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Re: orbit reader20 now on sale

Sarah k Alawami
 

They are loud. You will be able to hear it over the mic. Even though I don't like the fact you specifically need a windows machine to update (they tell me to leave my opinions to my self on that one and just deal with it)  I might get me one at least for voiceover work or what not, or just to practice reading braille.

On Feb 2, 2018, at 4:49 AM, Charles Adkins <cadkins6739@...> wrote:

Question, how well would the Orbit work in a radio studio? Do the dots make much noise as they refresh and how fast do they refresh while moving from line to line? Thanks. 


On Feb 2, 2018, at 7:47 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

Hi
Just to let you all know, the orbit reader20 low cost $449 braille display is now on sale. It works very good with NVDA. It is liquid and dust resistant, dots do not give when pressed, feels like braille on elevator doors or ATM machines, very rugged and durable meant for use in extreme hostile environments. You can buy it from
 
 
Josh
 
 
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Re: orbit reader20 now on sale

Adriani Botez
 

It says available soon. I don’t find an order link or so.

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Josh Kennedy
Gesendet: Freitag, 2. Februar 2018 13:47
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] orbit reader20 now on sale

 

Hi

Just to let you all know, the orbit reader20 low cost $449 braille display is now on sale. It works very good with NVDA. It is liquid and dust resistant, dots do not give when pressed, feels like braille on elevator doors or ATM machines, very rugged and durable meant for use in extreme hostile environments. You can buy it from

 

www.aph.org

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 
Re: Please explain this info I got about NVDA!

Joseph Lee
 

Hi,

Important note: this will be my last post on this forum for a while, as I’m desperate to take a break from everything NVDA for a while (except for translations). Besides that:

If I understand her argument, your friend prefers the core functions of NVDA to be written in C++, and let others build things on top via Python and other languages. This is called “language binding”, and this is precisely how wxPython is written: C++ core with python bindings.

In case of NVDA, yes, the primary language in use is Python, but some parts (notably features that require speed) are written in C++. It is arranged that way because Python allows rapid development, but the cost, as she points out, is long-term viability in terms of maintenance.

As for upgrading to Python 3: we’re getting there. A crucial dependency has just been satisfied, so it’ll be matter of time before the upgrade can commence.

As for your friend: please have her email me with any questions, as well as have her CC info@... for further details. Or you can ask your friend to join nvda-devel mailing list.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 1:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Please explain this info I got about NVDA!

 

Hi all,

I was talking to a friend on Facebook. She is a programmer. This went over my head. We were talking about python and NVDA. I will put right below what she said, so you can comment on it, because this is so over my head! She really wants to get involved with the NVDA project.

Here is what she said.

I am a fan of Python as a primary language for a system.  Something like NVDA should have a C++ core with language-of-choice wrappers.  Python is having trouble evolving without completely changing the language, which leaves the risk of building a future of dead, legacy libraries quite high.  It reminds me of what happened to FORTRAN.  Moreover, Python is joy well suited to continually running, closed loops services like NVDA would be.

that said, upgrading to Python 3 is a helpful step that MUST be done.  It is unfortunate that Python was the initial language of choice because this will have to be done again in the coming years.  By the time all is said and done, Python will end up looking looking like "JavaScript without curly braces", which implies the question, "why not have just adopted JavaScriptNode.js in the first place?"

Please explain all of this, and I hope it makes sense to you what she is saying.

She is really interested in NVDA being a programmer herself.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 
Re: tw blue query

anthony borg
 

Hi

First of all many thanks for your help.

Can you please send me the shortcuts of how to use it properly as it is completely new for me.

Thanks in advance.

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 01 February 2018 19:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] tw blue query

 

Per the docs, hit alt windows i (that's the keyboard layout I use, consult the key guide) type in the user name such as ke7zum and then hit enter.



On Feb 1, 2018, at 9:56 AM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:

 

Hi folks 

Can someone explain to me how to add somebody twitter address to tw blue please? 

Thanks in advance 

Anthony  

 
Re: orbit reader20 now on sale

Charles Adkins <cadkins6739@...>
 

Question, how well would the Orbit work in a radio studio? Do the dots make much noise as they refresh and how fast do they refresh while moving from line to line? Thanks. 


On Feb 2, 2018, at 7:47 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

Hi

Just to let you all know, the orbit reader20 low cost $449 braille display is now on sale. It works very good with NVDA. It is liquid and dust resistant, dots do not give when pressed, feels like braille on elevator doors or ATM machines, very rugged and durable meant for use in extreme hostile environments. You can buy it from

 

www.aph.org

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 
Re: What's App?

abdul muhamin
 

Try it, and let us know, if it’s a windows store app, it maby accessible

 

regards, Abdulmuhamin Yousaf!
head of content department at
www.blindHelp.net

 

From: Lino Morales
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 7:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What's App?

 

Hi guys. I just learned that the What’s App desktop app has made it to the Microsoft Store. Is it accessible? I want to play with it. Thanks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 
orbit reader20 now on sale

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

Hi

Just to let you all know, the orbit reader20 low cost $449 braille display is now on sale. It works very good with NVDA. It is liquid and dust resistant, dots do not give when pressed, feels like braille on elevator doors or ATM machines, very rugged and durable meant for use in extreme hostile environments. You can buy it from

 

www.aph.org

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 
Adding custom entries to insert symbols dialogue?

