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Re: CodeFactory voices constantly malfunctioning

Sam Bushman
 

According the code factory FAQ - you need to be online - they system
confirms it's licensing over the internet at least once a month. If it
doesn't see the connection and confirm it deactivates.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 1:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CodeFactory voices constantly malfunctioning

Yeah! This has happened to me also. I find that making sure that I fire up
NVDA periodically with the Code Factory voices keeps this from happening.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Robinson" <jardatalearningcenter@jardata.biz>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:07 AM
Subject: [nvda] CodeFactory voices constantly malfunctioning


Hello!

Six or so months ago, I purchased the CodeFactory Synthesizers and
installed
it on one machine. On a regular bases, when I load NVDA, I discover that
the system asks me to activate the product. Then I run the activation
program at least ten times; I did not use codefactory for three or four
months; when I opened it up again, the voices were gone and NVDA went back
to its original state; I tried to reactivate the program and the system
tells me that all of my counts have been used up; that is not possible
because I only have the product on one machine; when I try to deactivate
this one instance of the program key, I get the message that all three
keys
are used and nothing else can be done; what is going on with this program
and how can I make it work again? Why must I keep activating this
program?
I enjoy NVDA better with the CodeFactory voices; otherwise it sounds too
much like a machine and not that pleasant to listen to. I hope someone
can
tell me what to do with this product.

James Robinson




Re: Phasing out of 7

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


It is the app version it is basically written just needs to be tidied up and uploaded


There is a desk top version already on my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net if i remember right it is under the nvda tutorials for other programs page.

It was version 7 of skype.


I was just looking at the skype web version on the net it seems fairly accessible but have not added any contacts etc to try it out.


I will either maybe write up some thing for it or maybe go through and record it with audio.

When i get a little spare time and can test it out with some one.


I usually let the group know when i upload stuff that covers nvda but not necessarily with other stuff like a review I done on the samsung ua 50 mu6100sxnz tv and going through the menus etcwith with voice guide which can be found on my podcast and products review page the person just needs to jump down to the review section to read or listen to it.


But that sort of stuff still goes under the recent updates section on the main page though.


Gene nz




On 2/16/2018 10:38 AM, Karim Lakhani wrote:
please when let us know hwhen the tutorial will be available.
Does it cover only the web version?
 
 
 
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 1:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

Hi


Just read the article it had to happen sooner or later. I am using windows 10 still with the desk top version of skype and flip between that and the universal version of it as well. I guess unless windows 7 users upgrade to 10 the old code might not work with 10 etc.


hence slowly stop working over time.


I wonder if the new one they are working on skype for web will be the replacement for users before 10 which can be found at https://login.live.com/login.srf?wa=wsignin1.0&rpsnv=13&ct=1518725827&rver=7.0.6730.0&wp=MBI_SSL&wreply=https%3A%2F%2Flw.skype.com%2Flogin%2Foauth%2Fproxy%3Fclient_id%3D578134%26redirect_uri%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fweb.skype.com%252F%26state%3D3f4b065f-9fc7-4814-4eba-dd964f51f4b2%26site_name%3Dlw.skype.com&lc=1033&id=293290&mkt=en-NZ&psi=skype&lw=1&cobrandid=90010&client_flight=hsu%2CReservedFlight33%2CReservedFlight67


If i remember right it will work through your browser. I had a quick play a couple of months back but have not been back in to have more of a play and.


I do have a mostly written tutorial for the app version but not posted yet or was it finished.


I think when i had a play with the web version it was pretty accessible minus some features which are still coming or may be already there now?


Gene nz





On 2/16/2018 3:15 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.


http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what


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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

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Re: Phasing out of 7

Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
 

please when let us know hwhen the tutorial will be available.
Does it cover only the web version?
 
 
 
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 1:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

Hi


Just read the article it had to happen sooner or later. I am using windows 10 still with the desk top version of skype and flip between that and the universal version of it as well. I guess unless windows 7 users upgrade to 10 the old code might not work with 10 etc.


hence slowly stop working over time.


