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Re: where can I get an older version of NVDA?

 

since i asked once and joseph gave me permission to send direct link
for download,
hear you are direct download link for nvda 2017.4 for everyone who needs it.
finally for myself, i decided to use 16.4 forever!

https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2017.4/nvda_2017.4.exe

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Could we ask exactly why you might need to do this?
Is it that an add on no longer works? If so then this needs to be reported

to the list for add ons.
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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 4:02 AM
Subject: [nvda] where can I get an older version of NVDA?


Hi all,

Today, I accidently updated to the latest version of NVDA. Is there a place

I can go to download the version before this one?
Chris





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Re: Anti Virus Program

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Defender is very like MSSE surely??

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus Program


hThat's what I'm after.

I find Defender somewhat difficult to navigate.

Andrea


On 9/03/2018 3:57 PM, Sam Taylor wrote:

Oh, and most importantly accessible.


On 9/03/2018 14:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:
You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps, all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea


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Re: Propellerhead reason accessibility

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Audio production I think. Not tried it though, everyone reckons reaper, but had heard it was not totally accessible either. Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Propellerhead reason accessibility


Hi Igor,


Never heard of this one, what type of program is it.


Tony


On 3/8/2018 8:22 PM, Igor Kaplan wrote:
Hello!
I would like to find out, if someone was able to use Propellerhead reason successfully with NVDA?
I have downloaded the trial version, it looks to be somewhat accessible and also has a lot of keyboard shortcuts, however since I have never used it before, I don't know, if it is accessible enough to do something useful!
Would love to hear some success or failure storyes!

All the best!

Igor.






Re: Anti Virus Program

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Really? Not the version I tried it was like driving a boat through treacle.
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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus Program


Oh, and most importantly accessible.


On 9/03/2018 14:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:
You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps, all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea


Re: Anti Virus Program

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And slow and not very accessible either.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Taylor" <samtaylor9@me.com>
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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus Program


Try Clamwin antivirus. it's effective, small, portable and free.


On 9/03/2018 14:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:
You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps, all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea


Re: Anti Virus Program

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Yes take the cheap route, just tirm he computer off and leave it off, very safe and costs nothing.. grin
I do feel we are losing our way. Most of the exploits are aimed at people not exploits.
Obviously they will need to patch holes, but expecting anti virus systems to protect from everything is really impossible in my view. The more they try to find everything the more they slow the computer down and trigger false positives, and of course since everyone except Microsoft seem to have designed their front ends inaccessibly, there is no hope for us.
That is my reading of the current situation. I'll let you know when my completely unprotected amd chipped xp machines get clobbered. Probably not for a long while unless I'm very unlucky.
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus Program


You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps, all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea


Re: CAVI is offering free audio editing classes

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Can we not start this my screenreader is better than yours thread again?
Pretty please?
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Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CAVI is offering free audio editing classes


first its not only schools and government agencies that purchase Jaws. Do you think they have 0 consumers that purchase or purchase SMAs?
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Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CAVI is offering free audio editing classes


well to be honest, I just read an article on the decline of streaming music and I guess some of that stuff just doesn't last continuously.

I mean vfo has just about everything, but I know other products and companies are no more.

I am sure if the governments and schools were not buying jaws then jaws wouldn't exist either.



On 9/03/2018 1:57 a.m., Robert Kingett wrote:
I don't know about, anymore, but if that's true, that is very sad. The only blindness ventures that seem to stay alive are the open source projects. Wonder why Hadley is still standing, though.




Re: Email clients for windows 7 32 bits, anny recommendation?

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This sounds like it has nothing to do with the client. I know lots of people using Tbird on 32 bit versions of 7 with no problems at all. I think we need to dig a little deeper into this before throwing away the existing bathwater, as it were.
How many accounts do you have. are they all affected. Do you have the same set ups on both machines and have you told the servers to keep copies on the server so you can download to both. if both sending and receiving are affected. has it ever worked? If yes could the firewall be stopping it? Anti virus maybe?
What errors do you see?
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Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:04 PM
Subject: [nvda] Email clients for windows 7 32 bits, anny recommendation?


Hi folks,

I have two machines: in one of them I use windows 7 64 bit and thunderbird as my default email client. However, on my windows 7 32 bit laptop, thunderbird doesn't work anny more, since I can not send or receive emails. Is there anny thing I can install in order to be able to read my email on that machine?



Re: can't get the download button to work on this website

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Yes as I pointed out earlier, somebody hijacked the thread from another subject altogether. probably in error.
Brian

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Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get the download button to work on this website


We have lots of confusion going on here. The original post had nothing
to do with NVDA, and how to download it.



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On 3/8/2018 2:29 PM, Casey wrote:
hi I would like to down load this as well.

So how do you once you find the down load button get it to start down
loading?


On 3/8/2018 12:57 PM, Brice Mijares wrote:
I remember this happening in the past, I think the download link said
bullet before the link to download. I hit NVDA f-7 for the list of
links and found the download link, and hit enter and it worked.
Easier to go innto NVDA and check for updates.




