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Re: Video editing
how about ezvid if i am correct in spelling?
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is it accessible?
On 2/14/18, Robert Kingett <kingettr@gmail.com> wrote:
This is accessible but not as good as Virtual Dub and the video editor by --
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Re: explanation
Gene
That's nice but it doesn't mean you shouldn't try
what I said. You can listen online and you will have such problems in
future with various audio streams unless you learn other ways of working with
audio sites that have podcasts than just use save target as.
Gene
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When I wrote to the website owners they sent me the link with the url and I managed to downloaded. Regards Anthony -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: 13 February 2018 21:13 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] explanation Some sites actively prohibit downloading of their content. I've noticed this for copyright material, where you can listen but not store locally. there are of course ways around many of these but I'd be a bit worried about mentioning any here except the obvious one of virtunual recorder. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] explanation Some sites won't let you save the file using save target as. Save target as is described by some people as the way to save everything. It's not. You are saving the actual link, the way that site is organized. Press enter on the play link and let it start to play in whatever browser you are using, if you are using Firefox or Chrome. Then, when play begins, use the command control s to open a save dialog. Use that dialog to save the audio file. I'm not sure that will work in Internet Explorer but if you are using Internet Explorer, I think it will either open the save dialog or it will open Windows Media Player or some other program. You can tell us what happens and we might be able to tell you how to save the file from the player. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: anthony borg Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 9:53 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] explanation Hi folks I wonder if anyone can help me. I'm trying to download a podcast from a particular website and evrytime I try to use the save target as to save it. It always being saved as html file and not as mp3. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Anthony
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Re: explanation
Gene
I looked at the cite. First, never assume
that an audio link leads directly to the audio when you try save target and it
doesn't work. If you follow the link from the home page that says podcast,
you are taken to a different web page from which you listen to the
podcast. Not everything that calls itself a podcast can be
downloaded. When you used save target as, you were saving the link to the
page you need to go to. Once you get there, you will see something, but I
don't know just what because it may depend on the browser and screen-reader
being used. The combination of NVDA and Firefox shows, partway down the
page, a line that says, web player and below that, a line that says
application.
Don't down arrow past the line that says web
player. Start tabbing. You will see a play button. Press enter
on it. The podcast will start to play. Using the space bar on the
button won't work. Never assume how things are laid out on web
pages. If something doesn't work and there is a link to follow, such as in
this case to the podcast, follow it and see what happens. Save target as
works at times and it doesn't at other times.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Thanks in advance for your help. Regards Anthony -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: 13 February 2018 21:16 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] explanation Tell us the site, often they have a different link to download to the play one. There could be many reasons apart from copyright, it may well be that the files are not in the same place all the time and the html inteermediary page then redirects the user to the right place. Examining some of these downloaded small html files can give a clue to where the file actually is stored but not always. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "anthony borg" <anthonyborg001@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:53 PM Subject: [nvda] explanation > Hi folks > > I wonder if anyone can help me. I'm trying to download a podcast from a > particular website and evrytime I try to use the save target as to save > it. > > It always being saved as html file and not as mp3. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks in advance > > Anthony > >
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Re: explanation
Gene
Please provide full links. You can go to the
page you are having a problem with, in this case the page where the link is you
are trying to follow, copy the address to the clipboard from the address bar,
then paste it into the message. That way, people can go to the same page
immediately.
