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Re: did you test libreoffice 5.3 and later to read dialogs using screen review?

Simon Eigeldinger
 

Hi,

Yes that problem is also on libreoffice 6.0.
though i have that problem with some of the programs i am using.
not just libreoffice.
also some native windows programs have that problem.
it also took me a while to get used to object navigation.
but if you get the hang out of it it works pretty well.
just continue to try and figure out how it works.
i found a nice tutorial somewhere where i was quickly able to learn it
bout i guess i have lost the link.

i guess it was one of joseph's tutorials though.

Greetings,
Simon



Am 24.02.2018 um 18:12 schrieb zahra:
hello every one.
i asked this questions in different posts, but did not recieve reply.
libreoffice since version 5.3, shows dialogs like one combine word
without space when i read them using screen review!
i did not learn object review and sometimes does not work me, so i
prefer to use screen review always.
i appreciate if users of libreoffice give me advice what should i do
to restore previous behaviour of libreofficefor showing dialogs and
messages.
i recorded one sample and i am ready to send if someone helps me in this regard.
i appreciate any help, God bless you all!
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Re: Bug in espeak ng used in NVDA Next

Simon Eigeldinger
 

Hi all,

I wholeheartedly want to say sorry.
If its the issue you are describing.

On the other hand if its possible there needs a way to go forward though.
Because Win XP is nowadays pretty difficult to be used because of many software aren't supported anymore.
also antivirus, mail and browsers aren't running anymore on xp.
i don't know if Firefox ESR still runs on XP though it is still on the 52 branch so it might.


I also don't know if linux would be an alternative.

unfortunately espeak ng just starts with win 8.1
i also would be happy if it would work on win xp or 7.
though 7 might work.
i also don't know why they are using the win 8.1 sdk to build it.

i don't know if the voice data of espeak ng can be moved to espeak though that might break the whole thing or no audio would come out of it.

Greetings,
Simon


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That is not helpful in this context. Remember where this person lives and options are very restricted due to sanctions, cost and the attitude of both the state and outside entities.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Eigeldinger" <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Bug in espeak ng used in NVDA Next
then you should update your operating system to something more recent.
espeak ng wouldn't work on win xp.
that system is way outdated anyway.
Greetings,
Simon
Am 23.02.2018 um 09:13 schrieb zahra:
no, i am sure completely that i installed 32bit version of espeak-ng,
but recieved the error for not valid win32!
i use windows xp,  as many people know.

On 2/23/18, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Sorry, that was my misreading re eSpeak-NG versions.

Re eSpeak-ng saying it won't work on Win 32, at a guess you may have
downloaded the 64-bit version - on that eSpeak-NG download page:
https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng#binaries you can download Windows
binaries for 64 or 32-bit.

I'll have a look and see when we plan to update to one of the newer
eSpeak-NG builds in next.

Quentin.



On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:29 AM, Simon Eigeldinger
<simon.eigeldinger@vol.at
wrote:
Forgot to ask which OS are you using?

Greetings,
Simon



Am 22.02.2018 um 18:06 schrieb zahra:

hi.
i downloaded any version of 1.49.1 and 1.49.2 of espeak ng and says
that its not valid for win32!
but i am sure that download x86 version of espeak.
do you know the reason of this error?

On 2/22/18, Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> wrote:

Hi Brian,

This is just a german only problem i have had.
already have reported to the espeak ng team and it has been fixed in
espeak ng master.
nvda next has espeak ng master from a few weeks where the bug is
present.

Greetings,
Simon


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I'm still using the old Espeak in the speech palyer in espeak as the
weird ways some words are said in ng is still a problem.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen"
<quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 3:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Bug in espeak ng used in NVDA Next


Hi Simon,

What version of eSpeak-NG are you using?  Looking at:
https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/releases indicates that the
latest
version is 1.49.2, which we updated to prior to NVDA 2017.4.

Having said that, I know there are still issues with eSpeak, some of
which
are tracked on our issue tracker, and some on eSpeak-NG's here:
https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/issues

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 5:35 AM, Simon Eigeldinger
<simon.eigeldinger@vol.at

wrote:
Hi all,

The currently used espeak ng has a bug in the german language.
The bug has been fixed and espeak ng should be updated to latest
master.
haven't opened a ticket yet because i thought i'll not make to much
noise about it.
though i can open a ticket as well if the devs prefer that.

Greetings and thanks,
Simon



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Re: did you test libreoffice 5.3 and later to read dialogs using screen review?

