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Re: can't import my favorites to firefox 58

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi Rosemary,

I did to import my favorites to Firefox 58 to my testing machine, noticed after it open first time just tab around until you heard of the Import now and you are about to choose items of check boxes like cookies, and favorites. Since I don't want to import the cookies I just left uncheck it then, arrow down to Favorites to check the box. Hope this helps you.


Robert Mendoza
On 1/25/2018 1:42 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I just tried that and it didn't work this time. I'm using firefox 58.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't import my favorites to firefox 58

 

I think you asked about this recently.  Please keep such messages for things you don't do enough to remember.  You have to press alt and right arrow to the import and backup menu.  Then down arrow to the item you want and press enter.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 11:10 PM

Subject: [nvda] can't import my favorites to firefox 58

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I just installed firefox 58 and so-far it's working great. I can't import my favorites to firefox. I go to the library with shift control B and all it shows is a treeview but I can't find import. What am I missing?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


got my favorites imported successfully

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

There was a step I forgot. You hit alt and right arrow after going to the library with shift control B. I'll keep that in mind.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Re: can't import my favorites to firefox 58

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I just tried that and it didn't work this time. I'm using firefox 58.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't import my favorites to firefox 58

 

I think you asked about this recently.  Please keep such messages for things you don't do enough to remember.  You have to press alt and right arrow to the import and backup menu.  Then down arrow to the item you want and press enter.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 11:10 PM

Subject: [nvda] can't import my favorites to firefox 58

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I just installed firefox 58 and so-far it's working great. I can't import my favorites to firefox. I go to the library with shift control B and all it shows is a treeview but I can't find import. What am I missing?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Re: can't import my favorites to firefox 58

Gene
 

I think you asked about this recently.  Please keep such messages for things you don't do enough to remember.  You have to press alt and right arrow to the import and backup menu.  Then down arrow to the item you want and press enter.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 11:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] can't import my favorites to firefox 58

Hi, everyone,

 

I just installed firefox 58 and so-far it's working great. I can't import my favorites to firefox. I go to the library with shift control B and all it shows is a treeview but I can't find import. What am I missing?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


can't import my favorites to firefox 58

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

I just installed firefox 58 and so-far it's working great. I can't import my favorites to firefox. I go to the library with shift control B and all it shows is a treeview but I can't find import. What am I missing?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Re: space

 

Well space is a bit bad to, space is fine if there is a space.

Supernova says blank line or blank line.

I guess we could make it blank line or empty line if you want but still.

On 25/01/2018 3:30 p.m., Kevin wrote:
Is it possible to change when NVDA says blank to space like jaws, blank doesn’t sound good.

Email is golden !!!
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Re: space

Sarah k Alawami
 

If you have a blank line "blank" would be better than space. So Id say keep it the way it is. A space is just that, it is *not* a blank line.

On Jan 24, 2018, at 6:30 PM, Kevin <kleeva5@...> wrote:

Is it possible to change when NVDA says blank to space like jaws, blank doesn’t sound good.
 
Email is golden !!!
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space

Kevin <kleeva5@...>
 

Is it possible to change when NVDA says blank to space like jaws, blank doesn’t sound good.

 

Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee

 


Re: FireFox 58 And Screen Readers

David Moore
 

Same with me!

I am using NVDA latest master development snapshot,

And it works really well with Firefox 58. I am accessing so many programs, apps, and browsers with NVDA verses JAWS. JAWS is getting way behind. NVDA works much better in Edge, for example. I really want to show my gratitude for all you do.

I just tried the News app with JAWS 2018 and NVDA, and NVDA works much better. I am using NVDA more and more to do just what I want to do.

Also, NVDA lets me know, in the mail app, as I type, when I made a spelling mistake. I can just press Shift+F10 to correct it.

That is beautiful.

David Moore

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From: inamuddinInam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 8:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers

 

Respected friends, as you are well aware that Mozilla has updated its browser FF58 on January 23rd 2018 as it promised!

I’m very much delighted to let you know that NVDA is well a head of all screen reader regarding the use of FF58.

The matter of fact is that I have JAWS 18.4530, JAWS 2018.1712.54, narrator and NVDA 2017.4.

I have tested FF58 with all of them and I found out that Fire Fox 58 is working the best with NVDA 2017.4.

I really couldn’t understand that even then Freedomscientific/VFO is charging hundreds and thousands of US Dollars from visually challenged people  and from different agencies which are helping visually challenged people, why they haven’t come up with JAWS update before releasing of Fire Fox 58!

This fundamental question is enough to convince those people and agencies which are giving hundreds and thousands of Dollars to Freedomscientific/VFo, should donate a hand some amount of money to NVAccess as well so it can work for the betterment of visually challenged people better than before!

