Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
It always depends on the quality of the image, sadly. I have played with contrast, grey scale and all sorts and in the end if its a clean crisp thing with few font changes or bold italics or size changes or column alterations most are fine. After that all bets are off.
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I now tend to send docs back to suppliers and ask for a doc not a pdf of the text itself. I really do not know what they are doing that makes them so poor unless some idiot prints them then sacans them back in which seems to be a pretty pointless thing to do! Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Blee Blat" <bleeblat@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation Yes, I'd thought about that. That's the reason I didn't get one of the ones that works on the phone. If you send it for processing, who knows what happens to your image? Getting a good scan with a phone camera takes a bit of work too, I have found, though I can make it work. The last time I tried OCR though, which was the built-in Windows 10 one, on a scanned PDF, it made a complete mess of the output.
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Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation
bob jutzi <jutzi1@...>
Not sure what it sells for now, but for my use, the KNFB reader app is great which I use along with NVDA.
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On 3/1/2018 12:43 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I am told that knfb reader is now available for windows pcs, though have not tried it as it only works in 10, and I seem to recall if you have it for one platform its cheaper for another but its been a while since I looked. Other than that, what about the Cloud ocr Microsoft seem to be always talking about?
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Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
On a recent test, I found that a rostrum camera was actually better than a scanner most of the time.
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From: "Blee Blat" <bleeblat@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation I was wondering the same thing. I currently have a phone and computer but not a standalone scanner. How good is OCR these days? Should I get a scanner for things like legal documents and other important stuff. I don't always have people handy to read things. What's the most accurate software anyway? Is there something reasonably portable?
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Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I am told that knfb reader is now available for windows pcs, though have not tried it as it only works in 10, and I seem to recall if you have it for one platform its cheaper for another but its been a while since I looked. Other than that, what about the Cloud ocr Microsoft seem to be always talking about?
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I don't know much about it as I'm using omnipage on a cannon and have used abbey, which althoug OK does seem to have issues ith i and l making my friend della into delia and new maldent high street into new maiden high street. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 11:28 PM Subject: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation Hi everyone,
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Re: NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome
marvin kotler
This is marv here. You might try the f5 key for page refresh; this clears up this issue sometimes.
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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 9:34 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome
Funny this. I had this happen just now in an older firefox, but on a restart of nvda all went back to normal. I was using the latest master at the time.
Something odd in javascript perhaps? Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 5:12 PM Subject: [nvda] NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome
Hello If I go to paypal.com with latest NVDA and also the firefox download site does the same thing, nvda2018.1 rc1. It briefly shows the links and stuff and then when I arrow up and down, it just gets stuck on send money, no links, no nothing. Is there something wrong with chrome and the latest nvda? Also same thing with firefox. I had to use edge to get the latest firefox because chrome got stuck on the download firefox words, no links showed on the site. They show for a very brief time then disappear. What could be going on?
Josh
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Re: NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Funny this. I had this happen just now in an older firefox, but on a restart of nvda all went back to normal.
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I was using the latest master at the time. Something odd in javascript perhaps? Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 5:12 PM Subject: [nvda] NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome Hello If I go to paypal.com with latest NVDA and also the firefox download site does the same thing, nvda2018.1 rc1. It briefly shows the links and stuff and then when I arrow up and down, it just gets stuck on send money, no links, no nothing. Is there something wrong with chrome and the latest nvda? Also same thing with firefox. I had to use edge to get the latest firefox because chrome got stuck on the download firefox words, no links showed on the site. They show for a very brief time then disappear. What could be going on? Josh Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
That’s good to hear. This would be version 14, then? That appears to be the latest.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: March 1, 2018 12:19 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation
Hi,
I am not Rick but, I am using the current version of abby and it works quite well. I hope this helps.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
HI.
You remind me here that I have been interested in this program for some time.
