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Re: RES: [nvda] Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questionsfor NVDA

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi Alexandre ,

It was not that as clear to recognize some of the pictures but, somehow they are like similar in terms of recognition. I think in the orientation or the platform on mobile is not similar as for desktop or laptop. Though, you may still try the OCR still by activating the narrator, then once you heard the voice of the narrator you simply used the key command to capture the image by pressing Shift plus Caps lock plus D. Again, you have to make sure that the cursor is pointed to the graphics and the narrator gives you some description but, again not that full to describe images with compare of the Seeing AI app for mobile. I still believe that this will be more improves on the future releases of Windows 10. For now that is the only thing I've got for you or perhaps others could shed some details for this one.

Robert Mendoza
On 1/23/2018 5:16 PM, Alexandre Alves Toco wrote:

Hello!

Are you saying that narrator can now describe a photo’s contente as seeingAi?

If so, it is a very interesting feature!!!

How do you acomplish this?

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 

De: Shasa
Enviado:domingo, 21 de janeiro de 2018 14:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questionsfor NVDA

 

Developer friends and all NVDA users, greetings.

 

Microsoft has introduced a description feature that allows Windows 10 to

recognize objects, images, and other non-resolvable content on its

screen reader.

Is this open source by Microsoft? Can not we do this with the same DLL

as we do in the same OCR?

 

Finally, Python has great capabilities in the visual part. Legends

emerged especially with the development of artificial intelligence. Can

we deal with a cloud system?

 

 

 

 


Nuance Sounds Error (My Resested PC)

Shasa
 

Hello Friends,
I have not been able to use Nuance's voices since I reset my computer. I'm pasting NVDA's logs below.
All versions of Microsoft C ++ until 2015 are installed on my computer. NetFramework is also installed.
The log indicates that a DLL is not found.

My system information;
Windows 10 version: 1709,
OS Build: 16299.192.

Error in log:
ERROR - globalPluginHandler.initialize (23:50:18.966):
Error initializing global plugin <class 'globalPlugins.vocalizer_expressive_globalPlugin.GlobalPlugin'>
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "globalPluginHandler.pyo", line 32, in initialize
File "C:\Users\emre\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\vocalizer_expressive_driver\globalPlugins\vocalizer_expressive_globalPlugin\__init__.py", line 192, in __init__
File "C:\Users\emre\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\vocalizer_expressive_driver\globalPlugins\vocalizer_expressive_globalPlugin\utils.py", line 19, in __enter__
File "C:\Users\emre\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\vocalizer_expressive_driver\synthDrivers\vocalizer_expressive2\_vocalizer.py", line 171, in initialize
File "C:\Users\emre\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\vocalizer_expressive_driver\synthDrivers\vocalizer_expressive2\_vocalizer.py", line 131, in preInitialize
File "C:\Users\emre\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\vocalizer_expressive_driver\synthDrivers\vocalizer_expressive2\_veTypes.py", line 298, in loadVeDll
File "ctypes\__init__.pyo", line 444, in LoadLibrary
File "ctypes\__init__.pyo", line 366, in __init__
File "pythonMonkeyPatches.pyo", line 25, in _dlopen
WindowsError: [Error 126] The specified module could not be found


ERROR - synthDriverHandler.getSynthList (12:26:38.926):
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 54, in getSynthList
File "C:\Users\emre\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\vocalizer_expressive_driver\synthDrivers\vocalizer_expressive2\__init__.py", line 60, in check
File "C:\Users\emre\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\vocalizer_expressive_driver\synthDrivers\vocalizer_expressive2\_vocalizer.py", line 252, in postTerminate
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'vplatform_ReleaseInterfaces'
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (12:26:39.608):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.getSynthList (12:27:03.750):
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 54, in getSynthList
File "C:\Users\emre\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\vocalizer_expressive_driver\synthDrivers\vocalizer_expressive2\__init__.py", line 60, in check
File "C:\Users\emre\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\vocalizer_expressive_driver\synthDrivers\vocalizer_expressive2\_vocalizer.py", line 252, in postTerminate
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'vplatform_ReleaseInterfaces'.

