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Re: Keyboard question

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
Yep that did it. Holding down function plus right and left do home and end and holding it with up and down do page up and down. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

Greg Wocher

On Feb 15, 2018, at 3:10 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:

There are things you can do when holding down the FN key on almost any keyboard. You might want to try using that with up down left and right arrows.

Take care

On Feb 15, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Greg Wocher <gwocher@gwocher.com> wrote:

Hello all,

I recently purchased a Logitech k780 keyboard. I bought this one so I could easily switch between my mac and my windows pc. One issue I am finding is that there is no home, end, page up or page down keys except what is on the number pad. Does anyone know how I can do things like page up and page down with NVDA?


Thanks,

Greg Wocher







Re: Phasing out of 7

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Just read the article it had to happen sooner or later. I am using windows 10 still with the desk top version of skype and flip between that and the universal version of it as well. I guess unless windows 7 users upgrade to 10 the old code might not work with 10 etc.


hence slowly stop working over time.


I wonder if the new one they are working on skype for web will be the replacement for users before 10 which can be found at https://login.live.com/login.srf?wa=wsignin1.0&rpsnv=13&ct=1518725827&rver=7.0.6730.0&wp=MBI_SSL&wreply=https%3A%2F%2Flw.skype.com%2Flogin%2Foauth%2Fproxy%3Fclient_id%3D578134%26redirect_uri%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fweb.skype.com%252F%26state%3D3f4b065f-9fc7-4814-4eba-dd964f51f4b2%26site_name%3Dlw.skype.com&lc=1033&id=293290&mkt=en-NZ&psi=skype&lw=1&cobrandid=90010&client_flight=hsu%2CReservedFlight33%2CReservedFlight67


If i remember right it will work through your browser. I had a quick play a couple of months back but have not been back in to have more of a play and.


I do have a mostly written tutorial for the app version but not posted yet or was it finished.


I think when i had a play with the web version it was pretty accessible minus some features which are still coming or may be already there now?


Gene nz





On 2/16/2018 3:15 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.


http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what


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Re: CodeFactory voices constantly malfunctioning

Andy
 

Yeah! This has happened to me also. I find that making sure that I fire up NVDA periodically with the Code Factory voices keeps this from happening.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Robinson" <jardatalearningcenter@jardata.biz>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:07 AM
Subject: [nvda] CodeFactory voices constantly malfunctioning


Hello!

Six or so months ago, I purchased the CodeFactory Synthesizers and installed
it on one machine. On a regular bases, when I load NVDA, I discover that
the system asks me to activate the product. Then I run the activation
program at least ten times; I did not use codefactory for three or four
months; when I opened it up again, the voices were gone and NVDA went back
to its original state; I tried to reactivate the program and the system
tells me that all of my counts have been used up; that is not possible
because I only have the product on one machine; when I try to deactivate
this one instance of the program key, I get the message that all three keys
are used and nothing else can be done; what is going on with this program
and how can I make it work again? Why must I keep activating this program?
I enjoy NVDA better with the CodeFactory voices; otherwise it sounds too
much like a machine and not that pleasant to listen to. I hope someone can
tell me what to do with this product.

James Robinson



Re: Keyboard question

Sarah k Alawami
 

There are things you can do when holding down the FN key on almost any keyboard. You might want to try using that with up down left and right arrows.

Take care

On Feb 15, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Greg Wocher <gwocher@gwocher.com> wrote:

Hello all,

I recently purchased a Logitech k780 keyboard. I bought this one so I could easily switch between my mac and my windows pc. One issue I am finding is that there is no home, end, page up or page down keys except what is on the number pad. Does anyone know how I can do things like page up and page down with NVDA?


Thanks,

Greg Wocher





Keyboard question

Greg Wocher
 

Hello all,

I recently purchased a Logitech k780 keyboard. I bought this one so I could easily switch between my mac and my windows pc. One issue I am finding is that there is no home, end, page up or page down keys except what is on the number pad. Does anyone know how I can do things like page up and page down with NVDA?


Thanks,

Greg Wocher


Re: Phasing out of 7

Sarah k Alawami
 

I use zoom for my business meetings. I need skype though for one  of my jobs as thats how I teach my students. I send and receive files, voice clips when needed, and chats as well as assignment links for my students as well, so zoom will not work in this case.. Plus their internet is not that good. 5 megabits down by about 1 up. We sometimes cannot hold a conversation that way lol!

Take care

On Feb 15, 2018, at 8:23 AM, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...> wrote:

I don't know anyone who uses it, but there is a client called Zoom. The site is zoom.us.

-----Original Message----- From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 4:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

Hi Zara,
As I said. TeamTalk is for realtime conferencing, not telephony, and
unfortunately I am unaware of any other programs that allow for direct
telephony like Skype does.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message----- From: zahra
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

which program should i use instead of skype for telephony?
i am using skype 7.36 now, but version 7 have many accessibility
issues and even the program sometimes closed without my will!
i did not have this problem using version 6 of skype
can someone off list help me to learn how to use teamtalk for telephony?
the advantage of teamtalk is not forcing update!
i can download any version that i want to use and keep it forever
without update and worried for update and compatibility with my
windows!

On 2/15/18, Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...> wrote:
I don’t blame you, now with facetime, google hangouts, etc, skype really has
died.

From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

Hi,
I’ll be abandoning Skype when 7 dies as well. I’ve had a mess with 8, and as
far as I’m concerned, it stinks.
It’s a shame though. While I also have a TeamTalk server, and while the
quality is indeed a lot better, TeamTalk is meant, A, for teams, and B, not
for telephony. To use TeamTalk as a substitute for Skype would be a pain,
since someone would first have to contact you by other means to ask you to
come on TT, something which obviously isn’t necessary with Skype.
Not only that, but perhaps the biggest issue is that Skype was my primary
telephone.
So yeah. Going Skypeless will indeed take a lot of getting used to.
I can’t ever see me going back to Skype. Crashes, accessibility shortfalls
and process hogging are only the primary issues. And there’s me thinking
Skype could never be any slower and broken than it already was in 7.
Cheers.
Damien.


From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

i agree, i only use team talk, as i have my own server, and the quality is
much better.
e-mail me off list if you wish to join my server.

From: Robert Kingett
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of
Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on
XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.




http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what





-- 
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org









Re: Phasing out of 7

Lino Morales
 

Well this why we have the cool awesome Zoom app for IOS, Android, and Windows.

 

Lino Morales

 

From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 10:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

 

Hi,

I’ll be abandoning Skype when 7 dies as well. I’ve had a mess with 8, and as far as I’m concerned, it stinks.

It’s a shame though. While I also have a TeamTalk server, and while the quality is indeed a lot better, TeamTalk is meant, A, for teams, and B, not for telephony. To use TeamTalk as a substitute for Skype would be a pain, since someone would first have to contact you by other means to ask you to come on TT, something which obviously isn’t necessary with Skype.

Not only that, but perhaps the biggest issue is that Skype was my primary telephone.

So yeah. Going Skypeless will indeed take a lot of getting used to.

I can’t ever see me going back to Skype. Crashes, accessibility shortfalls and process hogging are only the primary issues. And there’s me thinking Skype could never be any slower and broken than it already was in 7.

Cheers.
Damien.

 

Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:17 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

 

i agree, i only use team talk, as i have my own server, and the quality is much better.

e-mail me off list if you wish to join my server.

 

Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:15 AM

Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

 

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.

 

http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what

 


Re: Phasing out of 7

Lino Morales
 

Mike. Can you email me off list at:

Lino.jr@...

I would like to hang on your TT server. Thanks.

 

Lino Morales

 

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

 

i agree, i only use team talk, as i have my own server, and the quality is much better.

e-mail me off list if you wish to join my server.

 

Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:15 AM

Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

 

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.

 

http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what

 


CodeFactory voices constantly malfunctioning

James Robinson
 

Hello!

Six or so months ago, I purchased the CodeFactory Synthesizers and installed
it on one machine. On a regular bases, when I load NVDA, I discover that
the system asks me to activate the product. Then I run the activation
program at least ten times; I did not use codefactory for three or four
months; when I opened it up again, the voices were gone and NVDA went back
to its original state; I tried to reactivate the program and the system
tells me that all of my counts have been used up; that is not possible
because I only have the product on one machine; when I try to deactivate
this one instance of the program key, I get the message that all three keys
are used and nothing else can be done; what is going on with this program
and how can I make it work again? Why must I keep activating this program?
I enjoy NVDA better with the CodeFactory voices; otherwise it sounds too
much like a machine and not that pleasant to listen to. I hope someone can
tell me what to do with this product.

James Robinson


Re: Phasing out of 7

Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
 

I like using what is up on my iphone.
They have a pc version which I haven't tried yet.
check it out if it works well please share the news.




EMAIL:karim.lakhani@shaw.ca
$$$$
SKYPE: goldenace4
$$$$
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reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
can control is your character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-)

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

which program should i use instead of skype for telephony?
i am using skype 7.36 now, but version 7 have many accessibility issues and
even the program sometimes closed without my will!
i did not have this problem using version 6 of skype can someone off list
help me to learn how to use teamtalk for telephony?
the advantage of teamtalk is not forcing update!
i can download any version that i want to use and keep it forever without
update and worried for update and compatibility with my windows!

On 2/15/18, Michael Capelle <mcapelle@charter.net> wrote:
I don't blame you, now with facetime, google hangouts, etc, skype
really has died.

From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

Hi,
I'll be abandoning Skype when 7 dies as well. I've had a mess with 8,
and as far as I'm concerned, it stinks.
It's a shame though. While I also have a TeamTalk server, and while
the quality is indeed a lot better, TeamTalk is meant, A, for teams,
and B, not for telephony. To use TeamTalk as a substitute for Skype
would be a pain, since someone would first have to contact you by
other means to ask you to come on TT, something which obviously isn't
necessary with Skype.
Not only that, but perhaps the biggest issue is that Skype was my
primary telephone.
So yeah. Going Skypeless will indeed take a lot of getting used to.
I can't ever see me going back to Skype. Crashes, accessibility
shortfalls and process hogging are only the primary issues. And
there's me thinking Skype could never be any slower and broken than it
already was in 7.
Cheers.
Damien.


From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

i agree, i only use team talk, as i have my own server, and the
quality is much better.
e-mail me off list if you wish to join my server.

From: Robert Kingett
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in
favor of Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea
what you folks on XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team
talk anyway.




http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Phasing out of 7

Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
 

It's not great for sure but with a little of tabbig around it can be useable.
I think it's nice they have a web version but it's very time consuminbg tabbing around, maybe I haven't learnt all t he tricks but for now it's good for f un.
Nothing I'll not to do with out.
 
 
 
EMAIL:karim.lakhani@...
$$$$
SKYPE: goldenace4
$$$$
Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
can control is your character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-)
 
 
 



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

Hi,
I’ll be abandoning Skype when 7 dies as well. I’ve had a mess with 8, and as far as I’m concerned, it stinks.
It’s a shame though. While I also have a TeamTalk server, and while the quality is indeed a lot better, TeamTalk is meant, A, for teams, and B, not for telephony. To use TeamTalk as a substitute for Skype would be a pain, since someone would first have to contact you by other means to ask you to come on TT, something which obviously isn’t necessary with Skype.
Not only that, but perhaps the biggest issue is that Skype was my primary telephone.
So yeah. Going Skypeless will indeed take a lot of getting used to.
I can’t ever see me going back to Skype. Crashes, accessibility shortfalls and process hogging are only the primary issues. And there’s me thinking Skype could never be any slower and broken than it already was in 7.
Cheers.
Damien.
 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
 
i agree, i only use team talk, as i have my own server, and the quality is much better.
e-mail me off list if you wish to join my server.
 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:15 AM
Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
 

