Date   

Re: NVDA Snapshot

Brice Mijares
 

What is this NVDA snap shot?


Re: having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file

Brice Mijares
 

I downloaded it right from the email by hitting the context key, then the letter K, then alt S. The zip file downloaded right to my desktop.

On 1/31/2018 9:13 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Gene,
I was using internet explorer. When I tried to download the file in my external hard drive, I got a message saying it couldn't be downloaded. I also tried to see if I could save it to my downloads folder but that didn't work either. I know it's a very large file.
Rosemarie
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:54 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file
You didn't tell us what, if anything did happen.� What browser are you using?� Did you get any error messages?� Did anything happen at all or did you just remain on the page?
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:*Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>
*Sent:*Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:51 PM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*[nvda] having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file
Hi, everyone,
I just tried to download the 2018 tutorial on both my external hard drive and my music folder but I couldn't get it to download. I even tried c:\downloads\nvda 2018 tutorial.zip but that didn't work either. What could I be missing here?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Rosemarie
P.S. I tried to save it to my downloads folder but that didn't work either.


Re: having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file

john s
 

Gene, using Internet Explorer, it took me a few tries but I got it downloaded.  On the first few tries, there was no error message, just silence.


At 07:58 AM 2/1/2018, Gene, wrote:
If it was, then that would be very uncommon.  It may be that, just having been announced, a lot of people, far more than usual, tried to download the file at the same time.  But I'm skeptical because we heard no reports from others and if there were such an issue, we would expect to see people talking about how slow the download is or that they couldn't do so.  Therefore, I'm very skeptical.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 4:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file

It might be a a bandwidth issue. its a very slow connection and a very large
file. Its only running at 1.2meg a second here with long pauses as it goes
along.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@... >
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 2:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file


> Hi, everyone,
>
>
>
> I just tried to download the 2018 tutorial on both my external hard drive
> and my music folder but I couldn't get it to download. I even tried
> c:\downloads\nvda 2018 tutorial.zip but that didn't work either. What
> could
> I be missing here?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help in advance.
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
> P.S. I tried to save it to my downloads folder but that didn't work
> either.
>
>
>
>
>
>


                 John


Re: It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!

Gene
 

Your download was much slower than mine.  We don't know why.  It isn't a band width issue.  I got download speeds last night, perhaps thirty minutes after the e-mail was sent or an hour after, of about 500kbps and the download took about eighteen minutes.  We don't know why the download was so slow in your case.  Again, you often generalize from one performance experience.  You often can't. You can say this was your experience but without more information, you often can't say more than that.  If others have such problems, then a new host might be in order but since we have received no other complaints and given the interest, probably fifty or one-hundred or more people may have downloaded it by now, no such evidence is known.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
   From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!

A faster site isn't needed.  People simply have to not expect everything instantly in this childish instant gratification of everything culture.  It took me about eighteen minutes to download the material.  Tragic that it took so long.  So I did other things while the download occurred.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!

Hi Joseph, One thing to warn people about the download from that location is
only running about 1.2mb a second so its going to be quite a long download.
 What is needed is a faster site.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 11:50 PM
Subject: [nvda] It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!


