I tend to just tell it to ignore it if things happen like this. In msse you can do this.
Obviously you need to be sure of the origin of the software.

it does the same to passview some software I use to get back peoples forgotten email client passwords too.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 detected of virus in Virtual Recorder

stupid anti virus crap always breaking programs.

On 2/22/18, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:

Now even my backup in my flash drive has been removed. Does anyone here
the link to download the installer for Virtual Recorder. I appreciate
your response.

Robert Mendoza

On 2/22/2018 3:03 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

I will give it a try once again. Thanks, Shaun!

Robert Mendoza

On 2/22/2018 11:07 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hmph its just windows defender targeting the blind again.

Programs your av detects is ok suddenly are problems, just exclude
that folder, you may have to reinstall virtual recorder.




On 22/02/2018 12:19 p.m., Robert Mendoza wrote:

Early this morning when I am about to run the Virtual recorder and
haven't use it for awhile the Windows Defender of my Windows 10
detected that there is a virus that's need to be scanned offline.
not sure what happened but before the same program has been used
with no problem for couple of months ago. Any thought or experience
for this. Thanks.

--
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Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762

Yes I know. I'm not as power user as you are, but I have an xp machine upstairs which accidentally got avast on it. I got a sighted person to uninstall it, but now there are a few core services still running which cannot be removed without, according to my research, using safe mode and a special remover from avast.

I'm sure all this seemed like a good idea to the vendors, but to the end user they are a pain. on our studio windows 7 machine avast seems to have been gotten rid of but there are still one or too bits that cannot be deleted claiming the partition that they refer to is in use but cannot be accessed from windows. How do I really know if avast is good or has it seated some bits of itself out of sight and is now sending data back? I'm not about to reformat that would be both impossible and stop the paper being published for a couple of weeks.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 8:31 AM
Subject: [nvda] virtual recorder

Hi.

http://opopanax.net/dl is where all of the virtual recorder is.

Recently I have come to the conclusion that if it wasn't for ransomware, I think I'd actually go without antivirus, a firewall or any security software at all.

It seems that all a lot of this stuff does is target things that were working fine and screw them over.

The blind are targeted a lot.

Bgt excluded since that and how its written is just something antiviruses don't like.

The only way to fix the issue is exclude parts of your hard drive.

I have half a mind to just exclude all my drives and take my chances.

I do this to a few folders in my backup drives but to be honest I do wander at how security software has degraded not just in accessibility but functionality as well.

In the old days I used to use zone alarm and a few other firewalls.

Lets see, load 1, and suddenly the antivirus software says its bad, part of it is deleted, the system is screwed.

A reformat fixes it but now I need to find another.

The other certainly works, blocking everything including changed ips and remote shares which may have been fine if it was not inaccessible, and if I had a static ip it would be fine but I don't have one of those.

So printers drives etc.

I simply abandoned sharing and internal remoting all together.

Msse doesn't seem to be that bad but I can see I am going to have to restructure bits of my hard drive.

Firstly, directories for games, office apps, etc, and have those excluded, then an unprocessed folder in my root just so I can find out what exactly is not a virus when something is caught.

That may be a blessing as I have to structure my drives which I don't do.

On the other hand it takes time.

I am unsure about usb drives I guess you have to have apps in portable apps on e f g etc and exclude that and hope like hell nothing screws up.

And while this promotes best practice, it certainly stops me trying to get something better than crappy msse/defender.

If the crappy antivirus and malware software has so much false alarms what will a really good bit of software do.

No, I know what that did, I trialed on the network something and it decided that windows was a virus.

2 weeks later and 3 reformats for the 3 computers and reinstalling of things and either buying, or trying to get back lost licences to products I allready own, I went online to the site I got the programs to complain, and they had up and left.

And were nowhere on the net at all.

I am using Max as the variant. Volume is a lot lower than normal
stuff.

On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 07:48:21 -0500,
zahra wrote:

hi.
do you use espeak bundled with nvda or
do you use espeak sapi5?
if you use espeak of sapi5, it depend on the valume of your choice in
control panel, valume control.
if you use espeak which is installed by default with nvda, i did not
try other synthesizer,
but for me the valume is loud and i select 60 or 70 for its valume.
also, it depend on the voice that you selected.
which variant are you using?

On 2/21/18, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:

Hi. I am noticing that espeak has quite alower volume than other
system sounds, or listening to a video or anything else, even though
the volume is set at 100% in voice settings. How can I fix?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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How do
you spend it?

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were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

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How do
you spend it?

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covici@...

"ESR" means Extended Support Release.

Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means they
promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.

There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release unless:

a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
latest one

or

b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want to
update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in between
which you are happy with.

Basically, do not run unsupported software. If security vulnerabilities are
discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody else's
fault.

