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Re: error message with nvda and jaws 2018

 

also here is the error message I am getting

nvda_slave.exe - System Error
The program can't start because api-ms-win-core-rtlsupport-l1-2-0.dll graphic 775  is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this

problem.
OK

that was the output from jaws virtual viewer sense ncvda won't run

I had the same problem on windows10 when I was running that.

note I need to make it clear that this only happens with jaws 2018

but something is screwed up and I need to get to the bottom of this

Hank

On 1/22/2018 12:35 PM, The Wolf wrote:
Hello I am still running in to that dll issue where nvda flat out refuses to run when ever jaws 2018 is installed
this is happening on windows7

is there some sort of log or something that I can send to help get rid of this bug?

I shouldn't have to remove jaws demo to get nvda to work there are still some apps that work better in jaws.

but this is a major bug and needs to be addressed

I don't know if jaws is motifying a dll in the system but we need to track this issue down

Hank





error message with nvda and jaws 2018

 

Hello I am still running in to that dll issue where nvda flat out refuses to run when ever jaws 2018 is installed
this is happening on windows7

is there some sort of log or something that I can send to help get rid of this bug?

I shouldn't have to remove jaws demo to get nvda to work there are still some apps that work better in jaws.

but this is a major bug and needs to be addressed

I don't know if jaws is motifying a dll in the system but we need to track this issue down

Hank


Re: Two cautionary tales, beware and a laugh.

 

Yeah, you need to tab twice to a checkbox and uncheck it and just make sure to do it the first time round else you will have to exit and relaunch the installer.

ccleaner is part of avast now so we are stuck with it now.

You just have to be awake, the first tab will mention something about security, tab again and there is the checkbox, overshoot and the installer will look like normal and you have to exit and come back in.

I usually update first thing in the morning but if you are half a sleep you will probably miss it.

Sadly a friend used a lot of free cleaners, cleanmaster, puron, ccleaner, and his admin decided that all the free software he loaded including ccleaner was malware filled.

And told him to use norton which his work uses.

Trouble is the interface is rather to complex.

For whatever reason some of my friends used norton at home and still use it.

Especially with the cpu slowdowns and patches, norton is just not something I'd use.

On 23/01/2018 1:00 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Firstly the latest version of Ccleaner is becoming a pest. it seems to be able to unilaterally decide to install avast anti virus without telling anyone until its too late. Unchecky did not spot it and yesterday, I twice had to take a machine back a day to get rid of it as I'm sure you are all aware how unfriendly the uninstaller is to screenreaders. Its left bits all over the machine, including in some folders labelled Cisco for some reason.
I fell that I need to warn folk about this unacceptable behaviour of ccleaner. It claims, apparently to be easy to remove but not for us.

Secondly the laugh.
Microsoft Security Essentials is something we use in Windows 7, but a person I know was having issues with it crashing, so he sent me a dictated email about it via his Iphone. This wonderful software has renamed this Microsoft program as
Microsoft Security Squirrels.


OK fine, so I had this wonderful picture of the innards of my machine with all These squirrels inside burying viruses all over the place.
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Re: Working with Libreoffice is so slow

 

my version is x86 which i think is more accessible and more stable.

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version 5.64 on windows 7.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Libreoffice is so slow


i tried previous versions of writer portable and libreoffice crashed
even after going to menus and options with nvda active!

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If you only want writer, then the portable version is fine, if a little
restrictive given you have no browse mode or say all etc in the
document.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Libreoffice is so slow


hi.
i did not check portable versions of libreoffice recently.
but previous versions are not usable with nvda.
everytimes, when i opened one portable version of libreoffice, (i mean
version 4 portable), libreoffice crashed even sometimes by going to
menus and options!
i am sure that i did not test libreoffice 5.1 and newer portable and
have not idea in this regard.
but for more certainty, i recommend installed version of libreoffice.

this post is about libreoffice.
can you please stuart brian, quentin and all, test my reported bug in
this link, read my comments, (specially my description and last
comment) and help me for finding a solution?

i reported this bug around 7 months ago, but without confermation and
solution from anyone!

God bless you all!

