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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

If you have winamp, you can download the file and play it but you can't jump from section to section. You'd have to have something like a victor reader stream or plex-talk.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of inamuddinInam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 6:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Is it possible for me to listen this on my windows 10 desktop PC?

If so, what can I do?

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

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From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 6:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi Rose Marie,

 

If you have an NLS player, you should be able to use it for Daisy books.  Of course you won't get a text accompaniment, but it will play them and if properly constructed, you can move by chapters, sections ETC.

 

 

On 2/9/2018 5:29 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Thank you. I do have the original tutorial that Joseph did on my external music drive. I don't have plex-talk or a victor stream reader but the original tutorial will be just fine for me.

 

Thanks again.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Bartholomew
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Pure audio DAISY allows you, provided it’s been properly structured, to jump to the start of chapters, sections, paragraphs etc; however, you do need a DAISY-compatible player such as the Victor Reader Stream or Plextalk or DAISY software to take advantage of this.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 09 February 2018 21:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

You need an mp3 player unless you can look and play the files separately.  I haven't looked at the layout of Daisy books enough to know.  the whole point of the daisy format is to be able to see material as you listen.  JAWS has training material in the daisy format.  You can listen to the text, listen to the audio, or skim or search the text to find something and then, listen to the audio.  The two are synchronized.  There is no additional benefit in listening to the mp3 files in the Daisy book as stand alone files in an mp3 player.  You already can get the tutorial in that form.. 

 

I should also say that I have hardly used Daisy material.  Perhaps there is just Daisy material that is almost all just recorded audio.  If so, I would think there would be some sort of text you can look at that indicates the beginning of sections and perhaps gives names of the different sections so you can search for the section you want, then start listening to the audio at that point.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi,

The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isn’t working.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip

 

The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.

 

Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 


Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

inamuddinInam Uddin
 

Is it possible for me to listen this on my windows 10 desktop PC?

If so, what can I do?

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...
Inamuddin.ronaque@...
outlook:
inam092@...
yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...
Add my Skype ID:
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From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 6:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi Rose Marie,

 

If you have an NLS player, you should be able to use it for Daisy books.  Of course you won't get a text accompaniment, but it will play them and if properly constructed, you can move by chapters, sections ETC.

 

 

On 2/9/2018 5:29 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Thank you. I do have the original tutorial that Joseph did on my external music drive. I don't have plex-talk or a victor stream reader but the original tutorial will be just fine for me.

 

Thanks again.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Bartholomew
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Pure audio DAISY allows you, provided it’s been properly structured, to jump to the start of chapters, sections, paragraphs etc; however, you do need a DAISY-compatible player such as the Victor Reader Stream or Plextalk or DAISY software to take advantage of this.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 09 February 2018 21:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

You need an mp3 player unless you can look and play the files separately.  I haven't looked at the layout of Daisy books enough to know.  the whole point of the daisy format is to be able to see material as you listen.  JAWS has training material in the daisy format.  You can listen to the text, listen to the audio, or skim or search the text to find something and then, listen to the audio.  The two are synchronized.  There is no additional benefit in listening to the mp3 files in the Daisy book as stand alone files in an mp3 player.  You already can get the tutorial in that form.. 

 

I should also say that I have hardly used Daisy material.  Perhaps there is just Daisy material that is almost all just recorded audio.  If so, I would think there would be some sort of text you can look at that indicates the beginning of sections and perhaps gives names of the different sections so you can search for the section you want, then start listening to the audio at that point.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi,

The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isn’t working.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip

 

The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.

 

Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph



-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 


NVDA And Automatic Update

inamuddinInam Uddin
 

Dear I have been using NVDA as a second option screen reader and wanted to use it as my first screen reader but before that I must learn how to use it just like I can use JAWS.

Today I’d like to talk about NVDA and automatic update.

Whenever an update of NVDA comes, my system is not telling me that the update is available.

I have started using NVDA snapshot which roughly updates every day but My NVDA doesn’t announce that an update is available.

Can anybody give me the solution?

I sincerely hope that my question will be entertained swiftly!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

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At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Ron,

 

I don't have an NLS player. I still have the original tutorial that's not in daisy format.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 5:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi Rose Marie,

 

If you have an NLS player, you should be able to use it for Daisy books.  Of course you won't get a text accompaniment, but it will play them and if properly constructed, you can move by chapters, sections ETC.

 

 

On 2/9/2018 5:29 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Thank you. I do have the original tutorial that Joseph did on my external music drive. I don't have plex-talk or a victor stream reader but the original tutorial will be just fine for me.

 

Thanks again.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Bartholomew
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Pure audio DAISY allows you, provided it’s been properly structured, to jump to the start of chapters, sections, paragraphs etc; however, you do need a DAISY-compatible player such as the Victor Reader Stream or Plextalk or DAISY software to take advantage of this.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 09 February 2018 21:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

You need an mp3 player unless you can look and play the files separately.  I haven't looked at the layout of Daisy books enough to know.  the whole point of the daisy format is to be able to see material as you listen.  JAWS has training material in the daisy format.  You can listen to the text, listen to the audio, or skim or search the text to find something and then, listen to the audio.  The two are synchronized.  There is no additional benefit in listening to the mp3 files in the Daisy book as stand alone files in an mp3 player.  You already can get the tutorial in that form.. 

 

I should also say that I have hardly used Daisy material.  Perhaps there is just Daisy material that is almost all just recorded audio.  If so, I would think there would be some sort of text you can look at that indicates the beginning of sections and perhaps gives names of the different sections so you can search for the section you want, then start listening to the audio at that point.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi,

The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isn’t working.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip

 

The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.

 

Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph



-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: When posts contain email addresses

Gene
 

Not just Groups.io, any list serve that is remotely competent doesn't show addressses in the Internet interface.  There are spam bots that look at sites all over the Internet looking for e-mail addresses to add to spam lists.  The addresses are left intact in messages that go directly to people.  They aren't shown on the Internet.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] When posts contain email addresses

I also noticed that Groups.io cuts out the full email address when viewing on the web. Not sure either why this has happened, probably something to do with antispam protection.


Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Rose Marie,


If you have an NLS player, you should be able to use it for Daisy books.  Of course you won't get a text accompaniment, but it will play them and if properly constructed, you can move by chapters, sections ETC.



On 2/9/2018 5:29 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Thank you. I do have the original tutorial that Joseph did on my external music drive. I don't have plex-talk or a victor stream reader but the original tutorial will be just fine for me.

 

Thanks again.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Bartholomew
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Pure audio DAISY allows you, provided it’s been properly structured, to jump to the start of chapters, sections, paragraphs etc; however, you do need a DAISY-compatible player such as the Victor Reader Stream or Plextalk or DAISY software to take advantage of this.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 09 February 2018 21:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

You need an mp3 player unless you can look and play the files separately.  I haven't looked at the layout of Daisy books enough to know.  the whole point of the daisy format is to be able to see material as you listen.  JAWS has training material in the daisy format.  You can listen to the text, listen to the audio, or skim or search the text to find something and then, listen to the audio.  The two are synchronized.  There is no additional benefit in listening to the mp3 files in the Daisy book as stand alone files in an mp3 player.  You already can get the tutorial in that form.. 

 

I should also say that I have hardly used Daisy material.  Perhaps there is just Daisy material that is almost all just recorded audio.  If so, I would think there would be some sort of text you can look at that indicates the beginning of sections and perhaps gives names of the different sections so you can search for the section you want, then start listening to the audio at that point.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi,

The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isn’t working.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip

 

The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.

 

Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: When posts contain email addresses

 

I also noticed that Groups.io cuts out the full email address when viewing on the web. Not sure either why this has happened, probably something to do with antispam protection.


Re: about taskmanager

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Paul,
 
I don't know how it works with NVDA, but you can also look at an alternative like Process explorer from Sysinternals and Sysinternals is from Microsoft.
Process explorer can replace the taskmanager and is much fastr but as I said: don't know how it works with NVDA.

Something you have to know:
In a 64 bit windows it is advised to use the 64bit version of process explorer. In the menu there is an option to replace taskmanager. When you press ctrl-shift-esc, it will open process explorer.
There is no option to undo this action.
 
When you start the 32bit version of process explorer you can uncheck the replace taskmanager option.
 
Regards, Marten
 

On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 23:59:26 +0100 "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...> wrote:
 
thanks man!
i'm happy again!
cheers
paul otter



Op 9-2-2018 om 15:46 schreef Felix G.:
Hi Paul,
Task Manager is a bit slow on Windows 10 due to the way it implements UIA. Make sure you got the Windows 10 Essentials add-on installed, and after opening Task Manager, give it some time to fully establish communication with NVDA. For me, anything up to a minute or even slightly more is unfortunately normal.
Greetings,
Felix

P. Otter <pam.otter@...> schrieb am Fr., 9. Feb. 2018 um 13:13 Uhr:
hello, a long, long time ago, it was possible for me to use the taskmanager.
so it was possible to stop a programm to run.
now, i've problems with my skype, i've updated it to 7.40 but there is
something wrong in this version.
i'm using windows 10 (newest version) and nvda2017.4
from the moment i'm running 7.40 of skype, and someone is calling me, i
hear skype ringing, that is as usual.
but when i accepted the call, skype keeps ringing, also when i've ended
the call, skype keeps ringing until i've stoped skype in the taskmanager
or i've reboot my computer.
what i wrote before, it was a long time ago possible to use the
taskmager but now i only hear list, list, list.
there is nothing i can do else than reboot my computer.
that is very annoing
is there a possibillity to use the taskmanager again or ofcaurse a
solution to use skype without false ringing problems?
i have 64 bit windows 10 running.
thank you in advance for your answer
regards
paul otter






taskmanager

P. Otter
 

hello all,
thanks for the help.
the problem was that win10 essentials was installed wrong.
the problem is corrected that was the solution.
thanks for the help!
cheers
paul otter


Re: about taskmanager

P. Otter
 

thanks man!
i'm happy again!
cheers
paul otter



Op 9-2-2018 om 15:46 schreef Felix G.:

Hi Paul,
Task Manager is a bit slow on Windows 10 due to the way it implements UIA. Make sure you got the Windows 10 Essentials add-on installed, and after opening Task Manager, give it some time to fully establish communication with NVDA. For me, anything up to a minute or even slightly more is unfortunately normal.
Greetings,
Felix

P. Otter <pam.otter@...> schrieb am Fr., 9. Feb. 2018 um 13:13 Uhr:
hello, a long, long time ago, it was possible for me to use the taskmanager.
so it was possible to stop a programm to run.
now, i've problems with my skype, i've updated it to 7.40 but there is
something wrong in this version.
i'm using windows 10 (newest version) and nvda2017.4
from the moment i'm running 7.40 of skype, and someone is calling me, i
hear skype ringing, that is as usual.
but when i accepted the call, skype keeps ringing, also when i've ended
the call, skype keeps ringing until i've stoped skype in the taskmanager
or i've reboot my computer.
what i wrote before, it was a long time ago possible to use the
taskmager but now i only hear list, list, list.
there is nothing i can do else than reboot my computer.
that is very annoing
is there a possibillity to use the taskmanager again or ofcaurse a
solution to use skype without false ringing problems?
i have 64 bit windows 10 running.
thank you in advance for your answer
regards
paul otter






Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

Craig
 

Hi.

 

I got a data error when unarchiving the file

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2018 9:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Unless I have a corrupted download there is a problem with the Daisy file in this download.

I have tried it in a couple of applications and it is being reported as unreadable in both. This is possibly why people are not managing to read it as a Daisy Book.

 

For example when I tried to open the daisy package.odf in FS  Reader it reported that the file was unreadable . When I try to open it from the context menu in Explorer and  point to FS Reader it caused it to crash. As an experiment I tried to also open it in calibre to see the actual file contexnts and calibre also reported it as unreadable.

However I did manage to open it in Notepad.

However  no daisy reader I have   can interpret it as a book.

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 09 February 2018 21:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

You need an mp3 player unless you can look and play the files separately.  I haven't looked at the layout of Daisy books enough to know.  the whole point of the daisy format is to be able to see material as you listen.  JAWS has training material in the daisy format.  You can listen to the text, listen to the audio, or skim or search the text to find something and then, listen to the audio.  The two are synchronized.  There is no additional benefit in listening to the mp3 files in the Daisy book as stand alone files in an mp3 player.  You already can get the tutorial in that form.. 

 

I should also say that I have hardly used Daisy material.  Perhaps there is just Daisy material that is almost all just recorded audio.  If so, I would think there would be some sort of text you can look at that indicates the beginning of sections and perhaps gives names of the different sections so you can search for the section you want, then start listening to the audio at that point.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi,

The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isn’t working.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip

 

The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.

 

Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

Gerardo Corripio
 

It's an audio file; not a text-based. And yes you need a special player to play these.


El 09/02/2018 a las 03:15 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria escribió:

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip

 

The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.

 

Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

Clive Pallett
 

Hello Gene,
 
You can copy it to HumanWare's victor Reader players and depending on the structure you can navigate by different levels, e.g. headings, chapter, page, etc.  I have just downloaded the zipped archive and copied it to my victor Reader Stream 2.  There are three levels of navigation, chapter, heading and phrase, and whatever time jump you have selected.  .  There is only audio playback, there isn't associated text.  Before each chapter, there is the NVDA installation music.
 
Many thanks to Joseph for all his hard work recording the tutorial.
 
Best wishes,
 
Clive Pallett
 
 


Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

They're mp3 files.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Unless I have a corrupted download there is a problem with the Daisy file in this download.

I have tried it in a couple of applications and it is being reported as unreadable in both. This is possibly why people are not managing to read it as a Daisy Book.

 

For example when I tried to open the daisy package.odf in FS  Reader it reported that the file was unreadable . When I try to open it from the context menu in Explorer and  point to FS Reader it caused it to crash. As an experiment I tried to also open it in calibre to see the actual file contexnts and calibre also reported it as unreadable.

However I did manage to open it in Notepad.

However  no daisy reader I have   can interpret it as a book.

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 09 February 2018 21:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

You need an mp3 player unless you can look and play the files separately.  I haven't looked at the layout of Daisy books enough to know.  the whole point of the daisy format is to be able to see material as you listen.  JAWS has training material in the daisy format.  You can listen to the text, listen to the audio, or skim or search the text to find something and then, listen to the audio.  The two are synchronized.  There is no additional benefit in listening to the mp3 files in the Daisy book as stand alone files in an mp3 player.  You already can get the tutorial in that form.. 

 

I should also say that I have hardly used Daisy material.  Perhaps there is just Daisy material that is almost all just recorded audio.  If so, I would think there would be some sort of text you can look at that indicates the beginning of sections and perhaps gives names of the different sections so you can search for the section you want, then start listening to the audio at that point.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi,

The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isn’t working.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip

 

The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.

 

Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi,

 

I did find them as mp3 files. I don't have a device like the victor stream or plex-talk to be able to jump from section to section.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi,

The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isn’t working.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip

 

The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.

 

Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

David Griffith
 

Unless I have a corrupted download there is a problem with the Daisy file in this download.

I have tried it in a couple of applications and it is being reported as unreadable in both. This is possibly why people are not managing to read it as a Daisy Book.

 

For example when I tried to open the daisy package.odf in FS  Reader it reported that the file was unreadable . When I try to open it from the context menu in Explorer and  point to FS Reader it caused it to crash. As an experiment I tried to also open it in calibre to see the actual file contexnts and calibre also reported it as unreadable.

However I did manage to open it in Notepad.

However  no daisy reader I have   can interpret it as a book.

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 09 February 2018 21:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

You need an mp3 player unless you can look and play the files separately.  I haven't looked at the layout of Daisy books enough to know.  the whole point of the daisy format is to be able to see material as you listen.  JAWS has training material in the daisy format.  You can listen to the text, listen to the audio, or skim or search the text to find something and then, listen to the audio.  The two are synchronized.  There is no additional benefit in listening to the mp3 files in the Daisy book as stand alone files in an mp3 player.  You already can get the tutorial in that form.. 

 

I should also say that I have hardly used Daisy material.  Perhaps there is just Daisy material that is almost all just recorded audio.  If so, I would think there would be some sort of text you can look at that indicates the beginning of sections and perhaps gives names of the different sections so you can search for the section you want, then start listening to the audio at that point.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi,

The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isn’t working.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip

 

The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.

 

Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Thank you. I do have the original tutorial that Joseph did on my external music drive. I don't have plex-talk or a victor stream reader but the original tutorial will be just fine for me.