Your help will make me happy. Happy Days.


RES: RES: [nvda] Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloudquestionsfor NVDA

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Ok, I guessed they were unvailing the same object recognition technology for Windows...

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 

De: Shasa
Enviado:terça-feira, 23 de janeiro de 2018 07:29
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: RES: [nvda] Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloudquestionsfor NVDA

 

This is an application developed for iOS yet. You can find it in the AppStore by searching "Seeing AI". And it is free.
Microsoft said it could also come on Android.

23/01/2018 12:16 tarihinde Alexandre Alves Toco yazdı:

Hello!

Are you saying that narrator can now describe a photo’s contente as seeingAi?

If so, it is a very interesting feature!!!

How do you acomplish this?

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 

De: Shasa
Enviado:domingo, 21 de janeiro de 2018 14:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questionsfor NVDA

 

Developer friends and all NVDA users, greetings.

 

Microsoft has introduced a description feature that allows Windows 10 to

recognize objects, images, and other non-resolvable content on its

screen reader.

Is this open source by Microsoft? Can not we do this with the same DLL

as we do in the same OCR?

 

Finally, Python has great capabilities in the visual part. Legends

emerged especially with the development of artificial intelligence. Can

we deal with a cloud system?

 

 

 

 

 

 


Addons on french website

Adriani Botez
 

Hello all,

Here are some fantastic addons, i.e. for ms word or access. I am really wondering why the developers do not want them to be reviewed and posted in the community.

@Paul Berring, great respect for your huge work. I really hope you will submit other addons for review as well. I am sure the user experience in NVDA will be significantly improved.

https://www.nvda-fr.org/addons/



Best
Adriani


Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Re: RES: [nvda] Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questionsfor NVDA

Shasa
 

This is an application developed for iOS yet. You can find it in the AppStore by searching "Seeing AI". And it is free.
Microsoft said it could also come on Android.
23/01/2018 12:16 tarihinde Alexandre Alves Toco yazdı:

Hello!

Are you saying that narrator can now describe a photo’s contente as seeingAi?

If so, it is a very interesting feature!!!

How do you acomplish this?

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 

De: Shasa
Enviado:domingo, 21 de janeiro de 2018 14:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questionsfor NVDA

 

Developer friends and all NVDA users, greetings.

 

Microsoft has introduced a description feature that allows Windows 10 to

recognize objects, images, and other non-resolvable content on its

screen reader.

Is this open source by Microsoft? Can not we do this with the same DLL

as we do in the same OCR?

 

Finally, Python has great capabilities in the visual part. Legends

emerged especially with the development of artificial intelligence. Can

we deal with a cloud system?

 

 

 

 



RES: [nvda] Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questionsfor NVDA

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Hello!

Are you saying that narrator can now describe a photo’s contente as seeingAi?

If so, it is a very interesting feature!!!

How do you acomplish this?

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 

De: Shasa
Enviado:domingo, 21 de janeiro de 2018 14:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questionsfor NVDA

 

Developer friends and all NVDA users, greetings.

 

Microsoft has introduced a description feature that allows Windows 10 to

recognize objects, images, and other non-resolvable content on its

screen reader.

Is this open source by Microsoft? Can not we do this with the same DLL

as we do in the same OCR?

 

Finally, Python has great capabilities in the visual part. Legends

emerged especially with the development of artificial intelligence. Can

we deal with a cloud system?

 

 

 

 


Welcome to NVDA 2018: complete package for parts 2 and 3 posted

 

Hi everyone,

 

The complete package for Welcome to NVDA 2018 parts 2 and 3 are now up. Part 2 talks about basics, including NVDA m,modifier key, keyboard layouts, NVDA menu, basic keyboard and touch commands and more. Part 3 is all about objects, including object properties and hierarchy, object navigation, review cursor, mouse, more touch interaction scenarios and others.

