hThat's what I'm after.

I find Defender somewhat difficult to navigate.

Andrea

Oh, and most importantly accessible.

On 9/03/2018 14:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:

You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:

tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ian Blackburn
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CAVI is offering free audio editing classes

I have attended their introduction to computer courses Way back in 2005 and 2006 They
were worthwhile doing Lectures were quite casually delivered For people in real needs
are used to be scholarships for the course Regards Ian On 9 Mar 2018, at 1:04 pm, Vlad
Dragomir <vladdragomir1983@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all,

First of all, thanks to the initial poster. Without you, I would have never known about
this site.

Second, has anyone attended any courses of this Cavi school? On one hand, the idea of
accessible courses seems fantastic, I'm particularly interested in their computer
related programmes. On the other hand, the site seems a little bit abandoned, there are
contradictions on different pages, especially when it comes to availability, the newest
pages are from 2017. Besides, their prices aren't as affordable as they pretend, at
least from my very personal prospective. Financially, it would be a big effort for me.
I might be in a minority here, so I do apologise for this last thought, but if they
offered real discounts, I believe they'd have much more students. Let's face it, the
blind are rarely rich, unless their names are Stevie Wonder or Andrea Bocelli. If
NVAccess can offer NVDA for free and keep existing through donnations, why not
CiscoVision? I humbly admit it, I have much more respect for NVAccess and their
generous model, and enthusiastically became a monthly donner recently.

Sorry again, this isn't exactly related to NVDA, but I thought I'd pop in with these
very unobjective remarks. Thanks for reading.

Best,

Vlad.

On 3/9/18, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:

Hi Chris,

Are you unhappy with the new version? We know it's not perfect, but I'd be
keen to hear of anything that behaves worse than in the previous version?

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Chris Judd <chrischas0805@charter.net>
wrote:

Hi all,

Today, I accidently updated to the latest version of NVDA. Is there a
place I can go to download the version before this one?
Chris

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

On 9/03/2018 5:57 p.m., Sam Taylor wrote:

Try Clamwin antivirus. it's effective, small, portable and free.


On 9/03/2018 14:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:

You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:

tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea

On 9/3/2018 10:14 AM, Andrea Sherry wrote:

tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea

On 9/3/2018 9:22 AM, Igor Kaplan wrote:

Hello!
I would like to find out, if someone was able to use Propellerhead reason successfully with NVDA?
I have downloaded the trial version, it looks to be somewhat accessible and also has a lot of keyboard shortcuts, however since I have never used it before, I don't know, if it is accessible enough to do something useful!
Would love to hear some success or failure storyes!

All the best!

Igor.

Oh, and most importantly accessible.

On 9/03/2018 14:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:

You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:

tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea

On 3/8/2018 8:22 PM, Igor Kaplan wrote:

Hello!
I would like to find out, if someone was able to use Propellerhead reason successfully with NVDA?
I have downloaded the trial version, it looks to be somewhat accessible and also has a lot of keyboard shortcuts, however since I have never used it before, I don't know, if it is accessible enough to do something useful!
Would love to hear some success or failure storyes!

All the best!

Igor.

On 3/8/2018 9:14 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:

tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to
control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea

Try Clamwin antivirus. it's effective, small, portable and free.

You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:

tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea

On 9 Mar 2018, at 1:04 pm, Vlad Dragomir <vladdragomir1983@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all,

First of all, thanks to the initial poster. Without you, I would have never known about this site.

Second, has anyone attended any courses of this Cavi school? On one hand, the idea of accessible courses seems fantastic, I'm particularly interested in their computer related programmes. On the other hand, the site seems a little bit abandoned, there are contradictions on different pages, especially when it comes to availability, the newest pages are from 2017. Besides, their prices aren't as affordable as they pretend, at least from my very personal prospective. Financially, it would be a big effort for me. I might be in a minority here, so I do apologise for this last thought, but if they offered real discounts, I believe they'd have much more students. Let's face it, the blind are rarely rich, unless their names are Stevie Wonder or Andrea Bocelli. If NVAccess can offer NVDA for free and keep existing through donnations, why not CiscoVision? I humbly admit it, I have much more respect for NVAccess and their generous model, and enthusiastically became a monthly donner recently.

Sorry again, this isn't exactly related to NVDA, but I thought I'd pop in with these very unobjective remarks. Thanks for reading.

Best,

Vlad.

You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:

tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea

You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:

tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea

On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:

tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea