good, but they seem, increasingly not to understand where a blind user has issues, which is a little sad.
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2018 3:40 AM
Subject: [nvda] Issues with dropbox addon


Hi Everyone,

First of all, I hope you all are having a great year.

I'm experiensing a very extrainge problem with the firefox addon. It seems it hasn't been updated for a while. When I install it and press NVDA+alt+f I get this message: dropbox not found.

Would you please help me to figure out what could be happening?

Thanks in advance.


Fernando Apan.





Re: Welcome to NVDA 2018: seeking recommendations for one or two professional grade apps to showcase

 

Hi,

One thing I forgot to add: for one of the apps, I’ll also demonstrate contracted braille input.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 3:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: seeking recommendations for one or two professional grade apps to showcase

 

Hi all,

 

An update on Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set: part 4 (web browsing) is about to be published (more on that on a separate thread).

 

As part of the tutorial series, I have a section reserved for showcasing popular applications with NVDA (part 5). At the moment they include:

 

  • Microsoft Office: Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook
  • Universal apps: Microsoft Store, Calculator, Mail, Skype, Windows Defender
  • Command line tools
  • Notepad++
  • Kindle for PC
  • GoldWave
  • StationPlaylist Studio
  • Possibly Microsoft Visual Studio and/or Eclipse
  • Possibly VLC

 

I’d like to feature one or two professional grade apps in the tutorial set. Professional grade apps include not the kind of apps listed above, but rather apps used in corporate environments, schools, other organizational, and professional settings. Examples may include Quicken, Microsoft Access and other software in the similar league.

 

Also, in case people want me to do it, I’d like to try what people consider the most difficult kinds of programs you can give me. These may include programs with no control labels at all, pure graphics and what not (and no, not games). I would like to showcase one or two of these to highlight issues users will face when working with these kinds of applications and provide suggestions to developers in the tutorial, and in case of graphics, a chance to let you see the power of OCR (if it works).

 

For all the apps listed above (including apps I’m requesting), I’ll showcase various techniques you can use to interact with these apps (all in part 5). These will include classic keyboard navigation commands (for majority of cases), as well as object navigation (certain parts of PowerPoint and universal apps), touchscreen and mouse manipulation (for one or two apps including Microsoft Store), review modes and review cursor (command line tools and Notepad++), OCR (for ones filled with graphics with recognizable text), browse mode (Kindle for PC and protected Microsoft Excel workbooks), elements list (Microsoft Office applications) and giving feedback to developers. Some apps will require add-ons, and some cannot be demonstrated due to time constraints or to highlight usage tips or to explain a point or two.

 

If you have suggestions, please send them to me (preferably offlist) by no later than January 4, 2018.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Welcome to NVDA 2018: seeking recommendations for one or two professional grade apps to showcase

 

Hi all,

 

An update on Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set: part 4 (web browsing) is about to be published (more on that on a separate thread).

 

As part of the tutorial series, I have a section reserved for showcasing popular applications with NVDA (part 5). At the moment they include:

 

  • Microsoft Office: Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook
  • Universal apps: Microsoft Store, Calculator, Mail, Skype, Windows Defender
  • Command line tools
  • Notepad++
  • Kindle for PC
  • GoldWave
  • StationPlaylist Studio
  • Possibly Microsoft Visual Studio and/or Eclipse
  • Possibly VLC

 

I’d like to feature one or two professional grade apps in the tutorial set. Professional grade apps include not the kind of apps listed above, but rather apps used in corporate environments, schools, other organizational, and professional settings. Examples may include Quicken, Microsoft Access and other software in the similar league.

 

Also, in case people want me to do it, I’d like to try what people consider the most difficult kinds of programs you can give me. These may include programs with no control labels at all, pure graphics and what not (and no, not games). I would like to showcase one or two of these to highlight issues users will face when working with these kinds of applications and provide suggestions to developers in the tutorial, and in case of graphics, a chance to let you see the power of OCR (if it works).

 

For all the apps listed above (including apps I’m requesting), I’ll showcase various techniques you can use to interact with these apps (all in part 5). These will include classic keyboard navigation commands (for majority of cases), as well as object navigation (certain parts of PowerPoint and universal apps), touchscreen and mouse manipulation (for one or two apps including Microsoft Store), review modes and review cursor (command line tools and Notepad++), OCR (for ones filled with graphics with recognizable text), browse mode (Kindle for PC and protected Microsoft Excel workbooks), elements list (Microsoft Office applications) and giving feedback to developers. Some apps will require add-ons, and some cannot be demonstrated due to time constraints or to highlight usage tips or to explain a point or two.

 

If you have suggestions, please send them to me (preferably offlist) by no later than January 4, 2018.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Using Win10's Mail App

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

That is very like with Outlook Express then.

Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Win10's Mail App


Hi

After opening a message containing an attachment, you will be focused in the message part of the window. Press shift+tab and you will move focus to the attached file, press applications key and a pop-up window opens giving you the option to open or save the attachment.



Cheers

Chris



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of The Gamages
Sent: 1 January 2018 15:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Win10's Mail App



Hello,

Having looked at the tutorial, I find that, while in a message, pressing the Alt key brings up the list of actions, the same as the context menu, it doesn’t bring up the ribbons. Has all this been updated? or is my Mail app messing me about?

I have only just decided to have another go at the mail app in W10, I can do most things, but I can’t save an attatchment, is this in the ribbons?



Comments please?



Best Regards, Jim.



From: Gene New Zealand <mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>

Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 6:30 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Win10's Mail App



Hi



If you go to the following link off my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

Then jump down by headings until you get to the windows 10 mail app section there is a tutorial which was created by David.



Hope it helps.



Gene nz





On 12/30/2017 2:43 PM, Pauline Smith wrote:

Good Evening,

Are any instructions for using Win10's Mail app with NVDA? Thanks and an early wish for a happy new year.

Pauline







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