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Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Well if they are numbered fine I have actually resorted to my media player to do the reading.

Ofcause due to structure daisy book files can be in little bits to.

On 10/02/2018 11:33 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi,


I did find them as mp3 files. I don't have a device like the victor stream
or plex-talk to be able to jump from section to section.




From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018


Hi,

The audio recordings are in mp3 format, which may explain why this isn't
working.

Cheers,

Joseph


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 1:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018


Hi, Joseph,


I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a
special player or is this a word document?


Rosemarie




From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018


Hi everyone,


Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an
audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available
from:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.z
ip


The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to
date.


Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial
set on physical media for a fee.


Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph




Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

You can use a daisy player like amis to read this.

You can use your talking book machine to read this, all library machines are daisy complient.

You can use it on your smart phone.

Amis is one such player.

I am unsure about others as such, but dolphin easy reader full is only 85 bucks us for what it is and will work with nvda.

On 10/02/2018 10:15 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Joseph,


I'm not able to read the daisy format of the tutorial. Do you have to have a
special player or is this a word document?


Rosemarie




From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018


Hi everyone,


Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an
audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available
from:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.z
ip


The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to
date.


Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial
set on physical media for a fee.


Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph




Re: about taskmanager

 

Hmmm I don't know why ms don't include all the sysinternals in a feature set download, but I am going to get into that I think.

Maybe even take sys internals as a portable app.

I havn't really looked at that suite with 7 but maybe I will.

On 10/02/2018 9:47 a.m., JM Casey wrote:
Hi everyone.


I replaced Windows 10 Task Manager with Process Explorer from Sysinternals, because of the speed problem. The “fewer details” view in task manager isn’t that useful, and I found both NVDA and jAWS to be so sluggish in the detailed view that Task Manager was basically intolerable to use. Process Explorer has more capability, but also responds very quickly and works just as well with a screen-reader as Task manager really should. The program and all the others in the suite are owned by Microsoft now and there is an option within Process Explorer that enables you to replace the OS task manager. This means your ctrl-shift-esc keyboard command will activate it. Pretty neat.




From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: February 9, 2018 10:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] about taskmanager


Hi,

It also depends on which view Task Manager is in, as it defaults to showing you fewer details.

Cheers,

Joseph


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 7:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] about taskmanager


I mormally find with Narrator Task Manager responds pretty much instantly.

Narrator does not interact with Task Manager in the same way as NVDA as you need to travel across all the eleements headings for each process rather than simply cursorring down the list of processes as you might expect with NVDA but as I say it is pretty instantaneous and you can get to where you want pretty easily. Just turn on scan mode with caps lock space bar and simply cursor down through the window. You will hear each process followed by the reading for each process like CPU etc but eventually you will reach the next process down. Continue down through the list to get to where you want to go.


David Griffith




My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts


From: Felix G. <mailto:constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
Sent: 09 February 2018 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] about taskmanager


Hi Paul,

Task Manager is a bit slow on Windows 10 due to the way it implements UIA. Make sure you got the Windows 10 Essentials add-on installed, and after opening Task Manager, give it some time to fully establish communication with NVDA. For me, anything up to a minute or even slightly more is unfortunately normal.

Greetings,

Felix


P. Otter <pam.otter@gmail.com> schrieb am Fr., 9. Feb. 2018 um 13:13 Uhr:

hello, a long, long time ago, it was possible for me to use the taskmanager.
so it was possible to stop a programm to run.
now, i've problems with my skype, i've updated it to 7.40 but there is
something wrong in this version.
i'm using windows 10 (newest version) and nvda2017.4
from the moment i'm running 7.40 of skype, and someone is calling me, i
hear skype ringing, that is as usual.
but when i accepted the call, skype keeps ringing, also when i've ended
the call, skype keeps ringing until i've stoped skype in the taskmanager
or i've reboot my computer.
what i wrote before, it was a long time ago possible to use the
taskmager but now i only hear list, list, list.
there is nothing i can do else than reboot my computer.
that is very annoing
is there a possibillity to use the taskmanager again or ofcaurse a
solution to use skype without false ringing problems?
i have 64 bit windows 10 running.
thank you in advance for your answer
regards
paul otter







Re: code factory voices

John Isige
 

The SAPI version responds just fine for me, Win 10 64-bit, latest build,
Microsoft WindowsVersion 1709 (OS Build 16299.194 to be exact, NVDA
2017.4. I can also confirm, no artifacts. The addon version had
artifacts for me when I tried it, the Eloquence part, I didn't try
Vocalizer. I'm pretty sure both the SAPI version and addon have seven
day demos, so anybody can try them for a bit and see if they have any
issues before they decide whether to buy them or not.


I will say the one issue with responsiveness is that it can be slow to
load for the first time, e.g. if you use it as a SAPI synthesizer in a
game or such, it can take a bit to start up. But once it's started it's
fine, and if you run that game again later, it will start faster. I
don't know why that is and I wish they'd solve it, but it hasn't really
bothered me all that much, I guess I've just gotten used to it.

On 2/10/2018 15:59, Gene wrote:
There is a SAPI 5 version of Eloquence you can try.  I haven't used it
in Windows 10.  I've heard contradictory things about whether it is
responsive in Windows 10.  It works properly aside from the
contradictory things I've heard about responsiveness.  I tried it in
XP and it doesn't have any of the artifacts the add on has with
Eloquence.
You aren't limited to the two choices you are describing.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

*From:* Shaun Everiss <mailto:sm.everiss@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 10, 2018 3:49 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] code factory voices

You know what really gets my goat though.

We have a perfectly decently cracked version which is good.

Maybe to combat this they decide to well put out a payed version.

But when your legal version is not as good you have an issue, but
obviously they don't, good luck to me buying their stuff though.

Maybe I will get vocaliser and their packages via atguys thats only
because inoetics are no more with their stuff, and well there is
acapella, it costs a bit more.

Tempted to get infovox but then I  am uncertain.

Vocaliser which I do use from time to time in old realspeak form has
served me well.




On 9/02/2018 7:20 p.m., Vlad Dragomir wrote:
Hi all,

I'd like to join you all in being disappointed. I bought this addon
exactly because it offered Eloquence, and I ended up using Vocalizer
all the time because of this. Moreover, no updates, no improvements
whatsoever for three years, they seem to be no different from
Tiflotecnia. It seems to be so tempting to put a half-baked product
online and than sit down and see money poor in.

I know it's useless to complain like this, so let's cheer up and hope
for a change, miracles happen sometimes!

Best regards,

Vlad.






Re: about taskmanager

 

Still a bit round about, for me I have it where the system semi crashes and freezes till task manager opens fully.

Thats not good enough, if we need it well then what.

Narator, and navigating round like that just sucks badly.

Sorry but what I like is the first letter nav for a process you can't get this, seriously, this is really putting me off upgrading.

Task manager on 2 systems shows this slowness and on a really new 7th gen i5 its the only program that makes the system unstable.

On 10/02/2018 4:25 a.m., David Griffith wrote:
I mormally find with Narrator Task Manager responds pretty much instantly.
Narrator does not interact with Task Manager in the same way as NVDA as you need to travel across all the eleements headings for each process rather than simply cursorring down the list of processes as you might expect with NVDA but as I say it is pretty instantaneous and you can get to where you want pretty easily. Just turn on scan mode with caps lock space bar and simply cursor down through the window. You will hear each process followed by the reading for each process like CPU etc but eventually you will reach the next process down. Continue down through the list to get to where you want to go.

David Griffith



My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

From: Felix G.
Sent: 09 February 2018 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] about taskmanager

Hi Paul,
Task Manager is a bit slow on Windows 10 due to the way it implements UIA. Make sure you got the Windows 10 Essentials add-on installed, and after opening Task Manager, give it some time to fully establish communication with NVDA. For me, anything up to a minute or even slightly more is unfortunately normal.
Greetings,
Felix