> Dear global NVDA community,
>
>
>
> It is done! I'm delighted to announce the immediate release of the
> long-awaited update to a popular series of free tutorials for NVDA users:
> Welcome to NVDA, now in its third edition. Based on NVDA 2018.1 with some
> features from 2017.4, this tutorial set will take you on a cruise around
> NVDA world, including installation, concepts, usage, commands,
> configuration, tools, add-ons and beyond.
>
>
>
> The complete package (as a zip file) with introduction and what's new, the
> main tutorial series, and two addenda can be found at:
>
> http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/Welcome%20to%20NVDA%202018%20Audio%20Tu
> torial.zip
>
>
>
> The changes made between 2015 and 2018 editions are too numerous to list,
> but the highlights include use of a completely new speech synthesizer, web
> browsing using Microsoft Edge and Mozilla Firefox, new settings and
> concepts, and so many changes to add-ons and other topics. It'll take
> pages
> to talk about changes between 2013 and 2018 editions, as there are so many
> to list.
>
>
>
> Copyright notices: NVDA (NonVisual Desktop Access) is copyright 2006-2018
> by
> NV Access Limited, released under GPL 2. Microsoft Windows, Microsoft
> Edge,
> Windows OneCore voices and related products are copyright Microsoft
> Corporation. Firefox is copyright Mozilla Foundation. Other products
> mentioned in the tutorial set are copyrighted by makers of these products.
> Welcome to NVDA tutorial set is copyright 2013-2018 Joseph Lee, with
> permissive license for free distribution and sharing.
>
>
>
> One major announcement: this will be my last grand scale tutorial project
> for the NVDA community. We have better tutorials now, including the
> official
> NVDA Basic Training module from NV Access. If anyone wants to produce the
> fourth edition of Welcome to NVDA (perhaps in 2020), you have my blessing.
> All I ask of you is that you do it not for fame or glory, but because you
> love this community.
>
>
>
> Also, regarding payments for my work: the Welcome to NVDA series is, was,
> and should remain free in consideration for many people who do not have
> financial security to pay for assistance or product tutorials. If you
> insist
> on paying me for this tutorial, I'd rather ask you to donate to NV Access
> instead so NVDA screen reader development can continue. If you still
> insist
> on paying me (apart from offering me a scholarship at Cal State LA;
> joking),
> I'd still ask you to donate to NV Access, or if you want, a worthy project
> that improves lives in the long run.
>
>
>
> Other final matters:
>
>
>
> * Text transcriptions are always welcome.
> * Translations are more than welcome.
> * Converting this into other formats is welcome (including DAISY).
> * I hereby give you permission to quote my tutorial for different
> purposes (writing essays, as part of a research paper, websites,
> mainstream
> media and what not). All I ask is a small citation.
>
>
>
> Final remarks: I'd like to thank you all for your support for the last six
> weeks. All of you are a part of this effort.
>
>
>
> Enjoy (and share) the tutorial set, and once again, welcome to NVDA 2018!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>




Re: having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file

Gene
 

If it was, then that would be very uncommon.  It may be that, just having been announced, a lot of people, far more than usual, tried to download the file at the same time.  But I'm skeptical because we heard no reports from others and if there were such an issue, we would expect to see people talking about how slow the download is or that they couldn't do so.  Therefore, I'm very skeptical.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file

It might be a a bandwidth issue. its a very slow connection and a very large
file. Its only running at 1.2meg a second here with long pauses as it goes
along.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 2:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file


> Hi, everyone,
>
>
>
> I just tried to download the 2018 tutorial on both my external hard drive
> and my music folder but I couldn't get it to download. I even tried
> c:\downloads\nvda 2018 tutorial.zip but that didn't work either. What
> could
> I be missing here?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help in advance.
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
> P.S. I tried to save it to my downloads folder but that didn't work
> either.
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!

Gene
 

A faster site isn't needed.  People simply have to not expect everything instantly in this childish instant gratification of everything culture.  It took me about eighteen minutes to download the material.  Tragic that it took so long.  So I did other things while the download occurred.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!

Hi Joseph, One thing to warn people about the download from that location is
only running about 1.2mb a second so its going to be quite a long download.
 What is needed is a faster site.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 11:50 PM
Subject: [nvda] It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!


> Dear global NVDA community,
>
>
>
> It is done! I'm delighted to announce the immediate release of the
> long-awaited update to a popular series of free tutorials for NVDA users:
> Welcome to NVDA, now in its third edition. Based on NVDA 2018.1 with some
> features from 2017.4, this tutorial set will take you on a cruise around
> NVDA world, including installation, concepts, usage, commands,
> configuration, tools, add-ons and beyond.
>
>
>
> The complete package (as a zip file) with introduction and what's new, the
> main tutorial series, and two addenda can be found at:
>
> http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/Welcome%20to%20NVDA%202018%20Audio%20Tu
> torial.zip
>
>
>
> The changes made between 2015 and 2018 editions are too numerous to list,
> but the highlights include use of a completely new speech synthesizer, web
> browsing using Microsoft Edge and Mozilla Firefox, new settings and
> concepts, and so many changes to add-ons and other topics. It'll take
> pages
> to talk about changes between 2013 and 2018 editions, as there are so many
> to list.
>
>
>
> Copyright notices: NVDA (NonVisual Desktop Access) is copyright 2006-2018
> by
> NV Access Limited, released under GPL 2. Microsoft Windows, Microsoft
> Edge,
> Windows OneCore voices and related products are copyright Microsoft
> Corporation. Firefox is copyright Mozilla Foundation. Other products
> mentioned in the tutorial set are copyrighted by makers of these products.
> Welcome to NVDA tutorial set is copyright 2013-2018 Joseph Lee, with
> permissive license for free distribution and sharing.
>
>
>
> One major announcement: this will be my last grand scale tutorial project
> for the NVDA community. We have better tutorials now, including the
> official
> NVDA Basic Training module from NV Access. If anyone wants to produce the
> fourth edition of Welcome to NVDA (perhaps in 2020), you have my blessing.
> All I ask of you is that you do it not for fame or glory, but because you
> love this community.
>
>
>
> Also, regarding payments for my work: the Welcome to NVDA series is, was,
> and should remain free in consideration for many people who do not have
> financial security to pay for assistance or product tutorials. If you
> insist
> on paying me for this tutorial, I'd rather ask you to donate to NV Access
> instead so NVDA screen reader development can continue. If you still
> insist
> on paying me (apart from offering me a scholarship at Cal State LA;
> joking),
> I'd still ask you to donate to NV Access, or if you want, a worthy project
> that improves lives in the long run.
>
>
>
> Other final matters:
>
>
>
> * Text transcriptions are always welcome.
> * Translations are more than welcome.
> * Converting this into other formats is welcome (including DAISY).
> * I hereby give you permission to quote my tutorial for different
> purposes (writing essays, as part of a research paper, websites,
> mainstream
> media and what not). All I ask is a small citation.
>
>
>
> Final remarks: I'd like to thank you all for your support for the last six
> weeks. All of you are a part of this effort.
>
>
>
> Enjoy (and share) the tutorial set, and once again, welcome to NVDA 2018!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>