So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR version
(which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
before that version becomes unsupported.

The above is true for all software, not just Firefox. Not all projects have
ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term Release.


Antony.

On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:

What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?

Andrea

wrote:

Hi all,

The currently used espeak ng has a bug in the german language.
The bug has been fixed and espeak ng should be updated to latest master.
haven't opened a ticket yet because i thought i'll not make to much
noise about it.
though i can open a ticket as well if the devs prefer that.

Greetings and thanks,
Simon



---
Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

This brings me to the question – what sort of issues are users of Firefox 58
and NVDA experiencing? I know that other major screen-reader does not work
with any of the new FF versions, but nVDA does – seemingly quite well in
fact.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: February 21, 2018 7:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR



This isn't just something Mozilla does every now and then. Extended Support
releases may be used by anyone but they are intended for businesses and
other institutions that don't want the program to be upgraded frequently.
The extended support release receives all security updates but the program
itself doesn't upgrade for one year after release.



The next ESR release will be this summer sometime in June, as I recall.



Because of all the changes being made in firefox now that may impair
performance for blind users and interfere with accessibility of some web
sites, those who don't want to use the new versions are instructed to use
the current ESR version which is version 52 of the program and was released
before these changes took place. Those who want to try the new versions, in
particular those who want to try new versions and send feedback regarding
problems and progress are encouraged to try the new versions as they are
released.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Andrea Sherry <mailto:sherryan@...>

Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:40 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR



Thanks for that.

Andrea


On 22/02/2018 10:11 AM, Antony Stone wrote:

"ESR" means Extended Support Release.

Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means
they
promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.

There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release
unless:

a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
latest one

or

b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want
to
update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in
between
which you are happy with.

Basically, do not run unsupported software. If security vulnerabilities
are
discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody else's
fault.

So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR
version
(which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
before that version becomes unsupported.

The above is true for all software, not just Firefox. Not all projects
have
ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term Release.


Antony.

On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:

What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?

Andrea

--
Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start
from now and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad

stupid anti virus crap always breaking programs.

On 2/22/18, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:

Now even my backup in my flash drive has been removed. Does anyone here
the link to download the installer for Virtual Recorder. I appreciate
your response.

Robert Mendoza

On 2/22/2018 3:03 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

I will give it a try once again. Thanks, Shaun!

Robert Mendoza

On 2/22/2018 11:07 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hmph its just windows defender targeting the blind again.

Programs your av detects is ok suddenly are problems, just exclude
that folder, you may have to reinstall virtual recorder.




On 22/02/2018 12:19 p.m., Robert Mendoza wrote:

Early this morning when I am about to run the Virtual recorder and
haven't use it for awhile the Windows Defender of my Windows 10
detected that there is a virus that's need to be scanned offline.
not sure what happened but before the same program has been used
with no problem for couple of months ago. Any thought or experience
for this. Thanks.

--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762

Hi.

http://opopanax.net/dl is where all of the virtual recorder is.

Recently I have come to the conclusion that if it wasn't for ransomware, I think I'd actually go without antivirus, a firewall or any security software at all.

It seems that all a lot of this stuff does is target things that were working fine and screw them over.

The blind are targeted a lot.

Bgt excluded since that and how its written is just something antiviruses don't like.

The only way to fix the issue is exclude parts of your hard drive.

I have half a mind to just exclude all my drives and take my chances.

I do this to a few folders in my backup drives but to be honest I do wander at how security software has degraded not just in accessibility but functionality as well.

In the old days I used to use zone alarm and a few other firewalls.

Lets see, load 1, and suddenly the antivirus software says its bad, part of it is deleted, the system is screwed.

A reformat fixes it but now I need to find another.

The other certainly works, blocking everything including changed ips and remote shares which may have been fine if it was not inaccessible, and if I had a static ip it would be fine but I don't have one of those.

So printers drives etc.

I simply abandoned sharing and internal remoting all together.

Msse doesn't seem to be that bad but I can see I am going to have to restructure bits of my hard drive.

Firstly, directories for games, office apps, etc, and have those excluded, then an unprocessed folder in my root just so I can find out what exactly is not a virus when something is caught.

That may be a blessing as I have to structure my drives which I don't do.

On the other hand it takes time.

I am unsure about usb drives I guess you have to have apps in portable apps on e f g etc and exclude that and hope like hell nothing screws up.

And while this promotes best practice, it certainly stops me trying to get something better than crappy msse/defender.

If the crappy antivirus and malware software has so much false alarms what will a really good bit of software do.

No, I know what that did, I trialed on the network something and it decided that windows was a virus.

2 weeks later and 3 reformats for the 3 computers and reinstalling of things and either buying, or trying to get back lost licences to products I allready own, I went online to the site I got the programs to complain, and they had up and left.

