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Re: Teething Trouble

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Wilco,

Re punctuation, there are two different things here.  For writing, like you are asking about, as long as you have "Speak typed characters" on, NVDA should read whatever character you type.  You can toggle this setting either by pressing NVDA+2 (on the number row) or from the keyboard settings dialog with NVDA+control+k.  If you have speak typed Words set on (NVDA+3 or from the keyboard settings), when you press a full stop to end a sentence, NVDA will read the last word, and then if you haven't moved, it will read the full stop (or question mark etc).

For reading, you can adjust punctuation on the fly with NVDA+p.  You can also change it in the voice settings in NVDA's preferences by pressing either NVDA+control+v to go to that screen directly, or from the NVDA menu with NVDA+n then P for preferences then V for Voice settings.  There are four options, "None", "some", "most" or "all".   Note that when typing, NVDA will read typed characters (if speak typed characters is on) regardless of the punctuation level set.  Also with reading, and maybe this will help with your first question as well, is you can adjust what document formatting NVDA reads.  So for instance, you can set whether NVDA reports the colour and size of text, when you enter a table or change to a heading.  NVDA has a configuration profiles feature which lets you set these options individually for different programs.  So you might have different options read in Outlook vs Word vs Firefox for instance.

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 3:34 AM, Wilco <w.norman@...> wrote:

Hi Folks,

 

I’m new to NVDA, just trialling it for a bit to see how it measures up vs JAWS. I have a few queries that I’m hoping more experienced users might be able to help me out with.

 

1. Verbosity. This thing talks a lot, and doesn’t seem to have a global verbosity setting, is this right? In my outlook inbox for example, every time I cursor through my emails NVDA will announce those annoying grouping headings like ‘today’, ‘yesterday’ etc. JAWS glides straight past those without piping up, which does make for a smoother experience. Any thoughts?

 

2. It’s a minor problem, but NVDA doesn’t seem to announce punctuation when I am typing. I know you can change how it reads punctuation as you navigate, but how about when it comes to text entry? there’s just something unnerving about not hearing that you’ve remembered to slap a full stop on the end of your sentence.

 

3. The Eloquence for NVDA voice from Code Factory seems a bit buggy. It makes a weird popping and crackling sound all the time. The Vocaliser addon doesn’t seem to do it, but Eloquence is my weapon of choice. I’m only using the 7 day trial at the mo so that I can assess the synth alongside NVDA itself, but the crackling noises it makes are pretty annoying TBF.

 

Any thoughts on any of this would be most welcome, thanks.




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Re: windows defender false positive virus?

Sarah k Alawami
 

When this happened to me there was a details button. I hit that, then chose to exclude the file. This was several months ago so I don't know if thigns changed.

Take care

On Feb 27, 2018, at 1:55 PM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

Hello I am moving some stuff over from my usb drive to my downloads on my hard drive

windows defender is flagging a file that it is claiming that it is a virus when it is a false positive

how do I tell defender to allow the false positive using nvda? this is on windows10





Re: something strange in outlook

Gary Metzler
 

Hi Briam,

I noticed that when an outlook message has an imbedded object in it I get
the body of the message has changed error.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 12:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] something strange in outlook

I'm given to understand that the Word code is actually embedded in Outlook
stand alone code for those who got it separately.
Thus, I do not think its possible.

I think the call to look for shapes in office docs is going to be removed
for now till more can be found out about its strange other habits.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] something strange in outlook


Hi, Ralph,

I wonder if I could change the editing part to wordpad so I don't get that
strange message.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralf
Kefferpuetz
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 3:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] something strange in outlook

The editing part of Word is included in MS Outlook. No need to have MS
Word
installed.

Regards,
Ralf

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Sent: Montag, 26. Februar 2018 11:11
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Subject: Re: [nvda] something strange in outlook

If you don't have word, how can it use it? Wordpad. I use Jarte for
everyday
stuff and word if I need to see tables and page breaks etc.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] something strange in outlook


I think it does use word but I don't have microsoft word. I have wordpad.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 3:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] something strange in outlook

Now this is interesting. Is yours one of the versions of Outlook that
uses Word as its editor?
I get this all the time in word. I have a feeling its nvda hooking
into something making it think something has changed, for example. I
create a word document, I save it, I then go to exit word and it says
the text has changed do I want to save it again so to speak. Not every
time, but enough to be annoying.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 1:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] something strange in outlook


Hi, everyone,

Yesterday and today I noticed something different in outlook. When I
hit escape to get out of a message, I get a message saying that the
body of the message has changed and do I want to save it. I've never
seen this before.
Is there something I might need to change in either outlook or NVDA?

Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie


















windows defender false positive virus?