I wonder if the new one they are working on skype for web will be the replacement for users before 10 which can be found at https://login.live.com/login.srf?wa=wsignin1.0&rpsnv=13&ct=1518725827&rver=7.0.6730.0&wp=MBI_SSL&wreply=https%3A%2F%2Flw.skype.com%2Flogin%2Foauth%2Fproxy%3Fclient_id%3D578134%26redirect_uri%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fweb.skype.com%252F%26state%3D3f4b065f-9fc7-4814-4eba-dd964f51f4b2%26site_name%3Dlw.skype.com&lc=1033&id=293290&mkt=en-NZ&psi=skype&lw=1&cobrandid=90010&client_flight=hsu%2CReservedFlight33%2CReservedFlight67


If i remember right it will work through your browser. I had a quick play a couple of months back but have not been back in to have more of a play and.


I do have a mostly written tutorial for the app version but not posted yet or was it finished.


I think when i had a play with the web version it was pretty accessible minus some features which are still coming or may be already there now?


Gene nz





On 2/16/2018 3:15 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.


http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what


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Re: OE Classic 28 ads even more accessibility

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Yes indeed does it have identities like OE does? Could be the answer for windows 10. The currently hacked Outlook express has started to be deleted by windows 10 updates.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Kingett" <kingettr@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 4:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] OE Classic 28 ads even more accessibility


OE Classic is basically a cheaper, or free, if you don't want to pay to
get the pro addition right away, OutLook express for modern versions of
windows. The pro versions, from what I can tell, are just quick releases
that the free folks will get anyway when the pro version hits the next
level. They continue to improve their accessibility. The free version is
on 27 now but when the pro version hits version 29, 28 will be free to
download. A link to the news page is below followed by the change log in
version 28. The developer told me they have been testing with NVDA, not
JAWS. so, I am sure accessibility will improve even more.


https://www.oeclassic.com/news


And here is all the changes.


[2017-11-03] Option to import CSV file into existing or new address book
folder
• [2017-11-03] Improved recognition of some data fields for CSV file import
• [2017-11-03] Import/Export window can be resized to fit more data
• [2017-11-03] Notification for Windows 2000/XP only about discontinuing
contact form functionality, no changes for any newer versions of Windows
• [2017-11-06] Improved accessibility for Import/Export window
• [2017-11-07] Added multilingual support
• [2017-12-12] Message editor Check names now also validates emails
inside groups
• [2017-12-14] Faster and more accurate email address validator
• [2017-12-14] Message editor Check names checks for duplicate
recipients (in the same field)
• [2017-12-14] Message editor checks for duplicate attachments
• [2018-01-10] Added multilingual counting plural rules
• [2018-01-19] Option to set default message direction right-to-left
• [2018-01-21] Save As message saving now also offers HTML or Text formats
• [2018-01-27] Added 8 initial language files (Croatian, Dutch, French,
German, Italian, Japanese, Polish, Spanish)
• [2018-01-27] Improved accessibility for Contact/Group Properties,
Account Properties, Message Edit, Message Viewer, Column Editor, Find
• [2018-01-28] Find window improvements - Include subfolders checkbox,
folder Browse button, closing window by ESC key
• [2018-02-03] Custom folder colors (right click menu over folders)
Bug fixes
• [2017-12-07] No longer jumps to the top of Address Book when items are
deleted (Address Book and Main window)
• [2018-01-29] Incorrect help shortcuts in the installation script


Re: Phasing out of 7

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On the Daily Fibre this morning on Mushroom fm, Jonathan Mozen also said Microsoft have been made aware of a big security issue in all versions of Skype and that yet another re write needs to be done to fix it.
Also he pointed that the new code even now has access issues and questioned what it was that the Skype team were doing that persistently left it with access issues compared with the old version and indeed other Microsoft products.
I suspect somebody in Microsoft is pulling their hair out. Not only do they have inaccessible software again but now a big security hole.
What else is there with as much spread as Skype has. Is it that they will forcibly top it or just that you wont be able to install old versions in 10 any more?
I suspect most of this not able to run stuff is probably design rather than need driven. I'm able to use Outlook Express on windows 7 because Microsoft could not be bothered to make an accessible email and news client with message rules.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Kingett" <kingettr@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7


The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in
favor of Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what
you folks on XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk
anyway.


http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what


Re: nvdaHelperRemote persists with latest snapshot

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Its odd as on windows 7, I see no difference at all. The new defer update has not even got to master snaps yet, so its nothing to do with that. It sounds more like something different in windows 10, but the big question of course is, what.
I guess one of those in the know might like to look back at the change log to see what was changed in nvda that might point to a smoking gun, but very little has changed, that is the issue.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Christo de Klerk" <christodeklerk@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvdaHelperRemote persists with latest snapshot


Yes, I agree absolutely with your thoughts.