Re: It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!

Ian Blackburn
 

I also wish to thank joseph for all the work he has done over the last few years on the tutorial and other items

I appreciate hearing examples of how to use the material that would be in the written tutorial available from nvda
It was the audio tutorials that really got me into using the screen reader as my main one on windows
Ian

On 1 Feb 2018, at 8:02 pm, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:

hi joseph.
i sincerely appreciate all of your efforts towards us and pray for you always.
where can i download your previous tutorials too?
does the link remain forever or is it possible its changed?
God bless you and his infinite mercy and graces i pray for you!

On 2/1/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Techtalk did put your site address out this week in its podcast and on rnib

connect radio.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 3:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now
COMPLETE!


Hi,

The tutorial is about 560 MB (uncompressed).

I can add a file that describes topics discussed and upload it as part of
the zip file, but this means everyone must download the file again, which
means precious bandwidth (well, some will need to download the file
again).

As for putting up links to my website: I'd advise against that, as the
site
may disappear someday, there might be a new location for tutorials and
such.

Cheers,

joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
New
Zealand
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now
COMPLETE!



Hi Joseph



I just downloaded your tutorials in the zip file and apart from the last
couple of files they were named and the other ones had section. but did
not
say what they covered unless you go to the website.



Would it be possible to put into the zip file either in or html what
they
refer to like on the website of yours.



I know i could easy do it my self but then every one would have to do it
to
if they want to know what the files refer to.



If it was done by you every one that downloaded the zip file would have
the
either or html file to refer to.



I was just thinking if some one burned your tutorials onto a disk with a
copy of nvda and gave it away.

They might not have internet access and would not know what sections
cover
with out the file.

And listening to the whole lot.


If the file is html they can as you know just jump down by headings then
refer on the html file to which mp3 file it points to.

Gene nz
.


And also refer to your website when they do have internet access.



On 2/1/2018 12:50 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Dear global NVDA community,



It is done! I'm delighted to announce the immediate release of the
long-awaited update to a popular series of free tutorials for NVDA users:
Welcome to NVDA, now in its third edition. Based on NVDA 2018.1 with some
features from 2017.4, this tutorial set will take you on a cruise around
NVDA world, including installation, concepts, usage, commands,
configuration, tools, add-ons and beyond.



The complete package (as a zip file) with introduction and what's new,
the
main tutorial series, and two addenda can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/Welcome%20to%20NVDA%202018%20Audio%20Tu
torial.zip



The changes made between 2015 and 2018 editions are too numerous to list,
but the highlights include use of a completely new speech synthesizer,
web
browsing using Microsoft Edge and Mozilla Firefox, new settings and
concepts, and so many changes to add-ons and other topics. It'll take
pages
to talk about changes between 2013 and 2018 editions, as there are so
many
to list.



Copyright notices: NVDA (NonVisual Desktop Access) is copyright 2006-2018

by
NV Access Limited, released under GPL 2. Microsoft Windows, Microsoft
Edge,
Windows OneCore voices and related products are copyright Microsoft
Corporation. Firefox is copyright Mozilla Foundation. Other products
mentioned in the tutorial set are copyrighted by makers of these
products.
Welcome to NVDA tutorial set is copyright 2013-2018 Joseph Lee, with
permissive license for free distribution and sharing.



One major announcement: this will be my last grand scale tutorial project
for the NVDA community. We have better tutorials now, including the
official
NVDA Basic Training module from NV Access. If anyone wants to produce the
fourth edition of Welcome to NVDA (perhaps in 2020), you have my
blessing.
All I ask of you is that you do it not for fame or glory, but because you
love this community.



Also, regarding payments for my work: the Welcome to NVDA series is, was,
and should remain free in consideration for many people who do not have
financial security to pay for assistance or product tutorials. If you
insist
on paying me for this tutorial, I'd rather ask you to donate to NV Access
instead so NVDA screen reader development can continue. If you still
insist
on paying me (apart from offering me a scholarship at Cal State LA;
joking),
I'd still ask you to donate to NV Access, or if you want, a worthy
project
that improves lives in the long run.



Other final matters:



* Text transcriptions are always welcome.
* Translations are more than welcome.
* Converting this into other formats is welcome (including DAISY).
* I hereby give you permission to quote my tutorial for different
purposes (writing essays, as part of a research paper, websites,
mainstream
media and what not). All I ask is a small citation.



Final remarks: I'd like to thank you all for your support for the last
six
weeks. All of you are a part of this effort.



Enjoy (and share) the tutorial set, and once again, welcome to NVDA 2018!

Cheers,

Joseph



--


Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the
NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,
please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert
exam.







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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Word 2003 and 2002 funnies with latest master snaps

 

hi.
do you mean that 2003 version of word is no longer supported by nvda,
(because nvda in 2018 supports uia for accessibility of word?
i advocate and admire you, because you stock with your favor, and did
not change your software, just for change and beeing up to date!

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<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Hi folks, I know time marcheth on and most have at least office 2007 by now,

but I do use older versions of Office from time to time on windows 7 and up

to the last few weeks have had no issues with nvda on those really.
However two issues have just popped up, one is that if in focus mode I
cannot get past page breaks in documents with cursoring it generated the
error sound an stays on te side of the break you were on. the only way past

is browse mode then a switch back to focus mode to enter text again. The
lesser of these which does not seem to affect function but does generate the

word pane and multiple error bleeps is the spellcheck of a document
afterwards, ie from the menu options.
it displays the info as it should but the din is silly.
I strongly suspect a bug in the code handling ui for speeding up later
versions of word to be the issue here. Maybe its not detecting the older
versions of the program and defaulting correctly trying to run code as well

as the normal new code at the same time causing the noise and lack of cursor

progress at page breaks.
Anyone care to comment other than castigating me for using old versions of

Word. I have my reasons for doing so which I'd rather not go into in this
place.

Brian

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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!

 

hi joseph.
i sincerely appreciate all of your efforts towards us and pray for you always.
where can i download your previous tutorials too?
does the link remain forever or is it possible its changed?
God bless you and his infinite mercy and graces i pray for you!

On 2/1/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Techtalk did put your site address out this week in its podcast and on rnib

connect radio.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 3:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now
COMPLETE!


Hi,

The tutorial is about 560 MB (uncompressed).

I can add a file that describes topics discussed and upload it as part of
the zip file, but this means everyone must download the file again, which
means precious bandwidth (well, some will need to download the file
again).

As for putting up links to my website: I'd advise against that, as the
site
may disappear someday, there might be a new location for tutorials and
such.

Cheers,

joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
New
Zealand
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now
COMPLETE!



Hi Joseph



I just downloaded your tutorials in the zip file and apart from the last
couple of files they were named and the other ones had section. but did
not
say what they covered unless you go to the website.



Would it be possible to put into the zip file either in or html what
they
refer to like on the website of yours.



I know i could easy do it my self but then every one would have to do it
to
if they want to know what the files refer to.



If it was done by you every one that downloaded the zip file would have
the
either or html file to refer to.



I was just thinking if some one burned your tutorials onto a disk with a
copy of nvda and gave it away.

They might not have internet access and would not know what sections
cover
with out the file.

And listening to the whole lot.


If the file is html they can as you know just jump down by headings then
refer on the html file to which mp3 file it points to.

Gene nz
.


And also refer to your website when they do have internet access.



On 2/1/2018 12:50 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Dear global NVDA community,



It is done! I'm delighted to announce the immediate release of the
long-awaited update to a popular series of free tutorials for NVDA users:
Welcome to NVDA, now in its third edition. Based on NVDA 2018.1 with some
features from 2017.4, this tutorial set will take you on a cruise around
NVDA world, including installation, concepts, usage, commands,
configuration, tools, add-ons and beyond.



The complete package (as a zip file) with introduction and what's new,
the
main tutorial series, and two addenda can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/Welcome%20to%20NVDA%202018%20Audio%20Tu
torial.zip



The changes made between 2015 and 2018 editions are too numerous to list,
but the highlights include use of a completely new speech synthesizer,
web
browsing using Microsoft Edge and Mozilla Firefox, new settings and
concepts, and so many changes to add-ons and other topics. It'll take
pages
to talk about changes between 2013 and 2018 editions, as there are so
many
to list.



Copyright notices: NVDA (NonVisual Desktop Access) is copyright 2006-2018

by
NV Access Limited, released under GPL 2. Microsoft Windows, Microsoft
Edge,
Windows OneCore voices and related products are copyright Microsoft
Corporation. Firefox is copyright Mozilla Foundation. Other products
mentioned in the tutorial set are copyrighted by makers of these
products.
Welcome to NVDA tutorial set is copyright 2013-2018 Joseph Lee, with
permissive license for free distribution and sharing.



One major announcement: this will be my last grand scale tutorial project
for the NVDA community. We have better tutorials now, including the
official
NVDA Basic Training module from NV Access. If anyone wants to produce the
fourth edition of Welcome to NVDA (perhaps in 2020), you have my
blessing.
All I ask of you is that you do it not for fame or glory, but because you
love this community.



Also, regarding payments for my work: the Welcome to NVDA series is, was,
and should remain free in consideration for many people who do not have
financial security to pay for assistance or product tutorials. If you
insist
on paying me for this tutorial, I'd rather ask you to donate to NV Access
instead so NVDA screen reader development can continue. If you still
insist
on paying me (apart from offering me a scholarship at Cal State LA;
joking),
I'd still ask you to donate to NV Access, or if you want, a worthy
project
that improves lives in the long run.



Other final matters:



* Text transcriptions are always welcome.
* Translations are more than welcome.
* Converting this into other formats is welcome (including DAISY).
* I hereby give you permission to quote my tutorial for different
purposes (writing essays, as part of a research paper, websites,
mainstream
media and what not). All I ask is a small citation.



Final remarks: I'd like to thank you all for your support for the last
six
weeks. All of you are a part of this effort.



Enjoy (and share) the tutorial set, and once again, welcome to NVDA 2018!

Cheers,

Joseph



--


Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the
NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,
please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert
exam.







--
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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: NVDA Snapshot

David Moore
 

When should you use development snapshots?

Right now!

I would Use Master snapshots, because they have been tested for two weeks. It is beta software like the RC versions are for the major versions like 2018.1.

I use Next snapshots, because they are even more up to date, and I like testing new code. The more advanced should use those.

Have a great one!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ângelo Abrantes
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 6:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Snapshot

 

Hi,
Sorry if I'm wrong!

I thought the "next" versions would serve for users to run tests and send bugs to the developers!

"You should NOT use snapshots unless it is necessary."

When should I use snapshots?
Who should use the snapshots?
Which version of NVDA should I use?
Excuse me, but sometimes I get a little confused by all these things!




Às 10:36 de 01-02-2018, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi,

The issue has to do with coding mistakes, which should be fixed now. For this and other reasons, you should NOT use snapshots unless it is necessary.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ângelo Abrantes
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 2:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Snapshot

 

Here, is happening the same thing.

Ângelo Abrantes

 

Às 07:17 de 01-02-2018, inamuddinInam Uddin via Groups.Io escreveu:

Respected friends, last night I received an email regarding snapshot of 14816 6626 something.

I have downloaded and installed that snapshot and this morning I got an updated of another snapshot.

It was updated several times but couldn’t install.

I therefore had to uninstalled that snapshot and had to installed stable NVDA 2017.4.

Please let me know did I make any kind of mistake?

Your quick reply will be dealt with sympathetic consideration.

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...
Inamuddin.ronaque@...
outlook:
inam092@...
yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...
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Re: NVDA Snapshot

Ângelo Abrantes
 

Hi,
Sorry if I'm wrong!

I thought the "next" versions would serve for users to run tests and send bugs to the developers!

"You should NOT use snapshots unless it is necessary."

When should I use snapshots?
Who should use the snapshots?
Which version of NVDA should I use?
Excuse me, but sometimes I get a little confused by all these things!



Às 10:36 de 01-02-2018, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi,

The issue has to do with coding mistakes, which should be fixed now. For this and other reasons, you should NOT use snapshots unless it is necessary.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ângelo Abrantes
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 2:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Snapshot

 

Here, is happening the same thing.

Ângelo Abrantes

 

Às 07:17 de 01-02-2018, inamuddinInam Uddin via Groups.Io escreveu:

Respected friends, last night I received an email regarding snapshot of 14816 6626 something.

I have downloaded and installed that snapshot and this morning I got an updated of another snapshot.

It was updated several times but couldn’t install.

I therefore had to uninstalled that snapshot and had to installed stable NVDA 2017.4.

Please let me know did I make any kind of mistake?

Your quick reply will be dealt with sympathetic consideration.

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...
Inamuddin.ronaque@...
outlook:
inam092@...
yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

 

 

 

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Re: NVDA Snapshot

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

To be fair, the next snaps have been very reliable recently. This is purely a fault where the correct dialogue is not being brought up, You can see the errors in the log quite clearly in fact.
I am not sure how the download is being made, but suspect its the same routine as for installed copies, and the ability to defer installation and the use in portable versions has caused the confusion where pointers are shall we say not pointing to the right bit of code!


It after all does not result in a no nvda situation merely a failure to update.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Snapshot


Hi,

The issue has to do with coding mistakes, which should be fixed now. For this and other reasons, you should NOT use snapshots unless it is necessary.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ângelo Abrantes
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 2:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Snapshot



Here, is happening the same thing.

Ângelo Abrantes



Às 07:17 de 01-02-2018, inamuddinInam Uddin via Groups.Io escreveu:

Respected friends, last night I received an email regarding snapshot of 14816 6626 something.

I have downloaded and installed that snapshot and this morning I got an updated of another snapshot.

It was updated several times but couldn’t install.

I therefore had to uninstalled that snapshot and had to installed stable NVDA 2017.4.

Please let me know did I make any kind of mistake?

Your quick reply will be dealt with sympathetic consideration.

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1





Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@... <mailto:inamuddin09@...>
Inamuddin.ronaque@... <mailto:Inamuddin.ronaque@...>
outlook:
inam092@... <mailto:inam092@...>
yahoo:
inamuddin2010@... <mailto:inamuddin2010@...>
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
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Re: NVDA Snapshot

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Hi in fact if they wanted to download and run that snap here is the way.
go to the run box
type %temp% and hit return.
Look in that folder for.
nvda_update_laz6i7.exe

Run this file.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Snapshot


Hi,

The issue has to do with coding mistakes, which should be fixed now. For this and other reasons, you should NOT use snapshots unless it is necessary.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ângelo Abrantes
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 2:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Snapshot



Here, is happening the same thing.

Ângelo Abrantes



Às 07:17 de 01-02-2018, inamuddinInam Uddin via Groups.Io escreveu:

Respected friends, last night I received an email regarding snapshot of 14816 6626 something.

I have downloaded and installed that snapshot and this morning I got an updated of another snapshot.

It was updated several times but couldn’t install.

I therefore had to uninstalled that snapshot and had to installed stable NVDA 2017.4.

Please let me know did I make any kind of mistake?

Your quick reply will be dealt with sympathetic consideration.

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1





Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@... <mailto:inamuddin09@...>
Inamuddin.ronaque@... <mailto:Inamuddin.ronaque@...>
outlook:
inam092@... <mailto:inam092@...>
yahoo:
inamuddin2010@... <mailto:inamuddin2010@...>
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
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Re: NVDA Snapshot

 

Hi,

The issue has to do with coding mistakes, which should be fixed now. For this and other reasons, you should NOT use snapshots unless it is necessary.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ângelo Abrantes
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 2:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Snapshot

 

Here, is happening the same thing.

Ângelo Abrantes

 

Às 07:17 de 01-02-2018, inamuddinInam Uddin via Groups.Io escreveu:

Respected friends, last night I received an email regarding snapshot of 14816 6626 something.

I have downloaded and installed that snapshot and this morning I got an updated of another snapshot.

It was updated several times but couldn’t install.

I therefore had to uninstalled that snapshot and had to installed stable NVDA 2017.4.

Please let me know did I make any kind of mistake?

Your quick reply will be dealt with sympathetic consideration.

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...
Inamuddin.ronaque@...
outlook:
inam092@...
yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

 

 

 

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Re: having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

It has now finished its slow download in firefox 52, but there were some long pauses during it where I was worried it might time out. Almost back to the telephone modem days!

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file


Hi, Gene,



I was using internet explorer. When I tried to download the file in my
external hard drive, I got a message saying it couldn't be downloaded. I
also tried to see if I could save it to my downloads folder but that didn't
work either. I know it's a very large file.



Rosemarie







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file



You didn't tell us what, if anything did happen. What browser are you
using? Did you get any error messages? Did anything happen at all or did
you just remain on the page?



