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Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

It always depends on the quality of the image, sadly. I have played with contrast, grey scale and all sorts and in the end if its a clean crisp thing with few font changes or bold italics or size changes or column alterations most are fine. After that all bets are off.
I now tend to send docs back to suppliers and ask for a doc not a pdf of the text itself. I really do not know what they are doing that makes them so poor unless some idiot prints them then sacans them back in which seems to be a pretty pointless thing to do!
Brian

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From: "Blee Blat" <bleeblat@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation


Yes, I'd thought about that. That's the reason I didn't get one of the ones that works on the phone. If you send it for processing, who knows what happens to your image? Getting a good scan with a phone camera takes a bit of work too, I have found, though I can make it work. The last time I tried OCR though, which was the built-in Windows 10 one, on a scanned PDF, it made a complete mess of the output.


Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation

bob jutzi <jutzi1@...>
 

Not sure what it sells for now, but for my use, the KNFB reader app is great which I use along with NVDA.

On 3/1/2018 12:43 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I am told that knfb reader is now available for windows pcs, though have not tried it as it only works in 10, and I seem to recall if you have it for one platform its cheaper for another but its been a while since I looked. Other than that, what about the Cloud ocr Microsoft seem to be always talking about?
I don't know much about it as I'm using omnipage on a cannon and have used abbey, which althoug OK does seem to have issues ith i and l making my friend della into delia and new maldent high street into new maiden high street.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 11:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

Hi everyone,

I've got a query about a standalone scanner. Is the OCR software which
comes with any of the scanners such as Epson or Canon accessible (or even
have an accessible Word plugin), or which third-party OCR would be worth
considering?

I've personally used Omnipage and Abbyy in the past, and also had a scanner
with an OCR plugin for Word that worked well, even though the main software
wasn't great, but I haven't looked at anything recently to recommend.

Kind regards

Quentin.

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Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

On a recent test, I found that a rostrum camera was actually better than a scanner most of the time.
Brian

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From: "Blee Blat" <bleeblat@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation


I was wondering the same thing. I currently have a phone and computer but not a standalone scanner. How good is OCR these days? Should I get a scanner for things like legal documents and other important stuff. I don't always have people handy to read things. What's the most accurate software anyway? Is there something reasonably portable?




Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I am told that knfb reader is now available for windows pcs, though have not tried it as it only works in 10, and I seem to recall if you have it for one platform its cheaper for another but its been a while since I looked. Other than that, what about the Cloud ocr Microsoft seem to be always talking about?
I don't know much about it as I'm using omnipage on a cannon and have used abbey, which althoug OK does seem to have issues ith i and l making my friend della into delia and new maldent high street into new maiden high street.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 11:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation


Hi everyone,

I've got a query about a standalone scanner. Is the OCR software which
comes with any of the scanners such as Epson or Canon accessible (or even
have an accessible Word plugin), or which third-party OCR would be worth
considering?

I've personally used Omnipage and Abbyy in the past, and also had a scanner
with an OCR plugin for Word that worked well, even though the main software
wasn't great, but I haven't looked at anything recently to recommend.

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
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Re: NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome

marvin kotler
 

                                This is marv here.  You might try the f5 key for page refresh; this clears up this issue sometimes.

 

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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 9:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome

 

Funny this. I had this happen just now in an older firefox, but on a restart

of nvda all went back to normal.

I was using the latest master at the time.

 

Something odd in javascript perhaps?

Brian

 

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From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 5:12 PM

Subject: [nvda] NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome

 

 

Hello

If I go to paypal.com with latest NVDA and also the firefox download site

does the same thing, nvda2018.1 rc1. It briefly shows the links and stuff

and then when I arrow up and down, it just gets stuck on send money, no

links, no nothing. Is there something wrong with chrome and the latest nvda?

Also same thing with firefox. I had to use edge to get the latest firefox

because chrome got stuck on the download firefox words, no links showed  on

the site. They show for a very brief time then disappear. What could be

going on?

 

Josh

 

 

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Re: NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Funny this. I had this happen just now in an older firefox, but on a restart of nvda all went back to normal.
I was using the latest master at the time.