 

The parts are:

 

 

Last minute changes:

 

  • For those who’ve downloaded segments on NVDA menu and touch interaction, you need to download them again as I removed references to alpha builds.

 

Note on future parts: the next four parts (parts 4 through 7) will be divided into multiple sections, with part 5 (Popular Apps) split into three files and others into two. There will be last minute changes to parts 4 and 6 in order to correct a critical bug (part 4) and introduce what’s coming in NVDA 2018.1 (part 6).

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: update on dll issue

Quentin Christensen
 

Ah well that was my big idea.

I guess since you've got it working now there's not much more to do but leave it and see if it recurs or if it happens to anyone else.

Quentin.

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 12:39 PM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

Hello

I haven't installed anything but nvda and jaws

this is a fresh copy of windows7
totally weird

On 1/22/2018 6:20 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
The other thing I meant to ask, had you uninstalled anything else?  It looks like the issue was a DLL file being unregistered inadvertently and uninstalling something is usually the culprit there.  Microsoft Office particularly is a bad one for that.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 10:53 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

Hello no I haven't checked on the jaws forums

but will do so.
thanks
Hank

On 1/22/2018 4:46 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Hank,

It's an odd issue.  It does sound like something perhaps wasn't registered properly when Jaws was installed or uninstalled.  I didn't have a solution and evidently, no-one else here did either as I know you've posted about this before.  Have you asked on one of the Jaws forums?

In any case, I'm glad you've got it resolved for now.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 9:18 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
Hello just for the hell of it I installed jaws 18 along with jaws 2018 and now the nvda doesn't give me the error message

not sure if installing jaws 18 fixed the jaws 2018 dll issue with nvda can any one please confirm this am trying to figure out if I need to send a nvda log with the error that it was giving me

something screwy is conflicting I mean I got the issue fixed for now but I need to see if I am the only one having this issue if not then I think a bug needs to be filed.

if I am the only one running in to this issue  what can I do to help track this issue?

Hank








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Re: update on dll issue

 

Hello

I haven't installed anything but nvda and jaws

this is a fresh copy of windows7
totally weird

On 1/22/2018 6:20 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
The other thing I meant to ask, had you uninstalled anything else?  It looks like the issue was a DLL file being unregistered inadvertently and uninstalling something is usually the culprit there.  Microsoft Office particularly is a bad one for that.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 10:53 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

Hello no I haven't checked on the jaws forums

but will do so.
thanks
Hank

On 1/22/2018 4:46 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Hank,

It's an odd issue.  It does sound like something perhaps wasn't registered properly when Jaws was installed or uninstalled.  I didn't have a solution and evidently, no-one else here did either as I know you've posted about this before.  Have you asked on one of the Jaws forums?

In any case, I'm glad you've got it resolved for now.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 9:18 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
Hello just for the hell of it I installed jaws 18 along with jaws 2018 and now the nvda doesn't give me the error message

not sure if installing jaws 18 fixed the jaws 2018 dll issue with nvda can any one please confirm this am trying to figure out if I need to send a nvda log with the error that it was giving me

something screwy is conflicting I mean I got the issue fixed for now but I need to see if I am the only one having this issue if not then I think a bug needs to be filed.

if I am the only one running in to this issue  what can I do to help track this issue?

Hank








--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 





--
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Training and Support Manager

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Twitter: @NVAccess 



Re: update on dll issue

Quentin Christensen
 

The other thing I meant to ask, had you uninstalled anything else?  It looks like the issue was a DLL file being unregistered inadvertently and uninstalling something is usually the culprit there.  Microsoft Office particularly is a bad one for that.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 10:53 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

Hello no I haven't checked on the jaws forums

but will do so.
thanks
Hank

On 1/22/2018 4:46 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Hank,

It's an odd issue.  It does sound like something perhaps wasn't registered properly when Jaws was installed or uninstalled.  I didn't have a solution and evidently, no-one else here did either as I know you've posted about this before.  Have you asked on one of the Jaws forums?