P. Otter <pam.otter@gmail.com> schrieb am Fr., 9. Feb. 2018 um 13:13 Uhr:
hello, a long, long time ago, it was possible for me to use the taskmanager.
so it was possible to stop a programm to run.
now, i've problems with my skype, i've updated it to 7.40 but there is
something wrong in this version.
i'm using windows 10 (newest version) and nvda2017.4
from the moment i'm running 7.40 of skype, and someone is calling me, i
hear skype ringing, that is as usual.
but when i accepted the call, skype keeps ringing, also when i've ended
the call, skype keeps ringing until i've stoped skype in the taskmanager
or i've reboot my computer.
what i wrote before, it was a long time ago possible to use the
taskmager but now i only hear list, list, list.
there is nothing i can do else than reboot my computer.
that is very annoing
is there a possibillity to use the taskmanager again or ofcaurse a
solution to use skype without false ringing problems?
i have 64 bit windows 10 running.
thank you in advance for your answer
regards
paul otter






Re: about taskmanager

 

Well I am really sick of this, task manager is so crappy and useless because of how it is the win7 one just worked.

I think its time for another alternit to task manager because crappy uia is obviously sucking.

I still say dispite all the new tech thats going on with uia that old crappy crap that it is the old msaa and older decade old out of date and now crappy stuff is still good for the user.

Just because microsoft says its old and crap now doesn't mean the users share the same experience.

Xp is crap because microsoft says it is, yet I am sure it started faster than win10 or 7 ever did on standard hard drives and there was nothing wrong with its interface.

I do wander if there are other task managers that will do simple things, processes and apps, the rest of it can go to the dogs for all I care.

And with all the cpu slowdowns going on due to updates and all the issues around that even the workstation my dad uses even with a lot of stuff taken off is now slow.

I have older i3 units and older systems that while were just barely usefull and some newer systems that were quite speedy, I may as well use for target shooting due to them being so slow they don't work well with anything.

I am glad I still use 7.

Serious outside my blustering, something has to get done with task manager, are ther alternitives, will an older win7 task manager work in the mean time, can the newer task manager get faster.

Universal apps are not like this, if there were like this users would be really angry.

On 10/02/2018 3:46 a.m., Felix G. wrote:
Hi Paul,
Task Manager is a bit slow on Windows 10 due to the way it implements UIA.
Make sure you got the Windows 10 Essentials add-on installed, and after
opening Task Manager, give it some time to fully establish communication
with NVDA. For me, anything up to a minute or even slightly more is
unfortunately normal.
Greetings,
Felix

P. Otter <pam.otter@gmail.com> schrieb am Fr., 9. Feb. 2018 um 13:13 Uhr:

hello, a long, long time ago, it was possible for me to use the
taskmanager.
so it was possible to stop a programm to run.
now, i've problems with my skype, i've updated it to 7.40 but there is
something wrong in this version.
i'm using windows 10 (newest version) and nvda2017.4
from the moment i'm running 7.40 of skype, and someone is calling me, i
hear skype ringing, that is as usual.
but when i accepted the call, skype keeps ringing, also when i've ended
the call, skype keeps ringing until i've stoped skype in the taskmanager
or i've reboot my computer.
what i wrote before, it was a long time ago possible to use the
taskmager but now i only hear list, list, list.
there is nothing i can do else than reboot my computer.
that is very annoing
is there a possibillity to use the taskmanager again or ofcaurse a
solution to use skype without false ringing problems?
i have 64 bit windows 10 running.
thank you in advance for your answer
regards
paul otter





How to silence NVDA when Cortana speaks?

Mel Thatcher
 

I wan to silence NVDA while Cortana speaks in Windows 10?  Are there ways to do this other than clicking the CTRL key?

Mel


Re: about taskmanager

 

Well you can always set all calls to autoanswer.

You can also check your communications page in sound settings to make sure that its not doing anything.

I have never had that issue on 7 but what I have noticed is that i have had to answer calls from the contact itself or message ariea rather than the answer menu.

I am unsure about the answering but to be honest if you set it to autoanswer the phone will not ring which is fine if in front of your system.

On 10/02/2018 1:13 a.m., P. Otter wrote:
hello, a long, long time ago, it was possible for me to use the taskmanager.
so it was possible to stop a programm to run.
now, i've problems with my skype, i've updated it to 7.40 but there is something wrong in this version.
i'm using windows 10 (newest version) and nvda2017.4
from the moment i'm running 7.40 of skype, and someone is calling me, i hear skype ringing, that is as usual.
but when i accepted the call, skype keeps ringing, also when i've ended the call, skype keeps ringing until i've stoped skype in the taskmanager or i've reboot my computer.
what i wrote before, it was a long time ago possible to use the taskmager but now i only hear list, list, list.
there is nothing i can do else than reboot my computer.
that is very annoing
is there a possibillity to use the taskmanager again or ofcaurse a solution to use skype without false ringing problems?
i have 64 bit windows 10 running.
thank you in advance for your answer
regards
paul otter



.


Re: code factory voices

Gene
 

There is a SAPI 5 version of Eloquence you can try.  I haven't used it in Windows 10.  I've heard contradictory things about whether it is responsive in Windows 10.  It works properly aside from the contradictory things I've heard about responsiveness.  I tried it in XP and it doesn't have any of the artifacts the add on has with Eloquence. 
 
You aren't limited to the two choices you are describing.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] code factory voices

You know what really gets my goat though.

We have a perfectly decently cracked version which is good.

Maybe to combat this they decide to well put out a payed version.

But when your legal version is not as good you have an issue, but
obviously they don't, good luck to me buying their stuff though.

Maybe I will get vocaliser and their packages via atguys thats only
because inoetics are no more with their stuff, and well there is
acapella, it costs a bit more.

Tempted to get infovox but then I  am uncertain.

Vocaliser which I do use from time to time in old realspeak form has
served me well.




On 9/02/2018 7:20 p.m., Vlad Dragomir wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to join you all in being disappointed. I bought this addon
> exactly because it offered Eloquence, and I ended up using Vocalizer
> all the time because of this. Moreover, no updates, no improvements
> whatsoever for three years, they seem to be no different from
> Tiflotecnia. It seems to be so tempting to put a half-baked product
> online and than sit down and see money poor in.
>
> I know it's useless to complain like this, so let's cheer up and hope
> for a change, miracles happen sometimes!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Vlad.
>
>
>
>




Re: suggestion for feedback

 

Yeah I know where you are driving at.

When I was doing a test on a game, tubesim nasoft was using a system called fossle.

The system was low cost, easy to use, easy to submit, easy to brouse.

But to search, you firstly needed to know the generated id number, which well I just discarded immediately.

If you tried a general search for the issue well nothing displayed properly, and you couldn't have a hope in hell to find anything in the database.

I in the end told nick how crappy it was and he tried it and found out the same.

He was a developer so was able to get it ok but it was not a usable system for users to handle and in the end bugs were logged on the system by him after we emailed him and messages were from email.

It seems that to avoid crappy systems we have to pay for a user experience.

While I don't mind paying I think there is something abhorrently wrong in charging for an easy to understand interface.

On 9/02/2018 11:05 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
The other problem with github which I forgot to mention is this.
When you want to find out if your issue already exists, the internal search seems to have been designed to not see the obvious, so to speak as almost every time I do an issue somebody piles in closed duplicate of xxxx. I do search, but increasingly I feel I'm wasting my time, as it never seems to spot anything other than stuff not related to my issue at all. Its kind of like its searching for everything but what I'm talking about!
Maybe its a programmer vs user language issue, who knows.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 3:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] suggestion for feedback


Well I think the idea is that the one field has all the suggested
information to include.  Having just one field hopefully doesn't seem as
intimidating as having a dozen fields to fill in.

But if it's not working and having a dozen smaller fields (I didn't count,
just grabbed the number out of the air) would be easier, then that's
certainly something to look at.



On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 1:17 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <
bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

However it is quite daunting  and needs a lot of concentration to actually
make it work for you. I guess if you were in there all the time it would
become easier. I'm not a fan of the in field suggestions either. I'd prefer
separate fields with supporting text like most forms are.That way one can
actually make sense of what should go where. Brian

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----- Original Message -----
*From:* Jason White via Groups.Io <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io>
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Sent:* Thursday, February 08, 2018 11:49 PM
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] suggestion for feedback

I think GitHub issue tracking is the right tool for the purpose.



