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where can I get an older version of NVDA?

Chris Judd
 

Hi all,
 
Today, I accidently updated to the latest version of NVDA.  Is there a place I can go to download the version before this one?
Chris
 


Re: CAVI is offering free audio editing classes

Vlad Dragomir
 

Thanks Ian for the feedback, it might be worth trying to save for a few months then. All the best!


Re: NVDA 2018.1 released

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Sylvie,

I must admit I need to test this more myself, but reading: https://support.google.com/docs/answer/6057417?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en it indicates you need to enable screen reader support, and then enable braille support as well in Google sheets itself.  It also gives a little info on using the routing keys on the display to navigate.

Let me know whether that does or doesn't help!

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 3:22 AM, Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...> wrote:

Hello Quentin and all,

Thanks for the good news on NVDA 2018.1.

While reading "what's new" in this version, I saw the following statement:

"Early support for Google Sheets with Braille mode enabled. (#7935)"

What does it mean?

I could not get Braille to work in Google Sheets with this new version.

Thank you for your response.

Best

Sylvie

Le 08/03/2018 à 06:23, Quentin Christensen a écrit :
Hi everyone,

The first release of #NVDASR for 2018 is finally here. Links to download and what's new in this release found at:


While downloading, please consider helping us to continue our work by making a single donation or becoming a monthly donor at http://nvaccess.org/donate

NVDA is empowering the blind across the world. Check out how in our recent video: https://youtu.be/Ks7AwV_uxO0
The first release of #NVDASR for 2018 is finally here. Links to download and what's new in this release found at:


While downloading, please consider helping us to continue our work by making a single donation or becoming a monthly donor at http://nvaccess.org/donate

NVDA is empowering the blind across the world. Check out how in our recent video: https://youtu.be/Ks7AwV_uxO0


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: CAVI is offering free audio editing classes

Ian Blackburn
 

I have attended their introduction to computer courses
Way back in 2005 and 2006
They were worthwhile doing
Lectures were quite casually delivered
For people in real needs are used to be scholarships for the course
Regards Ian

On 9 Mar 2018, at 1:04 pm, Vlad Dragomir <vladdragomir1983@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all,

First of all, thanks to the initial poster. Without you, I would have never known about this site.

Second, has anyone attended any courses of this Cavi school? On one hand, the idea of accessible courses seems fantastic, I'm particularly interested in their computer related programmes. On the other hand, the site seems a little bit abandoned, there are contradictions on different pages, especially when it comes to availability, the newest pages are from 2017. Besides, their prices aren't as affordable as they pretend, at least from my very personal prospective. Financially, it would be a big effort for me. I might be in a minority here, so I do apologise for this last thought, but if they offered real discounts, I believe they'd have much more students. Let's face it, the blind are rarely rich, unless their names are Stevie Wonder or Andrea Bocelli. If NVAccess can offer NVDA for free and keep existing through donnations, why not CiscoVision? I humbly admit it, I have much more respect for NVAccess and their generous model, and enthusiastically became a monthly donner recently.

Sorry again, this isn't exactly related to NVDA, but I thought I'd pop in with these very unobjective remarks. Thanks for reading.

Best,

Vlad.


Re: CAVI is offering free audio editing classes

Vlad Dragomir
 

Hello all,

First of all, thanks to the initial poster. Without you, I would have never known about this site.

Second, has anyone attended any courses of this Cavi school? On one hand, the idea of accessible courses seems fantastic, I'm particularly interested in their computer related programmes. On the other hand, the site seems a little bit abandoned, there are contradictions on different pages, especially when it comes to availability, the newest pages are from 2017. Besides, their prices aren't as affordable as they pretend, at least from my very personal prospective. Financially, it would be a big effort for me. I might be in a minority here, so I do apologise for this last thought, but if they offered real discounts, I believe they'd have much more students. Let's face it, the blind are rarely rich, unless their names are Stevie Wonder or Andrea Bocelli. If NVAccess can offer NVDA for free and keep existing through donnations, why not CiscoVision? I humbly admit it, I have much more respect for NVAccess and their generous model, and enthusiastically became a monthly donner recently.