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108582

On 1/19/18, V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@utsa.edu> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:33 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


Is there a version of the suggested version for use as a portable app,
as
this is what I'm using it for.
Brian

Yes, both 5.3.7 and 5.4.4 are available as PortableApps.com framework
PAFs
(for Windows), an English build and a larger All "supported" languages
build.

5.3.7
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.3.7

5.4.4
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.4.4

I have no personal experience with using these NVDA, let us know

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questions for NVDA

Shasa
 

Hi, the more data you accumulate in AI, the better. Google, Apple and Microsoft are also collecting data. Microsoft is way behind here.
So I think that I should not criticize an application. As we use it and the analysis will be better as it evolves. This is what is already certain.
22/01/2018 14:50 tarihinde Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io yazdı:

This is what they have been testing on the blind in the seeing AI I phone app of course. One thing I do know it nearly always overestimates the age of males and underestimates the age of females. Is this positive discrimination?
I had the chance to play with a friends phone, but do not have one myself.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Lenron" <lenron93@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questions for NVDA


It would be quite nice to have something like this describe a picture.

On 1/21/18, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
The description feature for Windows 10 sounds interesting. Please can you
post a link where we can read more about it?

Microsoft is not well known for releasing its software under open source
licences (it has done so to some extent in recent years, but it's the
exception rather than the rule), therefore I think it unlikely, but any
announcement from Microsoft about the feature itself would be the definitive

source of information.

I don't understand your question "Can not we do this with the same DLL as we

do in the same OCR?" - please could you rephrase it?

Similarly, what does "can we deal with a cloud system?" mean? Any computer

which is online can access cloud computing resources. What were you asking

about specifically?


Antony.

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 17:30:50, Shasa wrote:

Microsoft has introduced a description feature that allows Windows 10 to
recognize objects, images, and other non-resolvable content on its
screen reader.
Is this open source by Microsoft? Can not we do this with the same DLL
as we do in the same OCR?

Finally, Python has great capabilities in the visual part. Legends
emerged especially with the development of artificial intelligence. Can
we deal with a cloud system?
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Re: Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questions for NVDA

Shasa
 

Merhaba, AI'da biriken veriler ne kadar yüksekse, o kadar iyi olur. Google, Apple ve Microsoft da veri topluyorlar. Microsoft burada geride kalıyor.
Bence başlangıçta olan bir uygulamayı eleştirmemeliyim. Kullandığımız ve analiz geliştikçe daha iyi olacak gibi. Zaten kesin olan budur.
22/01/2018 14:50 tarihinde Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io yazdı:

This is what they have been testing on the blind in the seeing AI I phone app of course. One thing I do know it nearly always overestimates the age of males and underestimates the age of females. Is this positive discrimination?
I had the chance to play with a friends phone, but do not have one myself.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Lenron" <lenron93@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questions for NVDA


It would be quite nice to have something like this describe a picture.

On 1/21/18, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
The description feature for Windows 10 sounds interesting. Please can you
post a link where we can read more about it?

Microsoft is not well known for releasing its software under open source
licences (it has done so to some extent in recent years, but it's the
exception rather than the rule), therefore I think it unlikely, but any
announcement from Microsoft about the feature itself would be the definitive

source of information.

I don't understand your question "Can not we do this with the same DLL as we

do in the same OCR?" - please could you rephrase it?

Similarly, what does "can we deal with a cloud system?" mean? Any computer

which is online can access cloud computing resources. What were you asking

about specifically?


Antony.

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 17:30:50, Shasa wrote:

Microsoft has introduced a description feature that allows Windows 10 to
recognize objects, images, and other non-resolvable content on its
screen reader.
Is this open source by Microsoft? Can not we do this with the same DLL
as we do in the same OCR?

Finally, Python has great capabilities in the visual part. Legends
emerged especially with the development of artificial intelligence. Can
we deal with a cloud system?
--
If you were ploughing a field, which would you rather use - two strong oxen
or
1024 chickens?