 

i completely agree.
but whats the best and most accessible version of libreoffice you know?
i did not have at least issue using dialogs in libreoffice 5.2!
its the problem which i experienced in 5.3 and 5.4!
i wished that libreoffice preserved accessibility at least like openoffice!
i realy need opensource program for reading and editing my books and
cant use microsoft.

On 2/24/18, Carlos <gmjc341961@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello:

    LibreOffice is not very accessible with screen readers.

    Apache OpenOffice works OK with NVDA.  It may not be perfect.  But!
At least in my experience it's better than LibreOffice!

    Appearantly none of the open source office suites are very
interested in accessibility for the blind!  They will not even make an
attempt to have a dialog with screen reader developers to see how the
can improve their software so that the blind can have better access to
the software!

    At least for selfish reasons Microsoft has worked with screen
reader developers to make MS Office accessible for screen reader users.

    More/many blind screen reader users really need to demand from open
source office suites developers to provide great accessibility for the
blind!

    I'm so very sorry! That i've not been of much help to you! but,
I've had a very bad experience with LibreOffice in particular, and, with
open source/freeware office suites as a whole!

    I really do hope that everyone who reads this will take the time to
send very nice/polite emails to LibreOffice telling them that blind
people really want to use their software and if they make it
accessible.  Blind people are very loyal to those who develop blind
friendly software!!!



On 2/24/2018 9:12 AM, zahra wrote:
hello every one.
i asked this questions in different posts, but did not recieve reply.
libreoffice since version 5.3, shows dialogs like one combine word
without space when i read them using screen review!
i did not learn object review and sometimes does not work me, so i
prefer to use screen review always.
i appreciate if users of libreoffice give me advice what should i do
to restore previous behaviour of libreofficefor showing dialogs and
messages.
i recorded one sample and i am ready to send if someone helps me in this
regard.
i appreciate any help, God bless you all!
--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com




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were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
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by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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Re: did you test libreoffice 5.3 and later to read dialogs using screen review?

Carlos
 

Hello:

    LibreOffice is not very accessible with screen readers.

    Apache OpenOffice works OK with NVDA.  It may not be perfect.  But! At least in my experience it's better than LibreOffice!

    Appearantly none of the open source office suites are very interested in accessibility for the blind!  They will not even make an attempt to have a dialog with screen reader developers to see how the can improve their software so that the blind can have better access to the software!

    At least for selfish reasons Microsoft has worked with screen reader developers to make MS Office accessible for screen reader users.

    More/many blind screen reader users really need to demand from open source office suites developers to provide great accessibility for the blind!

    I'm so very sorry! That i've not been of much help to you! but, I've had a very bad experience with LibreOffice in particular, and, with open source/freeware office suites as a whole!

    I really do hope that everyone who reads this will take the time to send very nice/polite emails to LibreOffice telling them that blind people really want to use their software and if they make it accessible.  Blind people are very loyal to those who develop blind friendly software!!!

On 2/24/2018 9:12 AM, zahra wrote:
hello every one.
i asked this questions in different posts, but did not recieve reply.
libreoffice since version 5.3, shows dialogs like one combine word
without space when i read them using screen review!
i did not learn object review and sometimes does not work me, so i
prefer to use screen review always.
i appreciate if users of libreoffice give me advice what should i do
to restore previous behaviour of libreofficefor showing dialogs and
messages.
i recorded one sample and i am ready to send if someone helps me in this regard.
i appreciate any help, God bless you all!
--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com


Re: question

Gene
 

We might get more information. 
 
While some programs let you record in that way, others don't.  I don't know which do other than Audacity and virtual Recorder.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Hello Gene,
 
Yes in effect, let’s take Audacity as it is a free program, to set it to record everything regardless of soundcard settings, press Alt and right arrow to edit, up arrow to preferences and press enter, go to the top of the list which is “devices and tab, arrow down to Windows WA sappie and then tab on to OK and press enter.
This will give the equivilent of “what you hear”.
I can give more detailed information if necessary, such as saving in MP3 format for which you need the lame mp3 encoder to be installed, also free.
I would still like to know where the actual file is located as I am curious by nature.
 