In any case, I'm glad you've got it resolved for now.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 9:18 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
Hello just for the hell of it I installed jaws 18 along with jaws 2018 and now the nvda doesn't give me the error message

not sure if installing jaws 18 fixed the jaws 2018 dll issue with nvda can any one please confirm this am trying to figure out if I need to send a nvda log with the error that it was giving me

something screwy is conflicting I mean I got the issue fixed for now but I need to see if I am the only one having this issue if not then I think a bug needs to be filed.

if I am the only one running in to this issue  what can I do to help track this issue?

Hank








--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 





--
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Re: sea monkey?

Robert Mendoza
 

yes, it works with nvda .Have it a try.

Robert Mendoza

On 1/23/2018 7:29 AM, The Wolf wrote:
Hello does any one know if nvda works with sea monkey?

sorry for the typo

Hank




Re: update on dll issue

 

Hello no I haven't checked on the jaws forums

but will do so.
thanks
Hank

On 1/22/2018 4:46 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Hank,

It's an odd issue.  It does sound like something perhaps wasn't registered properly when Jaws was installed or uninstalled.  I didn't have a solution and evidently, no-one else here did either as I know you've posted about this before.  Have you asked on one of the Jaws forums?

In any case, I'm glad you've got it resolved for now.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 9:18 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
Hello just for the hell of it I installed jaws 18 along with jaws 2018 and now the nvda doesn't give me the error message

not sure if installing jaws 18 fixed the jaws 2018 dll issue with nvda can any one please confirm this am trying to figure out if I need to send a nvda log with the error that it was giving me

something screwy is conflicting I mean I got the issue fixed for now but I need to see if I am the only one having this issue if not then I think a bug needs to be filed.

if I am the only one running in to this issue  what can I do to help track this issue?

Hank








--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



Re: update on dll issue

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Hank,

It's an odd issue.  It does sound like something perhaps wasn't registered properly when Jaws was installed or uninstalled.  I didn't have a solution and evidently, no-one else here did either as I know you've posted about this before.  Have you asked on one of the Jaws forums?

In any case, I'm glad you've got it resolved for now.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 9:18 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
Hello just for the hell of it I installed jaws 18 along with jaws 2018 and now the nvda doesn't give me the error message

not sure if installing jaws 18 fixed the jaws 2018 dll issue with nvda can any one please confirm this am trying to figure out if I need to send a nvda log with the error that it was giving me

something screwy is conflicting I mean I got the issue fixed for now but I need to see if I am the only one having this issue if not then I think a bug needs to be filed.

if I am the only one running in to this issue  what can I do to help track this issue?

Hank








--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


sea monkey?

 

Hello does any one know if nvda works with sea monkey?

sorry for the typo

Hank


Re: Portable version degrading

Gene
 

it's not odd.  Many people run portable versions of many programs on their internal hard drive.  I have two or three portable versions of programs that I run on my internal hard drive for various reasons.  And some people prefer portable versions of programs wherever they run them because they make no changes to the system. 
 
A program is portable when it can be run on any compatible computer without installation and implied in that is that the program can be run from external media.
 
I haven't seen any explanations so far that are likely to account for the problem and I'm skeptical we'll see one.  The hard drive being that full is very unlikely and it doesn't explain why the program runs well when a new portable version is created with degredation occurring considerably later.  The degredation is stopped by recreating the portable version.  I've seen various hypotheses dealing with storage media and I find none of them plausible.  I doubt we will find a reason for this problem. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Portable version degrading

1. It's not USB.  Roger said that what he's referring to as his "portable"
version is in fact on an internal hard disk.  I know that may seem an odd use
of the word "portable", but at least it means we can rule out any problems to
do with externally connected devices.

2. The drive is (presumably) not the same one as contains Roger's "standard"
version of NVDA, because the "portable" copy is on a traditional spinning-rust
HDD, whereas his system drive is on an SSD, which is where I assume his
standard version of NVDA is installed.  Therefore your suggestion to check how
full each drive is is well worth while, although I would still expect the
system only to have a single swap partition / file, so if it runs out of memory
running either version of NVDA, swapping will occur in exactly the same way
for each.

3. The drive containing the "portable" copy is an HDD, whereas the main system
drive is an SSD, so drive degradation of the portable copy is a possible
cause, agreed.


Antony.

On Monday 22 January 2018 at 23:30:13, tonea.ctr.morrow@... wrote:

> Roger,
>
> I've lost track of all the info you gave on the drive. But, I kept a sticky
> note of things to check.
>
>
> 1)      Check if the USB is version 3. Version 2 is quite a bit slower than
> 3. Also, most people think they can plug a USB 3 into any USB port and it
> will still be a 3. Not true because the slowest wins. If you plug a USB 3
> into a USB 2 port, it becomes a USB 2 drive. Vice versa is also true. A 2
> drive into a 3 port runs at USB 2 speed. To get full USB 3, both the drive
> and the port must be USB 3.
>
> 2)      Fill status of the drive. If the drive is close to being full, it
> may be having to swap data a lot. That can really slow down any
> application. You wouldn't notice it on your regular applications because
> they would run off the regular drive. However, you would notice it on
> anything else that ran from the portable drive. I recommend less that 85%
> full, but others here are more tech savy than myself.
>
> 3)      Drive death immenent. I don't know what it is like to have a solid
> state drive die. But, on a traditional spinning drive, the drive will mark
> sectors as bad when the drive has trouble accessing them. This can result
> in corruptions. And, as the drive has to work twice as hard to find all
> the pieces it keeps moving, this can cause slower run time. Thus, you get
> slower and slower and more frequent data corruptions in an application. I
> don't remember how, but you can test for this.
>
> Thank you Adriani Botez for reminding me of the 2 versus 3 issue. I lost
> track of who suggested the other two...
>
> Good luck and let us know the results,
>
> Tonea

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Re: Portable version degrading

Antony Stone
 

1. It's not USB. Roger said that what he's referring to as his "portable"
version is in fact on an internal hard disk. I know that may seem an odd use
of the word "portable", but at least it means we can rule out any problems to
do with externally connected devices.

2. The drive is (presumably) not the same one as contains Roger's "standard"
version of NVDA, because the "portable" copy is on a traditional spinning-rust
HDD, whereas his system drive is on an SSD, which is where I assume his
standard version of NVDA is installed. Therefore your suggestion to check how
full each drive is is well worth while, although I would still expect the
system only to have a single swap partition / file, so if it runs out of memory
running either version of NVDA, swapping will occur in exactly the same way
for each.

3. The drive containing the "portable" copy is an HDD, whereas the main system
drive is an SSD, so drive degradation of the portable copy is a possible
cause, agreed.


Antony.

On Monday 22 January 2018 at 23:30:13, tonea.ctr.morrow@faa.gov wrote:

Roger,

I've lost track of all the info you gave on the drive. But, I kept a sticky
note of things to check.


1) Check if the USB is version 3. Version 2 is quite a bit slower than
3. Also, most people think they can plug a USB 3 into any USB port and it
will still be a 3. Not true because the slowest wins. If you plug a USB 3
into a USB 2 port, it becomes a USB 2 drive. Vice versa is also true. A 2
drive into a 3 port runs at USB 2 speed. To get full USB 3, both the drive
and the port must be USB 3.

2) Fill status of the drive. If the drive is close to being full, it
may be having to swap data a lot. That can really slow down any
application. You wouldn't notice it on your regular applications because
they would run off the regular drive. However, you would notice it on
anything else that ran from the portable drive. I recommend less that 85%
full, but others here are more tech savy than myself.