The way you are doing it now, people have to verify
the address of the site with an Internet search, go to the home page, then look
for and go to what they think is the page you are having a problem with.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Thanks in advance for your help. Regards Anthony -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: 13 February 2018 21:16 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] explanation Tell us the site, often they have a different link to download to the play one. There could be many reasons apart from copyright, it may well be that the files are not in the same place all the time and the html inteermediary page then redirects the user to the right place. Examining some of these downloaded small html files can give a clue to where the file actually is stored but not always. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "anthony borg" <anthonyborg001@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:53 PM Subject: [nvda] explanation > Hi folks > > I wonder if anyone can help me. I'm trying to download a podcast from a > particular website and evrytime I try to use the save target as to save > it. > > It always being saved as html file and not as mp3. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks in advance > > Anthony > >
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Re: explanation
anthony borg
Hi gene Firstly thanks very much for yourhelp and explanation. Oh yes, can you please explain to me how to do it the file through media player? Thanks in advance Anthony
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 13 February 2018 20:13 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] explanation
Some sites won't let you save the file using save target as. Save target as is described by some people as the way to save everything. It's not. You are saving the actual link, the way that site is organized. Press enter on the play link and let it start to play in whatever browser you are using, if you are using Firefox or Chrome. Then, when play begins, use the command control s to open a save dialog. Use that dialog to save the audio file. I'm not sure that will work in Internet Explorer but if you are using Internet Explorer, I think it will either open the save dialog or it will open Windows Media Player or some other program. You can tell us what happens and we might be able to tell you how to save the file from the player.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Hi folks I wonder if anyone can help me. I’m trying to download a podcast from a particular website and evrytime I try to use the save target as to save it. It always being saved as html file and not as mp3. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Anthony
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Re: explanation
anthony borg
Many thanks for your advice and help. Regards
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: 13 February 2018 20:32 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] explanation
Either your mouse pointer is not actually in the right position to activate the link (if you are using right click, this may well be the case), or, as has already been said, the link takes to you to a page, and isn’t actually an mp3 download. Hit enter and see what happens. I personally much prefer the way Firefox handles downloads….
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony borg
Hi folks I wonder if anyone can help me. I’m trying to download a podcast from a particular website and evrytime I try to use the save target as to save it. It always being saved as html file and not as mp3. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Anthony
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Re: Video editing
This is accessible but not as good as Virtual Dub and the video editor by NCH, videopad.
Machete Video Editor Lite - Edit AVI and WMV video files without decoding/quality loss http://machetesoft.com/home/about-machete-video-editor-lite.html
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Re: explanation
anthony borg
Hi brian
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When I wrote to the website owners they sent me the link with the url and I managed to downloaded. Regards Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: 13 February 2018 21:13 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] explanation Some sites actively prohibit downloading of their content. I've noticed this for copyright material, where you can listen but not store locally. there are of course ways around many of these but I'd be a bit worried about mentioning any here except the obvious one of virtunual recorder. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] explanation Some sites won't let you save the file using save target as. Save target as is described by some people as the way to save everything. It's not. You are saving the actual link, the way that site is organized. Press enter on the play link and let it start to play in whatever browser you are using, if you are using Firefox or Chrome. Then, when play begins, use the command control s to open a save dialog. Use that dialog to save the audio file. I'm not sure that will work in Internet Explorer but if you are using Internet Explorer, I think it will either open the save dialog or it will open Windows Media Player or some other program. You can tell us what happens and we might be able to tell you how to save the file from the player. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: anthony borg Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 9:53 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] explanation Hi folks I wonder if anyone can help me. I'm trying to download a podcast from a particular website and evrytime I try to use the save target as to save it. It always being saved as html file and not as mp3. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Anthony
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Re: explanation
anthony borg
It is the website of NCBI technology.
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Thanks in advance for your help. Regards Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: 13 February 2018 21:16 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] explanation Tell us the site, often they have a different link to download to the play one. There could be many reasons apart from copyright, it may well be that the files are not in the same place all the time and the html inteermediary page then redirects the user to the right place. Examining some of these downloaded small html files can give a clue to where the file actually is stored but not always. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "anthony borg" <anthonyborg001@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:53 PM Subject: [nvda] explanation Hi folks
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Re: New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!
Gene
There are sites where JAVA scripts are
necessary. You have different alternatives. You can have more than
one copy of firefox on your machine. You can have whatever version you
have now with JAVA scripts off, and a portable version, the same version but a
portable one, with JAVA scripts on. You would use one when you
want to have JAVA scripts off and the other when you want them on.
