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Re: my NVDA log
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7348#issuecomment-366195097
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I was just looking for something else today, and found this issue. Is this the same as yours? Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "abdul muhamin" <abdulmuhamin600@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] my NVDA log So. What should be done now? Should I have to downgrade office to 2013? Regards, Chief content officer at BlindHelp.net From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:04 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] my NVDA log The odd thing about this core frozen in stack issue is that this looks very similar to an error way back in xp when uia locked up nvda in comments or edit fields in certain of office. In the end nvda had to abandon the buggy uia for these programs. I do hope its not deja vue all over again. Hopefully not! Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. This message sent from a Windows XP machine! ----- Original Message ----- From: Adriani Botez To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] my NVDA log Hello, What kind of elements are in your sheet? Are there comments, formfields, macros etc? Or is the sheet empty? Best Adriani Von meinem iPhone gesendet Am 17.02.2018 um 14:41 schrieb abdul muhamin <abdulmuhamin600@gmail.com>: Hi all. Here is my NVDA log, NVDA crashed again and again while using excel2016 Help me on this. INFO - __main__ (18:27:43.772): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (18:27:44.154): Config dir: C:\Users\abdul\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (18:27:44.154): Loading config: C:\Users\abdul\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini INFO - core.main (18:27:44.214): NVDA version 2017.4 INFO - core.main (18:27:44.214): Using Windows version 10.0.16299 workstation INFO - core.main (18:27:44.214): Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (18:27:44.214): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:27:44.578): Loaded synthDriver eloquence INFO - core.main (18:27:44.579): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:27:44.581): Braille input initialized INFO - braille.initialize (18:27:44.582): Using liblouis version 3.3.0 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:27:44.582): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. WARNING - core.main (18:27:44.618): Java Access Bridge not available INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (18:27:44.622): UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3 INFO - core.main (18:29:10.927): NVDA initialized INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (18:30:58.888): Loading config: C:\Users\abdul\AppData\Roaming\nvda\profiles\firefox.ini INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (18:31:21.326): Loading config: C:\Users\abdul\AppData\Roaming\nvda\profiles\excel.ini WARNING - watchdog._watcher (18:31:43.900): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 203, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 473, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in isUIAWindow File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper WARNING - watchdog._watcher (18:31:58.911): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 203, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 473, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in isUIAWindow File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper WARNING - watchdog._watcher (18:32:13.963): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 203, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 473, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in isUIAWindow File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper WARNING - watchdog._watcher (18:32:29.013): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 203, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 473, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in isUIAWindow File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper WARNING - watchdog._watcher (18:32:44.022): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 203, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 473, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in isUIAWindow File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper WARNING - watchdog._watcher (18:32:59.029): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 203, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 473, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in isUIAWindow File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper WARNING - watchdog._watcher (18:33:14.033): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 203, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 473, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in isUIAWindow File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper WARNING - watchdog._watcher (18:33:29.086): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 203, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 473, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in isUIAWindow File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (18:33:29.391): error executing event: gainFocus on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_IAccessibleExcel7WindowWindowNVDAObject object at 0x07072EB0> with extra args of {} Traceback (most recent call last): File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "C:\Users\abdul\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs\__init__.py", line 203, in event_gainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyo", line 660, in event_gainFocus File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyo", line 627, in _getSelection AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'Selection' Thanks Regards, Chief content officer at BlindHelp.net
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Re: Master snapshot is only 540k
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
My answer nowadays is to use the next snap, and use master as my installed copy. As long as you have a portable copy of the release version you can always revert back.
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That way the updates arrive automatically via the snap internal downloader for both versions as Next now no longer uses the browser to download new versions. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:32 AM Subject: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k Hi guys
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Re: Master snapshot is only 540k
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I just downloaded it here using firefox 52 and its over 20 meg in size.
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Did you perhaps get the old, this file is not one which is regualrly downloaded error and then it aborts? There is section in firefox to turn this warning off. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:32 AM Subject: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k Hi guys
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Re: Phasing out of 7
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
What you need is a cheap stereo mixer then.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7 Yeah I might have to do that. For my class though, I have to send links from websites and text from my computer to a student so this in fact will not work for my job, at least i don't think so. They are not aloud to hear my screen reader as I type and I'm not waring two pairs of headphones. On Feb 17, 2018, at 7:43 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Issue installing latest Windows 10 update
Peter Chin
I think what you need is the W-E Emergency Removal Utility. If no one else
sends it to you, I could put it in my Dropbox and send you the download
link.