- Seymour Cray, pioneer of supercomputing

Please reply to the
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Re: firefox 58

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No it won't, Apart from the aforementioned issues its a whole lot better than 57 which I could not get to even open an offline buffer here. Just needs the downloads dialogue and the page refresh bugs fixing.
Brian

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From: "Nevzat Adil" <nevzatadil@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox 58


I am using the beta version with NVDA and it works great. It does not
with JAWS 18.
Nevzat

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 2:00 PM
Subject: [nvda] firefox 58


After all the talk about firefox 58 I went to www.mozilla.com to download

it. When I hit enter on the download firefox and then installed it I was

still on firefox 57.0.4 The only thing that changed was I am now running

the 64 bit version versus the 32 bit version of firefox 57.







Re: Working with Libreoffice is so slow

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version 5.64 on windows 7.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Libreoffice is so slow


i tried previous versions of writer portable and libreoffice crashed
even after going to menus and options with nvda active!

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If you only want writer, then the portable version is fine, if a little
restrictive given you have no browse mode or say all etc in the document.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Libreoffice is so slow


hi.
i did not check portable versions of libreoffice recently.
but previous versions are not usable with nvda.
everytimes, when i opened one portable version of libreoffice, (i mean
version 4 portable), libreoffice crashed even sometimes by going to
menus and options!
i am sure that i did not test libreoffice 5.1 and newer portable and
have not idea in this regard.
but for more certainty, i recommend installed version of libreoffice.

this post is about libreoffice.
can you please stuart brian, quentin and all, test my reported bug in
this link, read my comments, (specially my description and last
comment) and help me for finding a solution?

i reported this bug around 7 months ago, but without confermation and
solution from anyone!

God bless you all!

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108582

On 1/19/18, V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@utsa.edu> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:33 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


Is there a version of the suggested version for use as a portable app,
as
this is what I'm using it for.
Brian

Yes, both 5.3.7 and 5.4.4 are available as PortableApps.com framework
PAFs
(for Windows), an English build and a larger All "supported" languages
build.

5.3.7
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.3.7

5.4.4
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.4.4

I have no personal experience with using these NVDA, let us know

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Working with Libreoffice is so slow

 

i tried previous versions of writer portable and libreoffice crashed
even after going to menus and options with nvda active!

On 1/22/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
If you only want writer, then the portable version is fine, if a little
restrictive given you have no browse mode or say all etc in the document.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Libreoffice is so slow


hi.
i did not check portable versions of libreoffice recently.
but previous versions are not usable with nvda.
everytimes, when i opened one portable version of libreoffice, (i mean
version 4 portable), libreoffice crashed even sometimes by going to
menus and options!
i am sure that i did not test libreoffice 5.1 and newer portable and
have not idea in this regard.
but for more certainty, i recommend installed version of libreoffice.

this post is about libreoffice.
can you please stuart brian, quentin and all, test my reported bug in
this link, read my comments, (specially my description and last
comment) and help me for finding a solution?

i reported this bug around 7 months ago, but without confermation and
solution from anyone!

God bless you all!

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108582

On 1/19/18, V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@utsa.edu> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:33 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


Is there a version of the suggested version for use as a portable app,
as
this is what I'm using it for.
Brian

Yes, both 5.3.7 and 5.4.4 are available as PortableApps.com framework
PAFs
(for Windows), an English build and a larger All "supported" languages
build.

5.3.7
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.3.7

5.4.4
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.4.4

I have no personal experience with using these NVDA, let us know

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: firefox 58

 

I am using the beta version with NVDA and it works great. It does not
with JAWS 18.
Nevzat

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 2:00 PM
Subject: [nvda] firefox 58


After all the talk about firefox 58 I went to www.mozilla.com to download

it. When I hit enter on the download firefox and then installed it I was

still on firefox 57.0.4 The only thing that changed was I am now running

the 64 bit version versus the 32 bit version of firefox 57.







Two cautionary tales, beware and a laugh.

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Firstly the latest version of Ccleaner is becoming a pest. it seems to be able to unilaterally decide to install avast anti virus without telling anyone until its too late. Unchecky did not spot it and yesterday, I twice had to take a machine back a day to get rid of it as I'm sure you are all aware how unfriendly the uninstaller is to screenreaders. Its left bits all over the machine, including in some folders labelled Cisco for some reason.
I fell that I need to warn folk about this unacceptable behaviour of ccleaner. It claims, apparently to be easy to remove but not for us.

Secondly the laugh.
Microsoft Security Essentials is something we use in Windows 7, but a person I know was having issues with it crashing, so he sent me a dictated email about it via his Iphone. This wonderful software has renamed this Microsoft program as
Microsoft Security Squirrels.


OK fine, so I had this wonderful picture of the innards of my machine with all These squirrels inside burying viruses all over the place.
Brian

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Re: Working with Libreoffice is so slow

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If you only want writer, then the portable version is fine, if a little restrictive given you have no browse mode or say all etc in the document.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Libreoffice is so slow


hi.
i did not check portable versions of libreoffice recently.
but previous versions are not usable with nvda.
everytimes, when i opened one portable version of libreoffice, (i mean
version 4 portable), libreoffice crashed even sometimes by going to
menus and options!
i am sure that i did not test libreoffice 5.1 and newer portable and
have not idea in this regard.
but for more certainty, i recommend installed version of libreoffice.

this post is about libreoffice.
can you please stuart brian, quentin and all, test my reported bug in
this link, read my comments, (specially my description and last
comment) and help me for finding a solution?

i reported this bug around 7 months ago, but without confermation and
solution from anyone!

God bless you all!

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108582

On 1/19/18, V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@utsa.edu> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:33 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


Is there a version of the suggested version for use as a portable app, as
this is what I'm using it for.
Brian

Yes, both 5.3.7 and 5.4.4 are available as PortableApps.com framework PAFs
(for Windows), an English build and a larger All "supported" languages
build.

5.3.7
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.3.7

5.4.4
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.4.4

I have no personal experience with using these NVDA, let us know

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questions for NVDA

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This is what they have been testing on the blind in the seeing AI I phone app of course. One thing I do know it nearly always overestimates the age of males and underestimates the age of females. Is this positive discrimination?
I had the chance to play with a friends phone, but do not have one myself.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questions for NVDA


It would be quite nice to have something like this describe a picture.

On 1/21/18, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
The description feature for Windows 10 sounds interesting. Please can you
post a link where we can read more about it?

Microsoft is not well known for releasing its software under open source
licences (it has done so to some extent in recent years, but it's the
exception rather than the rule), therefore I think it unlikely, but any
announcement from Microsoft about the feature itself would be the definitive

source of information.

I don't understand your question "Can not we do this with the same DLL as we

do in the same OCR?" - please could you rephrase it?

Similarly, what does "can we deal with a cloud system?" mean? Any computer

which is online can access cloud computing resources. What were you asking

about specifically?


Antony.

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 17:30:50, Shasa wrote:

Microsoft has introduced a description feature that allows Windows 10 to
recognize objects, images, and other non-resolvable content on its
screen reader.
Is this open source by Microsoft? Can not we do this with the same DLL
as we do in the same OCR?

Finally, Python has great capabilities in the visual part. Legends
emerged especially with the development of artificial intelligence. Can
we deal with a cloud system?
--
If you were ploughing a field, which would you rather use - two strong oxen
or
1024 chickens?

- Seymour Cray, pioneer of supercomputing

Please reply to the
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Re: Getting rid of beeping sound

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I'm guessing this is firefox older than 57 you are using here? I wondered about this annoying issue too. Its that a progress bar is being seen by the screenreader. I'm not sure if firefox allows you to hide it or not though. I've seen it on audio playing of podcasts too, in those cases I tend to download it, but of course on youtube, not so easy. Does full screen mode hide it?
Brian

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From: "Morne van der Merwe" <mornevdmerwe@telkomsa.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:05 PM
Subject: [nvda] Getting rid of beeping sound


Hello listers,



The latest version of NVDA on a



Windows 10 machine.



The beeping sound while downloading something can be very helpful, but I
would like to get rid of it while listening to something on YouTube. There
is a beeping sound as I'm listening to the YouTube clip. Is there a way to
switch it off?



Thanks in advance.



Kind regards

Morne


Re: firefox 58

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Its officially out tomorrow.
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Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 2:00 PM
Subject: [nvda] firefox 58


After all the talk about firefox 58 I went to www.mozilla.com to download it. When I hit enter on the download firefox and then installed it I was still on firefox 57.0.4 The only thing that changed was I am now running the 64 bit version versus the 32 bit version of firefox 57.



Re: A note to all xp users here.

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Maybe it does but no anti virus is worse presumably!
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Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A note to all xp users here.


