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Please ignore this message, just testing to make sure my messages are coming through as the last one I sent never showed up in my inbox .
Rayn Darren
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Re: Firefox ESR
John Isige
Quite a lot really. For example, most machines that do heavy audio or video work are generally recommended to be dedicated machines that don't connect to a network. You could set up a gaming machine like that, put whatever games on it and then run them. Basically you either upgrade everything by downloading stuff and putting it on a drive that you connect to the machine, or only allow the machine to be connected to the internet at specific times, e.g. to download updates.
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I could do quite a lot on my current machine with no internet, read, listen to music, learn an instrument, program, you get the idea. I'll grant you, chunks of the stuff that allow me to do that stuff without internet came from the internet to begin with. But it's not like you need to be connected 24/7 in order to do meaningful things with a machine.
On 2/21/2018 18:51, Antony Stone wrote:
What software does not run in such an environment?
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Re: Firefox ESR
Gene
This isn't just something Mozilla does every now
and then. Extended Support releases may be used by anyone but they are
intended for businesses and other institutions that don't want the program to be
upgraded frequently. The extended support release receives all security
updates but the program itself doesn't upgrade for one year after release.
The next ESR release will be this summer sometime
in June, as I recall.
Because of all the changes being made in firefox
now that may impair performance for blind users and interfere with accessibility
of some web sites, those who don't want to use the new versions are instructed
to use the current ESR version which is version 52 of the program and was
released before these changes took place. Those who want to try the new
versions, in particular those who want to try new versions and send feedback
regarding problems and progress are encouraged to try the new versions as they
are released.
Gene
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Andrea On 22/02/2018 10:11 AM, Antony Stone wrote: > "ESR" means Extended Support Release. > > Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means they > promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases. > > There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release unless: > > a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the > latest one > > or > > b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want to > update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in between > which you are happy with. > > Basically, do not run unsupported software. If security vulnerabilities are > discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody else's > fault. > > So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR version > (which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update > before that version becomes unsupported. > > The above is true for all software, not just Firefox. Not all projects have > ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term Release. > > > Antony. > > On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote: > >> What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox? >> >> Andrea -- Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad
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Re: Firefox ESR
Antony Stone
What software does not run in such an environment?
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I can only think of machines without a network connection, and that's hardly useful these days (secure, agreed, but what can they do?). Antony.
On Thursday 22 February 2018 at 00:39:12, Gene wrote:
Not all software. All software that you use in an environment where it --
+++ Divide By Cucumber Error. Please Reinstall Universe And Reboot +++ Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: Windows 10 detected of virus in Virtual Recorder
Can you just exclude that from your virus scanner I don't know how to do this so read its manual if it indeed has one, or start in the settings and look for an exclude from scan list.
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On Feb 21, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Support for Chromium
There is an Sx access google chrome list. I'll have to find the subscribe links but they are a google group. So maybe going to the groups google home page and wearching there would help as well.
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Good luck.
On Feb 21, 2018, at 3:35 PM, Adriani Botez <adriani.botez@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Firefox ESR
Andrea Sherry
Thanks for that.
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Andrea
On 22/02/2018 10:11 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
"ESR" means Extended Support Release. --
Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad
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Re: Firefox ESR
Gene
Not all software. All software that you use
in an environment where it comes into contact with possibly malicious content
such as browsers. There is lots of software that you don't need to
upgrade.
Gene
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Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means they promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases. There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release unless: a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the latest one or b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want to update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in between which you are happy with. Basically, do not run unsupported software. If security vulnerabilities are discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody else's fault. So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR version (which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update before that version becomes unsupported. The above is true for all software, not just Firefox. Not all projects have ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term Release. Antony. On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote: > What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox? > > Andrea -- I don't know, maybe if we all waited then cosmic rays would write all our software for us. Of course it might take a while. - Ron Minnich, Los Alamos National Laboratory Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Support for Chromium
Adriani Botez
Dear all,
is it possible to improve support for this project? https://github.com/bloomberg/chromium.bb This is the browser used hwen working in bloomberg. It would help many users who want to apply for jobs in finance. I will test it on my work and provide you with more feedback on what exactly is not working. But it would be good if some people here can test it too. Thanks. Best Adriani
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Windows 10 detected of virus in Virtual Recorder
Robert Mendoza
Early this morning when I am about to run the Virtual recorder and haven't use it for awhile the Windows Defender of my Windows 10 detected that there is a virus that's need to be scanned offline. not sure what happened but before the same program has been used with no problem for couple of months ago. Any thought or experience for this. Thanks.
-- Robert Mendoza
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Re: Firefox ESR
Antony Stone
"ESR" means Extended Support Release.
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Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means they promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases. There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release unless: a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the latest one or b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want to update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in between which you are happy with. Basically, do not run unsupported software. If security vulnerabilities are discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody else's fault. So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR version (which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update before that version becomes unsupported. The above is true for all software, not just Firefox. Not all projects have ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term Release. Antony.
On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:
What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox? --
I don't know, maybe if we all waited then cosmic rays would write all our software for us. Of course it might take a while. - Ron Minnich, Los Alamos National Laboratory Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Firefox ESR
Andrea Sherry
What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?
Andrea -- Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad
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Re: Recommendations of Win10 + NVDA Apps and Settings?
Actually I ever saw it, maybe my mail program was acting up. I saw somethingn about settings at the top then the footer. That's when I quit readiing as I skim read all of my emails, plus I had to either go to teach a class or go to bed that day.
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Take care
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Re: list of teamtalk servers?
Lino Morales
Good idea.
Lino Morales
From: Luis Carlos Gonzáles Moráles
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 2:14 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] list of teamtalk servers?
Maybee I can respond him in private no? Lino Morales wrote:
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Re: list of teamtalk servers?
Luis Carlos González Moráles
Maybee I can respond him in private no?
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Lino Morales wrote:
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Re: espeak volume quite low
Gene
I saw Brian's comments about Quincy being softer
and I checked. it's a little softer but not much. I don't think that
small difference in volume is what is being asked about.
Gene
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I don't think that will solve the volume
problem. Why should one voice be at a different volume when the same
synthesizer is being used.
I don't have Windows 10 but this command should
open Windows volume settings for play.
Hold the Windows key and type r. Release both
keys. The run dialog will open.
type sndvol and press enter.
Tab around and see if NVDA is listed in the volume
settings. Can you raise it?
When finished, close the utility with alt f4.
There is no ok button. When you right arrow to raise the volume or left
arrow to lower the volume settings take immediate effect. That allows you
to hear the changes as you make them.
Gene
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On 2/21/18, John Covici <covici@...> wrote: > I am using Max as the variant. Volume is a lot lower than normal > stuff. > > On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 07:48:21 -0500, > zahra wrote: >> >> hi. >> do you use espeak bundled with nvda or >> do you use espeak sapi5? >> if you use espeak of sapi5, it depend on the valume of your choice in >> control panel, valume control. >> if you use espeak which is installed by default with nvda, i did not >> try other synthesizer, >> but for me the valume is loud and i select 60 or 70 for its valume. >> also, it depend on the voice that you selected. >> which variant are you using? >> >> On 2/21/18, John Covici <covici@...> wrote: >> > Hi. I am noticing that espeak has quite alower volume than other >> > system sounds, or listening to a video or anything else, even though >> > the volume is set at 100% in voice settings. How can I fix? >> > >> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. >> > >> > -- >> > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: >> > How do >> > you spend it? >> > >> > John Covici wb2una >> > covici@... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> By God, >> were I given all the seven heavens >> with all they contain >> in order that >> I may disobey God >> by depriving an ant >> from the husk of a grain of barley, >> I would not do it. >> imam ali >> >> >> > > -- > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > How do > you spend it? > > John Covici wb2una > covici@... > > > > -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Bug in espeak ng used in NVDA Next
Simon Eigeldinger
Hi all,
The currently used espeak ng has a bug in the german language. The bug has been fixed and espeak ng should be updated to latest master. haven't opened a ticket yet because i thought i'll not make to much noise about it. though i can open a ticket as well if the devs prefer that. Greetings and thanks, Simon --- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Re: nvda-down arrow not working on web
Chris
It would help us all if you could check which keyboard layout is being used in nvda As that will affect the answer
So I guess it would help us all if you could confirm which keyboard layout you are using under nvda preferences > Keyboard settings ? keyboard layout
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 21 February 2018 18:02 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda-down arrow not working on web
Well that is the only down arrow which is supposed to be a down arrow as the others depend on the shift status. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda-down arrow not working on web
Bear in mind that you need to activate the primary cursor down arrow, and, not the numpad down arrow/number 2 key, like in another screenreader to invoke read all from current position.
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2/21/2018 2:57 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: > Its the nvda and the down arrow that you need. Insert down arrow by > default. > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Covici" <covici@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 8:30 AM > Subject: [nvda] nvda-down arrow not working on web > > >> Hi. I am fairly new to nvda, so please bear with me. >> >> I was reading the user guide and it said if there was a cursor then I >> could use nvda-downarrow to read continuously. Now, I thought this >> would work in reading the user guide itself, but it only read one >> line. Am I missing a setting or does this not work on the web. I am >> using internet explorer and Windows 10 Fall Creators update. >> >> Thanks in advance for any suggestions. >> >> -- >> Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: >> How do >> you spend it? >> >> John Covici wb2una >> covici@... >> >> >> > > > > > >
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
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Re: espeak volume quite low
John Covici
No, not a laptop -- I have it going through a mixer to my stereo
system. On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 13:00:44 -0500, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: QuickBooks
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
From memory, I seem to recall that the new version of this software came along when the add on was being written, and I do not recall if the problems had gone away or got worse. Did I not also see that there is an online and a stand alone version now?
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This often what happens, you get something to work then the company change it again. Look what has happened to the Revo uninstaller. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: <ely.r@comcast.net> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] QuickBooks John,
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