And were nowhere on the net at all.

Now even my backup in my flash drive has been removed. Does anyone here
the link to download the installer for Virtual Recorder. I appreciate
your response.

Robert Mendoza

On 2/22/2018 3:03 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

I will give it a try once again. Thanks, Shaun!

Robert Mendoza

On 2/22/2018 11:07 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hmph its just windows defender targeting the blind again.

Programs your av detects is ok suddenly are problems, just exclude
that folder, you may have to reinstall virtual recorder.




On 22/02/2018 12:19 p.m., Robert Mendoza wrote:

Early this morning when I am about to run the Virtual recorder and
haven't use it for awhile the Windows Defender of my Windows 10
detected that there is a virus that's need to be scanned offline.
not sure what happened but before the same program has been used
with no problem for couple of months ago. Any thought or experience
for this. Thanks.

I will give it a try once again. Thanks, Shaun!

Robert Mendoza

On 2/22/2018 11:07 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hmph its just windows defender targeting the blind again.

Programs your av detects is ok suddenly are problems, just exclude that folder, you may have to reinstall virtual recorder.




On 22/02/2018 12:19 p.m., Robert Mendoza wrote:

Early this morning when I am about to run the Virtual recorder and haven't use it for awhile the Windows Defender of my Windows 10 detected that there is a virus that's need to be scanned offline. not sure what happened but before the same program has been used with no problem for couple of months ago. Any thought or experience for this. Thanks.

Hmph its just windows defender targeting the blind again.

Programs your av detects is ok suddenly are problems, just exclude that folder, you may have to reinstall virtual recorder.




On 22/02/2018 12:19 p.m., Robert Mendoza wrote:

Early this morning when I am about to run the Virtual recorder and haven't use it for awhile the Windows Defender of my Windows 10 detected that there is a virus that's need to be scanned offline. not sure what happened but before the same program has been used with no problem for couple of months ago. Any thought or experience for this. Thanks.

This brings me to the question – what sort of issues are users of Firefox 58
and NVDA experiencing? I know that other major screen-reader does not work
with any of the new FF versions, but nVDA does – seemingly quite well in
fact.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: February 21, 2018 7:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR



This isn't just something Mozilla does every now and then. Extended Support
releases may be used by anyone but they are intended for businesses and
other institutions that don't want the program to be upgraded frequently.
The extended support release receives all security updates but the program
itself doesn't upgrade for one year after release.



The next ESR release will be this summer sometime in June, as I recall.



Because of all the changes being made in firefox now that may impair
performance for blind users and interfere with accessibility of some web
sites, those who don't want to use the new versions are instructed to use
the current ESR version which is version 52 of the program and was released
before these changes took place. Those who want to try the new versions, in
particular those who want to try new versions and send feedback regarding
problems and progress are encouraged to try the new versions as they are
released.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Andrea Sherry <mailto:sherryan@...>

Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:40 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR



Thanks for that.

Andrea


On 22/02/2018 10:11 AM, Antony Stone wrote:

"ESR" means Extended Support Release.

Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means
they
promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.

There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release
unless:

a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
latest one

or

b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want
to
update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in
between
which you are happy with.

Basically, do not run unsupported software. If security vulnerabilities
are
discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody else's
fault.

So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR
version
(which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
before that version becomes unsupported.

The above is true for all software, not just Firefox. Not all projects
have
ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term Release.


Antony.

On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:

What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?

Andrea

--
Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start
from now and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad

There is an Sx access google chrome list. I'll have to find the subscribe
links but they are a google group. So maybe going to the groups google home
page and wearching there would help as well.

Good luck.

On Feb 21, 2018, at 3:35 PM, Adriani Botez <adriani.botez@...>
wrote:

Dear all,

is it possible to improve support for this project?
https://github.com/bloomberg/chromium.bb

This is the browser used hwen working in bloomberg. It would help many
users
who want to apply for jobs in finance.

I will test it on my work and provide you with more feedback on what
exactly
is not working. But it would be good if some people here can test it too.

Thanks.

Best
Adriani

Thanks for that.

Andrea


On 22/02/2018 10:11 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
> "ESR" means Extended Support Release.
>
> Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means they
> promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.
>
> There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release unless:
>
> a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
> latest one
>
> or
>
> b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want to
> update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in between
> which you are happy with.
>
> Basically, do not run unsupported software.  If security vulnerabilities are
> discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody else's
> fault.
>
> So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR version
> (which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
> before that version becomes unsupported.
>
> The above is true for all software, not just Firefox.  Not all projects have
> ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term Release.
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:
>
>> What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?
>>
>> Andrea

--
Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start
from now and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad