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Re: Email clients for windows 7 32 bits, anny recommendation?

 

Hello everyone!
I would use Windows Live Mail when I was using Windows 7, so I can help you. Click here to download this installation package.
 
Cheers,
Florian


Re: Anti Virus Program

Gene
 

You may get information if you ask here about how to use the program.  Are you using Windows 10, Windows 7 or Windows 8?  For Windows 7, you should use Microsoft Security Essentials.  If Windows 10, Windows Defender.  I'm not sure about Windows 8.  But the program, whichever you use, should be able to be used.  I know Microsoft Security Essentials is.  If you don't understand the interface, it can be explained.  I haven't used Windows Defender but I know people are using it.
 
Aside from that, I don't know what other programs are available now that are accessible, or reasonably so. 
 
These programs are much better than Clamwin.  They have improved over the last two years and, while not considered really good, are considered adequate by reviewers I've read.  I'm not saying you should use these programs.  I'm saying that they are considered adequate by the reviews I've read recently and also that if you have a problem with a program, if you ask about it rather than just assume it isn't usable, you may find that it is.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus Program

hThat's what I'm after.

I find Defender somewhat difficult to navigate.

Andrea


On 9/03/2018 3:57 PM, Sam Taylor wrote:

Oh, and most importantly accessible.


On 9/03/2018 14:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:
You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea






--
Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad


Re: CAVI is offering free audio editing classes

Andrew <drudwn2000@...>
 

Hello, my name is Andrew. I took one of the last courses at CAVI Reaper & Goldwave. I
will say that the instructors are top notch. I had three instructors, one left in the
middle of the course. Management had decided that you listen to a podcast and have a
Q&A session if anything heard in podcast was not clear.
I enjoyed learning Reaper and learning it with others who sought to know about Reaper.
I and others saw the flaw in their podcast and Q&A style and I'm sure that's why
enrollment numbers suffered.
I paid $250.00 for the course they are now giving away for free. Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ian Blackburn
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CAVI is offering free audio editing classes

I have attended their introduction to computer courses Way back in 2005 and 2006 They
were worthwhile doing Lectures were quite casually delivered For people in real needs
are used to be scholarships for the course Regards Ian On 9 Mar 2018, at 1:04 pm, Vlad
Dragomir <vladdragomir1983@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all,

First of all, thanks to the initial poster. Without you, I would have never known about
this site.

Second, has anyone attended any courses of this Cavi school? On one hand, the idea of
accessible courses seems fantastic, I'm particularly interested in their computer
related programmes. On the other hand, the site seems a little bit abandoned, there are
contradictions on different pages, especially when it comes to availability, the newest
pages are from 2017. Besides, their prices aren't as affordable as they pretend, at
least from my very personal prospective. Financially, it would be a big effort for me.
I might be in a minority here, so I do apologise for this last thought, but if they
offered real discounts, I believe they'd have much more students. Let's face it, the
blind are rarely rich, unless their names are Stevie Wonder or Andrea Bocelli. If
NVAccess can offer NVDA for free and keep existing through donnations, why not
CiscoVision? I humbly admit it, I have much more respect for NVAccess and their
generous model, and enthusiastically became a monthly donner recently.

Sorry again, this isn't exactly related to NVDA, but I thought I'd pop in with these
very unobjective remarks. Thanks for reading.

Best,

Vlad.


Re: where can I get an older version of NVDA?

 

which version do you need exactly?
tell me and copy its link hear for you to download.

On 3/9/18, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Chris,

Are you unhappy with the new version? We know it's not perfect, but I'd be
keen to hear of anything that behaves worse than in the previous version?

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Chris Judd <chrischas0805@charter.net>
wrote:

Hi all,

Today, I accidently updated to the latest version of NVDA. Is there a
place I can go to download the version before this one?
Chris




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
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were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Anti Virus Program

 

I thought clamwin wasn't that good tests wize, also there is no on demand module.

But if it is, then I guess all I'd need to do is scan my downloads but hmmph.

On 9/03/2018 5:57 p.m., Sam Taylor wrote:
Try Clamwin antivirus. it's effective, small, portable and free.


On 9/03/2018 14:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:
You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea



Re: Anti Virus Program

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi.  Windows defender is efficient enough these days.  Avg has no accessible value, at least not to my knowledge.  Cheers!

On 9/3/2018 10:14 AM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea


Re: Propellerhead reason accessibility

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi.  Not a lot, even with other screen readers.  Cheers!

On 9/3/2018 9:22 AM, Igor Kaplan wrote:
Hello!
I would like to find out, if someone was able to use Propellerhead reason successfully with NVDA?
I have downloaded the trial version, it looks to be somewhat accessible and also has a lot of keyboard shortcuts, however since I have never used it before, I don't know, if it is accessible enough to do something useful!
Would love to hear some success or failure storyes!

All the best!

Igor.



Re: Anti Virus Program

Andrea Sherry
 

hThat's what I'm after.

I find Defender somewhat difficult to navigate.

Andrea


On 9/03/2018 3:57 PM, Sam Taylor wrote:

Oh, and most importantly accessible.


On 9/03/2018 14:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:
You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea






--
Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad


Re: where can I get an older version of NVDA?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Chris,

Are you unhappy with the new version?  We know it's not perfect, but I'd be keen to hear of anything that behaves worse than in the previous version?

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Chris Judd <chrischas0805@...> wrote:
Hi all,
 
Today, I accidently updated to the latest version of NVDA.  Is there a place I can go to download the version before this one?
Chris
 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Propellerhead reason accessibility

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Igor,


Never heard of this one, what type of program is it.


