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Re: Windows App Essentials Failing to Update

Sam Bushman
 

Hi Joseph,

I understand but wanted you to know - it might help troubleshoot. This has been the case for several versions for me, I never mentioned it until now because I had a solution.

Here is the version I am currently running.

Hope this helps.

NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA)
Version: master-14897,4faf0d05

Thanks,
Sam

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 8:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows App Essentials Failing to Update

Hi,
I still need to know a few things though: NVDA version and add-on version you've got. If the dialog method works, then that is considered a workaround.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 7:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows App Essentials Failing to Update

Hi Joseph and All,

I notice when it reminds me to update it fails. But, when I go under preferences and that plugin and ask it to check for an update it doesn't fail it works. Hopefully this helps.
Thank you sir,
Sam


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 8:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows App Essentials Failing to Update

Hi,
Which version of NVDA are you using?
Cheers,Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 3:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows App Essentials Failing to Update

I have previously had no problem updating the Windows App Essentials add-on when the prompt to do so appeared. However, I have recently been getting the prompt to update to version 18.03.1 and I have clicked on "yes", but it consistently fails to update. What is the problem here?

--
Rich De Steno


Re: Windows App Essentials Failing to Update

Brice Mijares
 

Same with me, I update the add on through preferences.
Windows version: Windows 10Ver1709 (64-bit) build 16299.248
NVDA version, 2018.1 RC

On 3/2/2018 7:31 AM, Sam Bushman wrote:
Hi Joseph and All,
I notice when it reminds me to update it fails. But, when I go under preferences and that plugin and ask it to check for an update it doesn't fail it works. Hopefully this helps.
Thank you sir,
Sam
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 8:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows App Essentials Failing to Update
Hi,
Which version of NVDA are you using?
Cheers,Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 3:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows App Essentials Failing to Update
I have previously had no problem updating the Windows App Essentials add-on when the prompt to do so appeared. However, I have recently been getting the prompt to update to version 18.03.1 and I have clicked on "yes", but it consistently fails to update. What is the problem here?
--
Rich De Steno


Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation

Giles Turnbull
 

I too am a big fan of ABBYY Fine Reader. i use version 12 and don't have any accessibility concerns with it. I find their support email very quick and friendly too. I was curious whether I could use the same purchased licence on my laptop and tablet or if I'd need to install another purchased copy onto the tablet. I received this reply:

According to the End-User License Agreement (EULA) you may install ABBYY FineReader 12 Professional on two computers, but you may not use the software on both in the same time.
So in order to use the software on your tablet computer, please close ABBYY FineReader 12 on the laptop (please check in the system tray, if all the applications, such as Screenshot Reader and Business Card Reader are also closed).

Most times I use ABBYY to open a PDF doc into Word and then paste the text from there into a Notepad file. Using the main ABBYY window rather than the context menu option to convert to Word, I don't find ABBYY 12 menus respond any slower than any other program with NVDA. My only minor disappointment is that it seems very much tied to Microsoft formats. Yes it'll convert PDFs into Word and Excel, but why can't it convert the unformatted text into a .txt file?

I too purchased KNFB Reader when it was on cheap price offer, but I don't find it easy to navigate the interface. Interestingly, according to the Kurzweil website, K1000 uses "The ABBYY FineReader Version 11 OCR engine provides the most accurate OCR available. For the best possible scanning results,"

Giles


Re: downloading podcast problem

Antony Stone
 

I disagree.

The page https://www.ncbi.ie/technology-podcast-episode-70-march-2018/

contains a player which will play the file

http://www.ncbi.ie/wp-content/uploads/podcasts/podcast_march_2018.mp3

That second URL is also downloadable and will play offline as a standard MP3.

I see nothing computed, or based on my machine, about that second URL.


Regards,


Antony.

On Friday 02 March 2018 at 16:31:43, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

I had a look at the file on the player link, and it has a computed address
for the file dependent on the parameters of the persons machine. It looks
like a .og file to me as well.
Sadly the site does not support directly going to the place where the file
is coming up with an illegal request when I tried it. They really should
not call it a podcast when in fact they have set it up as a stream
instead. Brian

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Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] downloading podcast problem


Ok thanks brian, I managed to download it.

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I get a blank page on that link.
Brian

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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] downloading podcast problem


Hi gene

I have tried to download this mont podcast but I’m finding it hard to find
the URL as usual

Below there is website link.

http://www.ncbi.ie/technologypodcast),

thanks in advance

anthony



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 01 March 2018 19:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] downloading podcast problem



I prefer the portable version because it can be transferred from machine to
machine if desired without installing and with the settings kept. All you
have to do is copy the folder onto another machine.



Gene

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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 10:21 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] question



Its the same app, the interface options and menu are similar.
the one you've posted is the portable, and the other is full installed
version.

On 3/1/18, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:
I wonder how similar it is to the program I gave a link to. That program
was developed by Carlos, who ran a list and unexpectedly and very
unfortunately died recently. He wanted to make a very simple recording
program with a loop back ability for blind people to use and he added a
Windows GUI to what was a command line program.

Gene
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From: Hareth
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 4:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


its the official source forge page of virtual recorder before the
developer changed it into a screen capture recorder sometime back
2014.
So its the same program installer version.
BTW it saves the recording to the documents / virtual recorder folder.

On 3/1/18, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:
What programs does this work with. You don't need it with the program I
sent information about.

Gene
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Subject: Re: [nvda] question


Gene,
Here is the source forge page of the installer app,
find the link that say's:
setup Virtual Audio Capture Grabber v0.4.6.exe
that's the download link
Just encase if you don't have it, or anyone else needs it.

Best

On 3/1/18, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:
The recorder is a portable version. Extract the zip files, and then,
when
you are in the folder where the files of the program are, find the
virtual
recorder.exe file and press enter on it. When you open the folder,
typing
the letter v once will take you to the file.

When the program opens, tab around to the field with the word "device
as the
description. Up and down arrow until you find the what you hear
option. That is the setting you want. It will be remembered so you
don't have to
set it again when you open the program. You will see obvious buttons
such
as reccord. Use the space bar on the buttons. The file you are
recording
is in the folder where the program files are. I believe it is named
recording.mp3. Be sure to move the file where you want it after you
record
it and tchange the name either before or after moving. You can't
listen to
the file using the program. You can play the file in any player that
can
play MP3 files. You can't edit with the program either. If you want
to edit, you will have to use a different program. But this is a very
simple
program that will record anything you hear when your sound card plays.