Best Regards, Jim.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question
 
Are you describing recording what you hear as the file plays or something else such as you can do in replay audio?  A lot of recording programs can't do what replay audio and Total Recorder can do.  If the person wants to record what his sound card is playing, I can recommend a very simple program with which he can very likely do this.  To be sure what settings he should use, I'd need to know what version of Windows he has and whether it has a what you hear or a stereo mix option.  Even if it doesn't. he probably can do this but we would have to know what version of Windows is being used.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question
 
If all else fails and as a last resort, find your file in the browser and focus on it,open an audio editor such as Sound forge, Goldwave or audacity and start it recording, alt and tab back to your file and press enter, let it finish and then go back to the audio editor and stop it, you can then save this file in whatever format you want.
You must make sure that the audio editor is set to accept input from the internet.
Perhaps a bit long winded, but it will always work and I have done it on many occasions.
Best Regards, Jim.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question
 
In order to help, we need details.  What browser are you using?  When you press enter on the file, does it play in the browser or open another program?  Is the file actually referred to as a podcast?  We don't know, at this point, if the file is being played as it is fully downloaded into the browser or a player or if it is a stream that only plays part of the file, overwrites what it has played as it plays move.
 
Can you give the address of the page where the file link is?
Gene
 
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question
 

Hi gene

Your explanation is quite right. There isn’t any file to download but to play it on the website.

Regards

Anthony 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 24 February 2018 11:03
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

I discussed the file type briefly but my main point is that using the context menu will allow you to save files on some sites and not on others.  this is not related to the file type, it's how the site is constructed. 

 

We don't know, but my guess is that, in this case, Internet Explorer is being used and the file opens in Windows Media player, hence the question of how to save from there. 

 

In the context of other browsers, not the archaic Internet Explorer, the file is played in the browser when you press enter on the link.  If you are on a site where save target as or equivalent doesn't work, you need to know that you can use the command control s while the file is playing, and save it while in the browser in that way. 

 

Of course, that presupposes that you are dealing with an actual file that is playing from the site as a file, and not a stream.  The stream plays a little of a file and then refreshes the buffer in the browser or player but the entire file is never available.  Just a little bit ahead of where you are listening.  It can't be saved because it is a stream, not a file playing as a file from the web site.  Since this is called a podcast in the question, the odds are that it is an actual file being played from the web site, not a stream as I am using the word.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:29 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hello Gene,

 

If you  read my message again, I do say, “We don’t know what kind of file it is so can’t be specific”,

It’s worth a try anyway, if the original questioner could say exactly what podcast  is to be downloaded, that would be better.

As you rightly say,that is why you asked questions.

Best Regards, Jim.

 

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:57 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

That is one way you can save many files.  But it is important to know other ways as well.  Some sites don't support downloading files in that way.  That's why I asked questions such as whether the file opens in Windows media Player. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:51 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hello,

 

Pressing enter on the link will probably open it, if it’s to be downloaded, try the context menu, [key to the left of the right control key on a standard keyboard], you get options including maybe “save as” or “save target as”, this should bring up the normal save as dialogue and the file can be saved to a folder, from there it cvan be opened in a program such as Windows media player.

We don’t know what kindof file it is so can’t be specific, I hope this helps and good luck.

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

 

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:38 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

But when you press enter on the link, what happens?  Does it play In Media Player?  I believe someone described how to download a file such as a podcast playing in Windows Media Player.  But before that method is of any use to you, does the file open in the player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:15 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hi gene

It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

How are you getting to the podcast in the first place?  Is it playing in Media Player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM

Subject: [nvda] question

 

Hi folks

Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the internet using windows media player please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: FW: [win10] Version 1709 and beyond: screen readers must support uIA notification event in order to announce various things from apps #winten1803 #advisory #winten1709

 

Hi,

No, Jenny is still around and leading accessibility efforts at Microsoft.

In response to a post regarding MS slipping back to dark ages: in this context (the overall thread), both sides (MS and screen reader vendors) are at fault: Microsoft for not communicating things well, and screen reader vendors taking a while to respond. At least NVDA is taking the lead in responding back.

As for what’s going on behind the scenes: NVDA did not respond to UIA notification events. We did have means of tracking it for a while (via an add-on), but it wasn’t until yesterday that we began responding properly (again via an add-on update). For those who know where this is going: yes, NVDA will read UIA notification text starting next week once Windows 10 App Essentials 18.03 is released. But this is just a start: I’m using that ad-on to field test what will eventually be edits to NVDA screen reader source code to let NVDA announce notifications without help from an add-on or two (and I’m working on both of these at the moment). This is the reason why I put “yellow light” for NVDA because work is in progress to let NVDA announce notifications.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 5:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: [win10] Version 1709 and beyond: screen readers must support uIA notification event in order to announce various things from apps #ADVISORY #WinTen1709 #WinTen1803

 

From what I have read, they lost her. I don't see her name on anything recent when I do a Google search. I'm not completely certain though and, yeah. I hear you. XP still is the best thing Microsoft created.