In this case the problem started manifesting itself with all snapshots after 4 February. My computer is a 64 bit Lenovo running on a fully updated version of Windows 10. It makes no difference whether or not add-ons are enabled. I use Defender as my anti-virus program and nothing else unusual is running in the background. When I fall back to the snapshot of 4 February, all is fine again.

If this snapshot is the one which might be released, then I am seriously concerned, because I will then not be able to update on that computer.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2018/02/15 11:18 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Does the master branch latest snap work, as this is the one which will become the next release, not the next snaps.
I really think we have seen a number of unexplained strange behaviours in the last few weeks. Whether this is just coincidence or not I have no idea. Some people are using windows 7 others 8 and 10, so maybe they are not connected, but maybe there os some extra ingredient here we are all missing. Some update to a piece of code running in the background, such as anti virus or service that is messing about with more recent versions of nvda.#

I think these really do need a member of the dev team to try to find out the exact environments and extents of problems in a system smitten by one of these weird effects. Thus far the only one I've seen is the inability to restart sometimes after an update, traced to the core of windows being processing removal of locked folders and files and these usually go away if a delay in restarting is don or a reboot of nvda. These issues afflict some other software so have to be a windows thing. In the case of the people with problems these seem to be.
A dll missing which is part of a Microsoft runtime package
Intermittent refusal to speak menus and parts of dialogues
Lack of virtual buffers oon browsers.
Some of these are very reminiscent of non registered dll files of inability to locate said files by some part of the system. As these files mostly only show up as a problem when using a screenreader, it may well be there are problems in the wider community, which is going undetected, perhaps due to a combination of windows updates or updates to other software in the background. Of course it could b that the specifics of calling code are not entirely correct in certain circumstances making the nvda program have issues.

I really do think that somebody needs to find a way to raise all these things as issues sooner rather than later as you say, in case there is a wider issue. If developers can simulate the environment in use that causes these problems, then fixing them is not so hard.
Just my penneth on it.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Christo de Klerk" <christodeklerk@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvdaHelperRemote persists with latest snapshot


Hello especially to the NVDA developers


A few days ago (a few snapshots ago) I wrote that when I updated NVDA to the new snapshot, I received an error message with the following label:


nvdaHelperRemote (outprocMgrThreadFunc)

The text of the error message is:


Error registering focus winEvent hook

Then there is an Ok button. When I Ok the dialog, NVDA works, except that there is no browse mode buffer which makes web browsing impossible.


This problem persists with the very latest snapshot which I have just installed, so I had to fall back again to the last working snapshot which is from about 4 February. This happens only on my 64 bit machine.


The result of this is that I have not been able to use the last number of snapshots and I have a real concern that this problem may manifest itself once 2018.1 gets released which would mean that I will not be able to use that version on my 64 bit machine.


Does anyone have any idea what is happening here?


Kind regards


Christo







Re: nvda as windows 10 app

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I thought it was already there should you be foolhardy enough to want it.
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Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvda as windows 10 app


anny progress?



Re: Earlier version working

Debra Gardner
 

Well, nothing I do since the windows update seems to work. Version 17.04 of NVDA doesn't work. Windows updated itsle in the middle of the night and evidently ran into a snag because NVDA started saying pause pause pause pause pause and I couldn't get out of it and had to turn it off and reboot manually. Very strange.

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Earlier version working

It used to be the second Tuesday in the month here but more recently they are arriving on any old day even though its still set for Tuesday.
I seriously am suggesting that a feature in nvda to alert one of this condition would be most appreciated.
Brian

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From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Earlier version working


Brian, I do know that wednesdays are at least for me in new zealand the days updates happen.

So I usually get up at 6 am, turn on all the systems I can, and remote into all the systems that are active, and update them all with all the updates, by 7-7.30 updates come from ms and I update before I use the system.




On 15/02/2018 5:14 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Windows did an update today, at least windows 7 did and itt was very insistant, every time I told it to defer it it came back so I had to close umpteen windows down after saving contents so it could restart.
One annoying thing about the restart of windows is that the window opened that has the countdown is not opened in the forground, so very often I've had the thing shut down while I was working on a document meaning I had to recover it from a list afterwarrds.