Re: NVDA 2018.1 released

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Is this the store version of the new version or the store version of any version, if you get my drift, as from some of the comments in github recently it seemed to be being stated a version was up already.
Not that I myself care, not running 10 on my own machine. A wise move from what I've heard from friends of mine.
Incidentally 10s seems to be being abandoned in favour of the full windows with an S mode available as an option.
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Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.1 released


Hi,

The Store version isn’t up yet.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Florian Iona?cu
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.1 released



Hello everyone, I am waiting NVDA for Windows Store to be released. I'd like to find out its release date.


Re: where can I get an older version of NVDA?

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Could we ask exactly why you might need to do this?
Is it that an add on no longer works? If so then this needs to be reported to the list for add ons.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Judd" <chrischas0805@charter.net>
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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 4:02 AM
Subject: [nvda] where can I get an older version of NVDA?


Hi all,

Today, I accidently updated to the latest version of NVDA. Is there a place I can go to download the version before this one?
Chris


Re: where can I get an older version of NVDA?

Sandra Pilz
 

Hi Quentin,


I, too, would be interested in a copy of NVDA 2017.4, because the classic Handy-Tech driver, available as an addon, doesn't work with the current version of NVDA. I know that NVDA has integrated a newer Driver. However, the current driver is not able to reconnect automatically and reliably when the display looses connection. The old driver, made available by HandyTech as an addon, would reconnect in less than a second. Currently, a disconnect occurs about every five minutes, and I would like to return to NVDA 2017.4 so that I can use the old driver via the HandyTech Classic addon again.


Best


Sandra


Am 09.03.2018 um 06:43 schrieb Quentin Christensen:

Hi Chris,

Are you unhappy with the new version?  We know it's not perfect, but I'd be keen to hear of anything that behaves worse than in the previous version?

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Chris Judd <chrischas0805@...> wrote:
Hi all,
 
Today, I accidently updated to the latest version of NVDA.  Is there a place I can go to download the version before this one?
Chris
 



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Braille support in Google Sheets with NVDA 2018.1

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello Quentin and all,
I have screen reader support enabled, braille support enabled in Google docs.
Unfortunately, I still cannot find any option in the Google Sheets settings, to enable Braille Support.
In their help section Google say:
"Turn on Braille support
1. Open a Docs file on your computer: 
•Docs, Slides, or Drawings: Open the file in Google Chrome, Firefox, Safari, or Internet Explorer.
•Sheets: Braille support in Sheets is available on Chrome OS with the ChromeVox screen reader. Please make sure that you have the latest versions of Chrome OS and ChromeVox. We’re working to add support for other platforms and screen readers.
2. If you haven't already turned on screen reader support for the Docs editors, press Ctrl + Alt + z (Windows) or ⌘ + Option + z (Mac).
3. In the Accessibility menu, select Settings.
4. Select Enable Braille support.
If you turn Braille support on in Docs, Sheets, Slides, or Drawings, the setting applies whenever you sign in to any of these editors."
See: https://support.google.com/docs/answer/6057417?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en
On this page, https://venturebeat.com/2018/01/09/google-adds-braille-support-to-sheets-magnifier-tool-to-slides-and-drawings/
they say:
"Braille displays can already be used to read and edit texts in Docs, Slides, and Drawings. With the added support for Sheets, users will now be able to read and edit cell contents, as well as navigate between cells on a sheet. According to Google’s blog post, this will only be available on Chrome OS with the ChromeVox screen reader, for now. The company says it is working to add support for other platforms and screen readers."
So I thought that with this announcement on what's new in NVDA, the support would work, but it still does not here.
Thank you for any information you can find.
Best
Sylvie

Le 09/03/2018 à 06:16, Quentin Christensen a écrit :
Hi Sylvie,

I must admit I need to test this more myself, but reading: https://support.google.com/docs/answer/6057417?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en it indicates you need to enable screen reader support, and then enable braille support as well in Google sheets itself.  It also gives a little info on using the routing keys on the display to navigate.

Let me know whether that does or doesn't help!

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 3:22 AM, Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...> wrote:

Hello Quentin and all,

Thanks for the good news on NVDA 2018.1.

While reading "what's new" in this version, I saw the following statement:

"Early support for Google Sheets with Braille mode enabled. (#7935)"

What does it mean?

I could not get Braille to work in Google Sheets with this new version.

Thank you for your response.

Best

Sylvie

Le 08/03/2018 à 06:23, Quentin Christensen a écrit :
Hi everyone,

The first release of #NVDASR for 2018 is finally here. Links to download and what's new in this release found at:


While downloading, please consider helping us to continue our work by making a single donation or becoming a monthly donor at http://nvaccess.org/donate

NVDA is empowering the blind across the world. Check out how in our recent video: https://youtu.be/Ks7AwV_uxO0
The first release of #NVDASR for 2018 is finally here. Links to download and what's new in this release found at:


While downloading, please consider helping us to continue our work by making a single donation or becoming a monthly donor at http://nvaccess.org/donate

NVDA is empowering the blind across the world. Check out how in our recent video: https://youtu.be/Ks7AwV_uxO0


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Re: Anti Virus Program

 

On that note, what steps can we do to reduce false positives exactly.