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>

Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:51 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: [nvda] having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file



Hi, everyone,



I just tried to download the 2018 tutorial on both my external hard drive
and my music folder but I couldn't get it to download. I even tried
c:\downloads\nvda 2018 tutorial.zip but that didn't work either. What could
I be missing here?



Thanks for your help in advance.



Rosemarie





P.S. I tried to save it to my downloads folder but that didn't work either.








Re: It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Techtalk did put your site address out this week in its podcast and on rnib connect radio.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 3:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!


Hi,

The tutorial is about 560 MB (uncompressed).

I can add a file that describes topics discussed and upload it as part of
the zip file, but this means everyone must download the file again, which
means precious bandwidth (well, some will need to download the file again).

As for putting up links to my website: I'd advise against that, as the site
may disappear someday, there might be a new location for tutorials and such.

Cheers,

joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New
Zealand
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now
COMPLETE!



Hi Joseph



I just downloaded your tutorials in the zip file and apart from the last
couple of files they were named and the other ones had section. but did not
say what they covered unless you go to the website.



Would it be possible to put into the zip file either in or html what they
refer to like on the website of yours.



I know i could easy do it my self but then every one would have to do it to
if they want to know what the files refer to.



If it was done by you every one that downloaded the zip file would have the
either or html file to refer to.



I was just thinking if some one burned your tutorials onto a disk with a
copy of nvda and gave it away.

They might not have internet access and would not know what sections cover
with out the file.

And listening to the whole lot.


If the file is html they can as you know just jump down by headings then
refer on the html file to which mp3 file it points to.

Gene nz
.


And also refer to your website when they do have internet access.



On 2/1/2018 12:50 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Dear global NVDA community,



It is done! I'm delighted to announce the immediate release of the
long-awaited update to a popular series of free tutorials for NVDA users:
Welcome to NVDA, now in its third edition. Based on NVDA 2018.1 with some
features from 2017.4, this tutorial set will take you on a cruise around
NVDA world, including installation, concepts, usage, commands,
configuration, tools, add-ons and beyond.



The complete package (as a zip file) with introduction and what's new, the
main tutorial series, and two addenda can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/Welcome%20to%20NVDA%202018%20Audio%20Tu
torial.zip



The changes made between 2015 and 2018 editions are too numerous to list,
but the highlights include use of a completely new speech synthesizer, web
browsing using Microsoft Edge and Mozilla Firefox, new settings and
concepts, and so many changes to add-ons and other topics. It'll take pages
to talk about changes between 2013 and 2018 editions, as there are so many
to list.



Copyright notices: NVDA (NonVisual Desktop Access) is copyright 2006-2018 by
NV Access Limited, released under GPL 2. Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Edge,
Windows OneCore voices and related products are copyright Microsoft
Corporation. Firefox is copyright Mozilla Foundation. Other products
mentioned in the tutorial set are copyrighted by makers of these products.
Welcome to NVDA tutorial set is copyright 2013-2018 Joseph Lee, with
permissive license for free distribution and sharing.



One major announcement: this will be my last grand scale tutorial project
for the NVDA community. We have better tutorials now, including the official
NVDA Basic Training module from NV Access. If anyone wants to produce the
fourth edition of Welcome to NVDA (perhaps in 2020), you have my blessing.
All I ask of you is that you do it not for fame or glory, but because you
love this community.



Also, regarding payments for my work: the Welcome to NVDA series is, was,
and should remain free in consideration for many people who do not have
financial security to pay for assistance or product tutorials. If you insist
on paying me for this tutorial, I'd rather ask you to donate to NV Access
instead so NVDA screen reader development can continue. If you still insist
on paying me (apart from offering me a scholarship at Cal State LA; joking),
I'd still ask you to donate to NV Access, or if you want, a worthy project
that improves lives in the long run.



Other final matters:



* Text transcriptions are always welcome.
* Translations are more than welcome.
* Converting this into other formats is welcome (including DAISY).
* I hereby give you permission to quote my tutorial for different
purposes (writing essays, as part of a research paper, websites, mainstream
media and what not). All I ask is a small citation.



Final remarks: I'd like to thank you all for your support for the last six
weeks. All of you are a part of this effort.



Enjoy (and share) the tutorial set, and once again, welcome to NVDA 2018!

Cheers,

Joseph



--


Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.




Re: having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

It might be a a bandwidth issue. its a very slow connection and a very large file. Its only running at 1.2meg a second here with long pauses as it goes along.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 2:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file


Hi, everyone,



I just tried to download the 2018 tutorial on both my external hard drive
and my music folder but I couldn't get it to download. I even tried
c:\downloads\nvda 2018 tutorial.zip but that didn't work either. What could
I be missing here?



