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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Rosemarie Chavarria
If you have winamp, you can download the file and play it but you can't jump from section to section. You'd have to have something like a victor reader stream or plex-talk.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of inamuddinInam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 6:02 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Is it possible for me to listen this on my windows 10 desktop PC? If so, what can I do? With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1
Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
From: Ron Canazzi
Hi Rose Marie,
If you have an NLS player, you should be able to use it for Daisy books. Of course you won't get a text accompaniment, but it will play them and if properly constructed, you can move by chapters, sections ETC.
On 2/9/2018 5:29 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
inamuddinInam Uddin
Is it possible for me to listen this on my windows 10 desktop PC? If so, what can I do? With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1
Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 6:48 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Hi Rose Marie,
If you have an NLS player, you should be able to use it for Daisy books. Of course you won't get a text accompaniment, but it will play them and if properly constructed, you can move by chapters, sections ETC.
On 2/9/2018 5:29 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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NVDA And Automatic Update
inamuddinInam Uddin
Dear I have been using NVDA as a second option screen reader and wanted to use it as my first screen reader but before that I must learn how to use it just like I can use JAWS. Today I’d like to talk about NVDA and automatic update. Whenever an update of NVDA comes, my system is not telling me that the update is available. I have started using NVDA snapshot which roughly updates every day but My NVDA doesn’t announce that an update is available. Can anybody give me the solution? I sincerely hope that my question will be entertained swiftly! With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1
Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Ron,
I don't have an NLS player. I still have the original tutorial that's not in daisy format.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 5:48 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Hi Rose Marie,
If you have an NLS player, you should be able to use it for Daisy books. Of course you won't get a text accompaniment, but it will play them and if properly constructed, you can move by chapters, sections ETC.
On 2/9/2018 5:29 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: When posts contain email addresses
Gene
Not just Groups.io, any list serve that is remotely
competent doesn't show addressses in the Internet interface. There are
spam bots that look at sites all over the Internet looking for e-mail addresses
to add to spam lists. The addresses are left intact in messages that go
directly to people. They aren't shown on the Internet.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Supanut Leepaisomboon
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] When posts contain email
addresses
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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Ron Canazzi
Hi Rose Marie,
If you have an NLS player, you should be able to use it for Daisy books. Of course you won't get a text accompaniment, but it will play them and if properly constructed, you can move by chapters, sections ETC.
On 2/9/2018 5:29 PM, Rosemarie
Chavarria wrote:
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: When posts contain email addresses
I also noticed that Groups.io cuts out the full email address when viewing on the web. Not sure either why this has happened, probably something to do with antispam protection.
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Re: about taskmanager
Marten Post Uiterweer
Paul,
I don't know how it works with NVDA, but you
can also look at an alternative like Process explorer from Sysinternals and
Sysinternals is from Microsoft.
Process explorer can replace the taskmanager
and is much fastr but as I said: don't know how it works with NVDA.
Something you have to know: In a 64 bit windows it is advised to use the
64bit version of process explorer. In the menu there is an option to replace
taskmanager. When you press ctrl-shift-esc, it will open process explorer.
There is no option to undo this action.
When you start the 32bit version of process
explorer you can uncheck the replace taskmanager option.
Regards, Marten
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 23:59:26 +0100 "P. Otter"
<pam.otter@...> wrote:
thanks man!
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taskmanager
P. Otter
hello all,
thanks for the help. the problem was that win10 essentials was installed wrong. the problem is corrected that was the solution. thanks for the help! cheers paul otter
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Re: about taskmanager
P. Otter
thanks man!
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
i'm happy again! cheers paul otter Op 9-2-2018 om 15:46 schreef Felix G.:
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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Craig
Hi.
I got a data error when unarchiving the file
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2018 9:02 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Unless I have a corrupted download there is a problem with the Daisy file in this download. I have tried it in a couple of applications and it is being reported as unreadable in both. This is possibly why people are not managing to read it as a Daisy Book.
For example when I tried to open the daisy package.odf in FS Reader it reported that the file was unreadable . When I try to open it from the context menu in Explorer and point to FS Reader it caused it to crash. As an experiment I tried to also open it in calibre to see the actual file contexnts and calibre also reported it as unreadable. However I did manage to open it in Notepad. However no daisy reader I have can interpret it as a book. David Griffith
My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
From: Gene
You need an mp3 player unless you can look and play the files separately. I haven't looked at the layout of Daisy books enough to know. the whole point of the daisy format is to be able to see material as you listen. JAWS has training material in the daisy format. You can listen to the text, listen to the audio, or skim or search the text to find something and then, listen to the audio. The two are synchronized. There is no additional benefit in listening to the mp3 files in the Daisy book as stand alone files in an mp3 player. You already can get the tutorial in that form..
I should also say that I have hardly used Daisy material. Perhaps there is just Daisy material that is almost all just recorded audio. If so, I would think there would be some sort of text you can look at that indicates the beginning of sections and perhaps gives names of the different sections so you can search for the section you want, then start listening to the audio at that point.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Lee Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Hi, The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isnt working. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Joseph,
I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Hi everyone,
Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from: http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip
The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.
Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.
Enjoy. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Gerardo Corripio
It's an audio file; not a text-based. And yes you need a special
player to play these. El 09/02/2018 a las 03:15 p.m.,
Rosemarie Chavarria escribió:
-- Gera Enviado desde Thunderbird
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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Clive Pallett
Hello Gene,
You can copy it to HumanWare's victor Reader
players and depending on the structure you can navigate by different levels,
e.g. headings, chapter, page, etc. I have just downloaded the zipped
archive and copied it to my victor Reader Stream 2. There are three levels
of navigation, chapter, heading and phrase, and whatever time jump you have
selected. . There is only audio playback, there isn't associated
text. Before each chapter, there is the NVDA installation
music.
Many thanks to Joseph for all his hard work
recording the tutorial.
Best wishes,
Clive Pallett
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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Rosemarie Chavarria
They're mp3 files.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 2:32 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Unless I have a corrupted download there is a problem with the Daisy file in this download. I have tried it in a couple of applications and it is being reported as unreadable in both. This is possibly why people are not managing to read it as a Daisy Book.
For example when I tried to open the daisy package.odf in FS Reader it reported that the file was unreadable . When I try to open it from the context menu in Explorer and point to FS Reader it caused it to crash. As an experiment I tried to also open it in calibre to see the actual file contexnts and calibre also reported it as unreadable. However I did manage to open it in Notepad. However no daisy reader I have can interpret it as a book. David Griffith
My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
From: Gene
You need an mp3 player unless you can look and play the files separately. I haven't looked at the layout of Daisy books enough to know. the whole point of the daisy format is to be able to see material as you listen. JAWS has training material in the daisy format. You can listen to the text, listen to the audio, or skim or search the text to find something and then, listen to the audio. The two are synchronized. There is no additional benefit in listening to the mp3 files in the Daisy book as stand alone files in an mp3 player. You already can get the tutorial in that form..
I should also say that I have hardly used Daisy material. Perhaps there is just Daisy material that is almost all just recorded audio. If so, I would think there would be some sort of text you can look at that indicates the beginning of sections and perhaps gives names of the different sections so you can search for the section you want, then start listening to the audio at that point.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Lee Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Hi, The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isnt working. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Joseph,
I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Hi everyone,
Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from: http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip
The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.
Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.
Enjoy. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi,
I did find them as mp3 files. I don't have a device like the victor stream or plex-talk to be able to jump from section to section.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:23 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Hi, The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isn’t working. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Joseph,
I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Hi everyone,
Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from: http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip
The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.
Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.
Enjoy. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
David Griffith
Unless I have a corrupted download there is a problem with the Daisy file in this download. I have tried it in a couple of applications and it is being reported as unreadable in both. This is possibly why people are not managing to read it as a Daisy Book.
For example when I tried to open the daisy package.odf in FS Reader it reported that the file was unreadable . When I try to open it from the context menu in Explorer and point to FS Reader it caused it to crash. As an experiment I tried to also open it in calibre to see the actual file contexnts and calibre also reported it as unreadable. However I did manage to open it in Notepad. However no daisy reader I have can interpret it as a book. David Griffith
My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
From: Gene
Sent: 09 February 2018 21:38 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
You need an mp3 player unless you can look and play the files separately. I haven't looked at the layout of Daisy books enough to know. the whole point of the daisy format is to be able to see material as you listen. JAWS has training material in the daisy format. You can listen to the text, listen to the audio, or skim or search the text to find something and then, listen to the audio. The two are synchronized. There is no additional benefit in listening to the mp3 files in the Daisy book as stand alone files in an mp3 player. You already can get the tutorial in that form..
I should also say that I have hardly used Daisy material. Perhaps there is just Daisy material that is almost all just recorded audio. If so, I would think there would be some sort of text you can look at that indicates the beginning of sections and perhaps gives names of the different sections so you can search for the section you want, then start listening to the audio at that point.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Lee Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Hi, The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isnt working. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Joseph,
I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Hi everyone,
Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from: http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip
The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.
Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.
Enjoy. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Rosemarie Chavarria
Thank you. I do have the original tutorial that Joseph did on my external music drive. I don't have plex-talk or a victor stream reader but the original tutorial will be just fine for me.
Thanks again.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Bartholomew
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:54 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Pure audio DAISY allows you, provided it’s been properly structured, to jump to the start of chapters, sections, paragraphs etc; however, you do need a DAISY-compatible player such as the Victor Reader Stream or Plextalk or DAISY software to take advantage of this.
Richard Bartholomew
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
You need an mp3 player unless you can look and play the files separately. I haven't looked at the layout of Daisy books enough to know. the whole point of the daisy format is to be able to see material as you listen. JAWS has training material in the daisy format. You can listen to the text, listen to the audio, or skim or search the text to find something and then, listen to the audio. The two are synchronized. There is no additional benefit in listening to the mp3 files in the Daisy book as stand alone files in an mp3 player. You already can get the tutorial in that form..
I should also say that I have hardly used Daisy material. Perhaps there is just Daisy material that is almost all just recorded audio. If so, I would think there would be some sort of text you can look at that indicates the beginning of sections and perhaps gives names of the different sections so you can search for the section you want, then start listening to the audio at that point.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Lee Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Hi, The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isn’t working. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Joseph,
I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Hi everyone,
Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from: http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip
The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.
Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.
Enjoy. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Richard Bartholomew
Pure audio DAISY allows you, provided it’s been properly structured, to jump to the start of chapters, sections, paragraphs etc; however, you do need a DAISY-compatible player such as the Victor Reader Stream or Plextalk or DAISY software to take advantage of this.
Richard Bartholomew
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 09 February 2018 21:38 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
You need an mp3 player unless you can look and play the files separately. I haven't looked at the layout of Daisy books enough to know. the whole point of the daisy format is to be able to see material as you listen. JAWS has training material in the daisy format. You can listen to the text, listen to the audio, or skim or search the text to find something and then, listen to the audio. The two are synchronized. There is no additional benefit in listening to the mp3 files in the Daisy book as stand alone files in an mp3 player. You already can get the tutorial in that form..
I should also say that I have hardly used Daisy material. Perhaps there is just Daisy material that is almost all just recorded audio. If so, I would think there would be some sort of text you can look at that indicates the beginning of sections and perhaps gives names of the different sections so you can search for the section you want, then start listening to the audio at that point.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Lee Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Hi, The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isn’t working. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Joseph,
I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Hi everyone,
Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from: http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip
The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.
Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.
Enjoy. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018
Gene
You need an mp3 player unless you can look and play
the files separately. I haven't looked at the layout of Daisy books enough
to know. the whole point of the daisy format is to be able to see
material as you listen. JAWS has training material in the daisy
format. You can listen to the text, listen to the audio, or skim or search
the text to find something and then, listen to the audio. The two are
synchronized. There is no additional benefit in listening to the mp3 files
in the Daisy book as stand alone files in an mp3 player. You already can
get the tutorial in that form..
I should also say that I have hardly used Daisy
material. Perhaps there is just Daisy material that is almost all just
recorded audio. If so, I would think there would be some sort of text you
can look at that indicates the beginning of sections and perhaps gives names of
the different sections so you can search for the section you want, then start
listening to the audio at that point.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA
2018 Hi, The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isn’t working. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Hi, Joseph,
I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Joseph Lee
Hi everyone,
Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from: http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip
The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.
Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.
Enjoy. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Unable to start Outlook 2016 While NVDA Is Running
Gene
This answer provides information that is useful far
beyond Outlook.
I'm not sure what's causing the problem
but you can do a lot of things without speech if you know what you do with
speech. You won't hear what you are doing but you can follow a routine you
know works. You can use the Outlook Start
menu search, of which, more later. You can also pin Outlook to the task
bar and then start it with a Windows key plus number command. You can
create a desktop shortcut and assign a shortcut command to it such as control
alt l to make it easy to remember.
I won't go into more explanations of how to do
these things here. If you want to know, ask and I or others will tell
you.
Gene
----- Original message -----
From: Ralph Boersema
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 2:52 PM
Subject: [nvda] Unable to start Outlook 2016 While NVDA Is
Running I guess I am dealing with two distinct problems. With regard to switching folders, Ctrl-Shift + Tab does the job. Thanks for this! The other problem is that if I turn off Outlook I cannot start it so long as NVDA is running. I exit NVDA and ask a sighted person to start Outlook for me. This problem arose only two days ago. Any suggestions? I am running Windows 10. Warmly, Ralph
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