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Re: testing for rules

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Sorry the elephant came through, anyone know how to get it out of my computer? grin...
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Subject: [nvda] testing for rules


Testing for rules in outlook,

Thanks




Re: trouble downloading

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Only insofar as IE has a filter that seems to block things that are not signed and not often downloaded but never did find the option to turn this ninny system off properly, which is why I use Firefox 52, but now am having page display issues instead. hand me a headache pill!
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Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:57 AM
Subject: [nvda] trouble downloading


Good evening list, Marv here. Been having trouble downloading things. Using the latest nvdaand windows 10 1709 billing. Cannot download files such as audio books in internet explorer, or firefox. Got google chrome installed and I can download things with it fine so far. Microsoft worked with me and could not find the problem; it is a new computer, also. Has anyone else had this same kind of trouble? Marv

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Re: Need urgent help with the FISH memo

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I was just thinking, maybe this is one time only a human can be of use.
Be my eyes on a mobile perhaps.
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Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need urgent help with the FISH memo


Well I’ll keep trying. I’ve got all the time in the world. Ive been on at least 5 or 6 websites and they point me to the same PDF doc which is an image. It’s a sahem or shadow Government can’t provide a declassified doc in text or otherwise.

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From: Gene<mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 8:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need urgent help with the FISH memo

If this is an image, then there may be a sight that can translate it for you. But it's unnecessary. Search with whatever search engine you want and see if you find a PDF with text. It is very unusual for these sorts of documents, released as news items not to be available as PDF documents containing text that you can download and read in Adobe reader or whatever you use that does so.

Also, I am telling you that I don't appreciate your ill temper, rudeness and arrogance. It is arrogant and condescending to tell someone that has gone through the trouble to provide a link, to try again. If you don't think the site is credible you can say that and say, I'd appreciate it if you find me another link or say something like, for that reason, would you please find me another link. And there is no excuse for swearing on the list. I don't particularly care myself, but the list has all sorts of members and some people may find it offensive.

Gene
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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 7:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need urgent help with the FISA memo

Um no damn it! I don’t need bloody advice on how to search the Internet! All I want is someone to make this PDF which is an image readable in a format all blind folks can read! How damn hard is that for you to understand sir! I shouldn’t have to search every damn site to just point me to an inaccisible image!

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From: Gene<mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 8:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need urgent help with the FISA memo

If it says the full pdf version then it's very likely the full PDF version. Even so-called liberal hack web sites, as you intolerantly call them, aren't stupid. they won't damage their credibility by doing something so stupid as to show something that is available all over the net from other sources, claim it is the full version, and then change or omit information. Unlike many people, I consciously try not to live in an echo chamber. I listen to some opinions I disagree with and I don't assume dishonesty or bad intent. At times I find something I agree with and at times, I understand something better.

If you don't want to read the PDF from that liberal hack web site, then do a Google search for what you are looking for. I realize that there are people who don't know how to do good Internet searches. I'd be willing to help you learn how if you don't. But I'm not going to do it for you. That isn't helping you. That's doing something for you and not teaching you how to find things the next time.

Gene
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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 6:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need urgent help with the FISA memo

That’s a Liberal hack website sir. Try again. I want a *fully *accessible *PDF! No strings attached. I iknow that their some smart people on this list who can make that happen.

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Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 7:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Need urgent help with the FISA memo

Google. It's your buddy. Be prepared to be disappointed though.


https://www.vox.com/2018/2/2/16957588/nunes-memo-released-full-text-read-pdf-declassified


On 2/2/2018 16:37, Lino Morales wrote:

I can’t read the image with Adobe Reader DC. I used NVDA key plus R.
How can I read the entire doc? I want to read this extremely badly.
Any help? Thanks.

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Re: Need urgent help with the FISA memo

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I'm not sure what you mean, are you saying you have a pdf which is one of those which is just a scanned image of the text?

I know what I'd do, send it to whoever sent it with a copy of accessible guidelines as I just did with our local police yesterday.
However if this is not an option, then assuming windows 10, presumably the cloud based ocr is the best bet depending on language of the text.
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Subject: [nvda] Need urgent help with the FISA memo


I can’t read the image with Adobe Reader DC. I used NVDA key plus R. How can I read the entire doc? I want to read this extremely badly. Any help? Thanks.

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Re: Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

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I'm sure you were aware that there was a now dead comedian who made a lot of money with his monologues where he substituted sounds for Punctuation! Victor Borge'

Now my one problem with having a mode like this is, given the number of different marks and their meaning in different circumstances in different languages, it could need one heck of a lot of individual sounds to cover them all. I do know what you are getting at different sorts of brackets and colons etc, are main candidates, with underscores being also useful.

Maybe this is add on territory ie a programmers version as most of us prefer not to hear these greater thans etc all over the place, but obviously such things are important in programming as are brackets and indents etc.
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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 10:16 PM
Subject: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds


Hello all,

Is there a way to substitute punctuation marks with custom sounds? I am a developer and often times I have to listen to tongue twisters of punctuation marks, like "left bracket right brace left paren ..." I wish to replace all these parens and brackets with sounds. Is there a way to do so in NVDA?

Thanks
Tony



Re: Next snaps broken

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Yes, Its a problem with seeing parameters of the old copy from the look of it. I run next only as portables. Its important for others to do this from now on as a lot of breakages are likely as the migration to a new version of Python and wx widgets are integrated before the middle of this year.
I'd stick to master myself, as the working copy. Also have a portable version of the last stable release on you system as well as then at least you can go back by installing that.
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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Next snaps broken


I tried to install the next snapshop over a previous snapshot and it failed.

On 2/2/2018 2:46 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
The workaround is to get an earlier version of next snapshot, install that
one, and update.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Subject: [nvda] Next snaps broken

Be aware that if you are running next as a portable it either downloads and
won't run, or if run it creates another instance unmodified in a new folder
or just hangs up windows when you run it.
Windows 7.
So I'd steer clear till they fix it.
I just had to shut the machine down with the power button after trying to
manually run the update exe file today.

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Re: Next snaps broken

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Hi its precisely why I use it as a portable as it then does not screw up the running installed copy of course.
However think this problem highlights that portable versions have their own issues that may not affect installed ones.
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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Next snaps broken


Hi,
Another way might be to remove NVDA, install a previous next snapshot, then update.
Technical: someone is working on letting you postpone NVDA updates once downloaded. Apparently this is causing issues like this, so the developer who's working on this comments that it'll take a while for this feature to settle.
An important reminder: this is one of the reasons why I always warn you NOT to install next snapshots unless you are really adventurous or you have to, as next snapshots are alpha-level code. Master, fine, because it includes features tested by alpha testers for a while. If you do use next snapshots, you should do it if you want to report early problems. You may get an impression that next snapshots are stable, and that's likely because the code that gets tested go through a review process to make sure it is stable for everyone.
In case of future next snapshots: there will come a time (as early as next week) that you'll get a chance to learn why I warned you about next snapshots. The snapshot has to do with a crucial subsystem that is required to upgrade to Python 3, a subsystem I've been working on for the last few months. For some, you can ignore this, but if you start seeing errors with add-ons, that's because these add-ons were not updated to support newer wxPython version. And that's just a start: once we start upgrading to Python 3, you'll encounter more errors early. For those who believe that next snapshots are stable, I'm really sorry to say that it is just an illusion, hence my warning and the "real" reason why it may seem stable.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Next snaps broken

I tried to install the next snapshop over a previous snapshot and it failed.

On 2/2/2018 2:46 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
The workaround is to get an earlier version of next snapshot, install
that one, and update.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Subject: [nvda] Next snaps broken

Be aware that if you are running next as a portable it either
downloads and won't run, or if run it creates another instance
unmodified in a new folder or just hangs up windows when you run it.
Windows 7.
So I'd steer clear till they fix it.
I just had to shut the machine down with the power button after
trying to manually run the update exe file today.

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testing again

Richard Kuzma
 

Thanks

 


testing for rules

Richard Kuzma
 

Testing for rules in outlook,

Thanks

 


trouble downloading

marvin kotler
 

Good evening list, Marv here.  Been having trouble downloading things. Using the latest nvdaand windows 10 1709 billing.  Cannot download files such as audio books in internet explorer, or firefox. Got google chrome installed and I can download things with it fine so far.  Microsoft worked with me and could not find the problem; it is a new computer, also.  Has anyone else had this same kind of trouble? Marv   

 

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Re: Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

Adriani Botez
 

Tony,

yes. But it should not be very hard to specify in the code a new function. You can discuss this with the author. That‘s why I said it certainly can be implemented. Conceptually this addon should be able to do it for sentence marks as well...

Best
Adriani
P.s.: If you want a new addon, in the source code are many strings which could be useful.


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 03.02.2018 um 03:41 schrieb Tony Malykh <anton.malykh@gmail.com>:

Adriani

How do you do this in AudioThemes addon exactly? I just installed it and I don't see how you can configure sounds for specific characters.


Tony



On 2/2/2018 5:57 PM, Rayn Darren wrote:
Awesome, thanks so much!

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Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 5:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

Here is it:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/AudioThemes3D.en.html


Best
Adriani

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Gesendet: Samstag, 3. Februar 2018 02:54
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

Never heard of it, but I don't use addons. Where can I get it?

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Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 5:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

I am prety sure that this can be implemented in the addon Audiotheme 3d.


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Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Rayn Darren
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. Februar 2018 00:30
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

I totally agree, this is a fantastic idea for an addon! An addition would be a sound when encountering an open bracket, if in fact there is a closing one the sound would be different then a non-paired bracket. I know nothing about python and have worked very little with sound, but would love to both learn and help with this, how do we go about getting it made?

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Garwood
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 2:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

Hi,
NVDA itself can't do this.
Having said that, in my opinion, that is a pretty darn cool idea for an addon. Replacing symbols, letters, or even whole words/strings with sound effects.
I know JAWS has, or at least used to have, a feature like that. I had tons of fun with it. Never thought it could come into practical use though. But yeah. Certainly as a developer, trying to find stray or missing braces, brackets, parentheses, quotes, improperly escaped characters etc is very tricky, and either involves arrowing through character by character, or sit there and listen to it read the whole line including punctuation, which gets rather tedious rather quickly.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Malykh
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 10:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

Hello all,

Is there a way to substitute punctuation marks with custom sounds? I am a developer and often times I have to listen to tongue twisters of punctuation marks, like "left bracket right brace left paren ..." I wish to replace all these parens and brackets with sounds. Is there a way to do so in NVDA?

Thanks
Tony































Re: nvda tutorial question

 

Hello

I will give that a try.

thanks

Hank

On 2/2/2018 11:59 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
If I remember correctly, you have to shift tab to the link and hit enter on it. It's been awhile since I downloaded something from open drive but I think that's what you do.



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 10:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda tutorial question

Hello I am really behind on emailsso bare with me.

I saw that some one uploaded the tutorial to

https://od.lk/f/NzZfNjM3NzEzMTRf

when going to this link I see the link to the zip file but when I try to download it nothing happens

is there a step when using open drive to download a file?

thanks

Hank









Re: nvda tutorial question

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

If I remember correctly, you have to shift tab to the link and hit enter on it. It's been awhile since I downloaded something from open drive but I think that's what you do.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 10:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda tutorial question

Hello I am really behind on emailsso bare with me.

I saw that some one uploaded the tutorial to

https://od.lk/f/NzZfNjM3NzEzMTRf

when going to this link I see the link to the zip file but when I try to download it nothing happens

is there a step when using open drive to download a file?

thanks

Hank


nvda tutorial question

 

Hello I am really behind on emailsso bare with me.

I saw that some one uploaded the tutorial to

https://od.lk/f/NzZfNjM3NzEzMTRf

when going to this link I see the link to the zip file but when I try to download it nothing happens

is there a step when using open drive to download a file?

thanks

Hank


twitter clients for the blind

 

Hello can I get the names of the twitter clients that are made for the blind and are free?

I know that twblue is one of them but what are the others?

I seem there was like 2 or 3 of them


Re: having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file

 

can I get the link?
I am downloading off of the main website and it keeps stopping it could be do to the fact that I am using my apartments wifi and it is really shi**y
my main internet is off until further notice
if anyone could please get me the one drive link I will see if that fares any better
I am using firefox
thanks
Hank

On 2/1/2018 11:18 AM, Arlene wrote:

Hi, speaking of slow! I tried to upload the zipped files onto open drive.  But it did not go through.  I left the computer and went to do something else. When I came back. It still was 55 minutes to upload. Now it’s on open drive and I sent the list the link. If anybody wants it.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: February-01-18 4:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file

 

If it was, then that would be very uncommon.  It may be that, just having been announced, a lot of people, far more than usual, tried to download the file at the same time.  But I'm skeptical because we heard no reports from others and if there were such an issue, we would expect to see people talking about how slow the download is or that they couldn't do so.  Therefore, I'm very skeptical.

 

Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file

 

It might be a a bandwidth issue. its a very slow connection and a very large
file. Its only running at 1.2meg a second here with long pauses as it goes
along.
 Brian

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Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 2:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] having trouble downloading the tutorial in zipped file


> Hi, everyone,
>
>
>
> I just tried to download the 2018 tutorial on both my external hard drive
> and my music folder but I couldn't get it to download. I even tried
> c:\downloads\nvda 2018 tutorial.zip but that didn't work either. What
> could
> I be missing here?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help in advance.
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
> P.S. I tried to save it to my downloads folder but that didn't work
> either.
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!

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  I feel download speed is very soon, in Asia Taiwan, used 2 minutes finished work.

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan
Rosemarie Chavarria 於 2018/2/2 上午 12:50 寫道:

I agree. I'm not picky about the speed as far as downloading something. One time I downloaded an oldies show and it took about 18 minutes but I went off and did something else while the show was downloading.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 4:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!

 

A faster site isn't needed.  People simply have to not expect everything instantly in this childish instant gratification of everything culture.  It took me about eighteen minutes to download the material.  Tragic that it took so long.  So I did other things while the download occurred.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 4:03 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!

 

Hi Joseph, One thing to warn people about the download from that location is
only running about 1.2mb a second so its going to be quite a long download.
 What is needed is a faster site.
 Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 11:50 PM
Subject: [nvda] It is accomplished: Welcome to NVDA 2018 is now COMPLETE!


> Dear global NVDA community,
>
>
>
> It is done! I'm delighted to announce the immediate release of the
> long-awaited update to a popular series of free tutorials for NVDA users:
> Welcome to NVDA, now in its third edition. Based on NVDA 2018.1 with some
> features from 2017.4, this tutorial set will take you on a cruise around
> NVDA world, including installation, concepts, usage, commands,
> configuration, tools, add-ons and beyond.
>
>
>
> The complete package (as a zip file) with introduction and what's new, the
> main tutorial series, and two addenda can be found at:
>
> http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/Welcome%20to%20NVDA%202018%20Audio%20Tu
> torial.zip
>
>
>
> The changes made between 2015 and 2018 editions are too numerous to list,
> but the highlights include use of a completely new speech synthesizer, web
> browsing using Microsoft Edge and Mozilla Firefox, new settings and
> concepts, and so many changes to add-ons and other topics. It'll take
> pages
> to talk about changes between 2013 and 2018 editions, as there are so many
> to list.
>
>
>
> Copyright notices: NVDA (NonVisual Desktop Access) is copyright 2006-2018
> by
> NV Access Limited, released under GPL 2. Microsoft Windows, Microsoft
> Edge,
> Windows OneCore voices and related products are copyright Microsoft
> Corporation. Firefox is copyright Mozilla Foundation. Other products
> mentioned in the tutorial set are copyrighted by makers of these products.
> Welcome to NVDA tutorial set is copyright 2013-2018 Joseph Lee, with
> permissive license for free distribution and sharing.
>
>
>
> One major announcement: this will be my last grand scale tutorial project
> for the NVDA community. We have better tutorials now, including the
> official
> NVDA Basic Training module from NV Access. If anyone wants to produce the
> fourth edition of Welcome to NVDA (perhaps in 2020), you have my blessing.
> All I ask of you is that you do it not for fame or glory, but because you
> love this community.
>
>
>
> Also, regarding payments for my work: the Welcome to NVDA series is, was,
> and should remain free in consideration for many people who do not have
> financial security to pay for assistance or product tutorials. If you
> insist
> on paying me for this tutorial, I'd rather ask you to donate to NV Access
> instead so NVDA screen reader development can continue. If you still
> insist
> on paying me (apart from offering me a scholarship at Cal State LA;
> joking),
> I'd still ask you to donate to NV Access, or if you want, a worthy project
> that improves lives in the long run.
>
>
>
> Other final matters:
>
>
>
> * Text transcriptions are always welcome.
> * Translations are more than welcome.
> * Converting this into other formats is welcome (including DAISY).
> * I hereby give you permission to quote my tutorial for different
> purposes (writing essays, as part of a research paper, websites,
> mainstream
> media and what not). All I ask is a small citation.
>
>
>
> Final remarks: I'd like to thank you all for your support for the last six
> weeks. All of you are a part of this effort.
>
>
>
> Enjoy (and share) the tutorial set, and once again, welcome to NVDA 2018!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>




Re: Need urgent help with the FISH memo

Gene
 

I didn't say anything about banning you.  And I favored unmoderating you the last time your antics caused you to be moderated.  If you think I'm an ass then that's what you think.  Your selfabsorption and inability to take any criticism when your antics call for it are unfortunate traits, and your desire to start your own list, thus having the result of possibly discouraging some people from joining the list where the best help is instead of some small offshoot just demonstrates your complete lack of concern for the community and your desire to only satisfy yourself. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need urgent help with the FISH memo

For the record. I got the PDF from a reputivble news source the Washing Times. Not the Post THE TIMES. I’m done. I’m off this forever. I’m starting my own NVDA list without an ass for an owner/mod. Don’t plan on banning me. I’ll see myself out shortly. Goodbye and as always viva la NV Access and NVDA!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 8:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need urgent help with the FISH memo

 

I just did a Google search and you can use whatever search engine you want.  I searched for

full text of Republican FBI memo.  You can search for whatever phrase you want.  This was the first or second result.

You will see a link at the end of the short article to a pdf version and a text version.  You don't just have to limit yourself to whatever you are sent in a newsletter on a topic like this that receives the publicity that this story does.  Search for the item yourself if the link iis unsatisfactory.

 

Gene

 

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 7:38 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Need urgent help with the FISH memo

 

If this is an image, then there may be a sight that can translate it for you.  But it's unnecessary.  Search with whatever search engine you want and see if you find a PDF with text.  It is very unusual for these sorts of documents, released as news items not to be available as PDF documents containing text that you can download and read in Adobe reader or whatever you use that does so. 

 

Also, I am telling you that I don't appreciate your ill temper, rudeness and arrogance.  It is arrogant and condescending to tell someone that has gone through the trouble to provide a link, to try again.  If you don't think the site is credible you can say that and say, I'd appreciate it if you find me another link or say something like, for that reason, would you please find me another link.  And there is no excuse for swearing on the list.  I don't particularly care myself, but the list has all sorts of members and some people may find it offensive.  

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Lino Morales

Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 7:11 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Need urgent help with the FISA memo

 

Um no damn it! I don’t need bloody advice on how to search the Internet! All I want is someone to make this PDF which is an image readable in a format all blind folks can read! How damn hard is that for you to understand sir! I shouldn’t have to search every damn site to just point me to an inaccisible image!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 8:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need urgent help with the FISA memo

 

If it says the full pdf version then it's very likely the full PDF version.  Even so-called liberal hack web sites, as you intolerantly call them, aren't stupid.  they won't damage their credibility by doing something so stupid as to show something that is available all over the net from other sources, claim it is the full version, and then change or omit information.  Unlike many people, I consciously try not to live in an echo chamber.  I listen to some opinions I disagree with and I don't assume dishonesty or bad intent.  At times I find something I agree with and at times, I understand something better. 

 

If you don't want to read the PDF from that liberal hack web site, then do a Google search for what you are looking for.  I realize that there are people who don't know how to do good Internet searches.  I'd be willing to help you learn how if you don't.  But I'm not going to do it for you.  That isn't helping you.  That's doing something for you and not teaching you how to find things the next time.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Lino Morales

Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 6:39 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Need urgent help with the FISA memo

 

That’s a Liberal hack website sir. Try again. I want a *fully *accessible *PDF! No strings attached. I iknow that their some smart people on this list who can make that happen.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Isige
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 7:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need urgent help with the FISA memo

 

Google. It's your buddy. Be prepared to be disappointed though.