You can download the zip file by following this link:
http://opopanax.net/download/Virtual_Recorder_Portable.zip

Gene.
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From: anthony borg
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 2:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


Yes please, if you can send me the info either on the list or privately
here
is my mail address.

Anthonyborg001@... <mailto:Anthonyborg001@...> ".

Regards



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 28 February 2018 11:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question



And the next time you want to keep something, you won't know how. I
would
advise getting the very simple program I discussed here, virtual
recorder,
and trying it. There is a specific version I would advise using. I'll
send
information if you ask.



and if you ever are corresponding with someone and want to send them a
link
to an article, a product, or whatever the case, you evidently won't
know how. This is a fundamental Internet skill. I'm not particularly
concerned
with you saving this particular podcast unless you are, but there are
certain skills and knowledge you are not learning as a result of no
longer
pursuing the matter. The Internet address copy and paste knowledge is
important in general. Recording using a program like Virtual Recorder
is
important if you want to record material that can't be saved.



Gene

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From: anthony borg

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 8:24 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] question



Hi rosemarie
Don't worry any more about it as it isn' of a great importance.
Sorry for the trouble I might giving you all.
Best regards
Anthony

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[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 28 February 2018 00:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

No, it doesn't! I'm agrivated with you as I'm sure others are too! I'm
done!



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anthony
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Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Hi rosemarie,
It is the website of ncbi.
I hope this will help.
Thanks in advance
Anthony

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 26 February 2018 22:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

but from what site? Give us the actual address--not just that it's a
technology site. You're not helping us.



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[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
anthony
borg
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 7:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

I was trying to download a podcast.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Antony
Stone
Sent: 25 February 2018 17:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

The problem is that we don't know what you are trying to download, and
the
instructions for how to download it may be different depending on what
it
is.

Show us a URL for the podcast, or at least for a page containing a link
to
it, and we can take a look for ourselves to try and help you.

Until you show us the specific thing you want to download, we're just
guessing at the best way to do it, and that's both inefficient and
potentially unhelpful.


Antony.

On Sunday 25 February 2018 at 17:21:10, anthony borg wrote:
Hi brian
The problem was not to play it but to download it from a website.

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But you could easily play it in any media player. You need to tell us
what file type it is.

Some are playlist files, ie the playlist is downloaded and this has

the address in it of the file and its type.

Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Yes it plays in media player when I hit enter on the link.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: 23 February 2018 14:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

But when you press enter on the link, what happens? Does it play In
Media Player? I believe someone described how to download a file
such as a podcast playing in Windows Media Player. But before that
method is of any use to you, does the file open in the player?


Gene

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Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Hi gene

It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in
advance

Anthony

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

How are you getting to the podcast in the first place? Is it
playing in Media Player?


Gene

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Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM
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Subject: [nvda] question

Hi folks

Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the
internet using windows media player please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony
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Re: NVDA not seeing checkbox

Jonathan COHN
 

Hello, 

Please explain a bit more. Did you try elements list with nvda-F7? Did you use browse  mode keys to search for a checkbox? Also, though we can't get to the exact place you were, several banks use this type of functionality to check if this is  trusted system. Perhaps somebody els on this list uses the same banking service. Certainly my Credit Union has the same kind of screen after login.
Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn
key? .


Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation

Gene
 

The problem of sllow responsiveness in menus, it should be pointed out, is only a Windows 10 problem. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

That's good to know. I also have JAWS 18 on this computer. Task Manager does not work any better with jFW than it does with NVDA (I replaced it with Process Explorer, but that unfortunately only seems to work with jFW). So I'm guessing the same result might occurr with Finereader. I'll just have to use the trial, I suppose.



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: March 2, 2018 7:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

With NVDA the menus in FineReader 12 are so slow that it is actually unusable. With Narrator it works a lot better. It is the same kind of situation like with Task Manager where NVDA is painfully slow, but Narrator handles it well. I hope the NVDA developers can figure out this issue.

Regards

Christo


On 2018/03/02 2:30 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
> Long time ago I don't use FineReader 12...
>
> and, normally, I use it more to read image files, such as PDF, JPG and
> so on, and that is done without messing with FineReader interface...
>
> Rui
>
>
> Às 06:55 de 02/03/2018, Christo de Klerk escreveu:
>> Hi Rui
>>
>> I have FineReader 12 and my screen reader is NVDA, but NVDA is about
>> unusably slow with it, so that I generally switch to Narrator when I
>> have to use FineReader. Is this your experience also, or do you have
>> any suggestion as to how I can get NVDA and FineReader to work better
>> together?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Christo
>>
>> On 2018/03/01 6:25 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
>>> FineReader 12 is more accessible than 14.
>>> There are not fineReader 13...
>>>
>>> Rui
>>>
>>>
>>> Às 15:48 de 01/03/2018, JM Casey escreveu:
>>>> HI.
>>>>
>>>> You remind me here that I have been interested in this program for
>>>> some time.
>>>>
>>>> You say you are using an older version (11). What do you know about
>>>> the current available versions? Perhaps, from an accessibility
>>>> standpoint, specifically. I suppose if I were to buy the program, I
>>>> would be getting the latest version, so before that happens, I’d
>>>> want to make sure it works as well as yours does, you know?
>>>>
>>>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf
>>>> Of *ely.r@...
>>>> *Sent:* February 28, 2018 7:46 PM
>>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation
>>>>
>>>> Evening, or at least here in New England it is.
>>>>
>>>> I have been using Abby FineReader for years. It is my original
>>>> version 11 and it is running well under Windows 10. Right now my
>>>> scanner is part of my Cannon printer, and though a one page at a
>>>> time model, it serves very well. Abby is remarkably accurate and
>>>> will scan to a wide variety of formats including Word, Excel and Epic.
>>>>
>>>> One of the little things I like about it is that when installed, it
>>>> adds itself to the context menu. Find a PDF file , hit the context
>>>> key, arrow down to Abby and press the right arrow to view the
>>>> options of formats you can convert to. Press the enter key and Abby
>>>> opens and converts the file and then opens it in the correct app.
>>>>
>>>> The only change I would make right now is to move to a scanner with
>>>> a document feeder. I am also serious about moving up several
>>>> generations of Abby.
>>>>
>>>> Honestly I owe Abby the purchase of a newer version. Over the years
>>>> with several major crashes, support has been quick and clear and
>>>> restoration was very simple.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck finding a solution that works, does not require fifty key
>>>> presses and most important does not cost too much. I am a firm
>>>> believer in an application that does a single job, but does it very
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> As for OCR on an iPad, if you have not tried Seeing AI, it is quite
>>>>  a program, with a variety of  functions and if is free on the
>>>> Appstore. Interestingly it was developed and is well maintained by
>>>> Microsoft.
>>>>
>>>> Disclaimer here: I do not work for Abby nor do I sell any of their
>>>> products. Feel free to contact me off list if I can be of help, or
>>>> just ask questions here.
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Rick Ely
>>>>
>>>> TVI, Vision Consultant
>>>>
>>>> 451 Rocky Hill Road
>>>>
>>>> Florence, MA 01062
>>>>
>>>> &413()  727-3038
>>>>
>>>> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf
>>>> Of *Quentin Christensen
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 28, 2018 6:29 PM
>>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>> *Subject:* [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I've got a query about a standalone scanner.  Is the OCR software
>>>> which comes with any of the scanners such as Epson or Canon
>>>> accessible (or even have an accessible Word plugin), or which
>>>> third-party OCR would be worth considering?
>>>>
>>>> I've personally used Omnipage and Abbyy in the past, and also had a
>>>> scanner with an OCR plugin for Word that worked well, even though
>>>> the main software wasn't great, but I haven't looked at anything
>>>> recently to recommend.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quentin.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Quentin Christensen
>>>> Training and Support Manager
>>>>
>>>> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now
>>>> available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>>>
>>>> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>>>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>