 

Thanks again.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Bartholomew
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Pure audio DAISY allows you, provided it’s been properly structured, to jump to the start of chapters, sections, paragraphs etc; however, you do need a DAISY-compatible player such as the Victor Reader Stream or Plextalk or DAISY software to take advantage of this.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 09 February 2018 21:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

You need an mp3 player unless you can look and play the files separately.  I haven't looked at the layout of Daisy books enough to know.  the whole point of the daisy format is to be able to see material as you listen.  JAWS has training material in the daisy format.  You can listen to the text, listen to the audio, or skim or search the text to find something and then, listen to the audio.  The two are synchronized.  There is no additional benefit in listening to the mp3 files in the Daisy book as stand alone files in an mp3 player.  You already can get the tutorial in that form.. 

 

I should also say that I have hardly used Daisy material.  Perhaps there is just Daisy material that is almost all just recorded audio.  If so, I would think there would be some sort of text you can look at that indicates the beginning of sections and perhaps gives names of the different sections so you can search for the section you want, then start listening to the audio at that point.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi,

The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isn’t working.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip

 

The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.

 

Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

Richard Bartholomew
 

Pure audio DAISY allows you, provided it’s been properly structured, to jump to the start of chapters, sections, paragraphs etc; however, you do need a DAISY-compatible player such as the Victor Reader Stream or Plextalk or DAISY software to take advantage of this.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 09 February 2018 21:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

You need an mp3 player unless you can look and play the files separately.  I haven't looked at the layout of Daisy books enough to know.  the whole point of the daisy format is to be able to see material as you listen.  JAWS has training material in the daisy format.  You can listen to the text, listen to the audio, or skim or search the text to find something and then, listen to the audio.  The two are synchronized.  There is no additional benefit in listening to the mp3 files in the Daisy book as stand alone files in an mp3 player.  You already can get the tutorial in that form.. 

 

I should also say that I have hardly used Daisy material.  Perhaps there is just Daisy material that is almost all just recorded audio.  If so, I would think there would be some sort of text you can look at that indicates the beginning of sections and perhaps gives names of the different sections so you can search for the section you want, then start listening to the audio at that point.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi,

The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isn’t working.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip

 

The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.

 

Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

Gene
 

You need an mp3 player unless you can look and play the files separately.  I haven't looked at the layout of Daisy books enough to know.  the whole point of the daisy format is to be able to see material as you listen.  JAWS has training material in the daisy format.  You can listen to the text, listen to the audio, or skim or search the text to find something and then, listen to the audio.  The two are synchronized.  There is no additional benefit in listening to the mp3 files in the Daisy book as stand alone files in an mp3 player.  You already can get the tutorial in that form.. 
 
I should also say that I have hardly used Daisy material.  Perhaps there is just Daisy material that is almost all just recorded audio.  If so, I would think there would be some sort of text you can look at that indicates the beginning of sections and perhaps gives names of the different sections so you can search for the section you want, then start listening to the audio at that point.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

Hi,

The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isn’t working.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi, Joseph,

 

I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a special player or is this a word document?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip

 

The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.

 

Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Unable to start Outlook 2016 While NVDA Is Running

Gene
 

This answer provides information that is useful far beyond Outlook.
 
I'm not sure what's causing the problem but you can do a lot of things without speech if you know what you do with speech.  You won't hear what you are doing but you can follow a routine you know works.  You can use the Outlook Start menu search, of which, more later.  You can also pin Outlook to the task bar and then start it with a Windows key plus number command.  You can create a desktop shortcut and assign a shortcut command to it such as control alt l to make it easy to remember.
 
I won't go into more explanations of how to do these things here.  If you want to know, ask and I or others will tell you.
Gene

----- Original message -----
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 2:52 PM
Subject: [nvda] Unable to start Outlook 2016 While NVDA Is Running

Friends,

I guess I am dealing with two distinct problems. With regard to switching folders, Ctrl-Shift + Tab does the job. Thanks for this!

The other problem is that if I turn off Outlook I cannot start it so long as NVDA is running. I exit NVDA and ask a sighted person to start Outlook for me. This problem arose only two days ago.

Any suggestions? I am running Windows 10.

Warmly,
Ralph