In short all I can say is “East and west, NVDA is the best”

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Re: FireFox 58 And Screen Readers

 

That may be hard to do.

My aunt worked for a clothing place that had its own software, they decided to get sap, because all major companies had it.

It was harder to use, and had a lot of issues due to the complexity of the program and so they went back but at cost.

They had spent lots on the program and well while they went back it was only because it didn't suit it still took a couple years before that happened.

Now jaws, its been round for a while and just like windows just about everyone is using it or has used it or will use it.

Even if jaws was the most crappy insecure virus prone and privacy killing software no one would bother giving it up.

They have spent to much cash.

Its why while I'd like to doodle with linux I would never give up windows.

Sure I have issues and think that parts of it could be better, but even if it were crap I would still use it, buy it, etc because everyone basically uses it.

Games and a lot of things I use are run on it, its like giving up my (incert accessibility aid) its not happening.

Jaws is lagging, but giving up, it will never happen all the agencies love jaws.

Jaws is the best everything else is total crap no one cares.

But what if they do, have you or I in fact do we as users realise how much inercia has built up with this thing.

Even if nvda could do everything jaws can and more even if we all switched, it wouldn't happen over night.

Now I have seen a few smaller outfits change but no big company or government is going to switch from vfo and their crazy schemes and they know this, people have spent to much to switch, they can't switch easily and so they won't unless for some reason jaws does something so bad it will have to be dumped.

There are still users trying to get windoweyes support.

THe funding in jobs here will include jaws and when I work I will be using ujaws for it probably.

Its the way it is.

On 25/01/2018 2:35 p.m., inamuddinInam Uddin via Groups.Io wrote:
Respected friends, as you are well aware that Mozilla has updated its browser FF58 on January 23rd 2018 as it promised!
I’m very much delighted to let you know that NVDA is well a head of all screen reader regarding the use of FF58.
The matter of fact is that I have JAWS 18.4530, JAWS 2018.1712.54, narrator and NVDA 2017.4.
I have tested FF58 with all of them and I found out that Fire Fox 58 is working the best with NVDA 2017.4.
I really couldn’t understand that even then Freedomscientific/VFO is charging hundreds and thousands of US Dollars from visually challenged people and from different agencies which are helping visually challenged people, why they haven’t come up with JAWS update before releasing of Fire Fox 58!
This fundamental question is enough to convince those people and agencies which are giving hundreds and thousands of Dollars to Freedomscientific/VFo, should donate a hand some amount of money to NVAccess as well so it can work for the betterment of visually challenged people better than before!
In short all I can say is “East and west, NVDA is the best”
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
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FireFox 58 And Screen Readers

inamuddinInam Uddin
 

Respected friends, as you are well aware that Mozilla has updated its browser FF58 on January 23rd 2018 as it promised!

I’m very much delighted to let you know that NVDA is well a head of all screen reader regarding the use of FF58.

The matter of fact is that I have JAWS 18.4530, JAWS 2018.1712.54, narrator and NVDA 2017.4.

I have tested FF58 with all of them and I found out that Fire Fox 58 is working the best with NVDA 2017.4.

I really couldn’t understand that even then Freedomscientific/VFO is charging hundreds and thousands of US Dollars from visually challenged people  and from different agencies which are helping visually challenged people, why they haven’t come up with JAWS update before releasing of Fire Fox 58!

This fundamental question is enough to convince those people and agencies which are giving hundreds and thousands of Dollars to Freedomscientific/VFo, should donate a hand some amount of money to NVAccess as well so it can work for the betterment of visually challenged people better than before!

In short all I can say is “East and west, NVDA is the best”

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

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A Test Email

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Dear friends, this is a test email. Please reply me if my mails are getting through?

 

 

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Re: Checkboxes

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yeah thought so. I wonder what we can tell web developers though as I can't code check boxes to save my life. I have a CMS do all the work for me. I know the simple stuff but yeah not the more complex forms etc.

Any fix we can give the devs or are we just stuck doing the work around for now

On Jan 24, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

There is no NVDA setting.  
 
Also, since it happens on some check boxes and not on others, that's your answer.  If it were a setting, it would affect all check boxes.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 2:37 PM
Subject: [nvda] Checkboxes

Hi all,

something I've noticed fairly recently is that on some websites when I activate a checkbox it has stopped saying “checkbox checked” as I pres space bar to check it. I have to arrow back to make sure that it did indeed check (or uncheck).

I notice this mostly in WordPress where I use the checkboxes to select posts or media files I want to edit. It's not a WordPress only effect, but I don't think all websites have started doing this.

I'm just wondering whether it's a change in certain websites including WordPress or whether there's an NVDA setting that I've accidentally turned off that let me hear "checkbox checked" at the time I press the space bar on a checkbox.

Thanks for any suggestions :)

Giles


Re: Firefox 58

Gene
 

If people don't know this, in a Google search or, I would think when doing a search with other search engines, the results have a link to the result, then if you down arrow, you will see the address the link leads to.  If it is a long address, part of the middle may not be shown but enough will be shown that you will know if it is the correct address.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 58

I should have said, do a Google search to make sure that you are going to the correct site.  Check the address displayed for the site in the result you are going to go to to make sure the address is correct.  In other words, just because a Google result shows a site that looks like the one you want, without checking the address displayed below the link to go to the page, you can't be sure if it is correct or a site put up by a phisher or a malware distributor.  In otherwords, if you search for Mozilla or download firefox, or whatever and you are looking at a result you want to follow the link for, check the link.  If the link is different in some way, mozilla but spelled with one l, or something else not correct or expected that isn't the real site.  for a well known site like Mozilla, this is unlikely to happen.  Google shows results based on popularity and the real site is very likely to come up.  But you should check addresses to be sure.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 58

Your message cannot be answered as written.  My guess about what you are doing can be discussed.  for one thing, what do you mean you are using Google.  Google is a search engine.  Google Chrome is a browser.  If you typed something like Mozilla into Google, you wouldn't get Mozilla.com.  The first result would be for the Mozilla web site which has an org extension.  My guess is that you are using Google Chrome and that you typed http://www.mozilla.com into the address field and went there.  That is not Mozilla.  If you type an address and are taken somewhere that doesn't look right or is unexpected, then do a Google search to see what the actual address is.  And if you aren't absolutely sure of an address, don't go to it.  Search for the site you want using google.  There are malware distributors and phishers who purchase site names that are similar to the actual names of well known sites.  That's so that if people mistype because of a typographical error, they might be taken to a malicious site that may try to download malware onto the machine or try to get personal information from the person by looking like the real site and asking questions.  I'm not saying that mozilla.com is or isn't a malicious site, I don't know.  I'm saying that it is dangerous to go to addresses you aren't sure of. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 5:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] Firefox 58

If I use google and go to www.mozilla.com  a web page comes up that
seems to have no way to access it.  If you try to tab or use any of the
hot keys to move around the screen the only thing NVDA says is download
firefox.  Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
Thanks




Re: Firefox 58

Gene
 

I should have said, do a Google search to make sure that you are going to the correct site.  Check the address displayed for the site in the result you are going to go to to make sure the address is correct.  In other words, just because a Google result shows a site that looks like the one you want, without checking the address displayed below the link to go to the page, you can't be sure if it is correct or a site put up by a phisher or a malware distributor.  In otherwords, if you search for Mozilla or download firefox, or whatever and you are looking at a result you want to follow the link for, check the link.  If the link is different in some way, mozilla but spelled with one l, or something else not correct or expected that isn't the real site.  for a well known site like Mozilla, this is unlikely to happen.  Google shows results based on popularity and the real site is very likely to come up.  But you should check addresses to be sure.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 58

Your message cannot be answered as written.  My guess about what you are doing can be discussed.  for one thing, what do you mean you are using Google.  Google is a search engine.  Google Chrome is a browser.  If you typed something like Mozilla into Google, you wouldn't get Mozilla.com.  The first result would be for the Mozilla web site which has an org extension.  My guess is that you are using Google Chrome and that you typed http://www.mozilla.com into the address field and went there.  That is not Mozilla.  If you type an address and are taken somewhere that doesn't look right or is unexpected, then do a Google search to see what the actual address is.  And if you aren't absolutely sure of an address, don't go to it.  Search for the site you want using google.  There are malware distributors and phishers who purchase site names that are similar to the actual names of well known sites.  That's so that if people mistype because of a typographical error, they might be taken to a malicious site that may try to download malware onto the machine or try to get personal information from the person by looking like the real site and asking questions.  I'm not saying that mozilla.com is or isn't a malicious site, I don't know.  I'm saying that it is dangerous to go to addresses you aren't sure of. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 5:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] Firefox 58

If I use google and go to www.mozilla.com  a web page comes up that
seems to have no way to access it.  If you try to tab or use any of the
hot keys to move around the screen the only thing NVDA says is download
firefox.  Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
Thanks