Re: Test and a worning

Sarah k Alawami
 

They are having issues right ow. Someone reported groups.io as a fishing site on edge apparently. You can find out more at I think it's status.groups.io

hope that helps a bit.


Take care

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Re: [win10] Version 1709 and beyond: screen readers mustsupport uIA notification event in order to announce various things from apps#ADVISORY #winten1709 #winten1803

Sarah k Alawami
 

Agreed. It is very fast and very  easy to use. Sometimes easier than nvda when I'm in  a pinch. I will use nvda when I lose my tab key  in obs, although narrator does not pick up the tab when that happens either, still though I can get around farily quick.

On Feb 24, 2018, at 2:46 AM, mattias <mjonsson1986@...> wrote:

Narrator to slow and clunky?
What do you meen with clunky?
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Ämne: Re: [nvda] FW: [win10] Version 1709 and beyond: screen readers mustsupport uIA notification event in order to announce various things from apps#ADVISORY #WinTen1709 #WinTen1803
 
It seems to me like Microsoft are slipping back into the ways that got them
into the brown sticky stuff with edge. Ie changing things and putting out
releases with no advisory to the screenreader community of a big change in
the system. we have seen it in Skype recently too. Somebody over there at
Microsoft needs to get a better grip on changes that affect access software
and not merely assume narrator is all that matters.
 
Narrator is still too slow and clunky to use every day.
I was going to get a windows 10 machine but until they stop messing about
I'm sorely tempted to stay old fashioned!
 
Have they lost that Jenny whats her name from the accessibility management
who seemed to do a good job before?
Brian
 
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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] FW: [win10] Version 1709 and beyond: screen readers must
support uIA notification event in order to announce various things from apps
#ADVISORY #WinTen1709 #WinTen1803
 
 
> Hi all,
> First, apologies for mentioning competition, but I felt it is best to do
> so
> given the overall context. Second, the advisory is deemed major (to severe
> for some cases) and is applicable for people running Windows 10 Fall
> Creators Update and beyond. The source of this advisory is a Win10 forum
> hosted on Groups.IO at https://win10.groups.io/g/win10.
> Thanks.
> Joseph Lee
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 9:42 AM
> Subject: [win10] Version 1709 and beyond: screen readers must support uIA
> notification event in order to announce various things from apps #ADVISORY
> #WinTen1709 #WinTen1803
> Hi everyone,
> The following advisory is considered major in that it impacts all known
> screen readers )except for one or two; feel free to pass this on, although
> please do cite where you've got the advisory from):
> Problem: notifications from apps such as Calculator, Microsoft Store and
> others are not announced by screen readers.
> Background: in Windows 10 Version 1709 and later, if apps are written
> correctly, they can send notification texts to be announced by screen
> readers. A UIA client such as a screen reader must be able to catch this
> in
> order to announce certain notifications, including Calculator's display
> window, app update status in Microsoft Store, various notifications from
> Edge, Alarms and Clock and other apps.
> Steps to reproduce:
> 1. While using Windows 10 Version 1709 or later (including current
> Insider Preview builds), launch an app such as Alarms and Clock (be sure
> it
> is the latest version).
> 2. In case of Alarms and Clock, go to Stopwatch tab and start and stop
> the stopwatch.
> 3. For Calculator, do some calculations.
> Expected: screen reader announces messages such as "Stopwatch stopped" in
> Alarms and Clock and "display is something" in Calculator.
> Actual: only Narrator announces such texts.
> Cause: other screen readers do not track UIA notification event. This is
> due
> to the fact that Version 1709 introduces this event, which requires
> tracking
> a newer UIA interface.
> Known solutions/mitigations/workarounds and impact:
> * Narrator: green light/okay; works out of the box (requires Version
> 1709 and later).
> * JAWS for Windows: red light/major; no support (version 2018.1802.78
> did not solve the Calculator display text problem, for instance).
> * NonVisual Desktop Access: yellow light/solution being tested
> (through an add-on update).
> This advisory will be closed once major screen readers (in addition to the
> three listed above) provides at least a basic solution.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
 
 

 
 


did you test libreoffice 5.3 and later to read dialogs using screen review?