 

Hello I am moving some stuff over from my usb drive to my downloads on my hard drive

windows defender is flagging a file that it is claiming that it is a virus when it is a false positive

how do I tell defender to allow the false positive using nvda? this is on windows10


[NVDACon] Calling All Topics for NVDACon 2018

derek riemer
 


---------- Forwarded message ----------
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Date: Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 3:46 PM
Subject: [NVDACon] Calling All Topics for NVDACon 2018
To: intl@nvdacon.groups.io


https://www.nvdacon.org/2017/01/20/calling-all-topic-submissions

Hello:
The NVDACon International planning committee would like to invite you
all to submit topics for the upcoming conference. The conference will
be held in May or June of 2018. The date and agenda will be released
at a future time.
If you are a business, organization or individual that is passionate
about a topic related to accessibility, please submit your topic to us
by March 17th, 2018. If you have any questions, or would like to
submit a topic, please contact info@....
There are two types of talk available for NVDACon. A lightning talk is
a fifteen to twenty minute talk, and there will be two or three in a
session, with limited time available for questions. The second type of
talk is a full length session. These are usually an hour or an hour
and a half. These sessions are great for a much more in depth topic.
We are looking forward to your topic proposals.
Sincerely,
The NVDACon Team






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Re: something strange in outlook

Pascal Lambert
 

Hi All,
Please help! Here is another strange thing in Outlook! I am using Outlook Pro 2013. Suddenly I cannot click and open links within messages. I get a message "your general policy does not allow us to complete this action for you. Contact your help desk". This annoyance just started today. In Win7, I used to move up and enable links. In win10, I am unable to reach the upper part of the screen to check whether links are disabled.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mário Navarro
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] something strange in outlook


hi.


I don't think so.
the same also happens with the system and with the browsers.
laggy, and unstable.
cheers.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mário Navarro"
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] something strange in outlook




Hello.
also NVDA in the message lists of thunder bird, is slow and unstable.
NVDA 2018.RC1

in my opinion, NVDA is heavier with this release.
heavy and unstable.

cheers.
Às 01:53 de 25/02/2018, Sam Taylor escreveu:

It now occurs to me that this began to happen for me when I was
running betas a couple of weeks ago, and this behaviour has crept
into the NVDA RC1 build. It is an NVDA bug that is worth reporting.
Perhaps the Outlook message is somehow being modified. This doesn't
happen when an alternate screenreader is tested. Note that you need
to navigate past the first line of the message. Happy to report this
if nobody has done so.


On 25/02/2018 11:50, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi Rosemary,

I am having the same issue. I hope someone has an answer.

-----Original Message-----
From:nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 8:48 PM To:nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] something strange in outlook

Hi, everyone,

Yesterday and today I noticed something different in outlook. When
I hit escape to get out of a message, I get a message saying that
the body of the message has changed and do I want to save it. I've
never seen this before.
Is there something I might need to change in either outlook or NVDA?

Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie







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Re: Teething Trouble

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi,

 

I don't know about the other questions but I can tell you how to turn off "show in groups" in outlook.

 

1. Go to view with alt V.

2. Arrow down once to "current view".

3. Tab to "arrange by" and hit the space bar or enter on it.

4. Arrow down to "show in groups" and hit enter to uncheck it. There's a quicker way to do it but I'll have to look it up.

 

Hope this helps answer the first question.

 

Rosemarie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Wilco
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 8:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Teething Trouble

 

Hi Folks,

 

I’m new to NVDA, just trialling it for a bit to see how it measures up vs JAWS. I have a few queries that I’m hoping more experienced users might be able to help me out with.

 

1. Verbosity. This thing talks a lot, and doesn’t seem to have a global verbosity setting, is this right? In my outlook inbox for example, every time I cursor through my emails NVDA will announce those annoying grouping headings like ‘today’, ‘yesterday’ etc. JAWS glides straight past those without piping up, which does make for a smoother experience. Any thoughts?

 

2. It’s a minor problem, but NVDA doesn’t seem to announce punctuation when I am typing. I know you can change how it reads punctuation as you navigate, but how about when it comes to text entry? there’s just something unnerving about not hearing that you’ve remembered to slap a full stop on the end of your sentence.

 

3. The Eloquence for NVDA voice from Code Factory seems a bit buggy. It makes a weird popping and crackling sound all the time. The Vocaliser addon doesn’t seem to do it, but Eloquence is my weapon of choice. I’m only using the 7 day trial at the mo so that I can assess the synth alongside NVDA itself, but the crackling noises it makes are pretty annoying TBF.

 

Any thoughts on any of this would be most welcome, thanks.


Teething Trouble

Wilco
 

Hi Folks,

 

I’m new to NVDA, just trialling it for a bit to see how it measures up vs JAWS. I have a few queries that I’m hoping more experienced users might be able to help me out with.

 

1. Verbosity. This thing talks a lot, and doesn’t seem to have a global verbosity setting, is this right? In my outlook inbox for example, every time I cursor through my emails NVDA will announce those annoying grouping headings like ‘today’, ‘yesterday’ etc. JAWS glides straight past those without piping up, which does make for a smoother experience. Any thoughts?