Re: NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome

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I'm waiting for 59.
I just find it weird and restrictive that is all. Have they fixed the non reading download dialogue when you use it on windows 7? Brian

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Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome


I'm in the opposite position from you, mainly using Firefox but tentatively experimenting with Chrome more and more. This is good to know as I use the goodreads site frequently, but haven't tested it out with Chrome yet. I do find it works pretty well with firefox. Have you moved to FF 58, or are you on the ESR? 58 seems very fast. I know NVDA users experienced some issues with 57, but 58 is supposed to be much better, no?



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: March 2, 2018 1:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome

There are some websites on which NVDA does reliably not work with Chrome. I say "reliably", because it is absolutely always the case. A case in point is when you need a synopsis and reviews of a book on the Goodreads website. NVDA gets stuck on a line and you cannot budge from it, not in Object review mode, not in Document review and not in Screen review; not after an NVDA startup. You simply have no access to the information. But in Firefox the information is shown without any problem like there is nothing special about it. This issue is going to make me return to Firefox as my default browser. For a while I have been using Chrome and it definitely is faster than the Fox, but it really is a bother if it doesn't give me the information another browser can. I would then rather put up with the Fox being a bit slower.

Regards

Christo


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Funny this. I had this happen just now in an older firefox, but on a
restart of nvda all went back to normal.
I was using the latest master at the time.

Something odd in javascript perhaps?
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 5:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome


Hello
If I go to paypal.com with latest NVDA and also the firefox download
site does the same thing, nvda2018.1 rc1. It briefly shows the links
and stuff and then when I arrow up and down, it just gets stuck on
send money, no links, no nothing. Is there something wrong with chrome
and the latest nvda? Also same thing with firefox. I had to use edge
to get the latest firefox because chrome got stuck on the download
firefox words, no links showed on the site. They show for a very brief
time then disappear. What could be going on?

Josh


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Re: downloading podcast problem

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I had a look at the file on the player link, and it has a computed address for the file dependent on the parameters of the persons machine. It looks like a .og file to me as well.
Sadly the site does not support directly going to the place where the file is coming up with an illegal request when I tried it. They really should not call it a podcast when in fact they have set it up as a stream instead.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "anthony borg" <anthonyborg001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] downloading podcast problem


Ok thanks brian, I managed to download it.

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Sent: 02 March 2018 15:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] downloading podcast problem

I get a blank page on that link.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "anthony borg" <anthonyborg001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] downloading podcast problem


Hi gene

I have tried to download this mont podcast but I’m finding it hard to find
the URL as usual

Below there is website link.

http://www.ncbi.ie/technologypodcast),

thanks in advance

anthony



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 01 March 2018 19:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] downloading podcast problem



I prefer the portable version because it can be transferred from machine to
machine if desired without installing and with the settings kept. All you
have to do is copy the folder onto another machine.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Hareth <mailto:hareth4m@...>

Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 10:21 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] question



Its the same app, the interface options and menu are similar.
the one you've posted is the portable, and the other is full installed
version.


On 3/1/18, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:
I wonder how similar it is to the program I gave a link to. That program
was developed by Carlos, who ran a list and unexpectedly and very
unfortunately died recently. He wanted to make a very simple recording
program with a loop back ability for blind people to use and he added a
Windows GUI to what was a command line program.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Hareth
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 4:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


its the official source forge page of virtual recorder before the
developer changed it into a screen capture recorder sometime back
2014.
So its the same program installer version.
BTW it saves the recording to the documents / virtual recorder folder.

On 3/1/18, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:
What programs does this work with. You don't need it with the program I
sent information about.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Hareth
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 4:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


Gene,
Here is the source forge page of the installer app,
find the link that say's:
setup Virtual Audio Capture Grabber v0.4.6.exe
that's the download link
Just encase if you don't have it, or anyone else needs it.

Best

On 3/1/18, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:
The recorder is a portable version. Extract the zip files, and then,
when
you are in the folder where the files of the program are, find the
virtual
recorder.exe file and press enter on it. When you open the folder,
typing
the letter v once will take you to the file.