From: ely.r@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10
update Repeatedly, I have tried doing the most recent Windows 10 update. Get to the step where the installer asks me to uninstall this program as it cannot. The program at fault is, Window eyes 9.1. It is not listed as an installed program in Programs and Features, “add or remove”. I have searched the entire computer for Window Eyes and GW Micro remains and find nothing. Is it possible that the installer is finding a remaining entry in the registry? Any suggestions would be much appreciated, Thanks, Rick
Dr. Rick Ely TVI, Vision Consultant 451 Rocky Hill Road Florence, MA 01062 &413() 727-3038
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Master snapshot is only 540k
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi guys
is the servers playing up? For the last couple of days i have been trying to download a master snapshot and each time it comes down it is only about 540k. Is the server playing up? for when i go to click on it up comes a security smart screen I think it is the windows one.
I am also wondering if things have changed like it is a stub then it gets the main file? I am guessing not.
I usually like once a week to see what might of gone into it each week.
Has any one else had the same problems?
This was doing it from inside of the master snapshot under the help section.
I have also tried it from the main page and still got the same results.
This was again on feb 18th and also tried on the 17th
Gene nz
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers.
To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert exam.
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Re: usable torrent client recommendations?
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Hey guys.
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Unless I missed something, noone was wasting time by condemning torrents in general within this thread. I think Brian was merely saying he wouldn't put a client on his main computer. I don't really think it's that justified, but that's fine. I no longer have a secondary computer, in any case. Thanks for the suggestion of Qbittorent. I ended up doing what John suggested, and it got rid of the uTorrent advertisements. I'm now quite happy, although to my surprise the program still crashes if I leave it unattended for hours. Oh well. At least it looks a lot cleaner.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron Sent: February 17, 2018 8:48 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] usable torrent client recommendations? Not all torrenting is bad, and yes q bit is great. On 2/17/18, erik burggraaf <erik@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote: Or legal live recordings of music artists. -- Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762
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Re: usable torrent client recommendations?
John Isige
I didn't particularly like it. You can't get to the downloading torrents, as far as I can tell. In UTorrent or however you spell it, once you get rid of the ads, you can tab to the list. NVDA doesn't read it by default, i.e. if you arrow through it, but you can use screen review or object, I forget which right at the moment, to see what you're dealing with.
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Also, just for fun I deleted a torrent after it downloaded. That made it throw fifty million notifications about an I/O error, which didn't even cease after I exited the program. I had to uninstall it to make them stop. That's just sloppy. If the file was in use, as it clearly should have been since the program kept trying to access it, it shouldn't have allowed it to be deleted. That's just me though. I mean it's not horrible or anything, and in some ways it was a bit more accessible. I just don't really see a reason to switch. I should add I deleted the downloaded folder from Windows Explorer, not QBittorrent itself. But again, I shouldn't have been allowed to do that, since QBittorrent was clearly trying to access it on a regular basis after the deletion occurred, it threw a notification every few seconds.
On 2/17/2018 19:48, Lenron wrote:
Not all torrenting is bad, and yes q bit is great.
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Re: usable torrent client recommendations?
Lenron
Not all torrenting is bad, and yes q bit is great.
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On 2/17/18, erik burggraaf <erik@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote:
Or legal live recordings of music artists. --
Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762
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Re: usable torrent client recommendations?
erik burggraaf <erik@...>
Or legal live recordings of music artists.
On February 17, 2018 10:41:21 AM "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:
use qBittorrent. its quite accessible and you can just grab it from ninite.com
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Re: my NVDA log
abdul muhamin
So. What should be done now? Should I have to downgrade office to 2013?
Regards, Chief content officer at BlindHelp.net
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:04 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] my NVDA log
The odd thing about this core frozen in stack issue is that this looks very similar to an error way back in xp when uia locked up nvda in comments or edit fields in certain of office. In the end nvda had to abandon the buggy uia for these programs. I do hope its not deja vue all over again. Hopefully not! Brian
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Latest WeatherPlus
Andrea Sherry
Keep getting an error that some id is not set. This is the id I have been using with this program from the beginning.
Where can I check that I have correct zipcodes for Weatherplus? Andrea -- Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad
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Re: my NVDA log
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
The odd thing about this core frozen in stack issue
is that this looks very similar to an error way back in xp when uia locked up
nvda in comments or edit fields in certain of office. In the end nvda had to
abandon the buggy uia for these programs.
I do hope its not deja vue all over
again.
Hopefully not!
Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. This message sent from a Windows XP machine!
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Re: my NVDA log
abdul muhamin
Hi. This is a simple sheet. I’ve just filled 3 or 4 cells. And NVDA got stucked, will give you more details too. If you need
Regards, Chief content officer at BlindHelp.net
From: Adriani Botez
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 6:56 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] my NVDA log
Hello,
What kind of elements are in your sheet? Are there comments, formfields, macros etc? Or is the sheet empty?
Best Adriani
Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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Re: Phasing out of 7
Rca android tablet, where from.