Re: Firefox 58

Gene
 

Your message cannot be answered as written.  My guess about what you are doing can be discussed.  for one thing, what do you mean you are using Google.  Google is a search engine.  Google Chrome is a browser.  If you typed something like Mozilla into Google, you wouldn't get Mozilla.com.  The first result would be for the Mozilla web site which has an org extension.  My guess is that you are using Google Chrome and that you typed http://www.mozilla.com into the address field and went there.  That is not Mozilla.  If you type an address and are taken somewhere that doesn't look right or is unexpected, then do a Google search to see what the actual address is.  And if you aren't absolutely sure of an address, don't go to it.  Search for the site you want using google.  There are malware distributors and phishers who purchase site names that are similar to the actual names of well known sites.  That's so that if people mistype because of a typographical error, they might be taken to a malicious site that may try to download malware onto the machine or try to get personal information from the person by looking like the real site and asking questions.  I'm not saying that mozilla.com is or isn't a malicious site, I don't know.  I'm saying that it is dangerous to go to addresses you aren't sure of. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 5:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] Firefox 58

If I use google and go to www.mozilla.com  a web page comes up that
seems to have no way to access it.  If you try to tab or use any of the
hot keys to move around the screen the only thing NVDA says is download
firefox.  Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
Thanks




Firefox 58

Don H
 

If I use google and go to www.mozilla.com a web page comes up that seems to have no way to access it. If you try to tab or use any of the hot keys to move around the screen the only thing NVDA says is download firefox. Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
Thanks


Re: Blog post on Firefox 58.

Robert Mendoza
 

Good point, Brian. That is the main reason why will I get stick to ESR for now. Not unless they would allow the legacy addons like Navigational Sound, and other addons.


Robert Mendoza

On 1/25/2018 12:00 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
They are being over paranoid. and why should it not have its own sounds, cannot be that hard to achieve and you could turn them on and off. I can see I'll be looking for a better browser if they continue down this over the top security path. people are the problem for security, and unless Mozilla are intending to replace people as well they are on a fools errand!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Blog post on Firefox 58.


Well navigational sounds will never become part of firefox, I asked the short answer is that due to the new web extentions framework, while a lot of improvements are made, there are a lot of things that have been killed for security reasons.

One of these is registry access which the addon uses.

It uses windows sounds.

So for that to even work it would have to have its own sounds and have those as part of the addon and each event would need adding manually.

It would be good if firefox had things like a download completed sound, or other sounds or simply had a way to access windows sound registry info or things, ofcause there is security issues accessing registry info I guess but if that was part of the permitions I don't see a problem.

One thing I was and am still sore about is the fact the new addons ie noscript due to what firefox did can not have the menu bar they had and options all of them are buttons which seem to be out of my reach.




On 24/01/2018 6:43 a.m., J.G wrote:
Hello,

I posted a comment on this blog about sounds in future Firefox (see it) and MR Zehe replied me, that he has not known Navigational sounds addon until now and there is currently no plan to embed sounds into Firefox. So if we want this feature, we must contact developers and politely request this feature.

regards, Jožef




Re: Blog post on Firefox 58.

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Brian


I may suggest to post it to his blog instead to received response to Marco that is mentioned below.


Robert Mendoza

On 1/25/2018 12:02 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Well no response to my email which I thought to be polite.
brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "J.G" <jozko.gregorc@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Blog post on Firefox 58.


Sarah and others,

thank you for your very constructive and polite comments.

Please read my comment first on Marco's blog and his reply and then write a comments. I did not mension begin/end navigation sound although these sounds would be also helpful, but I wrote about sounds which indicate, that download is completed, that RSS was detected, that popup has been blocked etc.

So please, please be more constructive and polite.

Here is a link to the my comment on Marco's blog.

https://www.marcozehe.de/2018/01/16/nvda-firefox-58-team-regaining-strength/#comment-4012

Next comment is Marco's reply.

Thanks.

Kind regards, Jožef



Re: firefox 58

Robert Mendoza
 

Yes, it is confirmed that version 58 is been released. However, I will rather to go back to Firefox ESR until the fix were made hopefully. So, far I am very confident enough to used ESR as my browser. For some reason it is more stable yet still could used either addons specifically for accessibility stand point.

Robert Mendoza

On 1/25/2018 2:32 AM, slery wrote:
I am using the beta version and it does NOT work.
Firefox 58.0
Win 10
Nvda 2017.3

Cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nevzat Adil
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 7:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox 58

I am using the beta version with NVDA and it works great. It does not with JAWS 18.
Nevzat

On 1/22/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Its officially out tomorrow.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 2:00 PM
Subject: [nvda] firefox 58


After all the talk about firefox 58 I went to www.mozilla.com to
download

it. When I hit enter on the download firefox and then installed it I
was

still on firefox 57.0.4 The only thing that changed was I am now
running

the 64 bit version versus the 32 bit version of firefox 57.