You can turn scripts on when you need them in
Firefox in about:config, and then turn them off again, but that is
inconvenient. You can use a program like noscript. I haven't used it
to any extent and I'm not sure how convenient or accessible it is.
I didn't say anything about your sincerity.
You obviously believe what you are saying. You never present any basis for
it nor do you explain why computer and security experts who say you should use
such programs are wrong.
This appears to verge on classic conspiracy theory
thinking. With all the businesses and government agencies and schools
and scientific organizations in the world who rely on such programs, and with
all the white hat hackers in the world, if a program were selling information
stolen by their programs, it would be headline news.
If you trust malware designers to keep your
computer safe more than reputable antimalware programs, that's your
choice. It is not logical but that's your choice.
Gene
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From: zahra
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 2:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete
Disaster! i disabled javascript and many features of firefox. but i said with complete sincerity that i dont trust any security programs and never use them. i changed many settings in options and also about:config i realy wish to know which setting i change and i cant login to my quora account with disabling javascript! can you please tell me changing what setting may caused this problem for me? openning sites with javascript, displaying frames and flash content is extremely difficult, specially for screen reader users. i realy dont believe in updating softwares,operating system and concerning about technology. it causes just afraid, worried, and sadness to always be change, think about beeing updating and just use new technologies. On 2/12/18, Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...> wrote: > The XP machines when trying to update doesn't work very well. > So I don't keep upgrading because it brings my machine down and un useable. > So I know that on this machine I use it for mail and basic stuff, making > sure not to open URL's I don't know or emails. > Thanks, we all have to do what makes productive the best we can be > ! > > > > $$$$ > > EMAIL:karim.lakhani@... > $$$$ > SKYPE: goldenace4 > $$$$ > Keep your fears to yourself, > but share your courage with others. > **** > Robert Louis Stevenson > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's > Mail list account via Groups.Io > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 9:42 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster! > > I feel you are being a little unfair. I have no issue with people wanting > to use older systems, but I do feel that it does pay to know the risks. > There will always be niche users, but XP is still being used by one heck of > a lot of people out there, despite all you say. its a fact, I see it every > day and its exactly why I keep a couple of machines running it here to just > see what state the choices of what you can use are in now. > > > I also agree of course that many many sites and programs are suspect and > full of holes or infected with goodness only knows what. One has to live > with some risk but it can be reduced. > I don't think being dismissive of people is the way to get change, myself. > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 10:52 AM > Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster! > > > It's unfortunate you have such a well developed ability to ignore facts and > > real situations and possibilities. Malware can attack your computer > without > you doing anything incorrect. there is a growing problem of malware > infesting hacked ads even on the most reputable sites. So you trust > malware > makers not to attack your computer without your knowledge more than you > trust reputable malware companies to gibve you some amount of meaningful > protection? There are malware program manufacturers that are reputable and > > very highly thought of. Not trusting anyone in the context you speak of is > > irrational and ignores well established facts. And to make matters worse, > you are using a vulnerable version of Windows and an an increasingly aging > browser that won't have any security updates for XP users in about six > months if you use the ESR version. You are also not using the ESR version > as far as I know which means your browser is increasingly vulnerable > because > it hasn't received updates in quite some time. > > Are you at least disabling JAVA scripts unless they are needed? That will > give you quite a bit of protection on the Internet. > > As I said, your ability to completely ignore facts is unfortunate and > evidently, well entrenched. > > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: zahra > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:34 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster! > > > hello. > i dont use such program and dont trust anyone. > > On 2/12/18, Peter Chin <peter.chinpk@...> wrote: >> Hello XP Users, >> >> May I know, what antivirus and antimalware do you use? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io >> Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 5:26 PM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster! >> >> Nothing wrong with XP Skype still runs on mine, indeed I have three here >> in >> the homw of old tech. >> They do what they do well enough. >> Brian >> >> bglists@... >> Sent via blueyonder. >> Please address personal email to:- >> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >> in the display name field. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "JM Casey" <crystallogic@...> >> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 6:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster! >> >> >> Isn't there even a portable version of skype? I used it for a while in >> 2016, >> when, believe it or not, I still used an XP machine. It was very fast and >> stable compared to ... basically any other skype I ever used, including > on >> Windows 10 at work. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of >> Brian's >> Mail list account via Groups.Io >> Sent: January 8, 2018 4:24 AM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster! >> >> I think the question has to be, does the old version of Skype, the one >> used >> by windows 7, install OK on 10, and if it does why do we need the new > one? >> Brian >> >> bglists@... >> Sent via blueyonder. >> Please address personal email to:- >> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >> in the display name field. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> >> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2018 10:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster! >> >> >> Hi, >> The universal Skype app is the Windows 10 version of Skype. >> Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann >> Byrne >> Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2018 1:57 PM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster! >> >> What is the universal skype app??? >> At 03:03 PM 1/7/2018, you wrote: >> >>>I use Skype for WIN 10 also. Their is nothing wrong with it. Don't >>>knock it till you try it guys. >>> >>>On 1/6/2018 10:50 PM, David Moore wrote: >>>>I use the universal Skype app all the time. >>>>Tabbing three or four times, is not that bad, along with some key >>>>commands. I can find what I want quicker than I can with the desktop >>>>program. NVDA really works well with the Skype app. That is awesome. >>>>Have a great one, guys! >>>>Sent from <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>Mail for >>>>Windows 10 >>>>From: <mailto:joseph.lee22590@...>Joseph Lee >>>>Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 10:12 PM >>>>To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io >>>>Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster! >>>>ย >>>>Hi, >>>>Skype universal app does have shortcut keys, such as Alt+1 to go to >>>>conversations, Alt+2 for contacts, Alt+3 for bots and so on). >>>>Cheers, >>>>Joseph >>>>ย >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: >>>><mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io >>>>[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey >>>>Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 6:56 PM >>>>To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io >>>>Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster! >>>>ย >>>>That's such a slugish and obnoxious way to navigate a programme, >>>>really. Come on Microsoft. >>>>ย >>>>ย >>>>ย >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: >>>><mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io >>>>[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige >>>>Sent: January 6, 2018 9:52 PM >>>>To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io >>>>Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster! >>>>ย >>>>In the new Windows app thing? Sure. In fact I think it's the only way >>>>to use it really. >>>>ย >>>>ย >>>>On 1/6/2018 20:28, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: >>>> >ย >>>> > Can you still tab around Skype like normal, though? I'm curious, >>>> >because I've never really used keyboard shortcuts. Just menus and >>>> >tabbing between options. >>>> >ย >>>> >ย >>>> > On 7/01/2018 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>>> >>ย >>>> >> Awesome. It's gone. Thanks. I'll go install the classic version >>>> >>here in a bit. >>>> >>ย >>>> >>ย >>>> >> On 1/6/2018 9:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>>> >>>ย >>>> >>> OK, I didn't think it worked that way for universal apps. >>>> >>>ย >>>> >>>ย >>>> >>> I'll give it a try. >>>> >>>ย >>>> >>>ย >>>> >>> On 1/6/2018 8:58 PM, Rich De Steno wrote: >>>> >>>>ย >>>> >>>> The same way you uninstall any program: >>>> >>>>ย >>>> >>>> Press your Windows key and type remove ย Arrow down to "Add and >>>> >>>>Remove Programs and press Enter ย Arrow down to Skype in the >>>> >>>>list of programs ย Press your applications key and arrow down to >>>> >>>>remove and press Enter ย ย ย On 1/6/2018 7:38 PM, >>>> >>>>Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>>> >>>>>ย >>>> >>>>> So then, I guess my next question would be how to uninstall the >>>> >>>>>universal version within Windows 10. I guess Google's to the >>>> >>>>>rescue. LOL! >>>> >>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>ย >>>> >>>>> On 1/6/2018 6:49 PM, ivรกn Novegil wrote: >>>> >>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>> Yes, installer downloaded from both links works with windows10. >>>> >>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>> Skype forces to use Universal app only in 8.x. I could install >>>> >>>>>>7.x (version downloadable from the two links sent) in Win10 >>>> >>>>>>without problems some weeks ago. >>>> >>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>> Regards. >>>> >>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>> Ivรกn Novegil Cancelas >>>> >>>>>> Editor >>>> >>>>>> <mailto:ivan.novegil@...>ivan.novegil@... >>>> >>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>> Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es >>>> >>>>>>-www.NVDA.es ย Usuario do NVDA en galego ย ***Note que a >>>> >>>>>>anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter >>>> >>>>>>informaciรณn privada ou confidencial. O >>>> emprego da informaciรณn desta mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos estรก >>>> reservado ao รกmbito privado do destinatario agรกs autorizaciรณn do >>>> remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe por erro comunรญqueo por esta >>>> mesma vรญa e destrรบa a >>>> mensaxe.*** O 06/01/2018 รก(s) 23:54, Christopher-Mark Gilland > escribiu: >>>> >>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>> Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with Windows 10 >>>> >>>>>>>as well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of >> Skype. >>>> >>>>>>> Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely don't >>>> >>>>>>>prefer it. >>>> >>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>> I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people >>>> >>>>>>>seem to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I >>>> >>>>>>>can get that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10, and >>>> >>>>>>>get rid of the classic version, that would be fantastic! >>>> >>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>> On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>> Rich, >>>> >>>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>>> Remove your current skype installation and install the skype >>>> >>>>>>>>classic version from this link: If you do not remove the old >>>> >>>>>>>>installation, you will get two skype >>>> versions after installation of the classic version. >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> <http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full>http://www.skype.com/go/getsky >>>> pe-full >>>> >>>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, Marten >>>> >>>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 >>>> "Brian's Mail list account via >>>> Groups.Io"<mailto:bglists@...><bglists=blueyon >>>> der.co.uk@groups.io>ย >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>>>> I've never had it force an update on >>>> windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks. >>>> >>>>>>>>>ย ย I'm not sure how one gets the old version. >>>> >>>>>>>>> However there does seem to have been >>>> a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I >>>> hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the >>>> tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back >>>> afterwards seemed rather draconian to me. >>>> >>>>>>>>>ย ย Brian >>>> >>>>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:bglists@...>bglists@... >>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent via blueyonder. >>>> >>>>>>>>> Please address personal email to:- >>>> <mailto:briang1@...>briang1@..., >>>> >>>>>>>>> putting 'Brian Gaff' >>>> >>>>>>>>> in the display name field. >>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> Steno"<mailto:ironrock@...><ironrock@...> >>>> To:<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io><nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM >>>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster! >>>> >>>>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>>>> I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. >>>> >>>>>>>>> Suddenly, tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered >>>> >>>>>>>>>Skype, a new version was forcibly installed, something like >>>> >>>>>>>>>Version 8.1.2, and it presented me with an interface that I >>>> >>>>>>>>>could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the shortcut keys >>>> >>>>>>>>>that I previously used would work. I received a call from a >>>> >>>>>>>>>friend right after this forced installation and could not >>>> >>>>>>>>>answer it, because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for >>>> >>>>>>>>>answering a call was useless, as were all other previous >>>> >>>>>>>>>shortcut keys. What is the solution to this problem. I >>>> >>>>>>>>>totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype >>>> >>>>>>>>>as NVDA >>>> users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat >>>> program? >>>> >>>>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>>>> -- Rich De Steno >>>> >>>>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>> >>>>>>> Christopher Gilland >>>> >>>>>>> Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries >>>> >>>>>>><http://www.gshministries.org>http://www.gshministries.org >>>> >>>>>>> (980) 500-9575X401 >>>> >>>>>>ย >>>> >>>>>ย >>>> >>>>> -- >>>> >>>>> Christopher Gilland >>>> >>>>> Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries >>>> >>>>><http://www.gshministries.org>http://www.gshministries.org >>>> >>>>> (980) 500-9575X401 >>>> >>>>ย >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Rich De Steno >>>> >>>ย >>>> >>> -- >>>> >>> Christopher Gilland >>>> >>> Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries >>>> >>><http://www.gshministries.org>http://www.gshministries.org >>>> >>> (980) 500-9575X401 >>>> >>ย >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Christopher Gilland >>>> >> Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries >>>> >><http://www.gshministries.org>http://www.gshministries.org >>>> >> (980) 500-9575X401 >>>> >ย >>>> > >>>>ย >>>>ย >>>>ย >>>>ย >>>>ย >>>>ย >>>>ย >>>>ย >>>>ย >>>>ย >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. > holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. > in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: > indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. > best website for studying islamic book in different languages > www.al-islam.org > > > > > > > > > > > -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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Re: Google drive again
hi.
thanks so much for your link. but did you try the old version to see is it working now? for example: when using gmail, because i use basic html and disabled javascript, i can even use firefox 3 to use my gmail! its very interesting and joyful for me to know, i can use any version of firefox to use gmail and all websites when disabling javascript! does it also have google docs? i wish that know for xp users is it possible to use google docs for ocr of pdf files? thanks again and God bless you! On 2/12/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
-- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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Re: Earlier version working
but for me, who use nvda 2017.2, nvda becomes silent many times, i
should unload it again, after ten seconds nvda loads again and only says: nvda loading please waite and i cant do anytthing. one time i experienced this very seriously and could not do anything just says: please waite! so, i restart my system to work again. for me, previous versions until 2016.2 was very great and responsive. between newer versions, i only did not have this issue (at least most of times was responsive), only 2017.1 On 2/14/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote: That is indeed very odd, as in the main I'd say that the last two versions -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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Re: Earlier version working
Gene
You can always complicate matters
unnecessarily. The rule about subject lines is a standard part of
netiquette. You can have subject lines that say things like, NVdA crashes
when Microsoft Word is run. That is a subject line. You can go into
detail in the message. If the problem is solved, the solution should not
be in a changed subject line. It should be in a message body. If you
can give concrete examples where a subject line needs to be changed or cannot be
adequate, I'll consider them. I can not see any such cases. A
subject is that which something is about. How can you have a subject that
can't be defined in such a way?
Gene
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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 1:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Earlier version working in what software depends on whether one has to do something special to alter a sub line or create a new one and or quote an old one in it. its not as simple as you make it sound for many people. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:06 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Earlier version working Please don't change subject lines and start new threads when talking about the same subject. You started an entirely new thread and your subject line has little or no meaning to anyone who doesn't remember what the other thread was about. In addition, if someone is following the thread in the archives, if you change the subject line, you start an entirely new thread and make it much harder for people to follow the discussion. Also, if people read mail by conversation in their e-mail program, they see the new subject line as a completely new conversation. A subject line is to tell what the message is about. It is not to state something pertaining to the subject that should be in the message body. the entire thread has been about something you are having a problem with. The subject didn't change to a statement that you got it working. the subject is still the same. That you got it working is a statement about the subject that should be in the message body. I am becoming increasingly concerning with the rampant misuse of subject lines in this way on the lists I moderate and own. I shall be commenting on this increasingly when I see people do this sort of thing. I do little moderation but I consider this to be important. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Debra Gardner Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:21 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Earlier version working Well, in frustration, I uninstalled the latest version of NVDA and installed one from 2015. Voila! Everything is working. I don't know why. No more unknowns and silences. Since it's an earlier version perhaps the finer tunings don't work as well, but it's nice to have it back!
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Re: New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!
gene,
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i disabled javascript and many features of firefox. but i said with complete sincerity that i dont trust any security programs and never use them. i changed many settings in options and also about:config i realy wish to know which setting i change and i cant login to my quora account with disabling javascript! can you please tell me changing what setting may caused this problem for me? openning sites with javascript, displaying frames and flash content is extremely difficult, specially for screen reader users. i realy dont believe in updating softwares,operating system and concerning about technology. it causes just afraid, worried, and sadness to always be change, think about beeing updating and just use new technologies.