3) Drive death immenent. I don't know what it is like to have a solid
state drive die. But, on a traditional spinning drive, the drive will mark
sectors as bad when the drive has trouble accessing them. This can result
in corruptions. And, as the drive has to work twice as hard to find all
the pieces it keeps moving, this can cause slower run time. Thus, you get
slower and slower and more frequent data corruptions in an application. I
don't remember how, but you can test for this.

Thank you Adriani Botez for reminding me of the 2 versus 3 issue. I lost
track of who suggested the other two...

Good luck and let us know the results,

Tonea
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Re: Portable version degrading

tonea.ctr.morrow@...
 

Roger,

 

I’ve lost track of all the info you gave on the drive. But, I kept a sticky note of things to check.

 

1)      Check if the USB is version 3. Version 2 is quite a bit slower than 3. Also, most people think they can plug a USB 3 into any USB port and it will still be a 3. Not true because the slowest wins. If you plug a USB 3 into a USB 2 port, it becomes a USB 2 drive. Vice versa is also true. A 2 drive into a 3 port runs at USB 2 speed. To get full USB 3, both the drive and the port must be USB 3.

2)      Fill status of the drive. If the drive is close to being full, it may be having to swap data a lot. That can really slow down any application. You wouldn’t notice it on your regular applications because they would run off the regular drive. However, you would notice it on anything else that ran from the portable drive. I recommend less that 85% full, but others here are more tech savy than myself.

3)      Drive death immenent. I don’t know what it is like to have a solid state drive die. But, on a traditional spinning drive, the drive will mark sectors as bad when the drive has trouble accessing them. This can result in corruptions. And, as the drive has to work twice as hard to find all the pieces it keeps moving, this can cause slower run time. Thus, you get slower and slower and more frequent data corruptions in an application. I don’t remember how, but you can test for this.

 

Thank you Adriani Botez for reminding me of the 2 versus 3 issue. I lost track of who suggested the other two…

 

Good luck and let us know the results,

 

Tonea

 


update on dll issue

 

Hello just for the hell of it I installed jaws 18 along with jaws 2018 and now the nvda doesn't give me the error message

not sure if installing jaws 18 fixed the jaws 2018 dll issue with nvda can any one please confirm this am trying to figure out if I need to send a nvda log with the error that it was giving me

something screwy is conflicting I mean I got the issue fixed for now but I need to see if I am the only one having this issue if not then I think a bug needs to be filed.

if I am the only one running in to this issue  what can I do to help track this issue?

Hank


Re: error message with nvda and jaws 2018

 

also here is the error message I am getting

nvda_slave.exe - System Error
The program can't start because api-ms-win-core-rtlsupport-l1-2-0.dll graphic 775  is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this

problem.
OK

that was the output from jaws virtual viewer sense ncvda won't run

I had the same problem on windows10 when I was running that.

note I need to make it clear that this only happens with jaws 2018

but something is screwed up and I need to get to the bottom of this

Hank

On 1/22/2018 12:35 PM, The Wolf wrote:
Hello I am still running in to that dll issue where nvda flat out refuses to run when ever jaws 2018 is installed
this is happening on windows7

is there some sort of log or something that I can send to help get rid of this bug?

I shouldn't have to remove jaws demo to get nvda to work there are still some apps that work better in jaws.

but this is a major bug and needs to be addressed

I don't know if jaws is motifying a dll in the system but we need to track this issue down

Hank





error message with nvda and jaws 2018

 

Hello I am still running in to that dll issue where nvda flat out refuses to run when ever jaws 2018 is installed
this is happening on windows7

is there some sort of log or something that I can send to help get rid of this bug?

I shouldn't have to remove jaws demo to get nvda to work there are still some apps that work better in jaws.

but this is a major bug and needs to be addressed

I don't know if jaws is motifying a dll in the system but we need to track this issue down

Hank