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On 18/02/2018 4:43 a.m., Josh Kennedy wrote:
if you want to use skype, just use it on an iPhone or android device. its very very accessible on iPhone and androids, and you can get a good RCA android tablet with keyboard for $60 or so and put skype onto it.
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Re: Phasing out of 7
Skype for me is only if I call someone or read a chat, I rarely ever stay active for more than a few seconds.
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On 17/02/2018 1:54 a.m., Robert Kingett wrote:
I put up with skype only because so many other people use it. Unless someone wants to call me, I use skype on Miranda NG, which is only the text chatting portion. If someone desperately wants to talk to me in real time, I have Zello for that. If I want to host a writing session or something, I use team talk. I am probably the only one who does not use all these aps on my Iphone. That's why I have not gotten a whatsapp account yet. Although, if they ever update the whatsapp add on for Miranda NG I will sign up. Call me a rebel, I guess, but why should I IM on a phone when I have a desktop and laptop?
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Re: nvda as windows 10 app
Well for students and some enterprise businesses I think its to stop people unknowingly load a virus on your system.
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And if nothing can install itself hopefully no one can get in. An admin probably could but even so. For standard users that control things that hopefully will not be a problem.
On 16/02/2018 11:08 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I mean that the environment of universal apps is very restrictive on what any program can do when its being used. IE add ons in nvda would only be usable if that add on was also approved for the store.
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Re: skype phase out
Hmph, well I really hope they do, they were doing so good with their userbase.
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When I started with win10 we had music, and I used it could have used it a lot more. I spent a lot of cash on it. Then music went away. They got the apps in accounts now so at least things can be done without their stupid microsoft account junk. They have local account questions I wander if that happens only if you have a password or not. From then on things have changed and changed to a point who knows. With skype going away I guess we have to learn the app but to be honest who knows.
On 16/02/2018 11:04 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
They know as I said earlier, perhaps they no longer care.
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Re: Phasing out of 7
Well I think you have to forget xp, its crap because microsoft says it is, its not secure, its a useless crappy os now.
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Now the interface, I miss the classic interface, I want it back.
On 16/02/2018 10:06 p.m., zahra wrote:
i realy wish that microsoft keep skype 7 for us.
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Re: Thanks Bob!
Gene
Another brief comment or two. In future if
something like this comes up, I'll let the list know if the problem has been
resolved when it is. I didn't anticipate this discussion. I thought
that if nothing happened, the topic would stop. But given the strong
feelings some list members have, I should have anticipated and stopped the
discussion by telling the list that the problem was resolved. I did notify
the owner off list but that didn't stop this situation from arising.
Also, I'm sorry if some people think I've been to
critical in my response but I feel strongly about this. The contact the
owner link is there for a reason. I hope no one was offended by the tone
of my last message but if a situation like this arises in future, please don't
pour oil on the fire by discussing the matter on list. Write to the
owner's contact address.
I shall now lock the topic.
Gene
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One final comment and then I shall lock the
topic. Doesn't anyone have any common sense? If Maheen is unstable
and disruptive, then why is anyone discussing him on the list? Does it
really take a masters degree in psychology to realize that this discussion
should have been directed to the contact the owner's link which is given in
every e-mail? This is definitely not the way to handle such a
situation. If such a situation arises in future, please discuss it off
list. this is strictly an administrative matter and is completely off
topic for this list and, if Maheen were still a member of the list, what do you
think you would be accomplishing by having him see all these very negative
comments about him on the list. You are just asking for trouble if your
comments are true.
Again, doesn't anyone have any common sense?
Gene
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The issue no longer exists. Maheen joined the
list to promote his discussion group. I kept him moderated and, when he
sent a message promoting it, I wrote him privately explaining that the message
isn't remotely on topic and won't be allowed. I don't know what Maheen is
doing now. I haven't followed him to any extent in the past. I know
a very little about him which is why I kept him moderated to see if he played
buy the list rules. He didn't. But whatever you think of him, he
didn't make a fuss, he didn't try to persuade me to approve the message, he did
nothing but unsubscribe.
The matter is closed. I strongly don't want
any more comments on this issue. I'll lock the thread if it
continues.
Gene
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his past misdeeds. I know he likes to claim that his medications are now adjusted properly and that he's now a Christian and all... Has he promised that no more death threats will be forthcoming, that he will not try to disrupt the list in any way like sending hundreds of nonsensical messages within one hour, etc? Is the list owner Nimer, willing to take this risk? And most important of all, who is Bob? On 2/17/18, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle@...> wrote: > hello bob is not the owner of this list. > gene is. > thanks. > > > From: Maheen > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 3:24 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: [nvda] Thanks Bob! > > I am hoping to learn a little bit about NVDA and it’s features. Thanks for > allowing me to join! > Maheen >
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