Sorry again, this isn't exactly related to NVDA, but I thought I'd pop in with these very unobjective remarks. Thanks for reading.

Best,

Vlad.


Re: Anti Virus Program

Sam Taylor
 

Oh, and most importantly accessible.


On 9/03/2018 14:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:
You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea






Re: Anti Virus Program

Sam Taylor
 

Try Clamwin antivirus. it's effective, small, portable and free.


On 9/03/2018 14:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:
You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea






Re: Anti Virus Program

 

You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.

On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea


Re: CAVI is offering free audio editing classes

 

Well thats where it can be different at least for me, it still costs to get a cane and other accesseries but at least they are below 100 bucks I think it cost me between 35 and 60 bucks for a cane and they last a long while.

I don't mind it that much.

Ok but what I do mind is that whilst at a conference in australia, a friend of mine got me a graphite cane, thats really good but its thinner and well utter crap, it may as well be, new zealand tips don't fit the thing and I am not importing australian tips I allready pay enough for new zealand tips.

The government and business funded software still has its place, schools, universities, and for businesses well you get funds for starting one, studdying etc, if you ever got into a job in the first place chances are you would get jaws to use for your job because that is what the blind user uses for work, jaws its the norm.

Ofcause consumers try to get updates themselves, funding is not always there not unlimited and it can be quite a narrow thing.

At any rate my argument has nothing at all to do with smas, upgrades and the like even though they do cost but the start prices, of the programs and the start training to go with them.

For me a big issue is simply that these so called disability companies seem to to a point want the entire sum up front, no one has that cash.

Maybe something has changed I don't know.

Even if it had, benefits are small and you would pay it off vary little at a time.

Now if all those companies did it like ms does with the 365 model I think norton do the same thing, you could always have the latest and pay for subscriptions and get access to well things.

Maybe have the option after you pay enough that you can outright buy your program and then continue to upgrade it either by subscription or something that isn't really what I care to do but at least its acceptable I mean I could live with that.

As for braille, yeah braille displays are outdated and crappy the technology a lot of them currently use has not been changed in years, its old and outdated, and from what I heard from online and offline groups, the parts are getting harder and harder to source.

For braille displays, the future is probably something that can be 3d printed.

On 9/03/2018 12:14 p.m., Blee Blat wrote:
Yes, it is absolutely correct that a large part, probably 80-90% of sales of adaptive technology products come from government. This is why I still haven't got a braille display even though I contacted 3 vendors. They prefer corporate or government accounts. Nobody wants to deal with me because I am not a government. Even getting a cane shipped is proving problematic. They expect you to be enslaved, and if you manage to find a way around it, then the system doesn't want to be at all useful.




Re: CAVI is offering free audio editing classes

 

True, but the initial purchace is probably funded, now once we have it ofcause we have to continue to pay for upgrades I meant full products.

I do get from time to time full upgrades of supernova, but I wouldn't have brought it if my school hadn't and I wouldn't have gotten jaws if I didn't have university student funding to do so.

On 9/03/2018 12:08 p.m., Dennis L wrote:
first its not only schools and government agencies that purchase Jaws. Do you think they have 0 consumers that purchase or purchase SMAs?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CAVI is offering free audio editing classes


well to be honest, I just read an article on the decline of streaming music and I guess some of that stuff just doesn't last continuously.

I mean vfo has just about everything, but I know other products and companies are no more.

I am sure if the governments and schools were not buying jaws then jaws wouldn't exist either.



On 9/03/2018 1:57 a.m., Robert Kingett wrote:
I don't know about, anymore, but if that's true, that is very sad. The only blindness ventures that seem to stay alive are the open source projects. Wonder why Hadley is still standing, though.





Anti Virus Program

Andrea Sherry
 

tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea

--
Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad


Re: Propellerhead reason accessibility

John Isige
 

I think most people are doing work in Reaper, which is what the CAVI courses we've been talking about recently cover. I'm not saying that to discourage experimentation with Reason, I've never tried it. I'm just throwing it out so in case it doesn't work for you, you know there are alternatives out there.