When the program opens, tab around to the field with the word "device as
the
description. Up and down arrow until you find the what you hear option.
That is the setting you want. It will be remembered so you don't have
to
set it again when you open the program. You will see obvious buttons
such
as reccord. Use the space bar on the buttons. The file you are
recording
is in the folder where the program files are. I believe it is named
recording.mp3. Be sure to move the file where you want it after you
record
it and tchange the name either before or after moving. You can't listen
to
the file using the program. You can play the file in any player that
can
play MP3 files. You can't edit with the program either. If you want to
edit, you will have to use a different program. But this is a very
simple
program that will record anything you hear when your sound card plays.

You can download the zip file by following this link:
http://opopanax.net/download/Virtual_Recorder_Portable.zip

Gene.
----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 2:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


Yes please, if you can send me the info either on the list or privately
here
is my mail address.

Anthonyborg001@... <mailto:Anthonyborg001@...> ".

Regards



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 28 February 2018 11:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question



And the next time you want to keep something, you won't know how. I
would
advise getting the very simple program I discussed here, virtual
recorder,
and trying it. There is a specific version I would advise using. I'll
send
information if you ask.



and if you ever are corresponding with someone and want to send them a
link
to an article, a product, or whatever the case, you evidently won't know
how. This is a fundamental Internet skill. I'm not particularly
concerned
with you saving this particular podcast unless you are, but there are
certain skills and knowledge you are not learning as a result of no
longer
pursuing the matter. The Internet address copy and paste knowledge is
important in general. Recording using a program like Virtual Recorder
is
important if you want to record material that can't be saved.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 8:24 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] question



Hi rosemarie
Don't worry any more about it as it isn' of a great importance.
Sorry for the trouble I might giving you all.
Best regards
Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 28 February 2018 00:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

No, it doesn't! I'm agrivated with you as I'm sure others are too! I'm
done!



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
anthony
borg
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Hi rosemarie,
It is the website of ncbi.
I hope this will help.
Thanks in advance
Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 26 February 2018 22:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

but from what site? Give us the actual address--not just that it's a
technology site. You're not helping us.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
anthony
borg
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 7:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

I was trying to download a podcast.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Antony
Stone
Sent: 25 February 2018 17:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

The problem is that we don't know what you are trying to download, and
the
instructions for how to download it may be different depending on what
it
is.

Show us a URL for the podcast, or at least for a page containing a link
to
it, and we can take a look for ourselves to try and help you.

Until you show us the specific thing you want to download, we're just
guessing at the best way to do it, and that's both inefficient and
potentially unhelpful.


Antony.

On Sunday 25 February 2018 at 17:21:10, anthony borg wrote:

Hi brian
The problem was not to play it but to download it from a website.

-----Original Message-----
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Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 February 2018 11:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

But you could easily play it in any media player. You need to tell us
what file type it is.
Some are playlist files, ie the playlist is downloaded and this has
the address in it of the file and its type.
Brian

----- Original Message -----
From: "anthony borg" <anthonyborg001@...
<mailto:anthonyborg001@...> >
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Yes it plays in media player when I hit enter on the link.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: 23 February 2018 14:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

But when you press enter on the link, what happens? Does it play In
Media Player? I believe someone described how to download a file
such as a podcast playing in Windows Media Player. But before that
method is of any use to you, does the file open in the player?


Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: anthony borg <mailto:anthonyborg001@...>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Hi gene

It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in
advance

Anthony

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

How are you getting to the podcast in the first place? Is it
playing in Media Player?


Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: anthony borg <mailto:anthonyborg001@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] question

Hi folks

Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the
internet using windows media player please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony
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Re: Windows App Essentials Failing to Update

 

Hi,
I still need to know a few things though: NVDA version and add-on version you've got. If the dialog method works, then that is considered a workaround.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 7:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows App Essentials Failing to Update

Hi Joseph and All,

I notice when it reminds me to update it fails. But, when I go under preferences and that plugin and ask it to check for an update it doesn't fail it works. Hopefully this helps.
Thank you sir,
Sam


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 8:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows App Essentials Failing to Update

Hi,
Which version of NVDA are you using?
Cheers,Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 3:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows App Essentials Failing to Update

I have previously had no problem updating the Windows App Essentials add-on when the prompt to do so appeared. However, I have recently been getting the prompt to update to version 18.03.1 and I have clicked on "yes", but it consistently fails to update. What is the problem here?

--
Rich De Steno


Re: Windows App Essentials Failing to Update

Sam Bushman
 

Hi Joseph and All,

I notice when it reminds me to update it fails. But, when I go under preferences and that plugin and ask it to check for an update it doesn't fail it works. Hopefully this helps.
Thank you sir,
Sam

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 8:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows App Essentials Failing to Update

Hi,
Which version of NVDA are you using?
Cheers,Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 3:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows App Essentials Failing to Update

I have previously had no problem updating the Windows App Essentials add-on when the prompt to do so appeared. However, I have recently been getting the prompt to update to version 18.03.1 and I have clicked on "yes", but it consistently fails to update. What is the problem here?

--
Rich De Steno


Re: downloading podcast problem

anthony borg
 

Ok thanks brian, I managed to download it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 02 March 2018 15:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] downloading podcast problem

I get a blank page on that link.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "anthony borg" <anthonyborg001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] downloading podcast problem


Hi gene

I have tried to download this mont podcast but I’m finding it hard to find
the URL as usual

Below there is website link.

http://www.ncbi.ie/technologypodcast),

thanks in advance

anthony



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 01 March 2018 19:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] downloading podcast problem



I prefer the portable version because it can be transferred from machine to
machine if desired without installing and with the settings kept. All you
have to do is copy the folder onto another machine.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Hareth <mailto:hareth4m@...>

Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 10:21 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] question



Its the same app, the interface options and menu are similar.
the one you've posted is the portable, and the other is full installed
version.


On 3/1/18, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:
I wonder how similar it is to the program I gave a link to. That program
was developed by Carlos, who ran a list and unexpectedly and very
unfortunately died recently. He wanted to make a very simple recording
program with a loop back ability for blind people to use and he added a
Windows GUI to what was a command line program.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Hareth
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 4:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


its the official source forge page of virtual recorder before the
developer changed it into a screen capture recorder sometime back
2014.
So its the same program installer version.
BTW it saves the recording to the documents / virtual recorder folder.