Clamwin gets very poor ratings in reviews.

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From: Josh Kennedy Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] A note to all xp users here.


maybe clamWin will work? it is free antivirus.


Re: A note to all xp users here.

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Yes but that was not the thrust of the issue. The issue is the sse2 instruction set issue which has made other software, like ccleaner no longer work on amd also fail and why you cannot use firefox above 48 either.
Its the compiler used to make the code that no longer supports the chips.
Also of course does this anti virus actually work with nvda which was why I asked on here in the first place.
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From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it>
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Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A note to all xp users here.


ClanWin does indeed run under (to quote from their website
http://www.clamwin.com ): "Microsoft Windows 10 / 8 / 7 / Vista / XP / Me /
2000 / 98 and Windows Server 2012, 2008 and 2003".

However (also quoting from their website): "Please note that ClamWin Free
Antivirus does not include an on-access real-time scanner. You need to
manually scan a file in order to detect a virus or spyware."

This in my opinion makes it rather less useful than many other anti-virus
scanners, however if your choice is limited to whatever will still run under
XP, then maybe it's a good enough compromise.


Antony.

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 13:31:13, Josh Kennedy wrote:

maybe clamWin will work? it is free antivirus.
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Re: Working with Libreoffice is so slow

 

hi.
i did not check portable versions of libreoffice recently.
but previous versions are not usable with nvda.
everytimes, when i opened one portable version of libreoffice, (i mean
version 4 portable), libreoffice crashed even sometimes by going to
menus and options!
i am sure that i did not test libreoffice 5.1 and newer portable and
have not idea in this regard.
but for more certainty, i recommend installed version of libreoffice.

this post is about libreoffice.
can you please stuart brian, quentin and all, test my reported bug in
this link, read my comments, (specially my description and last
comment) and help me for finding a solution?

i reported this bug around 7 months ago, but without confermation and
solution from anyone!

God bless you all!

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108582

On 1/19/18, V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@utsa.edu> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:33 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


Is there a version of the suggested version for use as a portable app, as
this is what I'm using it for.
Brian

 Yes, both 5.3.7 and 5.4.4 are available as PortableApps.com framework PAFs
(for Windows), an English build and a larger All "supported" languages
build.

5.3.7
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.3.7

5.4.4
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.4.4

I have no personal experience with using these NVDA, let us know
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Re: NVDA issue in win10 after security patch update.

Quentin Christensen
 

Have you uninstalled anything (especially Microsoft Office)?  Sometimes that can cause a shared file to be unregistered when it is still needed.

If so, you could try the steps in this issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243


On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 12:03 AM, Amala <anbujustin@...> wrote:
Hi All,

After the below patch in windows 10, NVDA is not working properly. It is reading the text as unknown in chrome and Mozilla Firefox. It is working partially working in edge.

Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool for Windows 8, 8.1, 10 and Windows Server 2012, 2012 R2, 2016 x64 Edition - November 2017 (KB890830)


Please help me.

Thanks and regards
Amala J




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Re: Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questions for NVDA

Adriani Botez
 

There is the addon Assistech IIT Delhi. But I don't know if the developer is still active.

Best
Adriani


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Shasa
Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Januar 2018 22:45
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questions for NVDA

Hi, I wanted to make a little more detail.

I was talking about the descriptive feature that can be used with the last spring update. We used Microsoft's DLL library to do OCR.
I also think that we can give Microsoft a description of the visual content in the same way as DLL.

Clouds have become spectacular structures that can analyze very well data. And many of them offer a massive Python infrastructure. Since NVDA is encoded in Python, I thought we could resolve these points by making a deal.

Python's ability to deal with visual solutions has been accepted by the whole world. Yes, it's costly, but it's a wonderful thing.
21.01.2018 19:30 tarihinde Shasa yazdı:

Developer friends and all NVDA users, greetings.

Microsoft has introduced a description feature that allows Windows 10
to recognize objects, images, and other non-resolvable content on its
screen reader.
Is this open source by Microsoft? Can not we do this with the same DLL
as we do in the same OCR?

Finally, Python has great capabilities in the visual part. Legends
emerged especially with the development of artificial intelligence.
Can we deal with a cloud system?