On 3/8/2018 19:22, Igor Kaplan wrote:
Hello!
I would like to find out, if someone was able to use Propellerhead reason successfully with NVDA?
I have downloaded the trial version, it looks to be somewhat accessible and also has a lot of keyboard shortcuts, however since I have never used it before, I don't know, if it is accessible enough to do something useful!
Would love to hear some success or failure storyes!

All the best!

Igor.



Propellerhead reason accessibility

Igor Kaplan
 

Hello!
I would like to find out, if someone was able to use Propellerhead reason successfully with NVDA?
I have downloaded the trial version, it looks to be somewhat accessible and also has a lot of keyboard shortcuts, however since I have never used it before, I don't know, if it is accessible enough to do something useful!
Would love to hear some success or failure storyes!

All the best!

Igor.


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 18.03.2 emergency patch #addonrelease

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, got it threw the updater when I updated to nvda 2018.1 thanks.

On 08/03/2018 22:41, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Try:
https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/download/18.03/wintenApps-18
.03.2.nvda-addon
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick
via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 2:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 18.03.2 emergency patch
#AddonRelease
get page not found with this url
https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/download/18.03/wintenApps-18
On 08/03/2018 04:13, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,

For those using NVDA 2017.4: a really critical issue was found that
prevents the add-on from working in the first place. Version 18.03.2
resolves this, but because add-on update feature won't work, you need
to install this version manually:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/download/18.03/wintenA
pps-18
.03.2.nvda-addon


Sorry for the inconvenience.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: CAVI is offering free audio editing classes

Blee Blat <bleeblat@...>
 

Yes, it is absolutely correct that a large part, probably 80-90% of sales of adaptive technology products come from government. This is why I still haven't got a braille display even though I contacted 3 vendors. They prefer corporate or government accounts. Nobody wants to deal with me because I am not a government. Even getting a cane shipped is proving problematic. They expect you to be enslaved, and if you manage to find a way around it, then the system doesn't want to be at all useful.


Re: CAVI is offering free audio editing classes

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

first its not only schools and government agencies that purchase Jaws. Do you think they have 0 consumers that purchase or purchase SMAs?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CAVI is offering free audio editing classes


well to be honest, I just read an article on the decline of streaming music and I guess some of that stuff just doesn't last continuously.

I mean vfo has just about everything, but I know other products and companies are no more.

I am sure if the governments and schools were not buying jaws then jaws wouldn't exist either.



On 9/03/2018 1:57 a.m., Robert Kingett wrote:
I don't know about, anymore, but if that's true, that is very sad. The only blindness ventures that seem to stay alive are the open source projects. Wonder why Hadley is still standing, though.


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 18.03.2 emergency patch #addonrelease

 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick
via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 2:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 18.03.2 emergency patch
#AddonRelease

get page not found with this url
https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/download/18.03/wintenApps-18

On 08/03/2018 04:13, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,

For those using NVDA 2017.4: a really critical issue was found that
prevents the add-on from working in the first place. Version 18.03.2
resolves this, but because add-on update feature won't work, you need
to install this version manually:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/download/18.03/wintenA
pps-18
.03.2.nvda-addon



Sorry for the inconvenience.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 18.03.2 emergency patch #addonrelease

Kevin Cussick
 

On 08/03/2018 04:13, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,
For those using NVDA 2017.4: a really critical issue was found that prevents
the add-on from working in the first place. Version 18.03.2 resolves this,
but because add-on update feature won't work, you need to install this
version manually:
https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/download/18.03/wintenApps-18
.03.2.nvda-addon
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Cheers,
Joseph


Re: Tips on using QBittorrent?

