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Re: New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

 

Hi,

One avenue we can try (and no, not an add-on yet): can you try the following for me and see if it makes a difference:

  1. Open keyboard settings (Control+NVDA+K).
  2. Tab through the dialog until you arrive at the last item prior to OK button. In English, it’ll say, “Handle keys from other applications”, which is a checkbox.
  3. Uncheck the checkbox and press Enter.
  4. Try typing with the stenotype and see if NVDA announces new syllables when entering text and deleting text (for those unfamiliar with it, a stenotype is a chorded keyboard (similar to the braille keyboard in its operation) where you press one or more key combinations to enter text in syllable units).

 

If the above steps work, then we’re done. If not, then please ask the stenotype app developer to contact NV Access and I for consultation work. If NV Access says an add-on is the best route, then I’ll ask the add-ons community to investigate this on your behalf.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniele Casarola
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

 

Hi guys,

I thank you very much for all of your answers, opinions and informations.

First of all sorry for my English, I'll do my best.

Before to enter in details into my needs, in my first post I've aksed if exist some companies on the market which offer scripting services for NVDA. Of course paying for that.

In the next lines I'll try to explain as short and clear as possible the situation. Any kind of suggestion to solve it from people with more experience than me, will be well accepted. I thank you in advance for the patience.

I am a stenographer. I use a steno machine, which is a keyboard, to transcribe registered audio from Court. For those who can see, here's a short video of me, typing on the keyboard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emiCbuMhFxs

On a standard QWERTY keyboard you type letter by letter, while on a steno keyboard you type syllable by syllable, or word by word.

It is much faster. If you are a good stenographer you can type in realtime what a speaker says. Stenographers are also used for realtime subtitling in television.

In Italy I didn't find any other visually impaired person who makes this job. I don't know if it is a specific problem of Italy, but here most of the blind and visually impaired people's job is yet telephone receptionist.

For this reason the Italian National Organisation for Blind and Visually Impaired People I belong to, is interested to share and diffuse this kind of job for those who are interested.

I began to lose seriously my sight on January 2015. So I've left my job and begin to study stenography.

On January 2017 a company hires me and since that moment I'm doing this job. But since three years I'm building and improving a workflow, to make it 100% accessible.

At the moment I can say it is 90% accessible. I miss the last step, and it is the reason of this post and the need of a custom add-on.

Until this job is not 100% accessible me and the Organization I belong, we cannot share and diffuse.

If you run the youtube video above, you can hear the human speaker, and also the NVDA vocalizer voice which repeats what the speaker says, while I'm typing.

The voice helps me to know if what I'm typing is right or not. Of course I should concentrate on two voices at the same time. It is like to listen continuously an echo. After a bit of practice the brain can get used to it.

Basically the main problem is in case I make a mistake. In that situation I press a button on the keyboard which works exactly like an "undo", or a CTRL+Z: it deletes syllable by syllable or word by word.

In this case NVDA is not able to read. So I have audio feedback when I go forward, while typing, but I have not audio feedback when I go backward, while deleting.

In this video I've explained more in detail the issue, maybe it is too long, sorry for that:
https://youtu.be/sa_fYoVhyrc

I've tried different Screen Reader, but NVDA is the only one which gives me audio feedback when I type with a steno machine. JAWS doesn't work. JAWS gives me audio feedback only if I type with a standard QWERTY keyboard.

For this reason this is the first community I ask help.

I've red above NVDA is developed in python language. Also the application I use to convert steno keyboard strokes into words and letters on the screen, is developed in python, and it is open source too.

I thank you very much for reading until the end. If you know any company, or studio, or association, od individual person who can help me to solve this problem, I will appreciate a lot, also JAWS if you think is the best solution.

Daniele.


Re: New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Daniele Casarola
 

Hi guys,

I thank you very much for all of your answers, opinions and informations.

First of all sorry for my English, I'll do my best.

Before to enter in details into my needs, in my first post I've aksed if exist some companies on the market which offer scripting services for NVDA. Of course paying for that.

In the next lines I'll try to explain as short and clear as possible the situation. Any kind of suggestion to solve it from people with more experience than me, will be well accepted. I thank you in advance for the patience.

I am a stenographer. I use a steno machine, which is a keyboard, to transcribe registered audio from Court. For those who can see, here's a short video of me, typing on the keyboard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emiCbuMhFxs

On a standard QWERTY keyboard you type letter by letter, while on a steno keyboard you type syllable by syllable, or word by word.

It is much faster. If you are a good stenographer you can type in realtime what a speaker says. Stenographers are also used for realtime subtitling in television.

In Italy I didn't find any other visually impaired person who makes this job. I don't know if it is a specific problem of Italy, but here most of the blind and visually impaired people's job is yet telephone receptionist.

For this reason the Italian National Organisation for Blind and Visually Impaired People I belong to, is interested to share and diffuse this kind of job for those who are interested.

I began to lose seriously my sight on January 2015. So I've left my job and begin to study stenography.

On January 2017 a company hires me and since that moment I'm doing this job. But since three years I'm building and improving a workflow, to make it 100% accessible.

At the moment I can say it is 90% accessible. I miss the last step, and it is the reason of this post and the need of a custom add-on.

Until this job is not 100% accessible me and the Organization I belong, we cannot share and diffuse.

If you run the youtube video above, you can hear the human speaker, and also the NVDA vocalizer voice which repeats what the speaker says, while I'm typing.

The voice helps me to know if what I'm typing is right or not. Of course I should concentrate on two voices at the same time. It is like to listen continuously an echo. After a bit of practice the brain can get used to it.

Basically the main problem is in case I make a mistake. In that situation I press a button on the keyboard which works exactly like an "undo", or a CTRL+Z: it deletes syllable by syllable or word by word.

In this case NVDA is not able to read. So I have audio feedback when I go forward, while typing, but I have not audio feedback when I go backward, while deleting.

In this video I've explained more in detail the issue, maybe it is too long, sorry for that:
https://youtu.be/sa_fYoVhyrc

I've tried different Screen Reader, but NVDA is the only one which gives me audio feedback when I type with a steno machine. JAWS doesn't work. JAWS gives me audio feedback only if I type with a standard QWERTY keyboard.

For this reason this is the first community I ask help.

I've red above NVDA is developed in python language. Also the application I use to convert steno keyboard strokes into words and letters on the screen, is developed in python, and it is open source too.

I thank you very much for reading until the end. If you know any company, or studio, or association, od individual person who can help me to solve this problem, I will appreciate a lot, also JAWS if you think is the best solution.

Daniele.


Re: Help with NVDA and Google Classroom

Iván Novegil
 

Hello.

I’ve used Google classroom as  student for around two years without problems. The web interface is mostly accesible, although you need to turn on the focus mode in certain dialogs to access some sections or to enhance the experience. Same for the iOS app: it is in certain things less accessible/usable/complete than the web interface, but can be used with VoiceOver without special difficulties.
Note that classroom have certain of its aspects, specially those that involve file sharing,  integrated with GoogleDrive, so probably the user will need also GDrive knowledge.

regards.
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Morning All,

I have a middle school student whos school uses Google Classroom for all email and sharing of information. So, time for me to gain skills. Does anyone know of a good tutorial for doing this that does not involve changing to Google’s screen reader. If not I would love any suggestions from folks who use elements of Google’s suite of programs.

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Re: The length of a stop

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This sounds like a Question for the Synth maker to answer to me.
I really do not know which software decides on the pauses, and whether there is any way on some to insert silent spaces so to speak.
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Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 4:20 PM
Subject: [nvda] The length of a stop


Hi all,

NVDA obviously pauses for commas and full stops (periods) but does anybody have any ideas about how to increase the length of the pause?

I ask because I use NVDA for performing my poetry (I have a rubbish memory so alternate poems I've memorised with ones I use NVDA to perform). 99 percent of the time the regular pauses for comma and full stop are fine, but there are a couple of poems where it'd be great if I could get a double length pause for a full stop, or the combined pause of a full stop followed by a comma.

If I try using such combinations there is no change to the pause and, unless I set punctuation level to none, a line like "This is a test. . To see what happens" actually says “This a test dot To see what happens”. With punctuation level set to none it doesn't say the “dot” but it doesn't pause any longer either.

Just thought I'd ask in case anybody has any ideas for how I could add any extra pausing into the rendition of a line of text using NVDA :)

Thanks,

Giles
(Win10 and NVDA 17.4)


Re: Duplicate messages in my thunderbird email client

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Are these all messages, or just messages from yourself to, say this list and to others.
Google always seems to send back an email to the sender every time you send one, but if this was the case then I'd not expect to see any duplicates from anyone on the list but yourself.
I'll pass this over to other Tbird experts, but are you using Imap or pop3 collection? If its Imap then not a lot you can do about it, but Pop3 should be able to be filtered by rules you set up so the returns go to another folder of your choice.
Note though that I find it very handy to use imap for looking at the raw incoming stream and the spam folders.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 1:50 PM
Subject: [nvda] Duplicate messages in my thunderbird email client


Hello friends,
I am facing a strange issue in my thunderbird email client where i am getting duplicate messages
All the messages in my inbox is followed by a duplicate,
I waas wondering if there was a way to remove duplicate messages from appearing in my inbox?
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Thank you so much 'alvin from singaporre;

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The length of a stop

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi all,

NVDA obviously pauses for commas and full stops (periods) but does anybody have any ideas about how to increase the length of the pause?

I ask because I use NVDA for performing my poetry (I have a rubbish memory so alternate poems I've memorised with ones I use NVDA to perform). 99 percent of the time the regular pauses for comma and full stop are fine, but there are a couple of poems where it'd be great if I could get a double length pause for a full stop, or the combined pause of a full stop followed by a comma.

If I try using such combinations there is no change to the pause and, unless I set punctuation level to none, a line like "This is a test. . To see what happens" actually says “This a test dot To see what happens”. With punctuation level set to none it doesn't say the “dot” but it doesn't pause any longer either.

Just thought I'd ask in case anybody has any ideas for how I could add any extra pausing into the rendition of a line of text using NVDA :)

Thanks,

Giles
(Win10 and NVDA 17.4)


Zeswin and NEC Operator with NVDA

adriani.botez@...
 

Dear all,

Does anybody have any experience with the time recording web based software ZesWin? Does it work with NVDA?

And how about the phone software NEC Operator?


Best
Adriani


Duplicate messages in my thunderbird email client

 

Hello friends,
I am facing a strange issue in my thunderbird email client where i am getting duplicate messages 
All the messages in my inbox is followed by a duplicate,
I waas wondering if there was a way to remove duplicate messages from appearing in my inbox?
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Thank you so much 'alvin from singaporre;

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Firefox 58 beta portable

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I have just taken the archive Jamie sent me, and expanded it in the x86 program files folder and run the firefox.exe file.
Now mostly it seems now to be working, except of course that it disables the navigational sounds extension of course.
The only bit that did not work was the downloads dialogue, ie no files were seen after a download, just unknown reported.
This could of course be because I have not actually registered any dll files for fear of screwing up the version 52 which is installed and probably is sharing the same profile as well. This can be seen as when you ask firefox what its running it will report version 58 beta 64 bit even though its not in the 64 bit program files folder. If you place it in that folder then it will ask to make firefox default and completely disable navigational sounds making it a requirement to reinstall that add on in version 52. If you run it in the 32 bit folder it merely disables it and on the second run of 52 will re enable it. However whatever I did I could not get the download dialogue to be read reliable in my semi portable copy.
I realise I'm sailing a little into uncharted waters here, but thought it worth noting that unlike 57, which refused to work at all in my windows 7 machine this does work, though I fancy its a little slower at times than 52 is, but its hard to be sure without the click sound and page load complete sound for ref.

Hope this helps.
I'm not planning on installing Firefox 58 till we get some sounds on it.
Brian

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Re: Unknown Content in Firefox

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When I had this, I systematically took out all firefox add ons that were still able to run, which seemed to be basically just the ublock origin, everything else was deemed incompatible and deactivated as when I went back I had to re install all of them again.
Brian

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From: "Adriani Botez" <adriani.botez@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox


Tell him he should make sure he is loged in as an admin when removing and reinstalling it. I personally thimk the issue is being caused by a firefox addon or plugin. I am not having this problem on windows 7 sp1. It might be related to the graphic card and the graphic driver, although this is very unprobable because in that case he would have issues in other software as well.

Are there any antivirus restrictions which put firefox in a sandbox or something like that?

Best
Adriani


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 12.01.2018 um 14:58 schrieb Tim Harshbarger <tim.harshbarger.cqwg@statefarm.com>:

I had my colleague check to see if NVDA could access the menu bar in Firefox. He was able to do that and NVDA read the menu items correctly. He also does not experience the problem when he uses Chrome or Internet Explorer 11. We also have other people using NVDA with Firefox 57 and they are not reporting problems. In fact, in a meeting with our team on Wednesday, I asked if anyone else was running into the problem and no one else was. My colleague did say that one of the developers he works with is having the same problem.

He has tried deleting and re-installing both NVDA 2017.4 and Firefox 57 and then re-installing them. He says he believes that removing NVDA didn’t remove everything because when he re-installed it immediately started using the software synthesizer he had previously switched to using. I don’t know if he deleted the Firefox settings when he removed and re-installed Firefox 57—I will mention that to him today.

Based on what everyone has said so far, it doesn’t sound like it should be the DLL’s. However, I may suggest he try options related to the DLL’s (if deleting the Firefox settings doesn’t work) since nothing else has worked so far.

While he can still conduct testing using Chrome and IE, I really want to help him fix it so he can use Firefox—since NVDA and Firefox are the screen reader/browser combination we tend to use as the core of our accessibility testing.only

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

I'm not sure. If the dlls are unregistered, does that cause the same problems in Chrome and Internet Explorer? If so, and if these other browsers work properly, then there would be no point in registering the dll files and my guess about the cause of the problem is incorrect.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

Hi Tim



If it said some thing like unknown under the running programs part on the task bar when you went across the icons or it spoke nothing as you arrowed down the applications menu then i would guess some dlls have been unregistered.


You would also get unknown or pane in your browser or most browsers instead of edge on windows 10.

I do have a page on on my website that may help but do not think it is that bug.

When you uninstalled mozilla fire fox was there any bookmarks you really needed there?

If not some times a uninstall of mozilla fire fox in windows then doing the following will fix the problem.

Press the windows key + letter R then the run dialogue will come up. In it type the following %appdata% then press the enter key. Locate the folder for I am not sure what the foler would be called but on my machine it is called mozilla the folder will have to be deleted out then close the screen with the alt + f4 key. You have just deleted out the settings for mozilla fire fox. I am sure that is what it will be called on your machine.

Now reinstall mozilla fire fox and hopefully that would fix the problem.

I had some ting like that happen a couple of years back only on that program and doing the above fixed it.

If it sounds like the other one mentioned i can put in the steps to fix it if it is that which it does not sound like it is. Just let me know.

Gene nz

On 1/12/2018 2:16 AM, Tim Harshbarger wrote:
Hi,

I have a coworker who needs to be able to use NVDA and Firefox—we use it as part of our accessibility testing. Everyone else seems to be able to use NVDA 2017.3 (or 2017.4) with Firefox 57 with no problems.

However, every time he tries to use NVDA 2017.4 with Firefox 57, NVDA says the content of the page is “unknown”. He says it works ok in Chrome and IE 11. He was also having the problem with NVDA 2017.3.

So far, we have tried de-installing NVDA and re-installing it as well as de-installing Firefox and re-installing it. Neither action fixed the problem.

Has anyone else run into this problem and been able to resolve it? If not, does anyone have any suggestions for what we might try next?

Thanks,
Tim



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Re: Unknown Content in Firefox

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In my case it was basically impossible to go into 'a mode' so to speak though the pull down menus all worked it seemed the main screen was not seen as Mozilla type browser window at all.

I eventually gave up, and back tracked to the esr version, but as in my previous post yesterday, I may try 58 as they obviously have had a few people with that issue and think they have it sussed.
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From: "Adriani Botez" <adriani.botez@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox


Does this issue occur when using NVDA in browse mode? Or only in focus mode? Or both?

Best
Adriani


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 12.01.2018 um 14:58 schrieb Tim Harshbarger <tim.harshbarger.cqwg@statefarm.com>:

I had my colleague check to see if NVDA could access the menu bar in Firefox. He was able to do that and NVDA read the menu items correctly. He also does not experience the problem when he uses Chrome or Internet Explorer 11. We also have other people using NVDA with Firefox 57 and they are not reporting problems. In fact, in a meeting with our team on Wednesday, I asked if anyone else was running into the problem and no one else was. My colleague did say that one of the developers he works with is having the same problem.

He has tried deleting and re-installing both NVDA 2017.4 and Firefox 57 and then re-installing them. He says he believes that removing NVDA didn’t remove everything because when he re-installed it immediately started using the software synthesizer he had previously switched to using. I don’t know if he deleted the Firefox settings when he removed and re-installed Firefox 57—I will mention that to him today.

Based on what everyone has said so far, it doesn’t sound like it should be the DLL’s. However, I may suggest he try options related to the DLL’s (if deleting the Firefox settings doesn’t work) since nothing else has worked so far.

While he can still conduct testing using Chrome and IE, I really want to help him fix it so he can use Firefox—since NVDA and Firefox are the screen reader/browser combination we tend to use as the core of our accessibility testing.only

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

I'm not sure. If the dlls are unregistered, does that cause the same problems in Chrome and Internet Explorer? If so, and if these other browsers work properly, then there would be no point in registering the dll files and my guess about the cause of the problem is incorrect.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

Hi Tim



If it said some thing like unknown under the running programs part on the task bar when you went across the icons or it spoke nothing as you arrowed down the applications menu then i would guess some dlls have been unregistered.


You would also get unknown or pane in your browser or most browsers instead of edge on windows 10.

I do have a page on on my website that may help but do not think it is that bug.

When you uninstalled mozilla fire fox was there any bookmarks you really needed there?

If not some times a uninstall of mozilla fire fox in windows then doing the following will fix the problem.

Press the windows key + letter R then the run dialogue will come up. In it type the following %appdata% then press the enter key. Locate the folder for I am not sure what the foler would be called but on my machine it is called mozilla the folder will have to be deleted out then close the screen with the alt + f4 key. You have just deleted out the settings for mozilla fire fox. I am sure that is what it will be called on your machine.

Now reinstall mozilla fire fox and hopefully that would fix the problem.

I had some ting like that happen a couple of years back only on that program and doing the above fixed it.

If it sounds like the other one mentioned i can put in the steps to fix it if it is that which it does not sound like it is. Just let me know.

Gene nz

On 1/12/2018 2:16 AM, Tim Harshbarger wrote:
Hi,

I have a coworker who needs to be able to use NVDA and Firefox—we use it as part of our accessibility testing. Everyone else seems to be able to use NVDA 2017.3 (or 2017.4) with Firefox 57 with no problems.

However, every time he tries to use NVDA 2017.4 with Firefox 57, NVDA says the content of the page is “unknown”. He says it works ok in Chrome and IE 11. He was also having the problem with NVDA 2017.3.

So far, we have tried de-installing NVDA and re-installing it as well as de-installing Firefox and re-installing it. Neither action fixed the problem.

Has anyone else run into this problem and been able to resolve it? If not, does anyone have any suggestions for what we might try next?

Thanks,
Tim



--

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Re: Using Windows 10 calendar.

David Moore
 

That is a great question, but unfortunately, I can not answer that, because I have never used Google Calendar. I will have to look that up for you.

David Moore

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From: slery
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 4:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Windows 10 calendar.

 

Is it possible to sync with google calendar?

Cindy

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 12:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Windows 10 calendar.

 

Hi!

The Calendar app is very accessible that is built into windows 10.

Just open it, and press Alt+F4 to get into month view, and you can arrow left and right to forward or backward by one day, and up and down arrow to go back a week or ahead a week.

You can just enter on the day, and type your event in there, and press enter.

When you arrow to a day, it will tell you how many events there are for that day. Just start tabbing to each event, and you can press enter to open that event!

It is accessible with all screen readers.

Have a great one,

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Isige
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Windows 10 calendar.

 

Anybody got anything on this? I swear I saw a post about it, unless I'm

confusing it with mail, a while back. At the time I didn't need a

calendar/reminder program, and now I do. I figure if Windows has got

something built in, I may as well try that first.

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Using Windows 10 calendar.

slery <slerythema@...>
 

Okay, apparently I do have them linked but had to do a manual sync. The only thing I am not getting at the moment is getting win calendar to sync everything over to Outlook (just went back to outlook and it now seems like crashing is only limited to viewing the Today window. As long as I only use other folders I can have many open and switch between them and cntrl+y to move to different folders).

Cindy

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 4:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Windows 10 calendar.

its called calendar

You need to go to apps and accounts, link your ms and your google accounts to it to fully use it then you can use that as a sort of shell.




On 12/01/2018 4:53 p.m., John Isige wrote:
Anybody got anything on this? I swear I saw a post about it, unless
I'm confusing it with mail, a while back. At the time I didn't need a
calendar/reminder program, and now I do. I figure if Windows has got
something built in, I may as well try that first.




.


Re: Using Windows 10 calendar.

slery <slerythema@...>
 

Can you give more details? Under accounts it shows my gmail account for both mail and outlook. Under Microsoft it shows my ms account. What am I missing?

Cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 4:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Windows 10 calendar.

its called calendar

You need to go to apps and accounts, link your ms and your google accounts to it to fully use it then you can use that as a sort of shell.




On 12/01/2018 4:53 p.m., John Isige wrote:
Anybody got anything on this? I swear I saw a post about it, unless
I'm confusing it with mail, a while back. At the time I didn't need a
calendar/reminder program, and now I do. I figure if Windows has got
something built in, I may as well try that first.




.


Re: Using Windows 10 calendar.

slery <slerythema@...>
 

Is it possible to sync with google calendar?

Cindy

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 12:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Windows 10 calendar.

 

Hi!

The Calendar app is very accessible that is built into windows 10.

Just open it, and press Alt+F4 to get into month view, and you can arrow left and right to forward or backward by one day, and up and down arrow to go back a week or ahead a week.

You can just enter on the day, and type your event in there, and press enter.

When you arrow to a day, it will tell you how many events there are for that day. Just start tabbing to each event, and you can press enter to open that event!

It is accessible with all screen readers.

Have a great one,

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Isige
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Windows 10 calendar.

 

Anybody got anything on this? I swear I saw a post about it, unless I'm

confusing it with mail, a while back. At the time I didn't need a

calendar/reminder program, and now I do. I figure if Windows has got

something built in, I may as well try that first.

 

 

 

 


Re: internet problem

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon:  I've been gone on vacation and just saw this message, so, It's possible has already given this solution.  Has this party tried resetting the modem?
Insider Dave

On 12/31/2017 8:51 PM, MJW wrote:
Sounds more like a problem with your Internet connection (than an NVDA
glitch). Have you tried the usual tests to ensure you are connected
up properly? have you, for example, got another device such as a
smart phone or a tablet PC with which you could test your Internet
connection as well?
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
Best, Matt.


On 01/01/2018, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi list

I wonder if someone can help me please.

Evrytime I'm trying to access the internet it is telling me that surfer is
not found. Besides that it is mentioning the proxy and firewall. Which it
is
something that I don't know anything about it.

I hope that somebody would be able to explain to me what I should please.

Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: Unknown Content in Firefox

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Tim


The other thing some people have done is removed fire fox 57 and gone back to the fire fox esr version which can be found at https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/

While fire fox is ironing out some little problems with the new quantom version some have gone back to this veersion. my self  I am using 58 more for testing.


If you want to uninstall nvda completely so there is no trace but you should not have to.


Is uninstall nvda as usual through what ever it is for add remove programs in the control panel.


When done then do the following this will remove your settings for nvda completely.


Press the windows key + letter r then type in %appdata% then press the enter key.
when the roaming folders part comes up locate the nvda folder and delete it out then close the window. I do not think you have to reboot but can be safe and do so.

Then it is a matter of reinstalling nvda in most cases it will fix most problems but i have only done it once or twice in say years since i have used nvda.
In my case because i am not sighted i would use narrator to do this step but if you are sighted  then there is no need to use narrator.

Gene nz

On 1/13/2018 2:58 AM, Tim Harshbarger wrote:

I had my colleague check to see if NVDA could access the menu bar in Firefox.  He was able to do that and NVDA read the menu items correctly. He also does not experience the problem when he uses Chrome or Internet Explorer 11. We also have other people using NVDA with Firefox 57 and they are not reporting problems. In fact, in a meeting with our team on Wednesday, I asked if anyone else was running into the problem and no one else was. My colleague did say that one of the developers he works with is having the same problem.

 

He has tried deleting and re-installing both NVDA 2017.4 and Firefox 57 and then re-installing them. He says he believes that removing NVDA didn’t remove everything because when he re-installed it immediately started using the software synthesizer he had previously switched to using. I don’t know if he deleted the Firefox settings when he removed and re-installed Firefox 57—I will mention that to him today.

 

Based on what everyone has said so far, it doesn’t sound like it should be the DLL’s.  However, I may suggest he try options related to the DLL’s (if deleting the Firefox settings doesn’t work) since nothing else has worked so far.

 

While he can still conduct testing using Chrome and IE, I really want to help him fix it so he can use Firefox—since NVDA and Firefox are the screen reader/browser combination we tend to use as the core of our accessibility testing.only

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

 

I'm not sure.  If the dlls are unregistered, does that cause the same problems in Chrome and Internet Explorer?  If so, and if these other browsers work properly, then there would be no point in registering the dll files and my guess about the cause of the problem is incorrect. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

 

Hi Tim

 

If it said some thing like unknown under the running programs part on the task bar when you went across the icons or it spoke nothing as you arrowed down the applications menu then i would guess some dlls have been unregistered.


You would also get unknown or pane in your browser or most browsers instead of edge on windows 10.

I do have a page on on my website that may help but do not think it is that bug.

When you uninstalled mozilla fire fox was there any bookmarks you really needed there?

If not some times a uninstall of mozilla fire fox in windows then doing the following will fix the problem.

Press the windows key + letter R then the run dialogue will come up. In it type the following %appdata% then press the enter key. Locate the folder for I am not sure what the foler would be called but on my machine it is called mozilla the folder will have to be deleted out then close the screen with the alt + f4 key. You have just deleted out the settings for mozilla fire fox. I am sure that is what it will be called on your machine.

Now reinstall mozilla fire fox and hopefully that would fix the problem.

I had some ting like that happen a couple of years back only on that program and doing the above fixed it.

If it sounds like the other one mentioned i can put in the steps to fix it if it is that which it does not sound like it is. Just let me know.

Gene nz
 

On 1/12/2018 2:16 AM, Tim Harshbarger wrote:

Hi,

 

I have a coworker who needs to be able to use NVDA and Firefox—we use it as part of our accessibility testing. Everyone else seems to be able to use NVDA 2017.3 (or 2017.4) with Firefox 57 with no problems.

 

However, every time he tries to use NVDA 2017.4 with Firefox 57, NVDA says the content of the page is “unknown”. He says it works ok in Chrome and IE 11. He was also having the problem with NVDA 2017.3.

 

So far, we have tried de-installing NVDA and re-installing it as well as de-installing Firefox and re-installing it. Neither action fixed the problem.

 

Has anyone else run into this problem and been able to resolve it?  If not, does anyone have any suggestions for what we might try next?

 

Thanks,

Tim

 

 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Unknown Content in Firefox

Adriani Botez
 

Does this issue occur when using NVDA in browse mode? Or only in focus mode? Or both?

Best
Adriani


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 12.01.2018 um 14:58 schrieb Tim Harshbarger <tim.harshbarger.cqwg@...>:

I had my colleague check to see if NVDA could access the menu bar in Firefox.  He was able to do that and NVDA read the menu items correctly. He also does not experience the problem when he uses Chrome or Internet Explorer 11. We also have other people using NVDA with Firefox 57 and they are not reporting problems. In fact, in a meeting with our team on Wednesday, I asked if anyone else was running into the problem and no one else was. My colleague did say that one of the developers he works with is having the same problem.

 

He has tried deleting and re-installing both NVDA 2017.4 and Firefox 57 and then re-installing them. He says he believes that removing NVDA didn’t remove everything because when he re-installed it immediately started using the software synthesizer he had previously switched to using. I don’t know if he deleted the Firefox settings when he removed and re-installed Firefox 57—I will mention that to him today.

 

Based on what everyone has said so far, it doesn’t sound like it should be the DLL’s.  However, I may suggest he try options related to the DLL’s (if deleting the Firefox settings doesn’t work) since nothing else has worked so far.

 

While he can still conduct testing using Chrome and IE, I really want to help him fix it so he can use Firefox—since NVDA and Firefox are the screen reader/browser combination we tend to use as the core of our accessibility testing.only

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

 

I'm not sure.  If the dlls are unregistered, does that cause the same problems in Chrome and Internet Explorer?  If so, and if these other browsers work properly, then there would be no point in registering the dll files and my guess about the cause of the problem is incorrect. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

 

Hi Tim

 

If it said some thing like unknown under the running programs part on the task bar when you went across the icons or it spoke nothing as you arrowed down the applications menu then i would guess some dlls have been unregistered.


You would also get unknown or pane in your browser or most browsers instead of edge on windows 10.

I do have a page on on my website that may help but do not think it is that bug.

When you uninstalled mozilla fire fox was there any bookmarks you really needed there?

If not some times a uninstall of mozilla fire fox in windows then doing the following will fix the problem.

Press the windows key + letter R then the run dialogue will come up. In it type the following %appdata% then press the enter key. Locate the folder for I am not sure what the foler would be called but on my machine it is called mozilla the folder will have to be deleted out then close the screen with the alt + f4 key. You have just deleted out the settings for mozilla fire fox. I am sure that is what it will be called on your machine.

Now reinstall mozilla fire fox and hopefully that would fix the problem.

I had some ting like that happen a couple of years back only on that program and doing the above fixed it.

If it sounds like the other one mentioned i can put in the steps to fix it if it is that which it does not sound like it is. Just let me know.

Gene nz
 

On 1/12/2018 2:16 AM, Tim Harshbarger wrote:

Hi,

 

I have a coworker who needs to be able to use NVDA and Firefox—we use it as part of our accessibility testing. Everyone else seems to be able to use NVDA 2017.3 (or 2017.4) with Firefox 57 with no problems.

 

However, every time he tries to use NVDA 2017.4 with Firefox 57, NVDA says the content of the page is “unknown”. He says it works ok in Chrome and IE 11. He was also having the problem with NVDA 2017.3.

 

So far, we have tried de-installing NVDA and re-installing it as well as de-installing Firefox and re-installing it. Neither action fixed the problem.

 

Has anyone else run into this problem and been able to resolve it?  If not, does anyone have any suggestions for what we might try next?

 

Thanks,

Tim

 

 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Unknown Content in Firefox

Adriani Botez
 

Tell him he should make sure he is loged in as an admin when removing and reinstalling it. I personally thimk the issue is being caused by a firefox addon or plugin. I am not having this problem on windows 7 sp1. It might be related to the graphic card and the graphic driver, although this is very unprobable because in that case he would have issues in other software as well.

Are there any antivirus restrictions which put firefox in a sandbox or something like that?

Best
Adriani


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 12.01.2018 um 14:58 schrieb Tim Harshbarger <tim.harshbarger.cqwg@...>:

I had my colleague check to see if NVDA could access the menu bar in Firefox.  He was able to do that and NVDA read the menu items correctly. He also does not experience the problem when he uses Chrome or Internet Explorer 11. We also have other people using NVDA with Firefox 57 and they are not reporting problems. In fact, in a meeting with our team on Wednesday, I asked if anyone else was running into the problem and no one else was. My colleague did say that one of the developers he works with is having the same problem.

 

He has tried deleting and re-installing both NVDA 2017.4 and Firefox 57 and then re-installing them. He says he believes that removing NVDA didn’t remove everything because when he re-installed it immediately started using the software synthesizer he had previously switched to using. I don’t know if he deleted the Firefox settings when he removed and re-installed Firefox 57—I will mention that to him today.

 

Based on what everyone has said so far, it doesn’t sound like it should be the DLL’s.  However, I may suggest he try options related to the DLL’s (if deleting the Firefox settings doesn’t work) since nothing else has worked so far.

 

While he can still conduct testing using Chrome and IE, I really want to help him fix it so he can use Firefox—since NVDA and Firefox are the screen reader/browser combination we tend to use as the core of our accessibility testing.only

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

 

I'm not sure.  If the dlls are unregistered, does that cause the same problems in Chrome and Internet Explorer?  If so, and if these other browsers work properly, then there would be no point in registering the dll files and my guess about the cause of the problem is incorrect. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

 

Hi Tim

 

If it said some thing like unknown under the running programs part on the task bar when you went across the icons or it spoke nothing as you arrowed down the applications menu then i would guess some dlls have been unregistered.


You would also get unknown or pane in your browser or most browsers instead of edge on windows 10.

I do have a page on on my website that may help but do not think it is that bug.

When you uninstalled mozilla fire fox was there any bookmarks you really needed there?

If not some times a uninstall of mozilla fire fox in windows then doing the following will fix the problem.

Press the windows key + letter R then the run dialogue will come up. In it type the following %appdata% then press the enter key. Locate the folder for I am not sure what the foler would be called but on my machine it is called mozilla the folder will have to be deleted out then close the screen with the alt + f4 key. You have just deleted out the settings for mozilla fire fox. I am sure that is what it will be called on your machine.

Now reinstall mozilla fire fox and hopefully that would fix the problem.

I had some ting like that happen a couple of years back only on that program and doing the above fixed it.

If it sounds like the other one mentioned i can put in the steps to fix it if it is that which it does not sound like it is. Just let me know.

Gene nz
 

On 1/12/2018 2:16 AM, Tim Harshbarger wrote:

Hi,

 

I have a coworker who needs to be able to use NVDA and Firefox—we use it as part of our accessibility testing. Everyone else seems to be able to use NVDA 2017.3 (or 2017.4) with Firefox 57 with no problems.

 

However, every time he tries to use NVDA 2017.4 with Firefox 57, NVDA says the content of the page is “unknown”. He says it works ok in Chrome and IE 11. He was also having the problem with NVDA 2017.3.

 

So far, we have tried de-installing NVDA and re-installing it as well as de-installing Firefox and re-installing it. Neither action fixed the problem.

 

Has anyone else run into this problem and been able to resolve it?  If not, does anyone have any suggestions for what we might try next?

 

Thanks,

Tim

 

 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!

 

hi brian i completely agree with you about problems of skype.
skype is getting more useless and problematic every day and i
uninstalled it completely and could not sign in anymore after
reinstallation.
i even could not use gw connect which i used in the past.
do you mean that microsoft changed the protocols and gw never works
again and even skype classic is never available in the future?
as you know, i realy hate updating forceable specially for updating
just for update like skype without any useful feature or
understandable and important change!
i did not see any program except skype and microsoft to force the
users for update!
hi shaun.
i completely agree that we should use our own desires without force.
i heard that one company make laptops and does not obey the rule of
just updating!
they releases drivers for different operating systems and dont forget
the old ones. the company is fujitsu.

On 1/10/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
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Well Firefox has been added to the firestick, but I believe Amazon has
agreed to sell chrome based devices now, so where is the problem. I'm
suspicious that Amazons system may well hijack Googles data collection so
their devices won't let google earn money.
Its all awfully silly and counter productive for all parties.
The only certain thing in the future is that broadband prices or
subscriptions to paid services will go up as the people who own the internet

need to be able to have an income to create more capacity and bandwidth and

renew old stuff. One way or the other somebody has to pay.
Brian

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From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


Yeah and its getting worse, I just read into an article, aparently google

and amazon are having a fistfight.

So if it spreads we will have a virtual ww3 on our hands everyone is
chucking nukes about, no one knows why they are fighting anymore.




On 10/01/2018 7:45 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No its all a cunning plot. First Firefox now Skype.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharni-Lee Ward"
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


It really sucks for us especially and I am tempted to yell at somebody
until they listen to us. We can't use Skype the way it is now. I
thought
Accessibility was supposed to be getting better!


On 9/01/2018 8:33 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes I mentioned this in another thread, but of course that would mean
that much more effort would be required to write software and decide
what front ends to support etc.
To me, currently Skype and for that matter universal apps has lost the
plot in that they are not universal at all as writers can make them
all look completely different, when at least in classic windows one
knew you had a menu bar toolbars etc, and not this apparent throw
everything up in the air and where it drops is where it stays muddle
we have now.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


It does.

I have switched all my users to skype universal to keep the software
updated but to be honest skype classic is in the tablets section so
unless ms decides that windows tablets need to update to universal to
which they will probably do eventually then maybe.

At any rate even if skype does die, they will have to change the
minimal version on server to have it not even work and they only just
did that last year and that was for 7.2 and older, up to this point
you could probably still work with 6 or 5 or 4 or even 3 maybe not 2
but even so, who knows.

This new skype 8 will last till the end of win 8x at any rate.

It would be good if ms let us blinks use our own windows desktops,
shells and interfaces for their cores so we could use their stuff
without their junk.




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wrote:
I think the question has to be, does the old version of Skype, the
one used by windows 7, install OK on 10, and if it does why do we
need the new one?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee"
<joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2018 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


Hi,
The universal Skype app is the Windows 10 version of Skype.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ann
Byrne
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2018 1:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!

What is the universal skype app???
At 03:03 PM 1/7/2018, you wrote:

I use Skype for WIN 10 also. Their is nothing wrong with it. Don't
knock it till you try it guys.

On 1/6/2018 10:50 PM, David Moore wrote:
I use the universal Skype app all the time.
Tabbing three or four times, is not that bad, along with some key
commands. I can find what I want quicker than I can with the
desktop
program. NVDA really works well with the Skype app. That is
awesome.
Have a great one, guys!
Sent from <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>Mail for
Windows 10
From: <mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 10:12 PM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!
Â
Hi,
Skype universal app does have shortcut keys, such as Alt+1 to go
to
conversations, Alt+2 for contacts, Alt+3 for bots and so on).
Cheers,
Joseph
Â
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[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 6:56 PM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!
Â
That's such a slugish and obnoxious way to navigate a programme,
really. Come on Microsoft.
Â
Â
Â
-----Original Message-----
From:
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: January 6, 2018 9:52 PM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!
Â
In the new Windows app thing? Sure. In fact I think it's the only
way
to use it really.
Â
Â
On 1/6/2018 20:28, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
Â
Can you still tab around Skype like normal, though? I'm curious,
because I've never really used keyboard shortcuts. Just menus and
tabbing between options.
Â
Â
On 7/01/2018 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Â
Awesome. It's gone. Thanks. I'll go install the classic version
here in a bit.
Â
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On 1/6/2018 9:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Â
OK, I didn't think it worked that way for universal apps.
Â
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I'll give it a try.
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On 1/6/2018 8:58 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:
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The same way you uninstall any program:
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Press your Windows key and type remove  Arrow down to "Add
and
Remove Programs and press Enter  Arrow down to Skype in the
list of programs  Press your applications key and arrow
down to
remove and press Enter    On 1/6/2018 7:38 PM,
Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
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So then, I guess my next question would be how to
uninstall the
universal version within Windows 10. I guess Google's to the
rescue. LOL!
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On 1/6/2018 6:49 PM, iván Novegil wrote:
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Yes, installer downloaded from both links works with
windows10.
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Skype forces to use Universal app only in 8.x. I could
install
7.x (version downloadable from the two links sent) in Win10
without problems some weeks ago.
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Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with
Windows 10
as well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of
Skype.
Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely
don't
prefer it.
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I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people
seem to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I
can get that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10,
and
get rid of the classic version, that would be fantastic!
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On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Rich,
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Remove your current skype installation and install the
skype
classic version from this link: If you do not remove the
old
installation, you will get two skype
versions after installation of the classic version.
<http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full>http://www.skype.com/go/getsky
pe-full
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Regards, Marten
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000
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der.co.uk@groups.io>Â
wrote:
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I've never had it force an update on
windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
  I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been
a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I
hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the
tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back
afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
  Brian
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Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete
Disaster!
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I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years.
Suddenly, tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I
entered
Skype, a new version was forcibly installed, something
like
Version 8.1.2, and it presented me with an interface
that I
could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the shortcut keys
that I previously used would work. I received a call
from a
friend right after this forced installation and could not
answer it, because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for
answering a call was useless, as were all other previous
shortcut keys. What is the solution to this problem. I
totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA
users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?
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