Something odd in javascript perhaps?
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 5:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome


Hello
If I go to paypal.com with latest NVDA and also the firefox download site does the same thing, nvda2018.1 rc1. It briefly shows the links and stuff and then when I arrow up and down, it just gets stuck on send money, no links, no nothing. Is there something wrong with chrome and the latest nvda? Also same thing with firefox. I had to use edge to get the latest firefox because chrome got stuck on the download firefox words, no links showed on the site. They show for a very brief time then disappear. What could be going on?

Josh


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Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

That’s good to hear. This would be version 14, then? That appears to be the latest.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: March 1, 2018 12:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

 

Hi,

 

I am not Rick but, I am using the current version of abby and it works quite well.  I hope this helps.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 10:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

 

HI.

 

You remind me here that I have been interested in this program for some time.

 

You say you are using an older version (11). What do you know about the current available versions? Perhaps, from an accessibility standpoint, specifically. I suppose if I were to buy the program, I would be getting the latest version, so before that happens, I’d want to make sure it works as well as yours does, you know?

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: February 28, 2018 7:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

 

Evening, or at least here in New England it is.

I have been using Abby FineReader for years. It is my original version 11 and it is running well under Windows 10. Right now my scanner is part of my Cannon printer, and though a one page at a time model, it serves very well. Abby is remarkably accurate and will scan to a wide variety of formats including Word, Excel and Epic.

 

One of the little things I like about it is that when installed, it adds itself to the context menu. Find a PDF file , hit the context key, arrow down to Abby and press the right arrow to view the options of formats you can convert to. Press the enter key and Abby opens and converts the file and then opens it in the correct app.

The only change I would make right now is to move to a scanner with a document feeder. I am also serious about moving up several generations of Abby.

Honestly I owe Abby the purchase of a newer version. Over the years with several major crashes, support has been quick and clear and restoration was very simple.

Good luck finding a solution that works, does not require fifty key presses and most important does not cost too much. I am a firm believer in an application that does a single job, but does it very well.

 

As for OCR on an iPad, if you have not tried Seeing AI, it is quite  a program, with a variety of  functions and if is free on the Appstore. Interestingly it was developed and is well maintained by Microsoft.

 

Disclaimer here: I do not work for Abby nor do I sell any of their products. Feel free to contact me off list if I can be of help, or just ask questions here.

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 6:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've got a query about a standalone scanner.  Is the OCR software which comes with any of the scanners such as Epson or Canon accessible (or even have an accessible Word plugin), or which third-party OCR would be worth considering?

 

I've personally used Omnipage and Abbyy in the past, and also had a scanner with an OCR plugin for Word that worked well, even though the main software wasn't great, but I haven't looked at anything recently to recommend.

 

Kind regards


Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
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Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation

Gary Metzler
 

Hi,

 

I am not Rick but, I am using the current version of abby and it works quite well.  I hope this helps.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 10:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

 

HI.

 

You remind me here that I have been interested in this program for some time.

 

You say you are using an older version (11). What do you know about the current available versions? Perhaps, from an accessibility standpoint, specifically. I suppose if I were to buy the program, I would be getting the latest version, so before that happens, I’d want to make sure it works as well as yours does, you know?

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: February 28, 2018 7:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

 

Evening, or at least here in New England it is.

I have been using Abby FineReader for years. It is my original version 11 and it is running well under Windows 10. Right now my scanner is part of my Cannon printer, and though a one page at a time model, it serves very well. Abby is remarkably accurate and will scan to a wide variety of formats including Word, Excel and Epic.

 

One of the little things I like about it is that when installed, it adds itself to the context menu. Find a PDF file , hit the context key, arrow down to Abby and press the right arrow to view the options of formats you can convert to. Press the enter key and Abby opens and converts the file and then opens it in the correct app.

The only change I would make right now is to move to a scanner with a document feeder. I am also serious about moving up several generations of Abby.

Honestly I owe Abby the purchase of a newer version. Over the years with several major crashes, support has been quick and clear and restoration was very simple.

Good luck finding a solution that works, does not require fifty key presses and most important does not cost too much. I am a firm believer in an application that does a single job, but does it very well.

 

As for OCR on an iPad, if you have not tried Seeing AI, it is quite  a program, with a variety of  functions and if is free on the Appstore. Interestingly it was developed and is well maintained by Microsoft.

 

Disclaimer here: I do not work for Abby nor do I sell any of their products. Feel free to contact me off list if I can be of help, or just ask questions here.

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 6:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've got a query about a standalone scanner.  Is the OCR software which comes with any of the scanners such as Epson or Canon accessible (or even have an accessible Word plugin), or which third-party OCR would be worth considering?

 

I've personally used Omnipage and Abbyy in the past, and also had a scanner with an OCR plugin for Word that worked well, even though the main software wasn't great, but I haven't looked at anything recently to recommend.

 

Kind regards


Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Input not working with Braille Sense

Rob Hudson
 

Here I have a braille sense Qwerty. It is connected via bluetooth. The screen reader is NVDA 2017.4.
Input is not working. I seem to recall something about a missing DLL file but the information is so vague in my mind that I don't know how to properly search the archives for it.
Any help?


Re: nvda paypal and chrome

Felix G.
 

Confirmed. Seeing the same with both NVDA and JAWS.
Best,
Felix

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> schrieb am Mi., 28. Feb. 2018 um 18:41 Uhr:

Hi

I tried with jaws. Same thing. Page shows up, then a few seconds later, no links no nothing but the send money words line. Looks like this may be a chrome issue.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: question about automatic language switching

Afik Suffir <afik.sofir@...>
 

What do you mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 6:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question about automatic language switching

You can select between French and English for latin languages...

Vocalizer for NVDA alone can not choose the appropriate language inside the same group of languages...

Rui Fontes


Às 15:38 de 01/03/2018, Afik Suffir escreveu:
b.h

hi. I have vocalizer for nvda installed, with Hebrew, English and
French. When the synthesizer ditect French text, its read it in the
English voice, Ava. Any help will be appreciated


Re: question

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

You're still not giving the address of the site and we've asked you for it numerous times.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony borg
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 12:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

It is the website of the NCBI.
Apologies if I'm not very understandable.
Thanks in advance

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Antony Stone
Sent: 27 February 2018 12:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Do you realise how much easier it would have been for us to help you if you had simply told us the address of the page you are trying to download the podcast from?

I have found it intensely frustrating to see you answer every request for the address of the page with "It is the website of ncbi" or similar, even after people have told you this is not sufficiently clear or specific.

Antony.

On Tuesday 27 February 2018 at 11:55:42, anthony borg wrote:

Thanks very much that you have managed to understand my problem.
Because I have many times to find the mp3 but without any success.
Regards
Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Antony Stone Sent: 26 February 2018 18:09
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

If that really is the site Anthony's talking about (I await his
confirmation), then there are MP3 URLs embedded in the source code of
the podcast pages, and those URLs can be downloaded as offline-playable MP3s.

Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a standard pattern for
converting a podcast page URL to the corresponding MP3 download URL,
but it's certainly possible to download the podcasts.

I found the URLs by starting from a page with the player on it,
pressing the Windows Context key (without any link focused) and then
selecting "View Page Info" from the context menu which appears. If
you then move one icon to the right (from "General" to "Media"), you
get a list of all the media links on the page, and one of them is the downloadable MP3.


I hope that helps,


Antony.

On Monday 26 February 2018 at 17:20:49, Hareth wrote:
I think this is the site He's talking about, It has an embedded web
audio player, so it needs other method to download podcast audio file:
https://www.ncbi.ie/technology/

TC

On 2/26/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Do you know how to go to the page you are working with, copy the
address from the actual page to the clip board, then paste it into
a message? Just giving the name without a suffix such as org or
com with the user not having any idea what it is is not
sufficient. Also, the user has no idea whether the podcast is on
the home page or some other page. If you don't know how to copy
an address from the address bar of the browser you are using, let
us know. You are not giving sufficient information.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


Ncbi technology



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 25 February 2018 19:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question



What's the address for that site?







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of anthony borg
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 5:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question



It's the ncbi site.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 23 February 2018 17:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question



What site is it on?







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of anthony borg
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question



Hi gene

It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in
advance

Anthony



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Gene
Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question



How are you getting to the podcast in the first place? Is it
playing in Media Player?



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] question



Hi folks

Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the
internet using windows media player please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony
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Re: question about automatic language switching

Rui Fontes
 

You can select between French and English for latin languages...

Vocalizer for NVDA alone can not choose the appropriate language inside the same group of languages...

Rui Fontes


Às 15:38 de 01/03/2018, Afik Suffir escreveu:

b.h
hi. I have vocalizer for nvda installed, with Hebrew, English and French. When the synthesizer ditect French text, its read it in the English voice, Ava. Any help will  be appreciated


Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation

bob jutzi <jutzi1@...>
 

I'm using the new KNFB Windows 10 app which I bought when discounted to $19 US and love it. I used ABBYY 12 but since I'm always trying out new system environments I grew weary of frequently needing to have an Activation reset.
I'm reinstalling on the only computer I have so don't see why they can't come up with a method of restoring from a license file. This option does exist; however I didn't have any luck activating.

On 3/1/2018 11:25 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
FineReader 12 is more accessible than 14.
There are not fineReader 13...
Rui
Às 15:48 de 01/03/2018, JM Casey escreveu:
HI.

You remind me here that I have been interested in this program for some time.

You say you are using an older version (11). What do you know about the current available versions? Perhaps, from an accessibility standpoint, specifically. I suppose if I were to buy the program, I would be getting the latest version, so before that happens, I’d want to make sure it works as well as yours does, you know?

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *ely.r@comcast.net
*Sent:* February 28, 2018 7:46 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

Evening, or at least here in New England it is.

I have been using Abby FineReader for years. It is my original version 11 and it is running well under Windows 10. Right now my scanner is part of my Cannon printer, and though a one page at a time model, it serves very well. Abby is remarkably accurate and will scan to a wide variety of formats including Word, Excel and Epic.

One of the little things I like about it is that when installed, it adds itself to the context menu. Find a PDF file , hit the context key, arrow down to Abby and press the right arrow to view the options of formats you can convert to. Press the enter key and Abby opens and converts the file and then opens it in the correct app.

The only change I would make right now is to move to a scanner with a document feeder. I am also serious about moving up several generations of Abby.

Honestly I owe Abby the purchase of a newer version. Over the years with several major crashes, support has been quick and clear and restoration was very simple.

Good luck finding a solution that works, does not require fifty key presses and most important does not cost too much. I am a firm believer in an application that does a single job, but does it very well.

As for OCR on an iPad, if you have not tried Seeing AI, it is quite a program, with a variety of functions and if is free on the Appstore. Interestingly it was developed and is well maintained by Microsoft.

Disclaimer here: I do not work for Abby nor do I sell any of their products. Feel free to contact me off list if I can be of help, or just ask questions here.

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413() 727-3038

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 28, 2018 6:29 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

Hi everyone,

I've got a query about a standalone scanner. Is the OCR software which comes with any of the scanners such as Epson or Canon accessible (or even have an accessible Word plugin), or which third-party OCR would be worth considering?

I've personally used Omnipage and Abbyy in the past, and also had a scanner with an OCR plugin for Word that worked well, even though the main software wasn't great, but I haven't looked at anything recently to recommend.

Kind regards


Quentin.

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>;

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Hey.

Thanks for this information. How much of an obstacle do you find AFR 14 accessibility? I noticed that they, perhaps unsurprisingly, do not sell versions older than 14 on their site.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: March 1, 2018 11:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

FineReader 12 is more accessible than 14.
There are not fineReader 13...

Rui


Às 15:48 de 01/03/2018, JM Casey escreveu:
HI.

You remind me here that I have been interested in this program for
some time.

You say you are using an older version (11). What do you know about
the current available versions? Perhaps, from an accessibility
standpoint, specifically. I suppose if I were to buy the program, I
would be getting the latest version, so before that happens, I’d want
to make sure it works as well as yours does, you know?

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*ely.r@comcast.net
*Sent:* February 28, 2018 7:46 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

Evening, or at least here in New England it is.

I have been using Abby FineReader for years. It is my original version
11 and it is running well under Windows 10. Right now my scanner is
part of my Cannon printer, and though a one page at a time model, it
serves very well. Abby is remarkably accurate and will scan to a wide
variety of formats including Word, Excel and Epic.

One of the little things I like about it is that when installed, it
adds itself to the context menu. Find a PDF file , hit the context
key, arrow down to Abby and press the right arrow to view the options
of formats you can convert to. Press the enter key and Abby opens and
converts the file and then opens it in the correct app.

The only change I would make right now is to move to a scanner with a
document feeder. I am also serious about moving up several generations
of Abby.

Honestly I owe Abby the purchase of a newer version. Over the years
with several major crashes, support has been quick and clear and
restoration was very simple.

Good luck finding a solution that works, does not require fifty key
presses and most important does not cost too much. I am a firm
believer in an application that does a single job, but does it very well.

As for OCR on an iPad, if you have not tried Seeing AI, it is quite a
program, with a variety of functions and if is free on the Appstore.
Interestingly it was developed and is well maintained by Microsoft.

Disclaimer here: I do not work for Abby nor do I sell any of their
products. Feel free to contact me off list if I can be of help, or
just ask questions here.

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413() 727-3038

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 28, 2018 6:29 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

Hi everyone,

I've got a query about a standalone scanner. Is the OCR software
which comes with any of the scanners such as Epson or Canon accessible
(or even have an accessible Word plugin), or which third-party OCR
would be worth considering?

I've personally used Omnipage and Abbyy in the past, and also had a
scanner with an OCR plugin for Word that worked well, even though the
main software wasn't great, but I haven't looked at anything recently
to recommend.

Kind regards


Quentin.

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Re: where to find nvda tutorials

 

Hi,

www.josephsl.net/tutorials

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marisane Moruthanyana
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 8:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] where to find nvda tutorials

 

Morning Joseph

 

I am Marisane from SA.

 

I tried to visit your website, i.e. http://www.josephsl.net, but am not able to see the content on the website.

 

How do I see it?

 

Besides, where to find the tutorials?

 

Your assistance is appreciated in advance.

 

Marisane


Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation

Rui Fontes
 

FineReader 12 is more accessible than 14.
There are not fineReader 13...

Rui


Às 15:48 de 01/03/2018, JM Casey escreveu:

HI.
You remind me here that I have been interested in this program for some time.
You say you are using an older version (11). What do you know about the current available versions? Perhaps, from an accessibility standpoint, specifically. I suppose if I were to buy the program, I would be getting the latest version, so before that happens, I’d want to make sure it works as well as yours does, you know?
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *ely.r@comcast.net
*Sent:* February 28, 2018 7:46 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation
Evening, or at least here in New England it is.
I have been using Abby FineReader for years. It is my original version 11 and it is running well under Windows 10. Right now my scanner is part of my Cannon printer, and though a one page at a time model, it serves very well. Abby is remarkably accurate and will scan to a wide variety of formats including Word, Excel and Epic.
One of the little things I like about it is that when installed, it adds itself to the context menu. Find a PDF file , hit the context key, arrow down to Abby and press the right arrow to view the options of formats you can convert to. Press the enter key and Abby opens and converts the file and then opens it in the correct app.
The only change I would make right now is to move to a scanner with a document feeder. I am also serious about moving up several generations of Abby.
Honestly I owe Abby the purchase of a newer version. Over the years with several major crashes, support has been quick and clear and restoration was very simple.
Good luck finding a solution that works, does not require fifty key presses and most important does not cost too much. I am a firm believer in an application that does a single job, but does it very well.
As for OCR on an iPad, if you have not tried Seeing AI, it is quite  a program, with a variety of  functions and if is free on the Appstore. Interestingly it was developed and is well maintained by Microsoft.
Disclaimer here: I do not work for Abby nor do I sell any of their products. Feel free to contact me off list if I can be of help, or just ask questions here.
Rick
Dr. Rick Ely
TVI, Vision Consultant
451 Rocky Hill Road
Florence, MA 01062
&413()  727-3038
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 28, 2018 6:29 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation
Hi everyone,
I've got a query about a standalone scanner.  Is the OCR software which comes with any of the scanners such as Epson or Canon accessible (or even have an accessible Word plugin), or which third-party OCR would be worth considering?
I've personally used Omnipage and Abbyy in the past, and also had a scanner with an OCR plugin for Word that worked well, even though the main software wasn't great, but I haven't looked at anything recently to recommend.
Kind regards
Quentin.
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>;
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: question

Hareth
 

Its the same app, the interface options and menu are similar.
the one you've posted is the portable, and the other is full installed version.

On 3/1/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I wonder how similar it is to the program I gave a link to. That program
was developed by Carlos, who ran a list and unexpectedly and very
unfortunately died recently. He wanted to make a very simple recording
program with a loop back ability for blind people to use and he added a
Windows GUI to what was a command line program.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Hareth
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 4:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


its the official source forge page of virtual recorder before the
developer changed it into a screen capture recorder sometime back
2014.
So its the same program installer version.
BTW it saves the recording to the documents / virtual recorder folder.

On 3/1/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
What programs does this work with. You don't need it with the program I
sent information about.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Hareth
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 4:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


Gene,
Here is the source forge page of the installer app,
find the link that say's:
setup Virtual Audio Capture Grabber v0.4.6.exe
that's the download link
Just encase if you don't have it, or anyone else needs it.

Best

On 3/1/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
The recorder is a portable version. Extract the zip files, and then,
when
you are in the folder where the files of the program are, find the
virtual
recorder.exe file and press enter on it. When you open the folder,
typing
the letter v once will take you to the file.

When the program opens, tab around to the field with the word "device as
the
description. Up and down arrow until you find the what you hear option.
That is the setting you want. It will be remembered so you don't have
to
set it again when you open the program. You will see obvious buttons
such
as reccord. Use the space bar on the buttons. The file you are
recording
is in the folder where the program files are. I believe it is named
recording.mp3. Be sure to move the file where you want it after you
record
it and tchange the name either before or after moving. You can't listen
to
the file using the program. You can play the file in any player that
can
play MP3 files. You can't edit with the program either. If you want to
edit, you will have to use a different program. But this is a very
simple
program that will record anything you hear when your sound card plays.

You can download the zip file by following this link:
http://opopanax.net/download/Virtual_Recorder_Portable.zip

Gene.
----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 2:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


Yes please, if you can send me the info either on the list or privately
here
is my mail address.

Anthonyborg001@gmail.com ".

Regards



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 28 February 2018 11:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question



And the next time you want to keep something, you won't know how. I
would
advise getting the very simple program I discussed here, virtual
recorder,
and trying it. There is a specific version I would advise using. I'll
send
information if you ask.



and if you ever are corresponding with someone and want to send them a
link
to an article, a product, or whatever the case, you evidently won't know
how. This is a fundamental Internet skill. I'm not particularly
concerned
with you saving this particular podcast unless you are, but there are
certain skills and knowledge you are not learning as a result of no
longer
pursuing the matter. The Internet address copy and paste knowledge is
important in general. Recording using a program like Virtual Recorder
is
important if you want to record material that can't be saved.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 8:24 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] question



Hi rosemarie
Don't worry any more about it as it isn' of a great importance.
Sorry for the trouble I might giving you all.
Best regards
Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 28 February 2018 00:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

No, it doesn't! I'm agrivated with you as I'm sure others are too! I'm
done!



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
anthony
borg
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Hi rosemarie,
It is the website of ncbi.
I hope this will help.
Thanks in advance
Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 26 February 2018 22:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

but from what site? Give us the actual address--not just that it's a
technology site. You're not helping us.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
anthony
borg
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 7:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

I was trying to download a podcast.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Antony
Stone
Sent: 25 February 2018 17:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

The problem is that we don't know what you are trying to download, and
the
instructions for how to download it may be different depending on what
it
is.

Show us a URL for the podcast, or at least for a page containing a link
to
it, and we can take a look for ourselves to try and help you.

Until you show us the specific thing you want to download, we're just
guessing at the best way to do it, and that's both inefficient and
potentially unhelpful.


Antony.

On Sunday 25 February 2018 at 17:21:10, anthony borg wrote:

Hi brian
The problem was not to play it but to download it from a website.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 February 2018 11:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

But you could easily play it in any media player. You need to tell us
what file type it is.
Some are playlist files, ie the playlist is downloaded and this has
the address in it of the file and its type.
Brian

----- Original Message -----
From: "anthony borg" <anthonyborg001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Yes it plays in media player when I hit enter on the link.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: 23 February 2018 14:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

But when you press enter on the link, what happens? Does it play In
Media Player? I believe someone described how to download a file
such as a podcast playing in Windows Media Player. But before that
method is of any use to you, does the file open in the player?


Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: anthony borg <mailto:anthonyborg001@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Hi gene

It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in
advance

Anthony

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

How are you getting to the podcast in the first place? Is it
playing in Media Player?


Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: anthony borg <mailto:anthonyborg001@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] question

Hi folks

Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the
internet using windows media player please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony
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where to find nvda tutorials

Marisane Moruthanyana
 

Morning Joseph

 

I am Marisane from SA.

 

I tried to visit your website, i.e. http://www.josephsl.net, but am not able to see the content on the website.

 

How do I see it?

 

Besides, where to find the tutorials?

 

Your assistance is appreciated in advance.

 

Marisane


scanner recommendation

Don H
 

I have been very happy with my Epson Perfection V39 flat bed scanner. Gets its power from your usb port so no power supply needed. Scans fast and accurate.