You say you are using an older version (11). What do you know about the current available versions? Perhaps, from an accessibility standpoint, specifically. I suppose if I were to buy the program, I would be getting the latest version, so before that happens, I’d want to make sure it works as well as yours does, you know?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Evening, or at least here in New England it is. I have been using Abby FineReader for years. It is my original version 11 and it is running well under Windows 10. Right now my scanner is part of my Cannon printer, and though a one page at a time model, it serves very well. Abby is remarkably accurate and will scan to a wide variety of formats including Word, Excel and Epic.
One of the little things I like about it is that when installed, it adds itself to the context menu. Find a PDF file , hit the context key, arrow down to Abby and press the right arrow to view the options of formats you can convert to. Press the enter key and Abby opens and converts the file and then opens it in the correct app. The only change I would make right now is to move to a scanner with a document feeder. I am also serious about moving up several generations of Abby. Honestly I owe Abby the purchase of a newer version. Over the years with several major crashes, support has been quick and clear and restoration was very simple. Good luck finding a solution that works, does not require fifty key presses and most important does not cost too much. I am a firm believer in an application that does a single job, but does it very well.
As for OCR on an iPad, if you have not tried Seeing AI, it is quite a program, with a variety of functions and if is free on the Appstore. Interestingly it was developed and is well maintained by Microsoft.
Disclaimer here: I do not work for Abby nor do I sell any of their products. Feel free to contact me off list if I can be of help, or just ask questions here. Rick Dr. Rick Ely TVI, Vision Consultant 451 Rocky Hill Road Florence, MA 01062 &413() 727-3038
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Hi everyone,
I've got a query about a standalone scanner. Is the OCR software which comes with any of the scanners such as Epson or Canon accessible (or even have an accessible Word plugin), or which third-party OCR would be worth considering?
I've personally used Omnipage and Abbyy in the past, and also had a scanner with an OCR plugin for Word that worked well, even though the main software wasn't great, but I haven't looked at anything recently to recommend.
Kind regards
-- Quentin Christensen
Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation
Gary Metzler
Hi,
I am not Rick but, I am using the current version of abby and it works quite well. I hope this helps.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 10:49 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation
HI.
You remind me here that I have been interested in this program for some time.
You say you are using an older version (11). What do you know about the current available versions? Perhaps, from an accessibility standpoint, specifically. I suppose if I were to buy the program, I would be getting the latest version, so before that happens, I’d want to make sure it works as well as yours does, you know?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Evening, or at least here in New England it is. I have been using Abby FineReader for years. It is my original version 11 and it is running well under Windows 10. Right now my scanner is part of my Cannon printer, and though a one page at a time model, it serves very well. Abby is remarkably accurate and will scan to a wide variety of formats including Word, Excel and Epic.
One of the little things I like about it is that when installed, it adds itself to the context menu. Find a PDF file , hit the context key, arrow down to Abby and press the right arrow to view the options of formats you can convert to. Press the enter key and Abby opens and converts the file and then opens it in the correct app. The only change I would make right now is to move to a scanner with a document feeder. I am also serious about moving up several generations of Abby. Honestly I owe Abby the purchase of a newer version. Over the years with several major crashes, support has been quick and clear and restoration was very simple. Good luck finding a solution that works, does not require fifty key presses and most important does not cost too much. I am a firm believer in an application that does a single job, but does it very well.
As for OCR on an iPad, if you have not tried Seeing AI, it is quite a program, with a variety of functions and if is free on the Appstore. Interestingly it was developed and is well maintained by Microsoft.
Disclaimer here: I do not work for Abby nor do I sell any of their products. Feel free to contact me off list if I can be of help, or just ask questions here. Rick Dr. Rick Ely TVI, Vision Consultant 451 Rocky Hill Road Florence, MA 01062 &413() 727-3038
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Hi everyone,
I've got a query about a standalone scanner. Is the OCR software which comes with any of the scanners such as Epson or Canon accessible (or even have an accessible Word plugin), or which third-party OCR would be worth considering?
I've personally used Omnipage and Abbyy in the past, and also had a scanner with an OCR plugin for Word that worked well, even though the main software wasn't great, but I haven't looked at anything recently to recommend.
Kind regards
-- Quentin Christensen
Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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Input not working with Braille Sense
Rob Hudson
Here I have a braille sense Qwerty. It is connected via bluetooth. The screen reader is NVDA 2017.4.
Input is not working. I seem to recall something about a missing DLL file but the information is so vague in my mind that I don't know how to properly search the archives for it. Any help?
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Re: nvda paypal and chrome
Felix G.
Confirmed. Seeing the same with both NVDA and JAWS. Best,Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> schrieb am Mi., 28. Feb. 2018 um 18:41 Uhr:
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Re: question about automatic language switching
Afik Suffir <afik.sofir@...>
What do you mean?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 6:27 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] question about automatic language switching You can select between French and English for latin languages... Vocalizer for NVDA alone can not choose the appropriate language inside the same group of languages... Rui Fontes Às 15:38 de 01/03/2018, Afik Suffir escreveu: b.h
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Re: question
Rosemarie Chavarria
You're still not giving the address of the site and we've asked you for it numerous times.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony borg Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 12:25 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] question It is the website of the NCBI. Apologies if I'm not very understandable. Thanks in advance -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Antony Stone Sent: 27 February 2018 12:02 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] question Do you realise how much easier it would have been for us to help you if you had simply told us the address of the page you are trying to download the podcast from? I have found it intensely frustrating to see you answer every request for the address of the page with "It is the website of ncbi" or similar, even after people have told you this is not sufficiently clear or specific. Antony. On Tuesday 27 February 2018 at 11:55:42, anthony borg wrote: Thanks very much that you have managed to understand my problem.-- She did not swoon, but she did get a look on her face that said 'This conversation is over', which Jack took as a sign he was going in the right direction. - Neal Stephenson, Quicksilver Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: question about automatic language switching
Rui Fontes
You can select between French and English for latin languages...
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Vocalizer for NVDA alone can not choose the appropriate language inside the same group of languages... Rui Fontes Às 15:38 de 01/03/2018, Afik Suffir escreveu:
b.h
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Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation
bob jutzi <jutzi1@...>
I'm using the new KNFB Windows 10 app which I bought when discounted to $19 US and love it. I used ABBYY 12 but since I'm always trying out new system environments I grew weary of frequently needing to have an Activation reset.
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I'm reinstalling on the only computer I have so don't see why they can't come up with a method of restoring from a license file. This option does exist; however I didn't have any luck activating.
On 3/1/2018 11:25 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
FineReader 12 is more accessible than 14.
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Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Hey.
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Thanks for this information. How much of an obstacle do you find AFR 14 accessibility? I noticed that they, perhaps unsurprisingly, do not sell versions older than 14 on their site.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes Sent: March 1, 2018 11:25 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation FineReader 12 is more accessible than 14. There are not fineReader 13... Rui Às 15:48 de 01/03/2018, JM Casey escreveu: HI.
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Re: where to find nvda tutorials
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marisane Moruthanyana
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 8:22 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] where to find nvda tutorials
Morning Joseph
I am Marisane from SA.
I tried to visit your website, i.e. http://www.josephsl.net, but am not able to see the content on the website.
How do I see it?
Besides, where to find the tutorials?
Your assistance is appreciated in advance.
Marisane
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Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation
Rui Fontes
FineReader 12 is more accessible than 14.
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There are not fineReader 13... Rui Às 15:48 de 01/03/2018, JM Casey escreveu:
HI.
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Re: question
Hareth
Its the same app, the interface options and menu are similar.
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the one you've posted is the portable, and the other is full installed version.
On 3/1/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I wonder how similar it is to the program I gave a link to. That program
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where to find nvda tutorials
Marisane Moruthanyana
Morning Joseph
I am Marisane from SA.
I tried to visit your website, i.e. http://www.josephsl.net, but am not able to see the content on the website.
How do I see it?
Besides, where to find the tutorials?
Your assistance is appreciated in advance.
Marisane
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scanner recommendation
Don H
I have been very happy with my Epson Perfection V39 flat bed scanner. Gets its power from your usb port so no power supply needed. Scans fast and accurate.
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