On 3/1/18, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:
What programs does this work with. You don't need it with the program I
sent information about.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Hareth
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 4:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


Gene,
Here is the source forge page of the installer app,
find the link that say's:
setup Virtual Audio Capture Grabber v0.4.6.exe
that's the download link
Just encase if you don't have it, or anyone else needs it.

Best

On 3/1/18, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:
The recorder is a portable version. Extract the zip files, and then,
when
you are in the folder where the files of the program are, find the
virtual
recorder.exe file and press enter on it. When you open the folder,
typing
the letter v once will take you to the file.

When the program opens, tab around to the field with the word "device as
the
description. Up and down arrow until you find the what you hear option.
That is the setting you want. It will be remembered so you don't have
to
set it again when you open the program. You will see obvious buttons
such
as reccord. Use the space bar on the buttons. The file you are
recording
is in the folder where the program files are. I believe it is named
recording.mp3. Be sure to move the file where you want it after you
record
it and tchange the name either before or after moving. You can't listen
to
the file using the program. You can play the file in any player that
can
play MP3 files. You can't edit with the program either. If you want to
edit, you will have to use a different program. But this is a very
simple
program that will record anything you hear when your sound card plays.

You can download the zip file by following this link:
http://opopanax.net/download/Virtual_Recorder_Portable.zip

Gene.
----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 2:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


Yes please, if you can send me the info either on the list or privately
here
is my mail address.

Anthonyborg001@... <mailto:Anthonyborg001@...> ".

Regards



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 28 February 2018 11:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question



And the next time you want to keep something, you won't know how. I
would
advise getting the very simple program I discussed here, virtual
recorder,
and trying it. There is a specific version I would advise using. I'll
send
information if you ask.



and if you ever are corresponding with someone and want to send them a
link
to an article, a product, or whatever the case, you evidently won't know
how. This is a fundamental Internet skill. I'm not particularly
concerned
with you saving this particular podcast unless you are, but there are
certain skills and knowledge you are not learning as a result of no
longer
pursuing the matter. The Internet address copy and paste knowledge is
important in general. Recording using a program like Virtual Recorder
is
important if you want to record material that can't be saved.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 8:24 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] question



Hi rosemarie
Don't worry any more about it as it isn' of a great importance.
Sorry for the trouble I might giving you all.
Best regards
Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 28 February 2018 00:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

No, it doesn't! I'm agrivated with you as I'm sure others are too! I'm
done!



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
anthony
borg
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Hi rosemarie,
It is the website of ncbi.
I hope this will help.
Thanks in advance
Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 26 February 2018 22:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

but from what site? Give us the actual address--not just that it's a
technology site. You're not helping us.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
anthony
borg
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 7:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

I was trying to download a podcast.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Antony
Stone
Sent: 25 February 2018 17:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

The problem is that we don't know what you are trying to download, and
the
instructions for how to download it may be different depending on what
it
is.

Show us a URL for the podcast, or at least for a page containing a link
to
it, and we can take a look for ourselves to try and help you.

Until you show us the specific thing you want to download, we're just
guessing at the best way to do it, and that's both inefficient and
potentially unhelpful.


Antony.

On Sunday 25 February 2018 at 17:21:10, anthony borg wrote:

Hi brian
The problem was not to play it but to download it from a website.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 February 2018 11:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

But you could easily play it in any media player. You need to tell us
what file type it is.
Some are playlist files, ie the playlist is downloaded and this has
the address in it of the file and its type.
Brian

----- Original Message -----
From: "anthony borg" <anthonyborg001@...
<mailto:anthonyborg001@...> >
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Yes it plays in media player when I hit enter on the link.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: 23 February 2018 14:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

But when you press enter on the link, what happens? Does it play In
Media Player? I believe someone described how to download a file
such as a podcast playing in Windows Media Player. But before that
method is of any use to you, does the file open in the player?


Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: anthony borg <mailto:anthonyborg001@...>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Hi gene

It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in
advance

Anthony

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

How are you getting to the podcast in the first place? Is it
playing in Media Player?


Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: anthony borg <mailto:anthonyborg001@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] question

Hi folks

Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the
internet using windows media player please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony
--
My life is going completely according to plan.

I do sometimes wish it had been *my* plan, though.

Please reply to the
list;
please *don't*
CC
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Re: Windows App Essentials Failing to Update

 

Hi,
Which version of NVDA are you using?
Cheers,Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 3:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows App Essentials Failing to Update

I have previously had no problem updating the Windows App Essentials add-on when the prompt to do so appeared. However, I have recently been getting the prompt to update to version 18.03.1 and I have clicked on "yes", but it consistently fails to update. What is the problem here?

--
Rich De Steno


Re: In relation to NVDA and Mozilla Firefox browser

Brian's Mail list account
 

Yes I'm on the esr version 52, mainly due to the problems with download window being hard to use, no sounds add ons allowed and the occasional lock up of pages in the quantum version.
I am quite disappointed that Mozilla should roll out new code that has obviously not been tested completely, lets hope they either extend support of esr past June or get their act together and make a product as good as it was before. Brian

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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 6:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] In relation to NVDA and Mozilla Firefox browser


Hi,


I've been using both Mozilla Firefox and NVDA being latest.


Operating system; Windows 7, 64bit Ultimate.


When I open the browser, my computer happens to slow down to the extent that it is almost impossible for me to provide you with any information that is supposed to be contained in NVDA Log Viewer. No matter whether I open the Mozilla Home page, or any other site, it happens very often, but not each time I choose to open Firefox. I've not switched to the ESR version of Firefox after I was informed that Firefox 57 was going to experience changes which were supposed to affect NVDA as a screen reader. I did not do the switching because I decided to stick to the standard Firefox so as to test it. I happen to have experienced this issue, but I have waited for new releases to see what changes may take place in the interim. However, the last versions of NVDA and Mozilla Firefox show that it is high time for me to submit a report in relation to the already mentioned issue.


Am I supposed to clear my machine of some older Firefox profile settings, or some system files relating to Firefox? If not, what could I possibly do? The last Firefox working smoothly for me was Firefox 56.


NOTE


When I open my Firefox where the browse mode is not engaged, it works good. For example, when I open it and open the file menu to walk through the menues offered. When the browse mode is concerned, there is the possibility that my computer may slow down.





Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

I used to use K1000 in university as well. It's really expensive, and really, Open Book also seems exorbitantly priced to me. Given all the positive words about ABBYY, the price seems really reasonable. I'm not at all convinced I'd be any happier with any of these overpriced pieces of software.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: March 2, 2018 12:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

What do you want to pay.

Abbyy fine reader is cheapish, 200-300 bucks australian, its reasonably accessible.

Omnipage is more expensive and aparently you need jaws to use it it aparently can crash a lot and has a lot of unwanted stuff but its all from user heresay.

I am unsure about dolphin but if you have the cash for dolphin products, there is open book by vfo or my favorite which I like k1000 which I used while at university pirated as it was.

If I had the cash I'd buy the entire kit it was that good but I don't have 3000 bucks which was why I originally cracked it.

But I was getting closed to actually buying it outright for myself.

Now if the price dropped to something like omnipage maybe 800 bucks I'd buy it maybe.




On 2/03/2018 6:14 p.m., Heaven Botma wrote:
Hi List



Which is mor accessible with NVDA between the following:


Abby Fine Reader

OmniPage

Dolphin Easy Converter?



Kind regards





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, 01 March 2018 5:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation



HI.



You remind me here that I have been interested in this program for some time.



You say you are using an older version (11). What do you know about the current available versions? Perhaps, from an accessibility standpoint, specifically. I suppose if I were to buy the program, I would be getting the latest version, so before that happens, I’d want to make sure it works as well as yours does, you know?







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@... <mailto:ely.r@...>
Sent: February 28, 2018 7:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation



Evening, or at least here in New England it is.

I have been using Abby FineReader for years. It is my original version 11 and it is running well under Windows 10. Right now my scanner is part of my Cannon printer, and though a one page at a time model, it serves very well. Abby is remarkably accurate and will scan to a wide variety of formats including Word, Excel and Epic.



One of the little things I like about it is that when installed, it adds itself to the context menu. Find a PDF file , hit the context key, arrow down to Abby and press the right arrow to view the options of formats you can convert to. Press the enter key and Abby opens and converts the file and then opens it in the correct app.

The only change I would make right now is to move to a scanner with a document feeder. I am also serious about moving up several generations of Abby.

Honestly I owe Abby the purchase of a newer version. Over the years with several major crashes, support has been quick and clear and restoration was very simple.

Good luck finding a solution that works, does not require fifty key presses and most important does not cost too much. I am a firm believer in an application that does a single job, but does it very well.



As for OCR on an iPad, if you have not tried Seeing AI, it is quite a program, with a variety of functions and if is free on the Appstore. Interestingly it was developed and is well maintained by Microsoft.



Disclaimer here: I do not work for Abby nor do I sell any of their products. Feel free to contact me off list if I can be of help, or just ask questions here.

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413() 727-3038



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 6:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation



Hi everyone,



I've got a query about a standalone scanner. Is the OCR software which comes with any of the scanners such as Epson or Canon accessible (or even have an accessible Word plugin), or which third-party OCR would be worth considering?



I've personally used Omnipage and Abbyy in the past, and also had a scanner with an OCR plugin for Word that worked well, even though the main software wasn't great, but I haven't looked at anything recently to recommend.



Kind regards


Quentin.




Re: NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

I'm in the opposite position from you, mainly using Firefox but tentatively experimenting with Chrome more and more. This is good to know as I use the goodreads site frequently, but haven't tested it out with Chrome yet. I do find it works pretty well with firefox. Have you moved to FF 58, or are you on the ESR? 58 seems very fast. I know NVDA users experienced some issues with 57, but 58 is supposed to be much better, no?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: March 2, 2018 1:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome

There are some websites on which NVDA does reliably not work with Chrome. I say "reliably", because it is absolutely always the case. A case in point is when you need a synopsis and reviews of a book on the Goodreads website. NVDA gets stuck on a line and you cannot budge from it, not in Object review mode, not in Document review and not in Screen review; not after an NVDA startup. You simply have no access to the information. But in Firefox the information is shown without any problem like there is nothing special about it. This issue is going to make me return to Firefox as my default browser. For a while I have been using Chrome and it definitely is faster than the Fox, but it really is a bother if it doesn't give me the information another browser can. I would then rather put up with the Fox being a bit slower.

Regards

Christo


On 2018/02/28 8:16 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Funny this. I had this happen just now in an older firefox, but on a
restart of nvda all went back to normal.
I was using the latest master at the time.

Something odd in javascript perhaps?
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 5:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] NvDA not working with some websites in latest chrome


Hello
If I go to paypal.com with latest NVDA and also the firefox download
site does the same thing, nvda2018.1 rc1. It briefly shows the links
and stuff and then when I arrow up and down, it just gets stuck on
send money, no links, no nothing. Is there something wrong with chrome
and the latest nvda? Also same thing with firefox. I had to use edge
to get the latest firefox because chrome got stuck on the download
firefox words, no links showed on the site. They show for a very brief
time then disappear. What could be going on?

Josh


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Re: downloading podcast problem

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I get a blank page on that link.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "anthony borg" <anthonyborg001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] downloading podcast problem


Hi gene

I have tried to download this mont podcast but I’m finding it hard to find the URL as usual

Below there is website link.

http://www.ncbi.ie/technologypodcast),

thanks in advance

anthony



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 01 March 2018 19:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] downloading podcast problem



I prefer the portable version because it can be transferred from machine to machine if desired without installing and with the settings kept. All you have to do is copy the folder onto another machine.



Gene

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From: Hareth <mailto:hareth4m@...>

Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 10:21 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] question



Its the same app, the interface options and menu are similar.
the one you've posted is the portable, and the other is full installed version.


On 3/1/18, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:
I wonder how similar it is to the program I gave a link to. That program
was developed by Carlos, who ran a list and unexpectedly and very
unfortunately died recently. He wanted to make a very simple recording
program with a loop back ability for blind people to use and he added a
Windows GUI to what was a command line program.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Hareth
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 4:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


its the official source forge page of virtual recorder before the
developer changed it into a screen capture recorder sometime back
2014.
So its the same program installer version.
BTW it saves the recording to the documents / virtual recorder folder.