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Quentin
Christensen
*Sent:* Thursday, February 8, 2018 6:46 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] suggestion for feedback



Hi Rusty,



Having a link directly to the issue tracker (even to create a new issue)
isn't a bad idea (unfortunately it will require someone to create an issue
on Github to get the ball rolling *grin*).  As we use GitHub, it would
still open a browser and you would need to be logged into (or create) a
Github account.  Even if we moved away from Github to another issue
tracker, I don't see a way around that, as the issue tracker does several
things:

1. It keeps track of issues that people raise and allows them to be
prioritised and followed through to completion.

2. By registering, it allows the developers to ask follow-up questions,
provide links to test builds so the original person (and anyone else
interested) can see if we have indeed resolved the issue.

3. It allows issues to be searchable and keeps them all in one place.



If we just had say a "provide feedback" option in NVDA which simply sent
us an e-mail with your problem / idea / etc, then it would be hard to keep
track of who had asked for what, how many people were having a particular
problem, and we would get a lot of duplicate e-mails.



The other thing with Github is that while NV Access has several in-house
developers, there are many others around the world who also contribute
code, testing, feedback and other assistance and we need a central
repository to make that all possible.  If you e-mailed me and asked for a
particular feature, we can look at it, but it might be something that isn't
a high enough priority to get to immediately.  It might however, be
something one of our other contributors has an interest in and would like
to write some code to support and they may be able to get to it faster, but
I don't necessarily know who might be interested.



So, in short... would you like to create a github issue with your idea?
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/new



Regards



Quentin.



On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Rusty Perez <rustys.lists@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hey folks,
I think it would be a GREAT idea for NVDA to have a feedback option
right in the NVDA menu.
"report a problem" or something like that.
Honestly, it's easier for me to just use another browser than to slog
through a registration and goofing around in github to report a
problem.

I know, NVDA is donation ware, but it might make the product even
better to make giving feedback a more painless process. :)

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On 2/8/18, Rusty Perez <rustys.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, my fix was Chrome browser. :)
Works just fine so far. So, this is not an NVDA and windows thing as
far as I can tell.

Rusty
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On 2/8/18, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
<the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
no help but I have reported this more than once. but don't have a fix.
using windows 10 64 bit and ff ESR what ever the latest
incarnation of
this is hope this helps. and fire fox is 32 bit.

On 08/02/2018 19:23, Rusty Perez wrote:
Hey folks,

For the past few weeks this has been getting progressively worse.
I bring up FF and hafter just a few minutes of reading a page, or
scrolling down in emails, NVDA goes silent. I wait for a few
moments
and speech comes back.

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Re: code factory voices

 

You know what really gets my goat though.

We have a perfectly decently cracked version which is good.

Maybe to combat this they decide to well put out a payed version.

But when your legal version is not as good you have an issue, but obviously they don't, good luck to me buying their stuff though.

Maybe I will get vocaliser and their packages via atguys thats only because inoetics are no more with their stuff, and well there is acapella, it costs a bit more.

Tempted to get infovox but then I  am uncertain.

Vocaliser which I do use from time to time in old realspeak form has served me well.

On 9/02/2018 7:20 p.m., Vlad Dragomir wrote:
Hi all,

I'd like to join you all in being disappointed. I bought this addon exactly because it offered Eloquence, and I ended up using Vocalizer all the time because of this. Moreover, no updates, no improvements whatsoever for three years, they seem to be no different from Tiflotecnia. It seems to be so tempting to put a half-baked product online and than sit down and see money poor in.

I know it's useless to complain like this, so let's cheer up and hope for a change, miracles happen sometimes!

Best regards,

Vlad.



Re: Making pauses durring say all?

Gene
 

What synthesizer are you using?  There are already pauses after sentences with every synthesizer I've used and they are longer than the pauses JAWS has if using Eloquence.  In JAWS, the pauses are almost nonexistent and almost the only thing that happens is that the voice is lowered as it would be at the end.  I haven't tried other synthesizers in JAWS.  Are you saying you don't hear a brief pause?
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 6:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Making pauses durring say all?

I should have been more clearer.

Something that I could say pause after every sentence, kind of like jaws does.