Its a pity that nvda could not spot update windows and alert one to their presence.
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Earlier version working


I spoke too soon! I was enjoying having NVDA back and then windows did an update and things are back to the way they were before. (frown)


From: Debra Gardner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Earlier version working


Well, in frustration, I uninstalled the latest version of NVDA and installed one from 2015. Voila! Everything is working. I don't know why. No more unknowns and silences. Since it's an earlier version perhaps the finer tunings don't work as well, but it's nice to have it back!







Re: Phasing out of 7

Sarah k Alawami
 

I hate web skype. I had a play with it November of last year and it was horrible with chrome, chromevox and safari and voiceover. Did not test it with nvda as of yet. But yeah it is over all a horrible experience even with both accounts I have.

On Feb 15, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi


Just read the article it had to happen sooner or later. I am using windows 10 still with the desk top version of skype and flip between that and the universal version of it as well. I guess unless windows 7 users upgrade to 10 the old code might not work with 10 etc.


hence slowly stop working over time.


I wonder if the new one they are working on skype for web will be the replacement for users before 10 which can be found at https://login.live.com/login.srf?wa=wsignin1.0&rpsnv=13&ct=1518725827&rver=7.0.6730.0&wp=MBI_SSL&wreply=https%3A%2F%2Flw.skype.com%2Flogin%2Foauth%2Fproxy%3Fclient_id%3D578134%26redirect_uri%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fweb.skype.com%252F%26state%3D3f4b065f-9fc7-4814-4eba-dd964f51f4b2%26site_name%3Dlw.skype.com&lc=1033&id=293290&mkt=en-NZ&psi=skype&lw=1&cobrandid=90010&client_flight=hsu%2CReservedFlight33%2CReservedFlight67


If i remember right it will work through your browser. I had a quick play a couple of months back but have not been back in to have more of a play and.


I do have a mostly written tutorial for the app version but not posted yet or was it finished.


I think when i had a play with the web version it was pretty accessible minus some features which are still coming or may be already there now?


Gene nz





On 2/16/2018 3:15 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.


http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what


--
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Re: Debug JavaScript for Developer

Oleksandr Gryshchenko
 

Hello friends!

Antony Stone wrote:
> Er, what is the question / problem / issue?

Antony, I'm sorry that I didn't explain the essence of the question.

I need to debug the JavaScript code of some websites, add breackpoint and inspect a variables or objects.
I've tried embedded Google Developer Tools in Chrome, Firefox and Internet Explorer integrated ones.
But all these tools are not accessible, or poorly  (little) accessible with all screen readers.
I'm looking for a solution to this problem and ask for help from more experienced members of this group.


特種兵 wrote:
> I use alert debug my javascript
> call this file in page when you need

Thank you, 特種兵.
This is an interesting and very simple solution and I will use it.

Good luck to all!


Re: Keyboard question

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
Yep that did it. Holding down function plus right and left do home and end and holding it with up and down do page up and down. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

Greg Wocher

On Feb 15, 2018, at 3:10 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:

There are things you can do when holding down the FN key on almost any keyboard. You might want to try using that with up down left and right arrows.

Take care

On Feb 15, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Greg Wocher <gwocher@gwocher.com> wrote:

Hello all,

I recently purchased a Logitech k780 keyboard. I bought this one so I could easily switch between my mac and my windows pc. One issue I am finding is that there is no home, end, page up or page down keys except what is on the number pad. Does anyone know how I can do things like page up and page down with NVDA?


Thanks,

Greg Wocher







Re: Phasing out of 7

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Just read the article it had to happen sooner or later. I am using windows 10 still with the desk top version of skype and flip between that and the universal version of it as well. I guess unless windows 7 users upgrade to 10 the old code might not work with 10 etc.


hence slowly stop working over time.


I wonder if the new one they are working on skype for web will be the replacement for users before 10 which can be found at https://login.live.com/login.srf?wa=wsignin1.0&rpsnv=13&ct=1518725827&rver=7.0.6730.0&wp=MBI_SSL&wreply=https%3A%2F%2Flw.skype.com%2Flogin%2Foauth%2Fproxy%3Fclient_id%3D578134%26redirect_uri%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fweb.skype.com%252F%26state%3D3f4b065f-9fc7-4814-4eba-dd964f51f4b2%26site_name%3Dlw.skype.com&lc=1033&id=293290&mkt=en-NZ&psi=skype&lw=1&cobrandid=90010&client_flight=hsu%2CReservedFlight33%2CReservedFlight67


If i remember right it will work through your browser. I had a quick play a couple of months back but have not been back in to have more of a play and.