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.


http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what


Re: Phasing out of 7

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

In the case of Hangouts, your pessimism is unfounded. Hangouts works great on all platforms that I've used it on. Best, Erik

On February 15, 2018 11:48:58 AM "Damien Garwood" <damien@...> wrote:

Hi,
Not that I use any of those. Facetime is for Apple products only, while I always thought Google Hangouts was more akin to TeamTalk than Skype, I.E. a conferencing platform. Not to mention, the one time I was requested to join a Google Hangouts meeting it wasn’t very accessible. Of course that was a few years ago, it could easily have changed since then. But given mainstream software’s priorities, I.E. hogging our systems with unnecessary pretty pictures, I believe it could also have easily gone from bad to worse. Hell...Skype versions 1, and possibly 2, were the best as far as accessibility went. No scripts needed. Now look at it!
Maybe I should release 8 major versions encompassing several hundred builds of an audio game where only about 10% of them include new worlds while the rest are merely audio tweaks. That’s a fair representation of a boatload of software methinks. Welcome to mainstream frustrations...
To take another example, the genealogy database software I used previously was full of bugs and was very slow at searching, generating reports, importing and exporting etc. Then a new major version came out, and the only major thing that its change log could boast of in its update was colour tagging!
Anyways. Think I best go before I start on a full-on rant about things that I perhaps don’t, and could never, understand. Lol.
Cheers.
Damien.
 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
 
I don’t blame you, now with facetime, google hangouts, etc, skype really has died.
 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
 
Hi,
I’ll be abandoning Skype when 7 dies as well. I’ve had a mess with 8, and as far as I’m concerned, it stinks.
It’s a shame though. While I also have a TeamTalk server, and while the quality is indeed a lot better, TeamTalk is meant, A, for teams, and B, not for telephony. To use TeamTalk as a substitute for Skype would be a pain, since someone would first have to contact you by other means to ask you to come on TT, something which obviously isn’t necessary with Skype.
Not only that, but perhaps the biggest issue is that Skype was my primary telephone.
So yeah. Going Skypeless will indeed take a lot of getting used to.
I can’t ever see me going back to Skype. Crashes, accessibility shortfalls and process hogging are only the primary issues. And there’s me thinking Skype could never be any slower and broken than it already was in 7.
Cheers.
Damien.
 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
 
i agree, i only use team talk, as i have my own server, and the quality is much better.
e-mail me off list if you wish to join my server.
 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:15 AM
Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
 

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.


http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what


Re: Phasing out of 7

Damien Garwood
 

Hi,
Not that I use any of those. Facetime is for Apple products only, while I always thought Google Hangouts was more akin to TeamTalk than Skype, I.E. a conferencing platform. Not to mention, the one time I was requested to join a Google Hangouts meeting it wasn’t very accessible. Of course that was a few years ago, it could easily have changed since then. But given mainstream software’s priorities, I.E. hogging our systems with unnecessary pretty pictures, I believe it could also have easily gone from bad to worse. Hell...Skype versions 1, and possibly 2, were the best as far as accessibility went. No scripts needed. Now look at it!
Maybe I should release 8 major versions encompassing several hundred builds of an audio game where only about 10% of them include new worlds while the rest are merely audio tweaks. That’s a fair representation of a boatload of software methinks. Welcome to mainstream frustrations...
To take another example, the genealogy database software I used previously was full of bugs and was very slow at searching, generating reports, importing and exporting etc. Then a new major version came out, and the only major thing that its change log could boast of in its update was colour tagging!
Anyways. Think I best go before I start on a full-on rant about things that I perhaps don’t, and could never, understand. Lol.
Cheers.
Damien.
 

Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
 
I don’t blame you, now with facetime, google hangouts, etc, skype really has died.
 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
 
Hi,
I’ll be abandoning Skype when 7 dies as well. I’ve had a mess with 8, and as far as I’m concerned, it stinks.
It’s a shame though. While I also have a TeamTalk server, and while the quality is indeed a lot better, TeamTalk is meant, A, for teams, and B, not for telephony. To use TeamTalk as a substitute for Skype would be a pain, since someone would first have to contact you by other means to ask you to come on TT, something which obviously isn’t necessary with Skype.
Not only that, but perhaps the biggest issue is that Skype was my primary telephone.
So yeah. Going Skypeless will indeed take a lot of getting used to.
I can’t ever see me going back to Skype. Crashes, accessibility shortfalls and process hogging are only the primary issues. And there’s me thinking Skype could never be any slower and broken than it already was in 7.
Cheers.
Damien.
 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
 
i agree, i only use team talk, as i have my own server, and the quality is much better.
e-mail me off list if you wish to join my server.
 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:15 AM
Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
 

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.


http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what


OE Classic 28 ads even more accessibility

 

OE Classic is basically a cheaper, or free, if you don't want to pay to get the pro addition right away, OutLook express for modern versions of windows. The pro versions, from what I can tell, are just quick releases that the free folks will get anyway when the pro version hits the next level. They continue to improve their accessibility. The free version is on 27 now but when the pro version hits version 29, 28 will be free to download. A link to the news page is below followed by the change log in version 28. The developer told me they have been testing with NVDA, not JAWS. so, I am sure accessibility will improve even more.


https://www.oeclassic.com/news


And here is all the changes.


[2017-11-03] Option to import CSV file into existing or new address book folder
• [2017-11-03] Improved recognition of some data fields for CSV file import
• [2017-11-03] Import/Export window can be resized to fit more data
• [2017-11-03] Notification for Windows 2000/XP only about discontinuing contact form functionality, no changes for any newer versions of Windows
• [2017-11-06] Improved accessibility for Import/Export window
• [2017-11-07] Added multilingual support
• [2017-12-12] Message editor Check names now also validates emails inside groups
• [2017-12-14] Faster and more accurate email address validator
• [2017-12-14] Message editor Check names checks for duplicate recipients (in the same field)
• [2017-12-14] Message editor checks for duplicate attachments
• [2018-01-10] Added multilingual counting plural rules
• [2018-01-19] Option to set default message direction right-to-left
• [2018-01-21] Save As message saving now also offers HTML or Text formats
• [2018-01-27] Added 8 initial language files (Croatian, Dutch, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Polish, Spanish)
• [2018-01-27] Improved accessibility for Contact/Group Properties, Account Properties, Message Edit, Message Viewer, Column Editor, Find
• [2018-01-28] Find window improvements - Include subfolders checkbox, folder Browse button, closing window by ESC key
• [2018-02-03] Custom folder colors (right click menu over folders)
Bug fixes
• [2017-12-07] No longer jumps to the top of Address Book when items are deleted (Address Book and Main window)
• [2018-01-29] Incorrect help shortcuts in the installation script


Re: Phasing out of 7

Damien Garwood
 

Hi,
I always thought that was a business-based rather than personal use system.
Cheers.
Damien.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Beasley
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

I don't know anyone who uses it, but there is a client called Zoom. The site
is zoom.us.

-----Original Message-----
From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 4:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

Hi Zara,
As I said. TeamTalk is for realtime conferencing, not telephony, and
unfortunately I am unaware of any other programs that allow for direct
telephony like Skype does.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message-----
From: zahra
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

which program should i use instead of skype for telephony?
i am using skype 7.36 now, but version 7 have many accessibility
issues and even the program sometimes closed without my will!
i did not have this problem using version 6 of skype
can someone off list help me to learn how to use teamtalk for telephony?
the advantage of teamtalk is not forcing update!
i can download any version that i want to use and keep it forever
without update and worried for update and compatibility with my
windows!

On 2/15/18, Michael Capelle <mcapelle@charter.net> wrote:
I don’t blame you, now with facetime, google hangouts, etc, skype really has
died.

From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

Hi,
I’ll be abandoning Skype when 7 dies as well. I’ve had a mess with 8, and as
far as I’m concerned, it stinks.
It’s a shame though. While I also have a TeamTalk server, and while the
quality is indeed a lot better, TeamTalk is meant, A, for teams, and B, not
for telephony. To use TeamTalk as a substitute for Skype would be a pain,
since someone would first have to contact you by other means to ask you to
come on TT, something which obviously isn’t necessary with Skype.
Not only that, but perhaps the biggest issue is that Skype was my primary
telephone.
So yeah. Going Skypeless will indeed take a lot of getting used to.
I can’t ever see me going back to Skype. Crashes, accessibility shortfalls
and process hogging are only the primary issues. And there’s me thinking
Skype could never be any slower and broken than it already was in 7.
Cheers.
Damien.


From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

i agree, i only use team talk, as i have my own server, and the quality is
much better.
e-mail me off list if you wish to join my server.

From: Robert Kingett
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of
Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on
XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.




http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Phasing out of 7

Peter Beasley
 

I don't know anyone who uses it, but there is a client called Zoom. The site is zoom.us.

-----Original Message-----
From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 4:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

Hi Zara,
As I said. TeamTalk is for realtime conferencing, not telephony, and
unfortunately I am unaware of any other programs that allow for direct
telephony like Skype does.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message-----
From: zahra
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

which program should i use instead of skype for telephony?
i am using skype 7.36 now, but version 7 have many accessibility
issues and even the program sometimes closed without my will!
i did not have this problem using version 6 of skype
can someone off list help me to learn how to use teamtalk for telephony?
the advantage of teamtalk is not forcing update!
i can download any version that i want to use and keep it forever
without update and worried for update and compatibility with my
windows!

On 2/15/18, Michael Capelle <mcapelle@charter.net> wrote:
I don’t blame you, now with facetime, google hangouts, etc, skype really has
died.

From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

Hi,
I’ll be abandoning Skype when 7 dies as well. I’ve had a mess with 8, and as
far as I’m concerned, it stinks.
It’s a shame though. While I also have a TeamTalk server, and while the
quality is indeed a lot better, TeamTalk is meant, A, for teams, and B, not
for telephony. To use TeamTalk as a substitute for Skype would be a pain,
since someone would first have to contact you by other means to ask you to
come on TT, something which obviously isn’t necessary with Skype.
Not only that, but perhaps the biggest issue is that Skype was my primary
telephone.
So yeah. Going Skypeless will indeed take a lot of getting used to.
I can’t ever see me going back to Skype. Crashes, accessibility shortfalls
and process hogging are only the primary issues. And there’s me thinking
Skype could never be any slower and broken than it already was in 7.
Cheers.
Damien.


From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

i agree, i only use team talk, as i have my own server, and the quality is
much better.
e-mail me off list if you wish to join my server.

From: Robert Kingett
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of
Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on
XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.




http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Phasing out of 7

Damien Garwood
 

Hi Zara,
As I said. TeamTalk is for realtime conferencing, not telephony, and unfortunately I am unaware of any other programs that allow for direct telephony like Skype does.
Cheers.
Damien.

-----Original Message-----
From: zahra
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

which program should i use instead of skype for telephony?
i am using skype 7.36 now, but version 7 have many accessibility
issues and even the program sometimes closed without my will!
i did not have this problem using version 6 of skype
can someone off list help me to learn how to use teamtalk for telephony?
the advantage of teamtalk is not forcing update!
i can download any version that i want to use and keep it forever
without update and worried for update and compatibility with my
windows!

On 2/15/18, Michael Capelle <mcapelle@charter.net> wrote:
I don’t blame you, now with facetime, google hangouts, etc, skype really has
died.

From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

Hi,
I’ll be abandoning Skype when 7 dies as well. I’ve had a mess with 8, and as
far as I’m concerned, it stinks.
It’s a shame though. While I also have a TeamTalk server, and while the
quality is indeed a lot better, TeamTalk is meant, A, for teams, and B, not
for telephony. To use TeamTalk as a substitute for Skype would be a pain,
since someone would first have to contact you by other means to ask you to
come on TT, something which obviously isn’t necessary with Skype.
Not only that, but perhaps the biggest issue is that Skype was my primary
telephone.
So yeah. Going Skypeless will indeed take a lot of getting used to.
I can’t ever see me going back to Skype. Crashes, accessibility shortfalls
and process hogging are only the primary issues. And there’s me thinking
Skype could never be any slower and broken than it already was in 7.
Cheers.
Damien.


From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

i agree, i only use team talk, as i have my own server, and the quality is
much better.
e-mail me off list if you wish to join my server.

From: Robert Kingett
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of
Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on
XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.




http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Google appearing in Frame in Firefox

 

the best way is disabling javascript in about:config
you can use normal
google.com
without such problem in this case.
also
you can test
http://google.com/webhp?complete=0
i tried it last year and it worked perfectly.
in that time, i did not disable javascript.

On 2/15/18, Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
That’s really odd, i visted the link you posted and it seems fine here
nothing blocking it and works fine

I guess you could try a portable version to see if that’s the same issue


From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: 15 February 2018 13:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google appearing in Frame in Firefox

Chris,

The 2got it” button does not react. I do not have cookies blocked.

I see that there is a Google tool bar at the top of the screen which must be
coming from Google itself as there is no such toolbar in my version of
Firefox.

The display also has an indication that it is a frame but, again, Firefox
does nto have any reference to frames in the menus.
It’s a puzzle!


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google appearing in Frame in Firefox

It sounds like to me that cookie warning message that EU regulation dictates
that must be shown when ever you visit a new site
It usually says got it link to clear it in most instances
Unless you have blocked cookies for some reason it should clear

Thank god we leaving all that BS behind
😃



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Phasing out of 7

 

which program should i use instead of skype for telephony?
i am using skype 7.36 now, but version 7 have many accessibility
issues and even the program sometimes closed without my will!
i did not have this problem using version 6 of skype
can someone off list help me to learn how to use teamtalk for telephony?
the advantage of teamtalk is not forcing update!
i can download any version that i want to use and keep it forever
without update and worried for update and compatibility with my
windows!

On 2/15/18, Michael Capelle <mcapelle@charter.net> wrote:
I don’t blame you, now with facetime, google hangouts, etc, skype really has
died.

From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

Hi,
I’ll be abandoning Skype when 7 dies as well. I’ve had a mess with 8, and as
far as I’m concerned, it stinks.
It’s a shame though. While I also have a TeamTalk server, and while the
quality is indeed a lot better, TeamTalk is meant, A, for teams, and B, not
for telephony. To use TeamTalk as a substitute for Skype would be a pain,
since someone would first have to contact you by other means to ask you to
come on TT, something which obviously isn’t necessary with Skype.
Not only that, but perhaps the biggest issue is that Skype was my primary
telephone.
So yeah. Going Skypeless will indeed take a lot of getting used to.
I can’t ever see me going back to Skype. Crashes, accessibility shortfalls
and process hogging are only the primary issues. And there’s me thinking
Skype could never be any slower and broken than it already was in 7.
Cheers.
Damien.


From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

i agree, i only use team talk, as i have my own server, and the quality is
much better.
e-mail me off list if you wish to join my server.

From: Robert Kingett
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of
Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on
XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.




http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


nvda as windows 10 app

mattias
 

anny progress?