On 2/12/18, Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@shaw.ca> wrote:
The XP machines when trying to update doesn't work very well. --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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Re: Earlier version working
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
That is indeed very odd, as in the main I'd say that the last two versions of nvda have been much better than anything from 2015, unless the version of Firefox or a combination of add ons in it are doing things not entirely expected.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Debra Gardner" <dgardner18@satx.rr.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 2:21 AM Subject: [nvda] Earlier version working Well, in frustration, I uninstalled the latest version of NVDA and installed one from 2015. Voila! Everything is working. I don't know why. No more unknowns and silences. Since it's an earlier version perhaps the finer tunings don't work as well, but it's nice to have it back!
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Re: Earlier version working
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I think the issue often is that depending on how the messages are read, ie in what software depends on whether one has to do something special to alter a sub line or create a new one and or quote an old one in it. its not as simple as you make it sound for many people.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:06 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Earlier version working Please don't change subject lines and start new threads when talking about the same subject. You started an entirely new thread and your subject line has little or no meaning to anyone who doesn't remember what the other thread was about. In addition, if someone is following the thread in the archives, if you change the subject line, you start an entirely new thread and make it much harder for people to follow the discussion. Also, if people read mail by conversation in their e-mail program, they see the new subject line as a completely new conversation. A subject line is to tell what the message is about. It is not to state something pertaining to the subject that should be in the message body. the entire thread has been about something you are having a problem with. The subject didn't change to a statement that you got it working. the subject is still the same. That you got it working is a statement about the subject that should be in the message body. I am becoming increasingly concerning with the rampant misuse of subject lines in this way on the lists I moderate and own. I shall be commenting on this increasingly when I see people do this sort of thing. I do little moderation but I consider this to be important. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Debra Gardner Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:21 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Earlier version working Well, in frustration, I uninstalled the latest version of NVDA and installed one from 2015. Voila! Everything is working. I don't know why. No more unknowns and silences. Since it's an earlier version perhaps the finer tunings don't work as well, but it's nice to have it back!
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Re: NVDA Silent Install
Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) <steven.hicks@...>
Brilliant, thanks.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes Sent: 13 February 2018 22:51 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Silent Install Please read the User Guide... You have there the answer and the command syntax. Rui Fontes Às 20:19 de 13/02/2018, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via Groups.Io escreveu: Hi all, ******************************************************************************************************************** This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in relation to its contents. To do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland. NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and other accredited email services. For more information and to find out how you can switch, https://portal.nhs.net/help/joiningnhsmail
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Re: Earlier version working
hello debra.
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in this case, which version of firefox are you using? does nvda support it without problem? also, did you try firefox 64bit to see if nvda supports it without crash or not? i am waiting for your response.
On 2/14/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Please don't change subject lines and start new threads when talking about --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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Re: Earlier version working
Gene
Please don't change subject lines and start new
threads when talking about the same subject. You started an entirely
new thread and your subject line has little or no meaning to anyone who doesn't
remember what the other thread was about. In addition, if someone is
following the thread in the archives, if you change the subject line, you start
an entirely new thread and make it much harder for people to follow the
discussion. Also, if people read mail by conversation in their e-mail
program, they see the new subject line as a completely new
conversation.
A subject line is to tell what the message is
about. It is not to state something pertaining to the subject that should
be in the message body. the entire thread has been about something you are
having a problem with. The subject didn't change to a statement that you
got it working. the subject is still the same. That you got it
working is a statement about the subject that should be in the message body.
I am becoming increasingly concerning with the
rampant misuse of subject lines in this way on the lists I moderate and
own. I shall be commenting on this increasingly when I see people do this
sort of thing. I do little moderation but I consider this to be
important.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Debra Gardner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:21 PM
Subject: [nvda] Earlier version working
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Re: sapi5 eloquence
Josh Kennedy
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