John Isige
 

Going all the way to the left with nvda-numpad 4, and moving to the
right with nvda-numpad 6, I get:  split button, status checkbox checked,
a list, categories checkbox checked, a tree view, tags checkbox checked,
another tree view, trackers checkbox checked, a list, a scroll bar, and
a grip. If I move inside any of the lists or tree views, I get roughly
the same options, e.g. all, downloading, Etc. No option has objects
inside of it. So for example, if I get to the first list and hit
nvda-numpad 2, I get into the list and see, moving from left to right
with nvda-numpad 6: all (3), downloading (0), seeding (3), completed
(3), resumed (3), paused (0), active (0), inactive (3), errored (0). The
first tree view gives me: all (3), uncategorized (3). You get the idea,
I'm not listing every single option especially since they're mostly
duplicated.


I've tried using nvda-numpad enter to select an option in the lists and
the trees, I still see no files. I guess the one thing I haven't tried
is routing the cursor with nvda-numpad slash and then using numpad-slash
to click. But yeah, the point is, somebody's gonna have to offer me a
better description or something, because I'm seeing no files whatsoever
here. Obviously they're there, they downloaded, and I believe people
when they say they can get at them. But so far as I know, yeah, I'm
using object navigation and using it correctly, and I ain't seeing any
files.

On 3/8/2018 14:45, erik burggraaf wrote:
The torrents are in one of the treeviews, but can't be accessed using
the arrow keys.  I got it using oject navigation, but I have about 150
torrents active right now.  If I load them all into qbittorrent it
will take forever to find anything.

Best,

Erik


On March 8, 2018 3:14:09 PM "John Isige" <gwynn@tds.net> wrote:

So, I have a status checkbox. Moving to the right, there's a list with
all, downloading, stuff like that. There are also a couple of tree views
with those same categories. There are no objects inside either the list
categories or the trees. I still see no files or info whatsoever.


On 3/6/2018 17:40, mk360 wrote:
But object navigation? Not flat navigation.

However, for example, as an starting point, locate with "tab" the
"state" verification box, move the object navigator to the previows
object with NVDA numpad 4 (or the equivalent in laptop mode) move the
object navigator to the first child object with NVDA numpad 2, move to
the next object with NVDA numpad 6 until you arribe to the tree, move
the navigator with NVDA numpad 2 and explore it with previows and next
object.

Note that in the latest next branch the navigator fail in the tree,
but it works in the latest stable version (I don't know in RC).


Regards,

mk.


El 06/03/2018 a las 20:03, John Isige escribió:
I did. Is the list of files inside of something else? Because I didn't
see any files.


On 3/6/2018 15:24, mk360 wrote:
Use object navigation.


El 06/03/2018 a las 18:20, John Isige escribió:
Hi all. Apparently MuTorrent has security issues, and a place
recommended QBittorrent as an alternative. I downloaded it, since
people said it was accessible. Anybody have tips on using it? For
example, I downloaded something, but I can't find the file on the
screen to do anything with it, e.g. see how far the download is,
delete the file/torrent if I don't want it anymore, and so on. I
managed to get through the options, although a warning, if you get
into advanced you'll get stuck, I can't see any way back to the tree
and the OK button and so on. I mean I got it to work as a thing that
will open and download torrents which is OK I guess, but I'd like a
little more control, if this thing is supposedly accessible. Right
now I have no idea how to tell it to get rid of a torrent, or to stop
seeding it, or get rid of the files associated with it, see the
download speed and progress, you know, the kinds of things you
typically want to do with torrents.
















Re: Email clients for windows 7 32 bits, anny recommendation?

 

I had this with google, you need to.

1.  set a new imap on google mail making sure google mail imap is on in its settings, then you need to, connect and check as usual, google will prompt you to secure it with signing in and allowing thunderbird, then you can go back to pop and it does what it does, I had to do that a bit ago.

Now not sure but once thats allowed tecnically you probably don't have to do it again unless its machine spaciffic.

On 9/03/2018 10:04 a.m., Fernando Apan wrote:
Hi folks,

I have two machines: in one of them I use windows 7 64 bit and thunderbird as my default email client. However, on my windows 7 32 bit laptop, thunderbird doesn't work anny more, since I can not send or receive emails. Is there anny thing I can install in order to be able to read my email on that machine?



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