Thanks for your help in advance.



Rosemarie



P.S. I tried to save it to my downloads folder but that didn't work either.






Re: NVDA Snapshot

Ângelo Abrantes
 

Here, is happening the same thing.

Ângelo Abrantes


Às 07:17 de 01-02-2018, inamuddinInam Uddin via Groups.Io escreveu:

Respected friends, last night I received an email regarding snapshot of 14816 6626 something.

I have downloaded and installed that snapshot and this morning I got an updated of another snapshot.

It was updated several times but couldn’t install.

I therefore had to uninstalled that snapshot and had to installed stable NVDA 2017.4.

Please let me know did I make any kind of mistake?

Your quick reply will be dealt with sympathetic consideration.

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...
Inamuddin.ronaque@...
outlook:
inam092@...
yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

 



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Re: It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Hi Joseph, One thing to warn people about the download from that location is only running about 1.2mb a second so its going to be quite a long download.
What is needed is a faster site.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 11:50 PM
Subject: [nvda] It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!


Dear global NVDA community,



It is done! I'm delighted to announce the immediate release of the
long-awaited update to a popular series of free tutorials for NVDA users:
Welcome to NVDA, now in its third edition. Based on NVDA 2018.1 with some
features from 2017.4, this tutorial set will take you on a cruise around
NVDA world, including installation, concepts, usage, commands,
configuration, tools, add-ons and beyond.



The complete package (as a zip file) with introduction and what's new, the
main tutorial series, and two addenda can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/Welcome%20to%20NVDA%202018%20Audio%20Tu
torial.zip



The changes made between 2015 and 2018 editions are too numerous to list,
but the highlights include use of a completely new speech synthesizer, web
browsing using Microsoft Edge and Mozilla Firefox, new settings and
concepts, and so many changes to add-ons and other topics. It'll take pages
to talk about changes between 2013 and 2018 editions, as there are so many
to list.



Copyright notices: NVDA (NonVisual Desktop Access) is copyright 2006-2018 by
NV Access Limited, released under GPL 2. Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Edge,
Windows OneCore voices and related products are copyright Microsoft
Corporation. Firefox is copyright Mozilla Foundation. Other products
mentioned in the tutorial set are copyrighted by makers of these products.
Welcome to NVDA tutorial set is copyright 2013-2018 Joseph Lee, with
permissive license for free distribution and sharing.



One major announcement: this will be my last grand scale tutorial project
for the NVDA community. We have better tutorials now, including the official
NVDA Basic Training module from NV Access. If anyone wants to produce the
fourth edition of Welcome to NVDA (perhaps in 2020), you have my blessing.
All I ask of you is that you do it not for fame or glory, but because you
love this community.



Also, regarding payments for my work: the Welcome to NVDA series is, was,
and should remain free in consideration for many people who do not have
financial security to pay for assistance or product tutorials. If you insist
on paying me for this tutorial, I'd rather ask you to donate to NV Access
instead so NVDA screen reader development can continue. If you still insist
on paying me (apart from offering me a scholarship at Cal State LA; joking),
I'd still ask you to donate to NV Access, or if you want, a worthy project
that improves lives in the long run.



Other final matters:



* Text transcriptions are always welcome.
* Translations are more than welcome.
* Converting this into other formats is welcome (including DAISY).
* I hereby give you permission to quote my tutorial for different
purposes (writing essays, as part of a research paper, websites, mainstream
media and what not). All I ask is a small citation.



Final remarks: I'd like to thank you all for your support for the last six
weeks. All of you are a part of this effort.



Enjoy (and share) the tutorial set, and once again, welcome to NVDA 2018!

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA And The Password

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In what context does this occur. Obviously, nvda responds to what the application is doing to control this. If you have echo keys as they are typed on on some dodgy web sites I've noticed it saying p star a star etc, when the keyboard repeat should be off. I have not seen this on good software or web sites. s. Some web sites allow you to toggle speaking of passwords on and off of course, and there is I think an nvda add on that allows you to hear passwords.After all if you are alone and want to make sure you typed it correctly, why not? Thus I think in order to answer your question we would need to know the specific case when its happening and you think it should not so others can test it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "inamuddinInam Uddin via Groups.Io" <charlsdarwin1=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 9:27 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA And The Password


Respected friends, sometimes NVDA speaks the password which I type instead off the star.
Please let me know how can I prevent it by speaking the actual character of my password!
I sincerely hope that my email will be answered as earliest!
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