On 3/1/18, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:
What programs does this work with. You don't need it with the program I
sent information about.

Gene
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From: Hareth
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 4:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


Gene,
Here is the source forge page of the installer app,
find the link that say's:
setup Virtual Audio Capture Grabber v0.4.6.exe
that's the download link
Just encase if you don't have it, or anyone else needs it.

Best

On 3/1/18, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:
The recorder is a portable version. Extract the zip files, and then,
when
you are in the folder where the files of the program are, find the
virtual
recorder.exe file and press enter on it. When you open the folder,
typing
the letter v once will take you to the file.

When the program opens, tab around to the field with the word "device as
the
description. Up and down arrow until you find the what you hear option.
That is the setting you want. It will be remembered so you don't have
to
set it again when you open the program. You will see obvious buttons
such
as reccord. Use the space bar on the buttons. The file you are
recording
is in the folder where the program files are. I believe it is named
recording.mp3. Be sure to move the file where you want it after you
record
it and tchange the name either before or after moving. You can't listen
to
the file using the program. You can play the file in any player that
can
play MP3 files. You can't edit with the program either. If you want to
edit, you will have to use a different program. But this is a very
simple
program that will record anything you hear when your sound card plays.

You can download the zip file by following this link:
http://opopanax.net/download/Virtual_Recorder_Portable.zip

Gene.
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From: anthony borg
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 2:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question


Yes please, if you can send me the info either on the list or privately
here
is my mail address.

Anthonyborg001@... <mailto:Anthonyborg001@...> ".

Regards



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 28 February 2018 11:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question



And the next time you want to keep something, you won't know how. I
would
advise getting the very simple program I discussed here, virtual
recorder,
and trying it. There is a specific version I would advise using. I'll
send
information if you ask.



and if you ever are corresponding with someone and want to send them a
link
to an article, a product, or whatever the case, you evidently won't know
how. This is a fundamental Internet skill. I'm not particularly
concerned
with you saving this particular podcast unless you are, but there are
certain skills and knowledge you are not learning as a result of no
longer
pursuing the matter. The Internet address copy and paste knowledge is
important in general. Recording using a program like Virtual Recorder
is
important if you want to record material that can't be saved.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 8:24 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] question



Hi rosemarie
Don't worry any more about it as it isn' of a great importance.
Sorry for the trouble I might giving you all.
Best regards
Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 28 February 2018 00:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

No, it doesn't! I'm agrivated with you as I'm sure others are too! I'm
done!



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
anthony
borg
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Hi rosemarie,
It is the website of ncbi.
I hope this will help.
Thanks in advance
Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 26 February 2018 22:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

but from what site? Give us the actual address--not just that it's a
technology site. You're not helping us.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
anthony
borg
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 7:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

I was trying to download a podcast.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Antony
Stone
Sent: 25 February 2018 17:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

The problem is that we don't know what you are trying to download, and
the
instructions for how to download it may be different depending on what
it
is.

Show us a URL for the podcast, or at least for a page containing a link
to
it, and we can take a look for ourselves to try and help you.

Until you show us the specific thing you want to download, we're just
guessing at the best way to do it, and that's both inefficient and
potentially unhelpful.


Antony.

On Sunday 25 February 2018 at 17:21:10, anthony borg wrote:

Hi brian
The problem was not to play it but to download it from a website.

-----Original Message-----
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Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 February 2018 11:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

But you could easily play it in any media player. You need to tell us
what file type it is.
Some are playlist files, ie the playlist is downloaded and this has
the address in it of the file and its type.
Brian

----- Original Message -----
From: "anthony borg" <anthonyborg001@... <mailto:anthonyborg001@...> >
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Yes it plays in media player when I hit enter on the link.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: 23 February 2018 14:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

But when you press enter on the link, what happens? Does it play In
Media Player? I believe someone described how to download a file
such as a podcast playing in Windows Media Player. But before that
method is of any use to you, does the file open in the player?


Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: anthony borg <mailto:anthonyborg001@...>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

Hi gene

It is on a website. And I want to download a copy of it. Thanks in
advance

Anthony

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 22 February 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question

How are you getting to the podcast in the first place? Is it
playing in Media Player?


Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: anthony borg <mailto:anthonyborg001@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] question

Hi folks

Can somebody explain to me how to download a podcast from the
internet using windows media player please?

Thanks in advance

Anthony
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Re: Windows App Essentials Failing to Update

 

You will have to go to the add-ons site, and download the newest version of it and install it yourself. Some things changed in update routines.


NVDA plus n, press T, then press A. Tab to get add-ons, and find win 10 app essentials. Hopefully, this helps you.

On Mar 2, 2018, at 6:42 AM, Rich De Steno <ironrock@...> wrote:

I have previously had no problem updating the Windows App Essentials add-on when the prompt to do so appeared. However, I have recently been getting the prompt to update to version 18.03.1 and I have clicked on "yes", but it consistently fails to update. What is the problem here?

--
Rich De Steno




Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Ah. So you haven't had the intolerably sluggish menu issues that Cristo reported?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alexander Masic
Sent: March 2, 2018 3:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

Personaly i use finereader 12, latest nvda snapshot on windows 10, and får my it works perfect.



Den 2018-03-02 kl. 07:55, skrev Christo de Klerk:
Hi Rui

I have FineReader 12 and my screen reader is NVDA, but NVDA is about
unusably slow with it, so that I generally switch to Narrator when I
have to use FineReader. Is this your experience also, or do you have
any suggestion as to how I can get NVDA and FineReader to work better
together?

Regards

Christo

On 2018/03/01 6:25 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
FineReader 12 is more accessible than 14.
There are not fineReader 13...

Rui


Às 15:48 de 01/03/2018, JM Casey escreveu:
HI.

You remind me here that I have been interested in this program for
some time.

You say you are using an older version (11). What do you know about
the current available versions? Perhaps, from an accessibility
standpoint, specifically. I suppose if I were to buy the program, I
would be getting the latest version, so before that happens, I’d
want to make sure it works as well as yours does, you know?

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf
Of *ely.r@...
*Sent:* February 28, 2018 7:46 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

Evening, or at least here in New England it is.