On 2/10/2018 4:44 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> Do you mean, just to pause it manually or are you asking if there is
> some control character, you can embed to do this always?
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Turner" <meturner2214@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 8:37 PM
> Subject: [nvda] Making pauses durring say all?
>
>
>> Hi folks.
>>
>> Subject says it all.
>>
>> Let's say I'm reading a book, or what ever, is there anyway to have
>> the voice I'm using pause, while reading?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>








Google drive again

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Strangely this morning Google drive has come back to xp again, using the old google drive software, not the new one which crashes with that wonderful 'if you were in the middle of something' error so beloved of xp users!

Brian

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Re: help with google chrome dealing with clickable graphics

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

It sounds like its not seeing the clickable status to me. That has to be the browser I'd have thought.
If you get on the item and use insert numpad enter does that work?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue J. Ward" <groovy41@juno.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 4:44 PM
Subject: [nvda] help with google chrome dealing with clickable graphics


Hello. I did download the latest version of chrome and I have both browsers on a windows 7 and a windows 10 machine. When I am on a website a radio station one that has a clickable graphic to click on to listen to when I press enter on it for some reason either nvda or google chrome I guess does not see it. When I am using fire fox and I go to the same website and click on the clickable graphic to listen to the radio station no problem the stations plays in the browser and another window pops up. I was wondering why is this happening cause in the previous version when using google chrome nvda and chrome were getting along well and I can listen to the stations in chrome, what has changed between chrome and fire fox? Can some one explain to me what is going on here and are there any work around in dealing with this? Thank you.
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Re: help with google chrome dealing with clickable graphics

Gene
 

Why do you say the browser doesn't see it?  Does it show as a graphic or as clickable or whatever the case?  You say another window opens.  Perhaps it's a popup and Chrome is blocking it.  What happens if you use shift enter and not just enter?  That command often is used in Windows browsers to bypass the popup blocker built into the browser.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 10:44 AM
Subject: [nvda] help with google chrome dealing with clickable graphics

  Hello. I did download the latest version of chrome and I have both
browsers on a windows 7 and a windows 10 machine. When I am on a website
a radio station one that has a clickable graphic to click on to listen
to when I press enter on it for some reason either nvda or google chrome
I guess does not see it. When I am using fire fox and I go to the same
website and click on the clickable graphic to listen to the radio
station no problem the stations plays in the browser and another window
pops up. I was wondering why is this happening cause in the previous
version when using google chrome nvda and chrome were getting along well
and I can listen to the stations in chrome, what has changed between
chrome and fire fox? Can some one explain to me what is going on here
and are there any work around in dealing with this? Thank you.
____________________________________________________________
We Say GoodBye To Sally Fields
iflperfecttouch.com
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5a7f21731005c21725890st04vuc



Re: Some issues

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

You can call it what you like of course but it has to end in the extension .bat of course.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some issues


If the person feels OK writing a short text file and placing it on the desktop or in the root with a shortcut on the desktop, I have found this batch file invaluable to get the last log safely. If done after the nvda F1 it contains the info that generated as well as rebooting nnvda.

Make a new text file as below.
Ie in notepad, not a word processor.

@echo off
cd "%temp%"
start /WAIT nvda.exe -q

start notepad.exe nvda.log
rem, this line just kicks its heels for a bit to make sure the log is loaded into notepad before rebooting nvda.
ping -n 5 127.0.0.1>nul
start nvda.exe
exit

That is it. I have found the delay to be most helpful in not mucking up the log if the computer is a little slow if the error has slowed stuff down.

Note make sure that no wordwrap is on. We do not want any line to wrap as it probably has in this email!
Brian
Brian




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----- Original Message -----
From: "Adriani Botez" <adriani.botez@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some issues


Hello,



great to have you in our community.



Please do following to accelerate investigations:

1. Go to NVDA-Menu (NVDA+n) and go to preferences / general settings
2. Set the debugging level to "debug"
3. When outlook crashes or when NVDA is becoming silent, press NVDA+f1
after NVDA is responding again. But please do not restart NVDA before
pressing NVDA+f1
4. Please try to reproduce your problem as soon as possible after
starting NVDA because otherwise the log file which is generated when
pressing NVDA+f1 will be very long
5. Save the log file and send it here by e-mail or create an issue on
github.



Thanks.





Best

Adriani



Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von
Othoniel Cavanellas
Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Februar 2018 12:52
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] Some issues



Hello,

I have been using NVDA for the past 30 days and I am experiencing problems
with Outlook 2016. If NVDA is active, whenever I switch from one mailbox to
another, Outlook crashes and is restarted. It also happens when I open
certain types of messages, normally messages with some type of image
inbedded (in this case I close NVDA and the message opens OK). I also
tested shutting down the antivirus to see if I was affecting NVDA, but the
problems persist.



Below you have my PC config:



Windows 10 PRO Portuguese version 1709 edition 16299.192

NVDA version 2017.4

MS Office 365

Trendmicro Maximum Security

Another issue is that sometimes NVDA mutes for no reason, and suddenly
restarts talking, or if I force its restart, it works again.



Can you guys help me with these problems?



Many thanks and greetings from Brazil!



Othoniel Cavanellas

Rio de Janeiro







Re: Making pauses durring say all?

 

Hi,
This is mostly synthesizer dependent, although there is a huge project to bring this to reality somewhat.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 6:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Making pauses durring say all?

I should have been more clearer.

Something that I could say pause after every sentence, kind of like jaws does.


On 2/10/2018 4:44 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Do you mean, just to pause it manually or are you asking if there is
some control character, you can embed to do this always?
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Turner" <meturner2214@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 8:37 PM
Subject: [nvda] Making pauses durring say all?


Hi folks.

Subject says it all.

Let's say I'm reading a book, or what ever, is there anyway to have
the voice I'm using pause, while reading?






help with google chrome dealing with clickable graphics

Sue J. Ward
 

Hello. I did download the latest version of chrome and I have both browsers on a windows 7 and a windows 10 machine. When I am on a website a radio station one that has a clickable graphic to click on to listen to when I press enter on it for some reason either nvda or google chrome I guess does not see it. When I am using fire fox and I go to the same website and click on the clickable graphic to listen to the radio station no problem the stations plays in the browser and another window pops up. I was wondering why is this happening cause in the previous version when using google chrome nvda and chrome were getting along well and I can listen to the stations in chrome, what has changed between chrome and fire fox? Can some one explain to me what is going on here and are there any work around in dealing with this? Thank you.
____________________________________________________________
We Say GoodBye To Sally Fields
iflperfecttouch.com
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5a7f21731005c21725890st04vuc


Re: Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

 

Hi
I tried openning this using FS Reader, and AMIS. It both crashed.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 12:24 AM
Subject: [nvda] Now available: DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks to AccessiDocs project from Pennsylvania Council of the Blind, an audio DAISY version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set is now available from:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/DB-Welcome_to_NVDA_2018-by-Joseph_lee.zip

 

The DAISY book is a bit out of date, but for the most part, it is up to date.

 

Also, a UK-based charity named BCAB has offered to distribute this tutorial set on physical media for a fee.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: RES: [nvda] Unable to Start Outlook 2016 While Running NVDA

Gene
 

The list, as mosts lists, doesn't allow attachments.  You can copy and paste the log into the message.  I've seen requests from one or two developers to add only the relevant parts of the log to the message.  If you don't know what's relevant, I don't know what the developers would say but for now you could add the entire log.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 8:22 AM
Subject: RES: [nvda] Unable to Start Outlook 2016 While Running NVDA

Hello All,

Following Gene advice attached you have a printscreen of my log with the exact moment when Outlook crashes, when I switch from one to another mailbox. If anyone can interprete it and find a solution for me, it will be wonderful.

 

De: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Em nome de Cohn, Jonathan
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 9 de fevereiro de 2018 13:08
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Unable to Start Outlook 2016 While Running NVDA

 

That sounds quite annoying. Couldn’t a addon be created that would jump focus to the correct place when control-Y is pressed? Though from the response form the original poster there is someplace else where NVDA and Outlook are agreeing to disagree in one of the panels.

 

Also, any regular user of NVDA using an insider build of Outlook who could comment on if this is still occurring in the latest builds?

Thanks,

 

Jonathan Cohn

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:45 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to Start Outlook 2016 While Running NVDA

 

Ralf,

 

How are you changing folders in Outlook 2016? There is a known bug where if you use ctrl+y and the resulting tree view to switch folders, outlook crashes. You need to use the folder pane accessed by ctrl+shift+tab.

 

Pranav