Jacob Kruger
 

Bit of a silly question, but, while I have the insert symbols add-on showing up in my add-ons manager, I can't find anything like it's data files under either %appData%, or under program files?

Asking since would have assumed that it might allow me to add an entry to the list of symbols on offer?

Jacob Kruger
Blind biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
Please explain this info I got about NVDA!

David Moore
 

Hi all,

I was talking to a friend on Facebook. She is a programmer. This went over my head. We were talking about python and NVDA. I will put right below what she said, so you can comment on it, because this is so over my head! She really wants to get involved with the NVDA project.

Here is what she said.

I am a fan of Python as a primary language for a system.  Something like NVDA should have a C++ core with language-of-choice wrappers.  Python is having trouble evolving without completely changing the language, which leaves the risk of building a future of dead, legacy libraries quite high.  It reminds me of what happened to FORTRAN.  Moreover, Python is joy well suited to continually running, closed loops services like NVDA would be.

that said, upgrading to Python 3 is a helpful step that MUST be done.  It is unfortunate that Python was the initial language of choice because this will have to be done again in the coming years.  By the time all is said and done, Python will end up looking looking like "JavaScript without curly braces", which implies the question, "why not have just adopted JavaScriptNode.js in the first place?"

Please explain all of this, and I hope it makes sense to you what she is saying.

She is really interested in NVDA being a programmer herself.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 
Re: How to not start NVDA at login?

Chris
 

If nvda runs on the login screen then you can bring up the nvda menu and change the way nvda starts or in your case not at all to get into windows

After the required changes save the settings and restart, then you should be good to go

 

 

From: Tony Malykh
Sent: 02 February 2018 04:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] How to not start NVDA at login?

 

Hi all,

I somehow broke my NVDA by writing a buggy addon and now NVDA doesn’t work. Moreover it somehow prevents the other screenreaders (jaws, narrator) from running. To make things even worse, the keyboard doesn’t seem to be working - otherwise I would’ve opened a command line terminal and typed up the command to erase the file in appdata\roaming\NVDA\globalPlugins. Insert+Q doesn’t work either.

 

So my question is: Is there a way to not start NVDA at login time? Or at least make it not load the addons?

 

NVDA seems to be working fine at the login screen where I need to enter the password, but that is probably because it doesn’t load addons at this time. Once I log in, I hear the four tones NVDA start sound and right after that my keyboard is pretty much dead. I know it’s my fault, I wrote some buggy addon code, but now I really want to revive my computer.

 

Thank you

Tony

 

 

 

 
RES: [nvda] In-Process 1st February 2018

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Hello!

Regarding to visual studio, does it apply to vs 2017 comunity edition?

I just installed it and fork a copy of nvda. But it seams to freeze when I start to navigate in code.

Maybe I need some shortcuts to perform the most common tasks in vs.

 

Thanks

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 

De: Quentin Christensen
Enviado:quinta-feira, 1 de fevereiro de 2018 00:37
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] In-Process 1st February 2018

 

Hi everyone,

 

In-Process is out!  This week, we've got a sneak peek at some of the upcoming features you'll find in NVDA 2018.1, and recent improvements to Visual Studio for those interested in programming and wanting an accessible IDE.

 

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

 
Re: How to not start NVDA at login?

Gene
 

You should be able to go into save mode, with sighted help.  You can then uninstall NVDA or, perhaps, someone can tell us how to remove the add on files. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to not start NVDA at login?

Well if you have a portable nvda on you or can get one and maybe a
sightling to right click nvda icon for you and quit it or end it in task
manager then you can use that and then well run a system restore, or
just clear the mangled file that may work.

Thats probably the only thing I can suggest.

I have had this happen myself with some software I have always had this
happen with some users I have done work for.

I luckily had the system backed up and I was able to reformat and make
the issue go away.

I never really looked into fixing this when it happened to me once
before as after a good reformat it never came back but maybe I was lucky.




On 2/02/2018 5:30 p.m., Tony Malykh wrote:
> Hi all,
> I somehow broke my NVDA by writing a buggy addon and now NVDA doesn’t work. Moreover it somehow prevents the other screenreaders (jaws, narrator) from running. To make things even worse, the keyboard doesn’t seem to be working - otherwise I would’ve opened a command line terminal and typed up the command to erase the file in appdata\roaming\NVDA\globalPlugins. Insert+Q doesn’t work either.
>
> So my question is: Is there a way to not start NVDA at login time? Or at least make it not load the addons?
>
> NVDA seems to be working fine at the login screen where I need to enter the password, but that is probably because it doesn’t load addons at this time. Once I log in, I hear the four tones NVDA start sound and right after that my keyboard is pretty much dead. I know it’s my fault, I wrote some buggy addon code, but now I really want to revive my computer.
>
> Thank you
> Tony
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
Re: How to not start NVDA at login?

Shaun Everiss
 

Well if you have a portable nvda on you or can get one and maybe a sightling to right click nvda icon for you and quit it or end it in task manager then you can use that and then well run a system restore, or just clear the mangled file that may work.

Thats probably the only thing I can suggest.

I have had this happen myself with some software I have always had this happen with some users I have done work for.

I luckily had the system backed up and I was able to reformat and make the issue go away.

I never really looked into fixing this when it happened to me once before as after a good reformat it never came back but maybe I was lucky.

On 2/02/2018 5:30 p.m., Tony Malykh wrote:
Hi all,
I somehow broke my NVDA by writing a buggy addon and now NVDA doesn’t work. Moreover it somehow prevents the other screenreaders (jaws, narrator) from running. To make things even worse, the keyboard doesn’t seem to be working - otherwise I would’ve opened a command line terminal and typed up the command to erase the file in appdata\roaming\NVDA\globalPlugins. Insert+Q doesn’t work either.

So my question is: Is there a way to not start NVDA at login time? Or at least make it not load the addons?

NVDA seems to be working fine at the login screen where I need to enter the password, but that is probably because it doesn’t load addons at this time. Once I log in, I hear the four tones NVDA start sound and right after that my keyboard is pretty much dead. I know it’s my fault, I wrote some buggy addon code, but now I really want to revive my computer.

Thank you
Tony


Sent from my iPhone
How to not start NVDA at login?

Tony Malykh
 

Hi all,
I somehow broke my NVDA by writing a buggy addon and now NVDA doesn’t work. Moreover it somehow prevents the other screenreaders (jaws, narrator) from running. To make things even worse, the keyboard doesn’t seem to be working - otherwise I would’ve opened a command line terminal and typed up the command to erase the file in appdata\roaming\NVDA\globalPlugins. Insert+Q doesn’t work either.

So my question is: Is there a way to not start NVDA at login time? Or at least make it not load the addons?

NVDA seems to be working fine at the login screen where I need to enter the password, but that is probably because it doesn’t load addons at this time. Once I log in, I hear the four tones NVDA start sound and right after that my keyboard is pretty much dead. I know it’s my fault, I wrote some buggy addon code, but now I really want to revive my computer.

Thank you
Tony


Sent from my iPhone
Re: NVDA snapshots!

inamuddinInam Uddin
 

Dear, did your NVDA not tell you that the word sonday is wrong and the word Sunday is right?

I’m using the latest NVDA snapshot and when I typed the word Sunday as sonday it gave me the sound meaning that I typed the wrong word!

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From: Bob Edenhofer
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 8:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA snapshots!

 

I'm also on the development team for NVDA! I started on sonday! I'm on

the second snapshot already! I'm running the snapshots as a portable! I

have them on a USB hard drive!

 

 

 

 
NVDA snapshots!

Bob Edenhofer <bob.edenhofer@...>
 

I'm also on the development team for NVDA! I started on sonday! I'm on the second snapshot already! I'm running the snapshots as a portable! I have them on a USB hard drive!
What's App?

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Hi guys. I just learned that the What’s App desktop app has made it to the Microsoft Store. Is it accessible? I want to play with it. Thanks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 
Re: Welcome to NVDA.zip

Leo
 

amazing!

really fast indeed..


Lev
El 1/2/2018 a las 16:55, David Moore escribió:

I got it!

Thanks a lot.

I use Open Drive as well.

It downloads very fast in Chrome.

Also, I used my Ethernet cable instead of WiFi. The download took two minutes less using the Ethernet instead of WiFi. Just said that in case you want to try both Internet connections.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Arlene
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 1:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA.zip

 

Here’s what’s promised. Hopefully people who want this can get it via open drive!

 

https://od.lk/f/NzZfNjM3NzEzMTRf

 
Re: Lost USB connection with braille display after resuming from Windows 10 lock screen

Jason White
 

Just wondering whether anyone else has encountered this issue, or whether it’s peculiar to my situation (original report below).

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2018 6:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Lost USB connection with braille display after resuming from Windows 10 lock screen

 

Testing with a Freedom Scientific (now VFO) Focus 40 Blue braille display, NVDA 2017.4 and the latest Windows 10 1709 release, if I switch to the Windows 10 lock screen and then allow the host computer and the braille display to suspend, the display is not detected after resuming from suspend. The only solution I found was to restart NVDA, after which the display was again detected.

 

Can anyone else reproduce this issue?

 

I can test with a Baum display as well, but I haven’t done so yet.

 
Re: Welcome to NVDA.zip

Jason White
 

If you want to find out how fast your connection is (whether wireless or ethernet), I recommend http://www.speedtest.net/

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 5:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA.zip

 

I got it!

Thanks a lot.

I use Open Drive as well.

It downloads very fast in Chrome.

Also, I used my Ethernet cable instead of WiFi. The download took two minutes less using the Ethernet instead of WiFi. Just said that in case you want to try both Internet connections.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Arlene
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 1:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA.zip

 

Here’s what’s promised. Hopefully people who want this can get it via open drive!

 

https://od.lk/f/NzZfNjM3NzEzMTRf

 
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