Tony

On 3/8/2018 8:22 PM, Igor Kaplan wrote:
Hello!
I would like to find out, if someone was able to use Propellerhead reason successfully with NVDA?
I have downloaded the trial version, it looks to be somewhat accessible and also has a lot of keyboard shortcuts, however since I have never used it before, I don't know, if it is accessible enough to do something useful!
Would love to hear some success or failure storyes!

All the best!

Igor.




Re: Anti Virus Program

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Andrea,


Try the free version of avira. It works with NVDA.


Tony

On 3/8/2018 9:14 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to
control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea


Re: Anti Virus Program

Gene
 

It isn't effective.  Look up reviews in an Internet search.  It is very poorly rated. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus Program

Try Clamwin antivirus. it's effective, small, portable and free.


On 9/03/2018 14:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:
You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea






where can I get an older version of NVDA?

Chris Judd
 

Hi all,
 
Today, I accidently updated to the latest version of NVDA.  Is there a place I can go to download the version before this one?
Chris
 


Re: CAVI is offering free audio editing classes

Vlad Dragomir
 

Thanks Ian for the feedback, it might be worth trying to save for a few months then. All the best!


Re: NVDA 2018.1 released

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Sylvie,

I must admit I need to test this more myself, but reading: https://support.google.com/docs/answer/6057417?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en it indicates you need to enable screen reader support, and then enable braille support as well in Google sheets itself.  It also gives a little info on using the routing keys on the display to navigate.

Let me know whether that does or doesn't help!

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 3:22 AM, Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...> wrote:

Hello Quentin and all,

Thanks for the good news on NVDA 2018.1.

While reading "what's new" in this version, I saw the following statement:

"Early support for Google Sheets with Braille mode enabled. (#7935)"

What does it mean?

I could not get Braille to work in Google Sheets with this new version.

Thank you for your response.

Best

Sylvie

Le 08/03/2018 à 06:23, Quentin Christensen a écrit :
Hi everyone,

The first release of #NVDASR for 2018 is finally here. Links to download and what's new in this release found at:


While downloading, please consider helping us to continue our work by making a single donation or becoming a monthly donor at http://nvaccess.org/donate

NVDA is empowering the blind across the world. Check out how in our recent video: https://youtu.be/Ks7AwV_uxO0
The first release of #NVDASR for 2018 is finally here. Links to download and what's new in this release found at:


While downloading, please consider helping us to continue our work by making a single donation or becoming a monthly donor at http://nvaccess.org/donate

NVDA is empowering the blind across the world. Check out how in our recent video: https://youtu.be/Ks7AwV_uxO0


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: CAVI is offering free audio editing classes

Ian Blackburn
 

I have attended their introduction to computer courses
Way back in 2005 and 2006
They were worthwhile doing
Lectures were quite casually delivered
For people in real needs are used to be scholarships for the course
Regards Ian

On 9 Mar 2018, at 1:04 pm, Vlad Dragomir <vladdragomir1983@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all,

First of all, thanks to the initial poster. Without you, I would have never known about this site.

Second, has anyone attended any courses of this Cavi school? On one hand, the idea of accessible courses seems fantastic, I'm particularly interested in their computer related programmes. On the other hand, the site seems a little bit abandoned, there are contradictions on different pages, especially when it comes to availability, the newest pages are from 2017. Besides, their prices aren't as affordable as they pretend, at least from my very personal prospective. Financially, it would be a big effort for me. I might be in a minority here, so I do apologise for this last thought, but if they offered real discounts, I believe they'd have much more students. Let's face it, the blind are rarely rich, unless their names are Stevie Wonder or Andrea Bocelli. If NVAccess can offer NVDA for free and keep existing through donnations, why not CiscoVision? I humbly admit it, I have much more respect for NVAccess and their generous model, and enthusiastically became a monthly donner recently.

Sorry again, this isn't exactly related to NVDA, but I thought I'd pop in with these very unobjective remarks. Thanks for reading.

Best,

Vlad.


Re: CAVI is offering free audio editing classes

Vlad Dragomir
 

Hello all,

First of all, thanks to the initial poster. Without you, I would have never known about this site.

Second, has anyone attended any courses of this Cavi school? On one hand, the idea of accessible courses seems fantastic, I'm particularly interested in their computer related programmes. On the other hand, the site seems a little bit abandoned, there are contradictions on different pages, especially when it comes to availability, the newest pages are from 2017. Besides, their prices aren't as affordable as they pretend, at least from my very personal prospective. Financially, it would be a big effort for me. I might be in a minority here, so I do apologise for this last thought, but if they offered real discounts, I believe they'd have much more students. Let's face it, the blind are rarely rich, unless their names are Stevie Wonder or Andrea Bocelli. If NVAccess can offer NVDA for free and keep existing through donnations, why not CiscoVision? I humbly admit it, I have much more respect for NVAccess and their generous model, and enthusiastically became a monthly donner recently.

Sorry again, this isn't exactly related to NVDA, but I thought I'd pop in with these very unobjective remarks. Thanks for reading.

Best,

Vlad.


Re: Anti Virus Program

Sam Taylor
 

Oh, and most importantly accessible.


On 9/03/2018 14:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:
You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea






Re: Anti Virus Program

Sam Taylor
 

Try Clamwin antivirus. it's effective, small, portable and free.


On 9/03/2018 14:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:
You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea






Re: Anti Virus Program

 

You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.

On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea