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Re: A note to all xp users here.

Gene

#33987

Clamwin is poorly reviewed and it gets such poor ratings that I wouldn't bother unless there is no alternative. Old versions of Avast still run in XP and, while not nearly as accessible as desirable, can be used. The new version looked to me not to be accessible enough to use. I won't go into Avast more now. I will if people are interested. You can still get old versions.

Gene

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From: Antony Stone

Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:37 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] A note to all xp users here.

ClanWin does indeed run under (to quote from their website
http://www.clamwin.com ): "Microsoft Windows 10 / 8 / 7 / Vista / XP / Me /
2000 / 98 and Windows Server 2012, 2008 and 2003".

However (also quoting from their website): "Please note that ClamWin Free
Antivirus does not include an on-access real-time scanner. You need to
manually scan a file in order to detect a virus or spyware."

This in my opinion makes it rather less useful than many other anti-virus
scanners, however if your choice is limited to whatever will still run under
XP, then maybe it's a good enough compromise.

Antony.

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 13:31:13, Josh Kennedy wrote:

> maybe clamWin will work? it is free antivirus.

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Re: A note to all xp users here.

Gene

#33986

Clamwin gets very poor ratings in reviews.

Gene.

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From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:31 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] A note to all xp users here.

maybe clamWin will work? it is free antivirus.

Re: About nvda add-on

Antony Stone

#33985

https://addons.nvda-project.org/devDocs/devDocs.en.html would be a good start.

Antony.

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On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 13:34:34, Narayan wrote:

Hi friends, I want to know about writing nvda add -on.. how can I write
script for nvda ad-on. what is the basic knowledge for this.  if anyone can
answer this topic. please help me what instruction should I get to prepare
a nvda  addon. thanks in advance. Shree.

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Re: A note to all xp users here.

Antony Stone

#33984

ClanWin does indeed run under (to quote from their website 
http://www.clamwin.com ): "Microsoft Windows 10 / 8 / 7 / Vista / XP / Me / 
2000 / 98 and Windows Server 2012, 2008 and 2003".

However (also quoting from their website): "Please note that ClamWin Free 
Antivirus does not include an on-access real-time scanner. You need to 
manually scan a file in order to detect a virus or spyware."

This in my opinion makes it rather less useful than many other anti-virus 
scanners, however if your choice is limited to whatever will still run under 
XP, then maybe it's a good enough compromise.


Antony.

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On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 13:31:13, Josh Kennedy wrote:

maybe clamWin will work? it is free antivirus.

-- 
It is also possible that putting the birds in a laboratory setting 
inadvertently renders them relatively incompetent.

 - Daniel C Dennett

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About nvda add-on

Narayan <krishnashree1221@...>

#33983

Hi friends, I want to know about writing nvda add -on.. how can I write script for nvda ad-on. what is the basic knowledge for this.  if anyone can answer this topic. please help me what instruction should I get to prepare a nvda  addon. thanks in advance. Shree.

Re: A note to all xp users here.

Josh Kennedy

#33982

maybe clamWin will work? it is free antivirus.

Re: New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Sandra Pilz

#33981

Hi Daniele and all,

When you are in the application you work in and press ctrl+backspace on the normal keyboard, if one is available, does NVDA speak the word that has been deleted?

ctrl+backspace usually deletes the last word and in most applications NVDA will speak the word it deletes.

Maybe if this works, you could assign ctrl+backspace to a keystroke on your keyboard? Of course, this would mean that you always delete the entire word and not just the last sylable you wrote, but maybe it would be ok to write the entire word again?

Maybe you have thought of ctrl+backspace already, unfortunately I am not a developer so can't really help with a solution.

Best

Sandra

Am 16.01.2018 um 20:09 schrieb Didier Colle:

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Dear Danielle,

Thanks for the info.

From a programming point of view it is a pity only a series of backspaces is sent....

Given the fact we are speaking about steno, and steno is all about speed, I have following question to you:

would it be acceptable to you that individual letters are completely spoken out when they are deleted? Not very ideal from a speed perscpective (user experience), but from a programming point of view perhaps a reliable solution could be worked out.

Otherwise, I guess we would need a mechanism to detect when the sequence of generated backspaces is over (and not waiting for the next key stroke): my first simplistic idea would be using a hold-off timer going off, but that is probably not a very reliable solution. (if I remember well from your video with steno you do 300 wpm or 5 words per sec or 200 millisec per word, counting 3 or 4 syllables per word means max 50 millisec per syllable or keystroke... that is pretty tight).

An alternative would be to create a plover plugin to be plugged in into nvda, that creates a backdoor open to plover in order to let plover instruct nvda to speak the complete syllable being deleted; obviously the plover code should be modified to give nvda this instrucction via this backdoor. At the positive side, I believe it would work more reliably and simpler to implement; at the negative side, I dislike this option as it requires code on both the nvda and plover side and I am not in favour of creating backdoors.

Please let me know what your opinion as user on the above question is / what behavior you exactly would expect.

Kind regards,

Didier

On 16/01/2018 18:30, Daniele Casarola wrote:

Sorry Joseph Lee, I don't have your contact, I can't ask to add you CC. Can you leave it here? Thanks.

Thank you Didier Colle for your question.

This is the answer of one of the Plover developer:

"When undoing a translation, a series of backspace events are sent. Really, just like a user would do when deleting some previously typed text; doesn't this use case work with NVDA?"

So, it seems to be as you supposed.

About your second question.
As I wrote above, to have audio feedback when I press the "delete" button, the option “Handle keys from other applications” should be on.
NVDA reads only one letter of the group of letters I delete, it seems to be only the first or the second letter.

For example I type "telefono" using 3 strokes: te, le, fono.
To delete the word I should press the "delete" button 3 times of cours. The first time I hear the letter "f", the second time "l" and the third the letter "t".

In this case it reads the first letter of each group of stroke. But sometimes it reads the second. Honestrly I don't understand the logic, it seems randomly.
Maybe it depends what I've typed before, if strokes with even or odd number of letters, maybe...
Anyway always reads the first or the second letter of the group.

Re: getting started with mail for windows10

David Moore

#33980

Yes,

The default account that comes up in the mail app, is the first account that you import. So, if you want a certain account to be the default account, you will have to import that account into the mail app first. Yes, I have to shift tab a lot as well, to get back to the message list. That is just a mail thing.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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From: David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 1:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting started with mail for windows10

I don’t know about default accounts but normally when I press escape I return to the message list directly – but sometimes as you say you need to shift tab if the focus shifts to the navigation area.

This happens with Jaws as well as NVDA so I think it is a Mail focus issue.

The way to jump to any folder is control Y but I don’t think this will be any quicker..

David Griffith

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From: Daniel Wolak
Sent: 20 January 2018 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] getting started with mail for windows10

Hi all,

I've just gotten started with using mail for windows10, after using

thunderbird for many years. I'm using nvda 2017.4, windows10 64bit and

have a few questions if I may.

1. Is there a way to choose a default account(I have two accounts, and

the one I use the least comes up first when I open mail and I have to

switch manualy to the second)

2. Is there a way after reading a message to get back to the message

list, instead of just using escape and shift+tab?

Thanks for any help with this.

Cheers,

Daniel

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