 

2. It’s a minor problem, but NVDA doesn’t seem to announce punctuation when I am typing. I know you can change how it reads punctuation as you navigate, but how about when it comes to text entry? there’s just something unnerving about not hearing that you’ve remembered to slap a full stop on the end of your sentence.

 

3. The Eloquence for NVDA voice from Code Factory seems a bit buggy. It makes a weird popping and crackling sound all the time. The Vocaliser addon doesn’t seem to do it, but Eloquence is my weapon of choice. I’m only using the 7 day trial at the mo so that I can assess the synth alongside NVDA itself, but the crackling noises it makes are pretty annoying TBF.

 

Any thoughts on any of this would be most welcome, thanks.


Re: question

Gene
 

I didn't say the person should copy the address of the podcast itself.  I said he should copy the address of the page he is working on.  He's already on the page and I gave step-by-step instructions on how to do it.  There was no response, not even a message asking for help or saying he didn't understand the instructions. 
 
I'm not participating in the thread as a moderator.  Unless I state that I'm speaking as a moderator or I send a message that is clearly a moderation message, I'm participating as a member. 
 
I didn’t look at the site because I was waiting for the full address.  I could have looked but I expect a certain amount of effort from the person asking for help. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Have you actually looked at this webpage? I do use the internet and have much to learn,but this particular site is, as I said, not very blind friendly.
If you visit the site and give actuall instructions from that page, finding the podcast and copying it’s URL then maybe having a look at the site as a whole, perhaps you may change your opinion, you are a moderator, so shoot me down in flames, I am just defending someone who may not have the skills to even follow your instructions.
 
Some of the replies to this person have, in my humble opinion, been rather terse and maybe even rude. Maybe I am in a minority of one, so what’s new?
 
, Jim.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question
 
And because everyone isn't a whizzkid, I explained, giving every step, how to copy an address from a web page and paste it into the message.  There has been no response to my message.  This isn't just a skil that is important in instances like this.  It is important when you want to send something to someone in an e-mail message, such as a page with an article you want them to read.  It is a fundamental skill of Internet use.  There has been no response to my message.  When three people ask you for information and one of them gives a detailed step-by-step description of how to do it and when there is no response, I refuse to help further until some indication is given that the person is willing to learn how to provide information properly.  If this indication is given, if the person does it or says he doesn't understand how to do something I wrote, some sort of meaningful response, then I'll be happy to help again.  But not until then.  Part of asking for help is learning the proper way to provide information if you don't know how. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question
 
Hello,

Of course it would have been easier if we had the URL in the first
place, but, having visited the website, for a site perporting to be for
blind people, it is not very blind friendly, I think our friend who
first asked the question did very well to actually get the file to play.
All the suggestions have had their merits, but I think that it will be
more straightforward to just get it playing and then use an audio editor
to record it in real time.
Perhaps someone will look at the site and make it more blind friendly,
now that we have the site, step by step instructions would be helpful
for downloading an MP3 file, because I couldn't do this, why they are
buried deep in the site is beyond me.
finally, we should remember that not everyone is a wizz kid with
computers, including myself, surely this list is to help those who are
still learning, perhaps learning the basics, even if it is frustrating
at times. Let's hope we haven't put our friend off from asking questions
in future.



Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Antony Stone
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 11:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Do you realise how much easier it would have been for us to help you if
you
had simply told us the address of the page you are trying to download
the
podcast from?

I have found it intensely frustrating to see you answer every request
for the
address of the page with "It is the website of ncbi" or similar, even
after
people have told you this is not sufficiently clear or specific.

Antony.

On Tuesday 27 February 2018 at 11:55:42, anthony borg wrote:

> Thanks very much that you have managed to understand my problem.
> Because I have many times to find the mp3 but without any success.
> Regards
> Anthony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Antony
> Stone Sent: 26 February 2018 18:09
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] question
>
> If that really is the site Anthony's talking about (I await his
> confirmation), then there are MP3 URLs embedded in the source code of
> the
> podcast pages, and those URLs can be downloaded as offline-playable
> MP3s.
>
> Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a standard pattern for
> converting a
> podcast page URL to the corresponding MP3 download URL, but it's
> certainly
> possible to download the podcasts.
>
> I found the URLs by starting from a page with the player on it,
> pressing
> the Windows Context key (without any link focused) and then selecting
> "View Page Info" from the context menu which appears.  If you then
> move
> one icon to the right (from "General" to "Media"), you get a list of
> all
> the media links on the page, and one of them is the downloadable MP3.
>
>
> I hope that helps,
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Monday 26 February 2018 at 17:20:49, Hareth wrote:
> > I think this is the site He's talking about, It has an embedded web
> > audio player, so it needs other method to download podcast audio
> > file:
> > https://www.ncbi.ie/technology/
> >
> > TC
> >
> > On 2/26/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> > > Do you know how to go to the page you are working with,  copy the
> > > address from the actual page to the clip board, then paste it into
> > > a
> > > message? Just giving the name without a suffix such as org or com
> > > with
> > > the user not having any idea what it is is not sufficient.  Also,
> > > the
> > > user has no idea whether the podcast is on the home page or some
> > > other
> > > page.  If you don't know how to copy an address from the address
> > > bar
> > > of the browser you are using, let us know.  You are not giving
> > > sufficient information.
> > >
> > > Gene
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > From: anthony borg
> > > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 9:21 AM
> > > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > > Subject: Re: [nvda] question
> > >
> > >
> > > Ncbi technology
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > Rosemarie Chavarria
> > > Sent: 25 February 2018 19:42
> > > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > > Subject: Re: [nvda] question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What's the address for that site?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > anthony borg
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 5:49 AM
> > > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > > Subject: Re: [nvda] question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It's the ncbi site.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > Rosemarie Chavarria
> > > Sent: 23 February 2018 17:19
> > > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > > Subject: Re: [nvda] question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What site is it on?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > anthony borg
> > > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:15 AM
> > > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > > Subject: Re: [nvda] question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi gene
> > >
> > > It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in
> > > advance
> > >
> > > Anthony
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > Gene
> > > Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
> > > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > > Subject: Re: [nvda] question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How are you getting to the podcast in the first place?  Is it
> > > playing in Media Player?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gene
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > From: anthony borg
> > >
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM
> > >
> > > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > >
> > > Subject: [nvda] question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi folks
> > >
> > > Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the
> > > internet using windows media player please?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> > > Anthony
>
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Re: something strange in outlook

Mário Navarro
 

hi.


I don't think so.
the same also happens with the system and with the browsers.
 laggy, and unstable.
cheers.


Às 17:32 de 27/02/2018, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:

Could this be changes to help in Firefox Quantum do you feel?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mário Navarro" <mario.gnv@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] something strange in outlook




Hello.
also NVDA in the message lists of thunder bird, is slow and unstable.
NVDA 2018.RC1

in my opinion, NVDA is heavier with this release.
heavy and unstable.

cheers.
Às 01:53 de 25/02/2018, Sam Taylor escreveu:

It now occurs to me that this began to happen for me when I was
running betas a couple of weeks ago, and this behaviour has crept into
the NVDA RC1 build. It is an NVDA bug that is worth reporting. Perhaps
the Outlook message is somehow being modified. This doesn't happen
when an alternate screenreader is tested. Note that you need to
navigate past the first line of the message. Happy to report this if
nobody has done so.


On 25/02/2018 11:50, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi Rosemary,

I am having the same issue.  I hope someone has an answer.

-----Original Message-----
From:nvda@nvda.groups.io  [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 8:48 PM
To:nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] something strange in outlook

Hi, everyone,

Yesterday and today I noticed something different in outlook. When I hit
escape to get out of a message, I get a message saying that the body of the
message has changed and do I want to save it. I've never seen this before.
Is there something I might need to change in either outlook or NVDA?

Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie







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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 18.03A emergency patch released #addonrelease

 

One thing I have noticed, is that all teams in ms don't seem to always communicate to eachother.

So everyone does their own thing I am sure if it all was one thing somehow then it would work.

On 28/02/2018 6:15 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
This sounds like a situation of the only way the new bits will work is from the new builds, but until everyone has all the new stuff bits will not work.
I'm a little worried to note we are getting A Creators update Spring edition which is supposed to aid synchronisation of tasks between platforms like apple and Android as well.
You know the more I hear about has Microsoft policy the worse I feel about ever having stability again.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 5:52 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 18.03A emergency patch released #AddonRelease


Hi everyone,



First, for those who've reported issues with Windows 10 App Essentials
18.03: my sincere apologies. I have corrected the root problem (explained
below in detail). Due to something beyond my control, notification
announcements in newer apps in Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators
Update) will be restricted to NVDA 2018.1 and later.



Because of the regression, the add-on won't work (update feature won't
work). Thus, please manually install 18.03A via this link:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/download/18.03/wintenApps-18
.03A.nvda-addon



Also, for those using NVDA 2017.4 and happen to use development snapshots
for this add-on: you're also affected by this regression. The current
workaround is to manually apply 18.03A first, and NVDA will then check for
the emergency patch for today's development snapshot. Also, if you are using
NVDA 2017.4 and add-on dev snapshots, please report this kind of regression
ASAP, otherwise those using stable version will go through what they just
went through. Lastly, I'm not free from this mess: again, my apologies for
this mess in the first place.



Technical: NVDA 2017.4 uses older version of comtypes, a dependency used to
talk to COM (Component Object Model) routines. Also, it may have been built
with older Windows 10 SDK. As a result, UIA notification event and
associated routines are not included as part of that release. Thankfully,
NVDA 2018.1 does include newer version of the dependency and may have been
built with newer Windows 10 SDK release, thus UIA notification announcement
(and debugging routines) will work.



Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph




Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 18.03A emergency patch released #addonrelease

 

Ms is trying to play catch up big time brian.

I mean they said a release every few months, thats fine.

However with the death of windows mobile, they are trying to catch up with apple, well maybe apple is not as quick to catch up but android certainly is.

Look at apple and siri, ms is trying to become current as they can, and its hard to do so.

I do agree with things like skype but then ms has kept it no secret that they want us to use universal apps and have to their credit tried to get us to do that.

Sadly thats not really happened, I still find a lot of my desktop software better than universals ever will be and becides all the restrictions but there is no way for ms to inforce its choices on developers sadly.

As for windows being stable, windows is a service but yeah, things I do wish is ms not making another recovery partition, users shouldn't have to fiddle about with parted killing old partitions for recovery either ms need to do this or users need to find a way how to clear every recovery partition automatically which is not the laptop image or the current updated partition.

True every couple years you can reformat and I may even end up doing that I guess but I can't expect everyone else to do so.

On 28/02/2018 6:15 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
This sounds like a situation of the only way the new bits will work is from the new builds, but until everyone has all the new stuff bits will not work.
I'm a little worried to note we are getting A Creators update Spring edition which is supposed to aid synchronisation of tasks between platforms like apple and Android as well.
You know the more I hear about has Microsoft policy the worse I feel about ever having stability again.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 5:52 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 18.03A emergency patch released #AddonRelease


Hi everyone,



First, for those who've reported issues with Windows 10 App Essentials
18.03: my sincere apologies. I have corrected the root problem (explained
below in detail). Due to something beyond my control, notification
announcements in newer apps in Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators
Update) will be restricted to NVDA 2018.1 and later.



Because of the regression, the add-on won't work (update feature won't
work). Thus, please manually install 18.03A via this link:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/download/18.03/wintenApps-18
.03A.nvda-addon



Also, for those using NVDA 2017.4 and happen to use development snapshots
for this add-on: you're also affected by this regression. The current
workaround is to manually apply 18.03A first, and NVDA will then check for
the emergency patch for today's development snapshot. Also, if you are using
NVDA 2017.4 and add-on dev snapshots, please report this kind of regression
ASAP, otherwise those using stable version will go through what they just
went through. Lastly, I'm not free from this mess: again, my apologies for
this mess in the first place.



Technical: NVDA 2017.4 uses older version of comtypes, a dependency used to
talk to COM (Component Object Model) routines. Also, it may have been built
with older Windows 10 SDK. As a result, UIA notification event and
associated routines are not included as part of that release. Thankfully,
NVDA 2018.1 does include newer version of the dependency and may have been
built with newer Windows 10 SDK release, thus UIA notification announcement
(and debugging routines) will work.



Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph




Re: SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Well I have found it a good idea especially if the net connection is bad to clear the download folders contents in software distribution after closing windowsupdate service.

I had a system with a dead outdated wireless card and had to replace it to properly secure it.

I have had it though that people because they don't know an update will be coming may turn it off in the middle and so I have to be making sure when an update is up that I don't have people do this.

On 28/02/2018 4:03 a.m., Armando Maldonado wrote:
Issue installing latest Windows 10 updateHello, I was wondering, how does one create either a snapshot or select all tracks to create a playlist so you can in turn put it in a document like notepad? I guess Jaws has a feature with SPL where one can select the whole playlist and it will show the title, artist, how many minutes the song is, etc. Any help is appreciated, thanks.
Armando


Re: SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

So far, you’re the only one proposing this. I’ll wait for more comments before deciding what to do about it.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Thanks I'll see if I can figure this out. In the meantime, hipe this playlist thing comes through.

Armando

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:40 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

Okay, I think we’re walking on parallel roads…

In NVDA world, a gesture isn’t a touchscreen gesture. It is another term for commands. When people say “gesture” in this context, they refer to keyboard commands, touchscreen flicks, braille display commands and so on.

To change hotkeys (or gestures), go to NVDA menu/Preferences/Input Gestures. But you need to do this while in a context where you want to assign new gestures. In case of SPL Studio, you need to open this dialog while using Studio.

Once this dialog opens, go to a category for a command; in this case, StationPlaylist. Expand the category and look for the command you want to assign a hotkey. Select “add”, then press a key (or two) for this command, then select the keyboard layout for this command from the menu that appears. Then click OK and you’re done.

If you haven’t, I highly recommend reading the SPL add-on guide (not just the readme from the add-ons website):

https://github.com/josephsl/stationPlaylist/wiki/SPLAddonGuide

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

I don't use a touch screen so it has not worked for me, I don't see where or how to assign, and yes I did read the add-on description. thanks.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:23 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

Eh? Is SPL Assistant command working for you, and did you assign a hotkey to bring this up in the first place? If you haven’t, you need to assign a custom gesture for SPL Assistant command first before invoking commands from that layer.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello, that never worked for me, and I'm running latest build of Spl and such. Thanks.

Armando

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:50 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

I see. I have forwarded your initial question to NVDA SPL list so folks here and there can comment on it.

As for what this feature could look like, try Playlist Snapshots feature (SPL Assistant, F8) and see if you like it. If you do, then I’ll extend this feature to include playlist summary functionality once I get more comments regarding your question.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

That, I do not know.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:37 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

And you want to do it without arrowing through tracks (with report object descriptions turned on)? Isn’t there a logging feature built into Studio itself?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello,

Those of us who like to do show notes and include the songs played during a given show can benefit instead of trying to guess. In adition, I also use services like Mixcloud and by having this feature, this would make it easy for those who stream shows on mixcloud to see what's being played or at least have an idea. Thanks.

Armando

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:11 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

I’m assuming you’re referring to a feature in JAWS scripts for SPL where you can have JAWS copy playlist information to a file? I’d like to see at least one very good justification before implementing it in the NVDA add-on please.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello, I was wondering, how does one create either a snapshot or select all tracks to create a playlist so you can in turn put it in a document like notepad? I guess Jaws has a feature with SPL where one can select the whole playlist and it will show the title, artist, how many minutes the song is, etc. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Armando


Re: SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

Armando Maldonado
 

Thanks I'll see if I can figure this out. In the meantime, hipe this playlist thing comes through.
Armando

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

Hi,

Okay, I think we’re walking on parallel roads…

In NVDA world, a gesture isn’t a touchscreen gesture. It is another term for commands. When people say “gesture” in this context, they refer to keyboard commands, touchscreen flicks, braille display commands and so on.

To change hotkeys (or gestures), go to NVDA menu/Preferences/Input Gestures. But you need to do this while in a context where you want to assign new gestures. In case of SPL Studio, you need to open this dialog while using Studio.

Once this dialog opens, go to a category for a command; in this case, StationPlaylist. Expand the category and look for the command you want to assign a hotkey. Select “add”, then press a key (or two) for this command, then select the keyboard layout for this command from the menu that appears. Then click OK and you’re done.

If you haven’t, I highly recommend reading the SPL add-on guide (not just the readme from the add-ons website):

https://github.com/josephsl/stationPlaylist/wiki/SPLAddonGuide

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

I don't use a touch screen so it has not worked for me, I don't see where or how to assign, and yes I did read the add-on description. thanks.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:23 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

Eh? Is SPL Assistant command working for you, and did you assign a hotkey to bring this up in the first place? If you haven’t, you need to assign a custom gesture for SPL Assistant command first before invoking commands from that layer.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello, that never worked for me, and I'm running latest build of Spl and such. Thanks.

Armando

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:50 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

I see. I have forwarded your initial question to NVDA SPL list so folks here and there can comment on it.

As for what this feature could look like, try Playlist Snapshots feature (SPL Assistant, F8) and see if you like it. If you do, then I’ll extend this feature to include playlist summary functionality once I get more comments regarding your question.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

That, I do not know.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:37 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

And you want to do it without arrowing through tracks (with report object descriptions turned on)? Isn’t there a logging feature built into Studio itself?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello,

Those of us who like to do show notes and include the songs played during a given show can benefit instead of trying to guess. In adition, I also use services like Mixcloud and by having this feature, this would make it easy for those who stream shows on mixcloud to see what's being played or at least have an idea. Thanks.

Armando

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:11 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

I’m assuming you’re referring to a feature in JAWS scripts for SPL where you can have JAWS copy playlist information to a file? I’d like to see at least one very good justification before implementing it in the NVDA add-on please.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello, I was wondering, how does one create either a snapshot or select all tracks to create a playlist so you can in turn put it in a document like notepad? I guess Jaws has a feature with SPL where one can select the whole playlist and it will show the title, artist, how many minutes the song is, etc. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Armando


Re: SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

Okay, I think we’re walking on parallel roads…

In NVDA world, a gesture isn’t a touchscreen gesture. It is another term for commands. When people say “gesture” in this context, they refer to keyboard commands, touchscreen flicks, braille display commands and so on.

To change hotkeys (or gestures), go to NVDA menu/Preferences/Input Gestures. But you need to do this while in a context where you want to assign new gestures. In case of SPL Studio, you need to open this dialog while using Studio.

Once this dialog opens, go to a category for a command; in this case, StationPlaylist. Expand the category and look for the command you want to assign a hotkey. Select “add”, then press a key (or two) for this command, then select the keyboard layout for this command from the menu that appears. Then click OK and you’re done.

If you haven’t, I highly recommend reading the SPL add-on guide (not just the readme from the add-ons website):

https://github.com/josephsl/stationPlaylist/wiki/SPLAddonGuide

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

I don't use a touch screen so it has not worked for me, I don't see where or how to assign, and yes I did read the add-on description. thanks.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:23 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

Eh? Is SPL Assistant command working for you, and did you assign a hotkey to bring this up in the first place? If you haven’t, you need to assign a custom gesture for SPL Assistant command first before invoking commands from that layer.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello, that never worked for me, and I'm running latest build of Spl and such. Thanks.

Armando

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:50 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

I see. I have forwarded your initial question to NVDA SPL list so folks here and there can comment on it.

As for what this feature could look like, try Playlist Snapshots feature (SPL Assistant, F8) and see if you like it. If you do, then I’ll extend this feature to include playlist summary functionality once I get more comments regarding your question.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

That, I do not know.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:37 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

And you want to do it without arrowing through tracks (with report object descriptions turned on)? Isn’t there a logging feature built into Studio itself?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello,

Those of us who like to do show notes and include the songs played during a given show can benefit instead of trying to guess. In adition, I also use services like Mixcloud and by having this feature, this would make it easy for those who stream shows on mixcloud to see what's being played or at least have an idea. Thanks.

Armando

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:11 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

I’m assuming you’re referring to a feature in JAWS scripts for SPL where you can have JAWS copy playlist information to a file? I’d like to see at least one very good justification before implementing it in the NVDA add-on please.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello, I was wondering, how does one create either a snapshot or select all tracks to create a playlist so you can in turn put it in a document like notepad? I guess Jaws has a feature with SPL where one can select the whole playlist and it will show the title, artist, how many minutes the song is, etc. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Armando


Re: question

Sarah k Alawami
 

I guess I was one of the blest ones. I was board during my 8 hours of computer training I had as I learned everything with in about 2 hours. and after they left I practiced until the next set of 4. I actually taught someone sighted how to do the basic tings a few weeks later, was even typing someone's papers all be it not very fast. lol! but yea I must be blessed as computers for me are easy, notice I said computers, I did not say coding. that part is not.

Also keep in mind that person might not speak english so that might be an issue there as well, or they might just not want to follow instructions, in that we cannot help and in that I refuse to give any as well until they either do what I say or there's the door.

On Feb 27, 2018, at 9:37 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

It is difficult to know what level to talk to people at, as I do not consider myself expert, but do know about the address bar. This goes back to something our Moderator said some time ago. When folk are taught windows, they are in fact not taught it at all, they are given 'by wrote' things that do things commonly needed, with no info given on exactly what the logic is and what does what and when. One of the reasons I included controla in my description of the way to grab the address bar is that I have seen people assume all the fields are always highlighted or selected, and this is not the case. Also, it is all too easy to turn off the selection by accident.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "The Gamages via Groups.Io" <james.gamage=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


Hello,

Of course it would have been easier if we had the URL in the first
place, but, having visited the website, for a site perporting to be for
blind people, it is not very blind friendly, I think our friend who
first asked the question did very well to actually get the file to play.
All the suggestions have had their merits, but I think that it will be
more straightforward to just get it playing and then use an audio editor
to record it in real time.
Perhaps someone will look at the site and make it more blind friendly,
now that we have the site, step by step instructions would be helpful
for downloading an MP3 file, because I couldn't do this, why they are
buried deep in the site is beyond me.
finally, we should remember that not everyone is a wizz kid with
computers, including myself, surely this list is to help those who are
still learning, perhaps learning the basics, even if it is frustrating
at times. Let's hope we haven't put our friend off from asking questions
in future.



Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message----- From: Antony Stone
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 11:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Do you realise how much easier it would have been for us to help you if
you
had simply told us the address of the page you are trying to download
the
podcast from?

I have found it intensely frustrating to see you answer every request
for the
address of the page with "It is the website of ncbi" or similar, even
after
people have told you this is not sufficiently clear or specific.

Antony.

On Tuesday 27 February 2018 at 11:55:42, anthony borg wrote:

Thanks very much that you have managed to understand my problem.
Because I have many times to find the mp3 but without any success.
Regards
Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Antony
Stone Sent: 26 February 2018 18:09
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

If that really is the site Anthony's talking about (I await his
confirmation), then there are MP3 URLs embedded in the source code of
the
podcast pages, and those URLs can be downloaded as offline-playable
MP3s.

Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a standard pattern for
converting a
podcast page URL to the corresponding MP3 download URL, but it's
certainly
possible to download the podcasts.

I found the URLs by starting from a page with the player on it,
pressing
the Windows Context key (without any link focused) and then selecting
"View Page Info" from the context menu which appears. If you then
move
one icon to the right (from "General" to "Media"), you get a list of
all
the media links on the page, and one of them is the downloadable MP3.


I hope that helps,


Antony.

On Monday 26 February 2018 at 17:20:49, Hareth wrote:
I think this is the site He's talking about, It has an embedded web
audio player, so it needs other method to download podcast audio
file:
https://www.ncbi.ie/technology/

TC

On 2/26/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Do you know how to go to the page you are working with, copy the
address from the actual page to the clip board, then paste it into
a
message? Just giving the name without a suffix such as org or com
with
the user not having any idea what it is is not sufficient. Also,
the
user has no idea whether the podcast is on the home page or some
other
page. If you don't know how to copy an address from the address
bar
of the browser you are using, let us know. You are not giving
sufficient information.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


Ncbi technology



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 25 February 2018 19:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question



What's the address for that site?







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Of
anthony borg
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 5:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question



It's the ncbi site.



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Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 23 February 2018 17:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question



What site is it on?







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Of
anthony borg
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question



Hi gene

It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in
advance

Anthony



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Of
Gene
Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question



How are you getting to the podcast in the first place? Is it
playing in Media Player?



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] question



Hi folks

Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the
internet using windows media player please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony
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Re: SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

Armando Maldonado
 

I don't use a touch screen so it has not worked for me, I don't see where or how to assign, and yes I did read the add-on description. thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

Hi,

Eh? Is SPL Assistant command working for you, and did you assign a hotkey to bring this up in the first place? If you haven’t, you need to assign a custom gesture for SPL Assistant command first before invoking commands from that layer.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello, that never worked for me, and I'm running latest build of Spl and such. Thanks.

Armando

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:50 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

I see. I have forwarded your initial question to NVDA SPL list so folks here and there can comment on it.

As for what this feature could look like, try Playlist Snapshots feature (SPL Assistant, F8) and see if you like it. If you do, then I’ll extend this feature to include playlist summary functionality once I get more comments regarding your question.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

That, I do not know.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:37 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

And you want to do it without arrowing through tracks (with report object descriptions turned on)? Isn’t there a logging feature built into Studio itself?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello,

Those of us who like to do show notes and include the songs played during a given show can benefit instead of trying to guess. In adition, I also use services like Mixcloud and by having this feature, this would make it easy for those who stream shows on mixcloud to see what's being played or at least have an idea. Thanks.

Armando

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:11 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

I’m assuming you’re referring to a feature in JAWS scripts for SPL where you can have JAWS copy playlist information to a file? I’d like to see at least one very good justification before implementing it in the NVDA add-on please.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello, I was wondering, how does one create either a snapshot or select all tracks to create a playlist so you can in turn put it in a document like notepad? I guess Jaws has a feature with SPL where one can select the whole playlist and it will show the title, artist, how many minutes the song is, etc. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Armando


Re: SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

Eh? Is SPL Assistant command working for you, and did you assign a hotkey to bring this up in the first place? If you haven’t, you need to assign a custom gesture for SPL Assistant command first before invoking commands from that layer.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello, that never worked for me, and I'm running latest build of Spl and such. Thanks.

Armando

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:50 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

I see. I have forwarded your initial question to NVDA SPL list so folks here and there can comment on it.

As for what this feature could look like, try Playlist Snapshots feature (SPL Assistant, F8) and see if you like it. If you do, then I’ll extend this feature to include playlist summary functionality once I get more comments regarding your question.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

That, I do not know.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:37 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

And you want to do it without arrowing through tracks (with report object descriptions turned on)? Isn’t there a logging feature built into Studio itself?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello,

Those of us who like to do show notes and include the songs played during a given show can benefit instead of trying to guess. In adition, I also use services like Mixcloud and by having this feature, this would make it easy for those who stream shows on mixcloud to see what's being played or at least have an idea. Thanks.

Armando

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:11 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

I’m assuming you’re referring to a feature in JAWS scripts for SPL where you can have JAWS copy playlist information to a file? I’d like to see at least one very good justification before implementing it in the NVDA add-on please.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello, I was wondering, how does one create either a snapshot or select all tracks to create a playlist so you can in turn put it in a document like notepad? I guess Jaws has a feature with SPL where one can select the whole playlist and it will show the title, artist, how many minutes the song is, etc. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Armando


Re: SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

Armando Maldonado
 

Hello, that never worked for me, and I'm running latest build of Spl and such. Thanks.
Armando

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

Hi,

I see. I have forwarded your initial question to NVDA SPL list so folks here and there can comment on it.

As for what this feature could look like, try Playlist Snapshots feature (SPL Assistant, F8) and see if you like it. If you do, then I’ll extend this feature to include playlist summary functionality once I get more comments regarding your question.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

That, I do not know.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:37 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

And you want to do it without arrowing through tracks (with report object descriptions turned on)? Isn’t there a logging feature built into Studio itself?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello,

Those of us who like to do show notes and include the songs played during a given show can benefit instead of trying to guess. In adition, I also use services like Mixcloud and by having this feature, this would make it easy for those who stream shows on mixcloud to see what's being played or at least have an idea. Thanks.

Armando

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:11 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hi,

I’m assuming you’re referring to a feature in JAWS scripts for SPL where you can have JAWS copy playlist information to a file? I’d like to see at least one very good justification before implementing it in the NVDA add-on please.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] SPL and NVDA, getting a list of tracks for playlist

 

Hello, I was wondering, how does one create either a snapshot or select all tracks to create a playlist so you can in turn put it in a document like notepad? I guess Jaws has a feature with SPL where one can select the whole playlist and it will show the title, artist, how many minutes the song is, etc. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Armando