Re: Foobar 2000 (was RE: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?)
mk360
Hi,
I use foobar2000, it's last stable version is accessible, you can set key commands on the preferences menu (by default many are disabled) it has many plugins to give more functions, for example I use plugins for monkeys audio, an other to cast to chromecast, etc.
I also use VLC, but for music I prefer Foobar2000 wich I feel more accessible.
Regards, mk
El 05/01/2018 a las 19:34, JM Casey
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Re: Welcome to NVDA 2018: get ready to browse the web
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Joseph,
I'm in agreement with David. This time around the tutorial is so much better and you did a much better job of explaining the concepts so that people who are new to NVDA can understand it so much better. I too thought the 2015 tutorial was done very fast. Thank you so much for this new tutorial. I can hardly wait until it's all finished.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 4:02 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: get ready to browse the web
Hi Joseph! I have listened to all of your tutorials for NVDA 2018 sets you have done so far. They are so clear to understand. Your voice and the Voice of NVDA comes through so very loud and clear. You explain the concepts slower, so that beginners will understand what you are saying. All of this, is so much better than the 2015 series. You talked and did tasks so much faster in 2015. In this 2018 tutorial, you take the time to really explain what is going on, and I believe the very beginner can learn a lot from these new tutorials. You explained NVDA and the web so well this time around. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for taking all of the time to do these tutorials. I know that many will learn how to use NVDA from these tutorials. I will recommend them to many people who want to learn NVDA on Facebook Groups that I am on. Thanks, Joseph, and I really appreciate what you are doing. I can’t wait until the entire set of tutorials are finished. I will download them, and put them in a Drop Box account, so I can share them with many people. Take care, and I wish you the very best! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Mário Navarro
Às 17:19 de 02/01/2018, Joseph Lee escreveu:
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Re: Welcome to NVDA 2018: get ready to browse the web
David Moore
Hi Joseph! I have listened to all of your tutorials for NVDA 2018 sets you have done so far. They are so clear to understand. Your voice and the Voice of NVDA comes through so very loud and clear. You explain the concepts slower, so that beginners will understand what you are saying. All of this, is so much better than the 2015 series. You talked and did tasks so much faster in 2015. In this 2018 tutorial, you take the time to really explain what is going on, and I believe the very beginner can learn a lot from these new tutorials. You explained NVDA and the web so well this time around. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for taking all of the time to do these tutorials. I know that many will learn how to use NVDA from these tutorials. I will recommend them to many people who want to learn NVDA on Facebook Groups that I am on. Thanks, Joseph, and I really appreciate what you are doing. I can’t wait until the entire set of tutorials are finished. I will download them, and put them in a Drop Box account, so I can share them with many people. Take care, and I wish you the very best! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Mário Navarro
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 3:18 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: get ready to browse the web
Às 17:19 de 02/01/2018, Joseph Lee escreveu:
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Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
VLC is a necessity imo if you play a lot of videos. If you're only in it for the audio, winamp works as well as ever on my Windows 10 setup, except for automatic database retrieval, which is broken because Winamp no longer has a license rather than because of Windows 10. Only thing to do is try it and see. Results always vary on every system, as this thread illustrates.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene Sent: January 5, 2018 6:41 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp? It does? I like winamp. But if it crashes for win ten. Or can't really be used. I'd learn another player. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jessica D Sent: January-05-18 10:04 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp? Hi, VLC rocks. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angela Delicata Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 12:33 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp? Hi, I use vlc which is pretty good for what I need. Il 05/01/2018 ha scritto:
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Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Foobar? Yes, certainly it will.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: January 5, 2018 6:43 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?
Does it work for win ten?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt Turner
Foobar2000.
On 1/5/2018 6:32 AM, David Griffith wrote:
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Re: Foobar 2000 (was RE: [nvda] What do we like for a media playerbesides Winamp?)
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, David,
I mostly use windows media player but on occasion I have used winamp. A friend of mine sent me his bookmarks for different stations which play in winamp. I have quite a few oldies stations as well as some from the big band era.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 3:23 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Foobar 2000 (was RE: [nvda] What do we like for a media playerbesides Winamp?)
I love VLC media player! It is also a music editor, you can play DVD’s, or just play your music. There are many key commands for VLC. Press spacebar to play and pause, Shift+right arrow to fast forward and rewind a little bit, and press alt+arrow keys and CTRL+arrow keys to do the same by larger amounts. You can access a lot from the menus. VLC has been my favorite media player for two years now! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: John Isige
Me too, or if anybody wants to gives tips on VLC for audio playback, I can try that too. Gom Audio is gone, I loaded albums into it, it started playing, and then pretty much locked up my machine, or at least the keyboard. Nothing would work, not its context menu, Windows key-x, I couldn't switch windows, you name it. So I hit the power button to shut down, rebooted, and uninstalled it. I'm fine setting things up and customizing, but my patience is like zero right now. If it can't even do the basic thing it's supposed to, it's gone.
On 1/5/2018 16:34, JM Casey wrote: > > So the thread here reminded me I wanted to try this out. I’m really > interested in getting this one going. Not sure if it’ll replace winamp > exactly as I’m quite happy with it, but it’ll be nice to have another > audio player that actually works and does everything I want it to. > That stuff from Microsoft just will never cut it, and I never did get > really used to or happy with using VLC for audio playback (still the > only video player for me). > > Looking at their site, I notice there are **loads** of extensions and > plug-ins available. So I ask you foobar users – what are those > essential add-ons that you use or can recommend? > > Also if I remember right from playing with it in my XP days, you > assign the keyboard commands by editing ini files. I assume all of you > have customised the programme quite extensively. Tell me about this, > just so I have a starting point here. What is your setup? > >
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Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?
Arlene
Does it work for win ten?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt Turner
Sent: January-05-18 4:56 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?
Foobar2000.
On 1/5/2018 6:32 AM, David Griffith wrote:
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Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?
Arlene
It does? I like winamp. But if it crashes for win ten. Or can't really be used. I'd learn another player.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jessica D Sent: January-05-18 10:04 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp? Hi, VLC rocks. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angela Delicata Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 12:33 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp? Hi, I use vlc which is pretty good for what I need. Il 05/01/2018 ha scritto:
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Re: Foobar 2000 (was RE: [nvda] What do we like for a media playerbesides Winamp?)
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Hi David.
I do use VLC for my videos and I agree that it’s the best. However, I think the playlist features in Winamp are still more to my liking for audio playback. I also find some of the more complex VLC features a little difficult to use for a screen-reader. Setting the equalizer (especially getting the programme to keep your settings), or synchronising video/audio tracks together, is a bit of a pain, but certainly doable, although I admit to having resorted to sighted assistance a couple of times.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: January 5, 2018 6:23 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Foobar 2000 (was RE: [nvda] What do we like for a media playerbesides Winamp?)
I love VLC media player! It is also a music editor, you can play DVD’s, or just play your music. There are many key commands for VLC. Press spacebar to play and pause, Shift+right arrow to fast forward and rewind a little bit, and press alt+arrow keys and CTRL+arrow keys to do the same by larger amounts. You can access a lot from the menus. VLC has been my favorite media player for two years now! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: John Isige
Me too, or if anybody wants to gives tips on VLC for audio playback, I can try that too. Gom Audio is gone, I loaded albums into it, it started playing, and then pretty much locked up my machine, or at least the keyboard. Nothing would work, not its context menu, Windows key-x, I couldn't switch windows, you name it. So I hit the power button to shut down, rebooted, and uninstalled it. I'm fine setting things up and customizing, but my patience is like zero right now. If it can't even do the basic thing it's supposed to, it's gone.
On 1/5/2018 16:34, JM Casey wrote: > > So the thread here reminded me I wanted to try this out. I’m really > interested in getting this one going. Not sure if it’ll replace winamp > exactly as I’m quite happy with it, but it’ll be nice to have another > audio player that actually works and does everything I want it to. > That stuff from Microsoft just will never cut it, and I never did get > really used to or happy with using VLC for audio playback (still the > only video player for me). > > Looking at their site, I notice there are **loads** of extensions and > plug-ins available. So I ask you foobar users – what are those > essential add-ons that you use or can recommend? > > Also if I remember right from playing with it in my XP days, you > assign the keyboard commands by editing ini files. I assume all of you > have customised the programme quite extensively. Tell me about this, > just so I have a starting point here. What is your setup? > >
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Re: Foobar 2000 (was RE: [nvda] What do we like for a media playerbesides Winamp?)