 

hello every one.
i asked this questions in different posts, but did not recieve reply.
libreoffice since version 5.3, shows dialogs like one combine word
without space when i read them using screen review!
i did not learn object review and sometimes does not work me, so i
prefer to use screen review always.
i appreciate if users of libreoffice give me advice what should i do
to restore previous behaviour of libreofficefor showing dialogs and
messages.
i recorded one sample and i am ready to send if someone helps me in this regard.
i appreciate any help, God bless you all!
--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: question

The Gamages
 

Hello Gene,
 
Yes in effect, let’s take Audacity as it is a free program, to set it to record everything regardless of soundcard settings, press Alt and right arrow to edit, up arrow to preferences and press enter, go to the top of the list which is “devices and tab, arrow down to Windows WA sappie and then tab on to OK and press enter.
This will give the equivilent of “what you hear”.
I can give more detailed information if necessary, such as saving in MP3 format for which you need the lame mp3 encoder to be installed, also free.
I would still like to know where the actual file is located as I am curious by nature.
 
Best Regards, Jim.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question
 
Are you describing recording what you hear as the file plays or something else such as you can do in replay audio?  A lot of recording programs can't do what replay audio and Total Recorder can do.  If the person wants to record what his sound card is playing, I can recommend a very simple program with which he can very likely do this.  To be sure what settings he should use, I'd need to know what version of Windows he has and whether it has a what you hear or a stereo mix option.  Even if it doesn't. he probably can do this but we would have to know what version of Windows is being used.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question
 
If all else fails and as a last resort, find your file in the browser and focus on it,open an audio editor such as Sound forge, Goldwave or audacity and start it recording, alt and tab back to your file and press enter, let it finish and then go back to the audio editor and stop it, you can then save this file in whatever format you want.
You must make sure that the audio editor is set to accept input from the internet.
Perhaps a bit long winded, but it will always work and I have done it on many occasions.
Best Regards, Jim.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question
 
In order to help, we need details.  What browser are you using?  When you press enter on the file, does it play in the browser or open another program?  Is the file actually referred to as a podcast?  We don't know, at this point, if the file is being played as it is fully downloaded into the browser or a player or if it is a stream that only plays part of the file, overwrites what it has played as it plays move.
 
Can you give the address of the page where the file link is?
Gene
 
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question
 

Hi gene

Your explanation is quite right. There isn’t any file to download but to play it on the website.

Regards

Anthony 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 24 February 2018 11:03
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

I discussed the file type briefly but my main point is that using the context menu will allow you to save files on some sites and not on others.  this is not related to the file type, it's how the site is constructed. 

 

We don't know, but my guess is that, in this case, Internet Explorer is being used and the file opens in Windows Media player, hence the question of how to save from there. 

 

In the context of other browsers, not the archaic Internet Explorer, the file is played in the browser when you press enter on the link.  If you are on a site where save target as or equivalent doesn't work, you need to know that you can use the command control s while the file is playing, and save it while in the browser in that way. 

 

Of course, that presupposes that you are dealing with an actual file that is playing from the site as a file, and not a stream.  The stream plays a little of a file and then refreshes the buffer in the browser or player but the entire file is never available.  Just a little bit ahead of where you are listening.  It can't be saved because it is a stream, not a file playing as a file from the web site.  Since this is called a podcast in the question, the odds are that it is an actual file being played from the web site, not a stream as I am using the word.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:29 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hello Gene,

 

If you  read my message again, I do say, “We don’t know what kind of file it is so can’t be specific”,

It’s worth a try anyway, if the original questioner could say exactly what podcast  is to be downloaded, that would be better.

As you rightly say,that is why you asked questions.

Best Regards, Jim.

 

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:57 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

That is one way you can save many files.  But it is important to know other ways as well.  Some sites don't support downloading files in that way.  That's why I asked questions such as whether the file opens in Windows media Player. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:51 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hello,

 

Pressing enter on the link will probably open it, if it’s to be downloaded, try the context menu, [key to the left of the right control key on a standard keyboard], you get options including maybe “save as” or “save target as”, this should bring up the normal save as dialogue and the file can be saved to a folder, from there it cvan be opened in a program such as Windows media player.

We don’t know what kindof file it is so can’t be specific, I hope this helps and good luck.