I do have a mostly written tutorial for the app version but not posted yet or was it finished.


I think when i had a play with the web version it was pretty accessible minus some features which are still coming or may be already there now?


Gene nz





On 2/16/2018 3:15 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.


http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what


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Re: CodeFactory voices constantly malfunctioning

Andy
 

Yeah! This has happened to me also. I find that making sure that I fire up NVDA periodically with the Code Factory voices keeps this from happening.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Robinson" <jardatalearningcenter@jardata.biz>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:07 AM
Subject: [nvda] CodeFactory voices constantly malfunctioning


Hello!

Six or so months ago, I purchased the CodeFactory Synthesizers and installed
it on one machine. On a regular bases, when I load NVDA, I discover that
the system asks me to activate the product. Then I run the activation
program at least ten times; I did not use codefactory for three or four
months; when I opened it up again, the voices were gone and NVDA went back
to its original state; I tried to reactivate the program and the system
tells me that all of my counts have been used up; that is not possible
because I only have the product on one machine; when I try to deactivate
this one instance of the program key, I get the message that all three keys
are used and nothing else can be done; what is going on with this program
and how can I make it work again? Why must I keep activating this program?
I enjoy NVDA better with the CodeFactory voices; otherwise it sounds too
much like a machine and not that pleasant to listen to. I hope someone can
tell me what to do with this product.

James Robinson



Re: Keyboard question

Sarah k Alawami
 

There are things you can do when holding down the FN key on almost any keyboard. You might want to try using that with up down left and right arrows.

Take care

On Feb 15, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Greg Wocher <gwocher@gwocher.com> wrote:

Hello all,

I recently purchased a Logitech k780 keyboard. I bought this one so I could easily switch between my mac and my windows pc. One issue I am finding is that there is no home, end, page up or page down keys except what is on the number pad. Does anyone know how I can do things like page up and page down with NVDA?


Thanks,

Greg Wocher





Keyboard question

Greg Wocher
 

Hello all,

I recently purchased a Logitech k780 keyboard. I bought this one so I could easily switch between my mac and my windows pc. One issue I am finding is that there is no home, end, page up or page down keys except what is on the number pad. Does anyone know how I can do things like page up and page down with NVDA?


Thanks,

Greg Wocher


Re: Phasing out of 7

Sarah k Alawami
 

I use zoom for my business meetings. I need skype though for one  of my jobs as thats how I teach my students. I send and receive files, voice clips when needed, and chats as well as assignment links for my students as well, so zoom will not work in this case.. Plus their internet is not that good. 5 megabits down by about 1 up. We sometimes cannot hold a conversation that way lol!

Take care

On Feb 15, 2018, at 8:23 AM, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...> wrote:

I don't know anyone who uses it, but there is a client called Zoom. The site is zoom.us.

-----Original Message----- From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 4:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

Hi Zara,
As I said. TeamTalk is for realtime conferencing, not telephony, and
unfortunately I am unaware of any other programs that allow for direct
telephony like Skype does.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message----- From: zahra
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

which program should i use instead of skype for telephony?
i am using skype 7.36 now, but version 7 have many accessibility
issues and even the program sometimes closed without my will!
i did not have this problem using version 6 of skype
can someone off list help me to learn how to use teamtalk for telephony?
the advantage of teamtalk is not forcing update!
i can download any version that i want to use and keep it forever
without update and worried for update and compatibility with my
windows!

On 2/15/18, Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...> wrote:
I don’t blame you, now with facetime, google hangouts, etc, skype really has
died.

From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

Hi,
I’ll be abandoning Skype when 7 dies as well. I’ve had a mess with 8, and as
far as I’m concerned, it stinks.
It’s a shame though. While I also have a TeamTalk server, and while the
quality is indeed a lot better, TeamTalk is meant, A, for teams, and B, not
for telephony. To use TeamTalk as a substitute for Skype would be a pain,
since someone would first have to contact you by other means to ask you to
come on TT, something which obviously isn’t necessary with Skype.
Not only that, but perhaps the biggest issue is that Skype was my primary
telephone.
So yeah. Going Skypeless will indeed take a lot of getting used to.
I can’t ever see me going back to Skype. Crashes, accessibility shortfalls
and process hogging are only the primary issues. And there’s me thinking
Skype could never be any slower and broken than it already was in 7.
Cheers.
Damien.


From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

i agree, i only use team talk, as i have my own server, and the quality is
much better.
e-mail me off list if you wish to join my server.

From: Robert Kingett
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of
Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on
XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.




http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what





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Re: Phasing out of 7

Lino Morales
 

Well this why we have the cool awesome Zoom app for IOS, Android, and Windows.

 

Lino Morales

 

From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 10:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

 

Hi,

I’ll be abandoning Skype when 7 dies as well. I’ve had a mess with 8, and as far as I’m concerned, it stinks.

It’s a shame though. While I also have a TeamTalk server, and while the quality is indeed a lot better, TeamTalk is meant, A, for teams, and B, not for telephony. To use TeamTalk as a substitute for Skype would be a pain, since someone would first have to contact you by other means to ask you to come on TT, something which obviously isn’t necessary with Skype.

Not only that, but perhaps the biggest issue is that Skype was my primary telephone.

So yeah. Going Skypeless will indeed take a lot of getting used to.

I can’t ever see me going back to Skype. Crashes, accessibility shortfalls and process hogging are only the primary issues. And there’s me thinking Skype could never be any slower and broken than it already was in 7.

Cheers.
Damien.

 

Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:17 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

 

i agree, i only use team talk, as i have my own server, and the quality is much better.

e-mail me off list if you wish to join my server.

 

Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:15 AM

Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

 

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.

 

http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what

 


Re: Phasing out of 7

Lino Morales
 

Mike. Can you email me off list at:

Lino.jr@...

I would like to hang on your TT server. Thanks.

 

Lino Morales

 

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

 

i agree, i only use team talk, as i have my own server, and the quality is much better.

e-mail me off list if you wish to join my server.

 

Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:15 AM

Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

 

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you folks on XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team talk anyway.

 

http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what

 


CodeFactory voices constantly malfunctioning

James Robinson
 

Hello!

Six or so months ago, I purchased the CodeFactory Synthesizers and installed
it on one machine. On a regular bases, when I load NVDA, I discover that
the system asks me to activate the product. Then I run the activation
program at least ten times; I did not use codefactory for three or four
months; when I opened it up again, the voices were gone and NVDA went back
to its original state; I tried to reactivate the program and the system
tells me that all of my counts have been used up; that is not possible
because I only have the product on one machine; when I try to deactivate
this one instance of the program key, I get the message that all three keys
are used and nothing else can be done; what is going on with this program
and how can I make it work again? Why must I keep activating this program?
I enjoy NVDA better with the CodeFactory voices; otherwise it sounds too
much like a machine and not that pleasant to listen to. I hope someone can
tell me what to do with this product.

James Robinson


Re: Phasing out of 7

Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
 

I like using what is up on my iphone.
They have a pc version which I haven't tried yet.
check it out if it works well please share the news.




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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

which program should i use instead of skype for telephony?
i am using skype 7.36 now, but version 7 have many accessibility issues and
even the program sometimes closed without my will!
i did not have this problem using version 6 of skype can someone off list
help me to learn how to use teamtalk for telephony?
the advantage of teamtalk is not forcing update!
i can download any version that i want to use and keep it forever without
update and worried for update and compatibility with my windows!

On 2/15/18, Michael Capelle <mcapelle@charter.net> wrote:
I don't blame you, now with facetime, google hangouts, etc, skype
really has died.

From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

Hi,
I'll be abandoning Skype when 7 dies as well. I've had a mess with 8,
and as far as I'm concerned, it stinks.
It's a shame though. While I also have a TeamTalk server, and while
the quality is indeed a lot better, TeamTalk is meant, A, for teams,
and B, not for telephony. To use TeamTalk as a substitute for Skype
would be a pain, since someone would first have to contact you by
other means to ask you to come on TT, something which obviously isn't
necessary with Skype.
Not only that, but perhaps the biggest issue is that Skype was my
primary telephone.
So yeah. Going Skypeless will indeed take a lot of getting used to.
I can't ever see me going back to Skype. Crashes, accessibility
shortfalls and process hogging are only the primary issues. And
there's me thinking Skype could never be any slower and broken than it
already was in 7.
Cheers.
Damien.


From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

i agree, i only use team talk, as i have my own server, and the
quality is much better.
e-mail me off list if you wish to join my server.

From: Robert Kingett
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7

The below page from Doug lee explains the phasing out of Skype 7 in
favor of Skype 8 or the Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea
what you folks on XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in favor of team
talk anyway.




http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm#what



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org