I have been using Abby FineReader for years. It is my original
version 11 and it is running well under Windows 10. Right now my
scanner is part of my Cannon printer, and though a one page at a
time model, it serves very well. Abby is remarkably accurate and
will scan to a wide variety of formats including Word, Excel and Epic.

One of the little things I like about it is that when installed, it
adds itself to the context menu. Find a PDF file , hit the context
key, arrow down to Abby and press the right arrow to view the
options of formats you can convert to. Press the enter key and Abby
opens and converts the file and then opens it in the correct app.

The only change I would make right now is to move to a scanner with
a document feeder. I am also serious about moving up several
generations of Abby.

Honestly I owe Abby the purchase of a newer version. Over the years
with several major crashes, support has been quick and clear and
restoration was very simple.

Good luck finding a solution that works, does not require fifty key
presses and most important does not cost too much. I am a firm
believer in an application that does a single job, but does it very
well.

As for OCR on an iPad, if you have not tried Seeing AI, it is quite
a program, with a variety of functions and if is free on the
Appstore. Interestingly it was developed and is well maintained by
Microsoft.

Disclaimer here: I do not work for Abby nor do I sell any of their
products. Feel free to contact me off list if I can be of help, or
just ask questions here.

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413() 727-3038

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf
Of *Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 28, 2018 6:29 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

Hi everyone,

I've got a query about a standalone scanner. Is the OCR software
which comes with any of the scanners such as Epson or Canon
accessible (or even have an accessible Word plugin), or which
third-party OCR would be worth considering?

I've personally used Omnipage and Abbyy in the past, and also had a
scanner with an OCR plugin for Word that worked well, even though
the main software wasn't great, but I haven't looked at anything
recently to recommend.

Kind regards


Quentin.

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Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

That's good to know. I also have JAWS 18 on this computer. Task Manager does not work any better with jFW than it does with NVDA (I replaced it with Process Explorer, but that unfortunately only seems to work with jFW). So I'm guessing the same result might occurr with Finereader. I'll just have to use the trial, I suppose.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: March 2, 2018 7:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

With NVDA the menus in FineReader 12 are so slow that it is actually unusable. With Narrator it works a lot better. It is the same kind of situation like with Task Manager where NVDA is painfully slow, but Narrator handles it well. I hope the NVDA developers can figure out this issue.

Regards

Christo


On 2018/03/02 2:30 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Long time ago I don't use FineReader 12...

and, normally, I use it more to read image files, such as PDF, JPG and
so on, and that is done without messing with FineReader interface...

Rui


Às 06:55 de 02/03/2018, Christo de Klerk escreveu:
Hi Rui

I have FineReader 12 and my screen reader is NVDA, but NVDA is about
unusably slow with it, so that I generally switch to Narrator when I
have to use FineReader. Is this your experience also, or do you have
any suggestion as to how I can get NVDA and FineReader to work better
together?

Regards

Christo

On 2018/03/01 6:25 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
FineReader 12 is more accessible than 14.
There are not fineReader 13...

Rui


Às 15:48 de 01/03/2018, JM Casey escreveu:
HI.

You remind me here that I have been interested in this program for
some time.

You say you are using an older version (11). What do you know about
the current available versions? Perhaps, from an accessibility
standpoint, specifically. I suppose if I were to buy the program, I
would be getting the latest version, so before that happens, I’d
want to make sure it works as well as yours does, you know?

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf
Of *ely.r@...
*Sent:* February 28, 2018 7:46 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

Evening, or at least here in New England it is.

I have been using Abby FineReader for years. It is my original
version 11 and it is running well under Windows 10. Right now my
scanner is part of my Cannon printer, and though a one page at a
time model, it serves very well. Abby is remarkably accurate and
will scan to a wide variety of formats including Word, Excel and Epic.

One of the little things I like about it is that when installed, it
adds itself to the context menu. Find a PDF file , hit the context
key, arrow down to Abby and press the right arrow to view the
options of formats you can convert to. Press the enter key and Abby
opens and converts the file and then opens it in the correct app.

The only change I would make right now is to move to a scanner with
a document feeder. I am also serious about moving up several
generations of Abby.

Honestly I owe Abby the purchase of a newer version. Over the years
with several major crashes, support has been quick and clear and
restoration was very simple.

Good luck finding a solution that works, does not require fifty key
presses and most important does not cost too much. I am a firm
believer in an application that does a single job, but does it very
well.

As for OCR on an iPad, if you have not tried Seeing AI, it is quite
a program, with a variety of functions and if is free on the
Appstore. Interestingly it was developed and is well maintained by
Microsoft.

Disclaimer here: I do not work for Abby nor do I sell any of their
products. Feel free to contact me off list if I can be of help, or
just ask questions here.

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413() 727-3038

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf
Of *Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 28, 2018 6:29 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

Hi everyone,

I've got a query about a standalone scanner. Is the OCR software
which comes with any of the scanners such as Epson or Canon
accessible (or even have an accessible Word plugin), or which
third-party OCR would be worth considering?

I've personally used Omnipage and Abbyy in the past, and also had a
scanner with an OCR plugin for Word that worked well, even though
the main software wasn't great, but I haven't looked at anything
recently to recommend.

Kind regards


Quentin.

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Re: scanner recommendation

Mohib Anwar Rafay
 

I am using Fujitsu scanner for my scanning purposes. Its an ADF cum
flatbed, very fast, 30 pages per minute in ADF and 60 pages in duplex
mode. While it practically scans 10 pages in flatbed mode in a minute.

On 3/2/18, Pascal Lambert <rambeau68@...> wrote:
Hi All,

I use the HP8715 Pro combined printer/scanner with a document feeder. It
comes with its own scanning software and its saves documents in Image PDF,
RTF documents, and JPEG or TIF. It can be setup as a wireless
printer/scanner. It also works with the HP instant ink program which costs
$3 per month for 50 pages. Options for more pages per month are available.
I had it for more than a year and I like it very much.

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin
Christensen
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 5:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] scanner recommendation



Does it use its own software for OCR, or does it come / did you buy it
bundled with one of the commercial packages?



On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:53 AM, Don H <lmddh50@...
<mailto:lmddh50@...> > wrote:

I have been very happy with my Epson Perfection V39 flat bed scanner. Gets
its power from your usb port so no power supply needed. Scans fast and
accurate.











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