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

 

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:38 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

But when you press enter on the link, what happens?  Does it play In Media Player?  I believe someone described how to download a file such as a podcast playing in Windows Media Player.  But before that method is of any use to you, does the file open in the player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:15 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hi gene

It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

How are you getting to the podcast in the first place?  Is it playing in Media Player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM

Subject: [nvda] question

 

Hi folks

Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the internet using windows media player please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: question

Gene
 

Are you describing recording what you hear as the file plays or something else such as you can do in replay audio?  A lot of recording programs can't do what replay audio and Total Recorder can do.  If the person wants to record what his sound card is playing, I can recommend a very simple program with which he can very likely do this.  To be sure what settings he should use, I'd need to know what version of Windows he has and whether it has a what you hear or a stereo mix option.  Even if it doesn't. he probably can do this but we would have to know what version of Windows is being used.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

If all else fails and as a last resort, find your file in the browser and focus on it,open an audio editor such as Sound forge, Goldwave or audacity and start it recording, alt and tab back to your file and press enter, let it finish and then go back to the audio editor and stop it, you can then save this file in whatever format you want.
You must make sure that the audio editor is set to accept input from the internet.
Perhaps a bit long winded, but it will always work and I have done it on many occasions.
Best Regards, Jim.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question
 
In order to help, we need details.  What browser are you using?  When you press enter on the file, does it play in the browser or open another program?  Is the file actually referred to as a podcast?  We don't know, at this point, if the file is being played as it is fully downloaded into the browser or a player or if it is a stream that only plays part of the file, overwrites what it has played as it plays move.
 
Can you give the address of the page where the file link is?
Gene
 
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question
 

Hi gene

Your explanation is quite right. There isn’t any file to download but to play it on the website.

Regards

Anthony 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 24 February 2018 11:03
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

I discussed the file type briefly but my main point is that using the context menu will allow you to save files on some sites and not on others.  this is not related to the file type, it's how the site is constructed. 

 

We don't know, but my guess is that, in this case, Internet Explorer is being used and the file opens in Windows Media player, hence the question of how to save from there. 

 

In the context of other browsers, not the archaic Internet Explorer, the file is played in the browser when you press enter on the link.  If you are on a site where save target as or equivalent doesn't work, you need to know that you can use the command control s while the file is playing, and save it while in the browser in that way. 

 

Of course, that presupposes that you are dealing with an actual file that is playing from the site as a file, and not a stream.  The stream plays a little of a file and then refreshes the buffer in the browser or player but the entire file is never available.  Just a little bit ahead of where you are listening.  It can't be saved because it is a stream, not a file playing as a file from the web site.  Since this is called a podcast in the question, the odds are that it is an actual file being played from the web site, not a stream as I am using the word.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:29 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hello Gene,

 

If you  read my message again, I do say, “We don’t know what kind of file it is so can’t be specific”,

It’s worth a try anyway, if the original questioner could say exactly what podcast  is to be downloaded, that would be better.

As you rightly say,that is why you asked questions.

Best Regards, Jim.

 

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:57 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

That is one way you can save many files.  But it is important to know other ways as well.  Some sites don't support downloading files in that way.  That's why I asked questions such as whether the file opens in Windows media Player. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:51 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hello,

 

Pressing enter on the link will probably open it, if it’s to be downloaded, try the context menu, [key to the left of the right control key on a standard keyboard], you get options including maybe “save as” or “save target as”, this should bring up the normal save as dialogue and the file can be saved to a folder, from there it cvan be opened in a program such as Windows media player.

We don’t know what kindof file it is so can’t be specific, I hope this helps and good luck.

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

 

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:38 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

But when you press enter on the link, what happens?  Does it play In Media Player?  I believe someone described how to download a file such as a podcast playing in Windows Media Player.  But before that method is of any use to you, does the file open in the player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:15 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hi gene

It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

How are you getting to the podcast in the first place?  Is it playing in Media Player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM

Subject: [nvda] question

 

Hi folks

Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the internet using windows media player please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: question

The Gamages
 

If all else fails and as a last resort, find your file in the browser and focus on it,open an audio editor such as Sound forge, Goldwave or audacity and start it recording, alt and tab back to your file and press enter, let it finish and then go back to the audio editor and stop it, you can then save this file in whatever format you want.
You must make sure that the audio editor is set to accept input from the internet.
Perhaps a bit long winded, but it will always work and I have done it on many occasions.
Best Regards, Jim.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question
 
In order to help, we need details.  What browser are you using?  When you press enter on the file, does it play in the browser or open another program?  Is the file actually referred to as a podcast?  We don't know, at this point, if the file is being played as it is fully downloaded into the browser or a player or if it is a stream that only plays part of the file, overwrites what it has played as it plays move.
 
Can you give the address of the page where the file link is?
Gene
 
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question
 

Hi gene

Your explanation is quite right. There isn’t any file to download but to play it on the website.

Regards

Anthony 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 24 February 2018 11:03
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

I discussed the file type briefly but my main point is that using the context menu will allow you to save files on some sites and not on others.  this is not related to the file type, it's how the site is constructed. 

 

We don't know, but my guess is that, in this case, Internet Explorer is being used and the file opens in Windows Media player, hence the question of how to save from there. 

 

In the context of other browsers, not the archaic Internet Explorer, the file is played in the browser when you press enter on the link.  If you are on a site where save target as or equivalent doesn't work, you need to know that you can use the command control s while the file is playing, and save it while in the browser in that way. 

 

Of course, that presupposes that you are dealing with an actual file that is playing from the site as a file, and not a stream.  The stream plays a little of a file and then refreshes the buffer in the browser or player but the entire file is never available.  Just a little bit ahead of where you are listening.  It can't be saved because it is a stream, not a file playing as a file from the web site.  Since this is called a podcast in the question, the odds are that it is an actual file being played from the web site, not a stream as I am using the word.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:29 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hello Gene,

 

If you  read my message again, I do say, “We don’t know what kind of file it is so can’t be specific”,

It’s worth a try anyway, if the original questioner could say exactly what podcast  is to be downloaded, that would be better.

As you rightly say,that is why you asked questions.

Best Regards, Jim.

 

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:57 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

That is one way you can save many files.  But it is important to know other ways as well.  Some sites don't support downloading files in that way.  That's why I asked questions such as whether the file opens in Windows media Player. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:51 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hello,

 

Pressing enter on the link will probably open it, if it’s to be downloaded, try the context menu, [key to the left of the right control key on a standard keyboard], you get options including maybe “save as” or “save target as”, this should bring up the normal save as dialogue and the file can be saved to a folder, from there it cvan be opened in a program such as Windows media player.

We don’t know what kindof file it is so can’t be specific, I hope this helps and good luck.

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

 

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:38 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

But when you press enter on the link, what happens?  Does it play In Media Player?  I believe someone described how to download a file such as a podcast playing in Windows Media Player.  But before that method is of any use to you, does the file open in the player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:15 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hi gene

It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

How are you getting to the podcast in the first place?  Is it playing in Media Player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM

Subject: [nvda] question

 

Hi folks

Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the internet using windows media player please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: question

Dzhovani
 

If it plays in a media player, most likely you have the file already downloaded on your computer. Open the searchbox or whatever it is called in Windows 10 and type:

%temp%

Check the folder that opens for a file with mp4 or waf or something like that. You might even have the name in the download list of your browser.

HTH,
Dzhovani

On 24.2.2018 г. 15:51, anthony borg wrote:

Yes it plays in media player when I hit enter on the link.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 23 February 2018 14:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

But when you press enter on the link, what happens?  Does it play In Media Player?  I believe someone described how to download a file such as a podcast playing in Windows Media Player.  But before that method is of any use to you, does the file open in the player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:15 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hi gene

It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

How are you getting to the podcast in the first place?  Is it playing in Media Player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM

Subject: [nvda] question

 

Hi folks

Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the internet using windows media player please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony



Re: question

Gene
 

Then, if I didn't suggest this yet, try the following:
When the file starts to play, issue the command control s.  If my recollection is correct, a save as dialog will come up and you would be able to save the file as you would in any standard save as dialog.  I believe that when you start to save the file, a dialog opens that shows things like the estimated time to completion.
 
If that doesn't work, the file probably isn't being presented in a way that it can be saved. 
 
Another option is to record the file as it plays.  You can let us know if you want to do that.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Yes it plays in media player when I hit enter on the link.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 23 February 2018 14:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

But when you press enter on the link, what happens?  Does it play In Media Player?  I believe someone described how to download a file such as a podcast playing in Windows Media Player.  But before that method is of any use to you, does the file open in the player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:15 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hi gene

It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

How are you getting to the podcast in the first place?  Is it playing in Media Player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM

Subject: [nvda] question

 

Hi folks

Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the internet using windows media player please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: question

Gene
 

In order to help, we need details.  What browser are you using?  When you press enter on the file, does it play in the browser or open another program?  Is the file actually referred to as a podcast?  We don't know, at this point, if the file is being played as it is fully downloaded into the browser or a player or if it is a stream that only plays part of the file, overwrites what it has played as it plays move.
 
Can you give the address of the page where the file link is?
Gene

Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Hi gene

Your explanation is quite right. There isn’t any file to download but to play it on the website.

Regards

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 24 February 2018 11:03
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

I discussed the file type briefly but my main point is that using the context menu will allow you to save files on some sites and not on others.  this is not related to the file type, it's how the site is constructed. 