David Moore
I love VLC media player! It is also a music editor, you can play DVD’s, or just play your music. There are many key commands for VLC. Press spacebar to play and pause, Shift+right arrow to fast forward and rewind a little bit, and press alt+arrow keys and CTRL+arrow keys to do the same by larger amounts. You can access a lot from the menus. VLC has been my favorite media player for two years now! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: John Isige
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 5:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Foobar 2000 (was RE: [nvda] What do we like for a media playerbesides Winamp?)
Me too, or if anybody wants to gives tips on VLC for audio playback, I can try that too. Gom Audio is gone, I loaded albums into it, it started playing, and then pretty much locked up my machine, or at least the keyboard. Nothing would work, not its context menu, Windows key-x, I couldn't switch windows, you name it. So I hit the power button to shut down, rebooted, and uninstalled it. I'm fine setting things up and customizing, but my patience is like zero right now. If it can't even do the basic thing it's supposed to, it's gone.
On 1/5/2018 16:34, JM Casey wrote: > > So the thread here reminded me I wanted to try this out. I’m really > interested in getting this one going. Not sure if it’ll replace winamp > exactly as I’m quite happy with it, but it’ll be nice to have another > audio player that actually works and does everything I want it to. > That stuff from Microsoft just will never cut it, and I never did get > really used to or happy with using VLC for audio playback (still the > only video player for me). > > Looking at their site, I notice there are **loads** of extensions and > plug-ins available. So I ask you foobar users – what are those > essential add-ons that you use or can recommend? > > Also if I remember right from playing with it in my XP days, you > assign the keyboard commands by editing ini files. I assume all of you > have customised the programme quite extensively. Tell me about this, > just so I have a starting point here. What is your setup? > >
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Braille Displays and Multiple Languages/Character Sets
This message may be considered off-topic, but there is really nowhere in particular where I can try to engage those who’ve “been there, done that” (or may be there doing that) with this topic. If the moderator believes this should not be further discussed on the group, then please post with that request. I am happy to receive input either on the group or via private message or e-mail. I may soon be taking on some contract work where one of the questions is what braille display would be best suited for use with foreign (non-English) characters both from an input and output perspective. Since I am sighted and monolingual this particular need is something that’s entirely in the abstract for me. This is definitely a time where input from those who have already encountered this need and tried things out would be invaluable. I would also be curious as to whether those who are dealing with multiple languages where non-English-language character sets are being used have found it useful to use a language-specific keyboard. It certainly makes text entry easier but only if you are able to familiarize yourself with the layout on said keyboard and get as comfortable with it as the keyboard you typically use. I know that these are available as replacements on laptops so I’d have to presume that the external USB keyboard equivalent is available as well. Also, if you as a multi-language computer user are willing to be a part of an “e-mail circle” about this please let me know. This is a time where more input, and possibly conflicting input, is a very good thing provided you can describe how you’ve arrived at your conclusions. It would be great to be the proverbial "fly on the wall" while those with long experience with this need discuss their experiences with each other. This may or may not happen, but I thought I'd ask. --Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1709, Build 16299 (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature) The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. ~ Niels Bohr
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Re: Foobar 2000 (was RE: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?)
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Yeah, I was skeptical about Gom from the start. Glad it works for some people but eh....
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Like winamp used to, it looks like Foobar has pretty extensive support, including a forum you can register too. They apparently just overhauled their user interface. That could be eitehr good or bad for us screen-reader users. So far it's only in the beta releases of the next version though.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige Sent: January 5, 2018 5:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Foobar 2000 (was RE: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?) Me too, or if anybody wants to gives tips on VLC for audio playback, I can try that too. Gom Audio is gone, I loaded albums into it, it started playing, and then pretty much locked up my machine, or at least the keyboard. Nothing would work, not its context menu, Windows key-x, I couldn't switch windows, you name it. So I hit the power button to shut down, rebooted, and uninstalled it. I'm fine setting things up and customizing, but my patience is like zero right now. If it can't even do the basic thing it's supposed to, it's gone. On 1/5/2018 16:34, JM Casey wrote:
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Re: Foobar 2000 (was RE: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?)
John Isige
Me too, or if anybody wants to gives tips on VLC for audio playback, I
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can try that too. Gom Audio is gone, I loaded albums into it, it started playing, and then pretty much locked up my machine, or at least the keyboard. Nothing would work, not its context menu, Windows key-x, I couldn't switch windows, you name it. So I hit the power button to shut down, rebooted, and uninstalled it. I'm fine setting things up and customizing, but my patience is like zero right now. If it can't even do the basic thing it's supposed to, it's gone.
On 1/5/2018 16:34, JM Casey wrote:
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Foobar 2000 (was RE: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?)
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
So the thread here reminded me I wanted to try this out. I’m really interested in getting this one going. Not sure if it’ll replace winamp exactly as I’m quite happy with it, but it’ll be nice to have another audio player that actually works and does everything I want it to. That stuff from Microsoft just will never cut it, and I never did get really used to or happy with using VLC for audio playback (still the only video player for me).
Looking at their site, I notice there are *loads* of extensions and plug-ins available. So I ask you foobar users – what are those essential add-ons that you use or can recommend?
Also if I remember right from playing with it in my XP days, you assign the keyboard commands by editing ini files. I assume all of you have customised the programme quite extensively. Tell me about this, just so I have a starting point here. What is your setup?
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Re: Gom Audio setup.
John Isige
Is there no way to set the audio output device? I have multiple sound cards. I don't see one in either the preferences or the context menus.
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On 1/5/2018 16:05, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Everything in gom player works via context menu, with most common commands having hotkeys assigned to them as well - invoke context menu, and, explore the various submenus, but, space bar toggles playback, arrow keys jump backward and forward, and change volume levels, etc. etc.
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Re: Gom Audio setup.
Jacob Kruger
Everything in gom player works via context menu, with most common commands having hotkeys assigned to them as well - invoke context menu, and, explore the various submenus, but, space bar toggles playback, arrow keys jump backward and forward, and change volume levels, etc. etc.
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On 2018/01/05 23:52, John Isige wrote:
Well, I'm trying Gom Audio, as opposed to the player because I have VLC for video playback. Any tips on setting it up? F5 gets you to general preferences and ctrl-p plays and pauses, but that's about what I know. I have no idea how to set up keyboard shortcuts or change audio output or anything like that, and there appears to be no menus, at least, the alt key brings nothing up. The documentation, at least on their site, is awful and not particularly helpful. But really, accessing all of the preferences or settings or whatever you call it should be all I need to know, since I assume it will give the keyboard shortcuts it has by default.
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Re: Gom Audio setup.
Bobby Vinton
Well I will try to help. All the menus are done by the applications key so just open that program and hit your applications key and every thing you need to set up should be there.
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From: John Isige
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 4:52 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Gom Audio setup.
Well, I'm trying Gom Audio, as opposed to the player because I have VLC for video playback. Any tips on setting it up? F5 gets you to general preferences and ctrl-p plays and pauses, but that's about what I know. I have no idea how to set up keyboard shortcuts or change audio output or anything like that, and there appears to be no menus, at least, the alt key brings nothing up. The documentation, at least on their site, is awful and not particularly helpful. But really, accessing all of the preferences or settings or whatever you call it should be all I need to know, since I assume it will give the keyboard shortcuts it has by default.
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Gom Audio setup.
John Isige
Well, I'm trying Gom Audio, as opposed to the player because I have VLC for video playback. Any tips on setting it up? F5 gets you to general preferences and ctrl-p plays and pauses, but that's about what I know. I have no idea how to set up keyboard shortcuts or change audio output or anything like that, and there appears to be no menus, at least, the alt key brings nothing up. The documentation, at least on their site, is awful and not particularly helpful. But really, accessing all of the preferences or settings or whatever you call it should be all I need to know, since I assume it will give the keyboard shortcuts it has by default.
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Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?
John Isige
No. It crashes. It stops playing audio, Windows says there's a problem
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and it's going to close the program and let me know if there's a solution. You know, crashing. If it was just stuttering every once in a while or something because it was having trouble reading a file fast enough, that would be annoying but I could probably put up with it.
On 1/5/2018 15:29, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
When you say crashes, do you mean it won't play fast enough so gets
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Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?
Bobby Vinton
Well I have not try that format. The company says this player plays every format you can think of
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From: Lino Morales
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 2:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?
All you've mentioned. How about AAC plus? A lot of streams here in the US stream with AAC plus if its a commercial station.
On 1/5/2018 2:49 PM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
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