https://www.vox.com/2018/2/2/16957588/nunes-memo-released-full-text-read-pdf-declassified


On 2/2/2018 16:37, Lino Morales wrote:
>
> I can’t read the image with Adobe Reader DC. I used NVDA key plus R.
> How can I read the entire doc? I want to read this extremely badly.
> Any help? Thanks.
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>

 

 

 


Re: Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

Rayn Darren
 

All I was able to find was the "character" option, but nothing beyond that for specific characters as Tony said, but then I've had to uninstall it as it played very poorly with my current sound card set up. If this is indeed a viable addon and will do what we've been talking about I'll get the sound card working right with it, but if not, I'm not going to go through the serious hassle of altering it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 6:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

Adriani

How do you do this in AudioThemes addon exactly? I just installed it and
I don't see how you can configure sounds for specific characters.


Tony



On 2/2/2018 5:57 PM, Rayn Darren wrote:
Awesome, thanks so much!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriani Botez
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 5:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

Here is it:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/AudioThemes3D.en.html


Best
Adriani

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Rayn Darren
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. Februar 2018 02:54
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

Never heard of it, but I don't use addons. Where can I get it?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriani Botez
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 5:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

I am prety sure that this can be implemented in the addon Audiotheme 3d.


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Rayn Darren
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. Februar 2018 00:30
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

I totally agree, this is a fantastic idea for an addon! An addition would be a sound when encountering an open bracket, if in fact there is a closing one the sound would be different then a non-paired bracket. I know nothing about python and have worked very little with sound, but would love to both learn and help with this, how do we go about getting it made?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Garwood
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 2:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

Hi,
NVDA itself can't do this.
Having said that, in my opinion, that is a pretty darn cool idea for an addon. Replacing symbols, letters, or even whole words/strings with sound effects.
I know JAWS has, or at least used to have, a feature like that. I had tons of fun with it. Never thought it could come into practical use though. But yeah. Certainly as a developer, trying to find stray or missing braces, brackets, parentheses, quotes, improperly escaped characters etc is very tricky, and either involves arrowing through character by character, or sit there and listen to it read the whole line including punctuation, which gets rather tedious rather quickly.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Malykh
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 10:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

Hello all,

Is there a way to substitute punctuation marks with custom sounds? I am a developer and often times I have to listen to tongue twisters of punctuation marks, like "left bracket right brace left paren ..." I wish to replace all these parens and brackets with sounds. Is there a way to do so in NVDA?

Thanks
Tony






























Re: Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

Tony Malykh
 

Adriani

How do you do this in AudioThemes addon exactly? I just installed it and I don't see how you can configure sounds for specific characters.


Tony

On 2/2/2018 5:57 PM, Rayn Darren wrote:
Awesome, thanks so much!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriani Botez
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 5:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

Here is it:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/AudioThemes3D.en.html


Best
Adriani

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Rayn Darren
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. Februar 2018 02:54
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

Never heard of it, but I don't use addons. Where can I get it?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriani Botez
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 5:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

I am prety sure that this can be implemented in the addon Audiotheme 3d.


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Rayn Darren
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. Februar 2018 00:30
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

I totally agree, this is a fantastic idea for an addon! An addition would be a sound when encountering an open bracket, if in fact there is a closing one the sound would be different then a non-paired bracket. I know nothing about python and have worked very little with sound, but would love to both learn and help with this, how do we go about getting it made?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Garwood
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 2:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

Hi,
NVDA itself can't do this.
Having said that, in my opinion, that is a pretty darn cool idea for an addon. Replacing symbols, letters, or even whole words/strings with sound effects.
I know JAWS has, or at least used to have, a feature like that. I had tons of fun with it. Never thought it could come into practical use though. But yeah. Certainly as a developer, trying to find stray or missing braces, brackets, parentheses, quotes, improperly escaped characters etc is very tricky, and either involves arrowing through character by character, or sit there and listen to it read the whole line including punctuation, which gets rather tedious rather quickly.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Malykh
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 10:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

Hello all,

Is there a way to substitute punctuation marks with custom sounds? I am a developer and often times I have to listen to tongue twisters of punctuation marks, like "left bracket right brace left paren ..." I wish to replace all these parens and brackets with sounds. Is there a way to do so in NVDA?

Thanks
Tony