 

We don't know, but my guess is that, in this case, Internet Explorer is being used and the file opens in Windows Media player, hence the question of how to save from there. 

 

In the context of other browsers, not the archaic Internet Explorer, the file is played in the browser when you press enter on the link.  If you are on a site where save target as or equivalent doesn't work, you need to know that you can use the command control s while the file is playing, and save it while in the browser in that way. 

 

Of course, that presupposes that you are dealing with an actual file that is playing from the site as a file, and not a stream.  The stream plays a little of a file and then refreshes the buffer in the browser or player but the entire file is never available.  Just a little bit ahead of where you are listening.  It can't be saved because it is a stream, not a file playing as a file from the web site.  Since this is called a podcast in the question, the odds are that it is an actual file being played from the web site, not a stream as I am using the word.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:29 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hello Gene,

 

If you  read my message again, I do say, “We don’t know what kind of file it is so can’t be specific”,

It’s worth a try anyway, if the original questioner could say exactly what podcast  is to be downloaded, that would be better.

As you rightly say,that is why you asked questions.

Best Regards, Jim.

 

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:57 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

That is one way you can save many files.  But it is important to know other ways as well.  Some sites don't support downloading files in that way.  That's why I asked questions such as whether the file opens in Windows media Player. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:51 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hello,

 

Pressing enter on the link will probably open it, if it’s to be downloaded, try the context menu, [key to the left of the right control key on a standard keyboard], you get options including maybe “save as” or “save target as”, this should bring up the normal save as dialogue and the file can be saved to a folder, from there it cvan be opened in a program such as Windows media player.

We don’t know what kindof file it is so can’t be specific, I hope this helps and good luck.

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

 

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:38 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

But when you press enter on the link, what happens?  Does it play In Media Player?  I believe someone described how to download a file such as a podcast playing in Windows Media Player.  But before that method is of any use to you, does the file open in the player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:15 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hi gene

It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

How are you getting to the podcast in the first place?  Is it playing in Media Player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM

Subject: [nvda] question

 

Hi folks

Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the internet using windows media player please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: question

anthony borg
 

Yes it plays in media player when I hit enter on the link.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 23 February 2018 14:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

But when you press enter on the link, what happens?  Does it play In Media Player?  I believe someone described how to download a file such as a podcast playing in Windows Media Player.  But before that method is of any use to you, does the file open in the player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:15 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hi gene

It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

How are you getting to the podcast in the first place?  Is it playing in Media Player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM

Subject: [nvda] question

 

Hi folks

Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the internet using windows media player please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: Blindspot is a windowless spotify

 

I tried using the new windows 10 app and there are still unlabeled buttons. And none of the check boxes anounce themselves so I may go back to BlindSpot. I'm honestly shocked they made some aspects of the program accessible. How in the world did that happen? LOL! Someone suggested I just use their mobile app. I still use a flip phone! I perfer to use my laptop and desktop for, well, everything else. I'm old school, I guess. There are active feature suggestions popping up so someone is working on it, somewhere! LOL.


Re: question

anthony borg
 

It’s the ncbi site.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 23 February 2018 17:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

What site is it on?

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony borg
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

Hi gene

It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

 

How are you getting to the podcast in the first place?  Is it playing in Media Player?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM

Subject: [nvda] question

 

Hi folks

Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the internet using windows media player please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: FW: [win10] Version 1709 and beyond: screen readers must support uIA notification event in order to announce various things from apps #winten1803 #advisory #winten1709

 

From what I have read, they lost her. I don't see her name on anything recent when I do a Google search. I'm not completely certain though and, yeah. I hear you. XP still is the best thing Microsoft created.


Re: Fw: [Nvda-devel] NVDA 2018.1rc1 released

anthony borg
 

What is that used for if I may ask rosemarie please?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 23 February 2018 17:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Fw: [Nvda-devel] NVDA 2018.1rc1 released

Hi, Brian,

I just downloaded itand so-far it's working great.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Fw: [Nvda-devel] NVDA 2018.1rc1 released

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Curran" <mick@nvaccess.org>
To: "NVDA screen reader development" <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>;
<nvda-translations@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:42 AM
Subject: [Nvda-devel] NVDA 2018.1rc1 released


Hi all,


NVDA 2018.1rc1 has just been released. This will be identical to the
2018.1 final release unless any critical bugs are found.


Blog post:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-1rc1-released-for-testing/


thanks

Mick


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