Issue, just about every blind related thing bgt excluded since that can't be helped as such because of its design is being flagged as a virus, excluding things does help, but there are old vb6 programs saying this, is there anything say a user can do, ie create an exclude list of things they can share, or have some dictionary of programs or something one could upload somewhere, there are just so many false alarms.

On 9/03/2018 7:13 p.m., Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi. Windows defender is efficient enough these days.  Avg has no accessible value, at least not to my knowledge.  Cheers!


On 9/3/2018 10:14 AM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea


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Re: Email clients for windows 7 32 bits, anny recommendation?

 

Hello everyone!
I would use Windows Live Mail when I was using Windows 7, so I can help you. Click here to download this installation package.
 
Cheers,
Florian


Re: Anti Virus Program

Gene
 

You may get information if you ask here about how to use the program.  Are you using Windows 10, Windows 7 or Windows 8?  For Windows 7, you should use Microsoft Security Essentials.  If Windows 10, Windows Defender.  I'm not sure about Windows 8.  But the program, whichever you use, should be able to be used.  I know Microsoft Security Essentials is.  If you don't understand the interface, it can be explained.  I haven't used Windows Defender but I know people are using it.
 
Aside from that, I don't know what other programs are available now that are accessible, or reasonably so. 
 
These programs are much better than Clamwin.  They have improved over the last two years and, while not considered really good, are considered adequate by reviewers I've read.  I'm not saying you should use these programs.  I'm saying that they are considered adequate by the reviews I've read recently and also that if you have a problem with a program, if you ask about it rather than just assume it isn't usable, you may find that it is.
 
Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus Program

hThat's what I'm after.

I find Defender somewhat difficult to navigate.

Andrea


On 9/03/2018 3:57 PM, Sam Taylor wrote:

Oh, and most importantly accessible.


On 9/03/2018 14:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:
You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea






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Re: CAVI is offering free audio editing classes

Andrew <drudwn2000@...>
 

Hello, my name is Andrew. I took one of the last courses at CAVI Reaper & Goldwave. I
will say that the instructors are top notch. I had three instructors, one left in the
middle of the course. Management had decided that you listen to a podcast and have a
Q&A session if anything heard in podcast was not clear.
I enjoyed learning Reaper and learning it with others who sought to know about Reaper.
I and others saw the flaw in their podcast and Q&A style and I'm sure that's why
enrollment numbers suffered.
I paid $250.00 for the course they are now giving away for free. Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ian Blackburn
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CAVI is offering free audio editing classes

I have attended their introduction to computer courses Way back in 2005 and 2006 They
were worthwhile doing Lectures were quite casually delivered For people in real needs
are used to be scholarships for the course Regards Ian On 9 Mar 2018, at 1:04 pm, Vlad
Dragomir <vladdragomir1983@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all,

First of all, thanks to the initial poster. Without you, I would have never known about
this site.

Second, has anyone attended any courses of this Cavi school? On one hand, the idea of
accessible courses seems fantastic, I'm particularly interested in their computer
related programmes. On the other hand, the site seems a little bit abandoned, there are
contradictions on different pages, especially when it comes to availability, the newest
pages are from 2017. Besides, their prices aren't as affordable as they pretend, at
least from my very personal prospective. Financially, it would be a big effort for me.
I might be in a minority here, so I do apologise for this last thought, but if they
offered real discounts, I believe they'd have much more students. Let's face it, the
blind are rarely rich, unless their names are Stevie Wonder or Andrea Bocelli. If
NVAccess can offer NVDA for free and keep existing through donnations, why not
CiscoVision? I humbly admit it, I have much more respect for NVAccess and their
generous model, and enthusiastically became a monthly donner recently.

Sorry again, this isn't exactly related to NVDA, but I thought I'd pop in with these
very unobjective remarks. Thanks for reading.

Best,

Vlad.


Re: where can I get an older version of NVDA?

 

which version do you need exactly?
tell me and copy its link hear for you to download.

On 3/9/18, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Chris,

Are you unhappy with the new version? We know it's not perfect, but I'd be
keen to hear of anything that behaves worse than in the previous version?

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Chris Judd <chrischas0805@charter.net>
wrote:

Hi all,

Today, I accidently updated to the latest version of NVDA. Is there a
place I can go to download the version before this one?
Chris




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Re: Anti Virus Program

 

I thought clamwin wasn't that good tests wize, also there is no on demand module.

But if it is, then I guess all I'd need to do is scan my downloads but hmmph.

On 9/03/2018 5:57 p.m., Sam Taylor wrote:
Try Clamwin antivirus. it's effective, small, portable and free.


On 9/03/2018 14:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:
You know this has popped up so much and I have decided that there just isn't anymore.

Avast could have been a great program.

Nod32 was accessible up to a point, it aint now, vipre maybe, panda antivirus maybe.

Sophos.

To be honest the fact so many lagit programs are being mistargeted, forcing users like me to have to basically leave vast parts of the os open to attack is a problem.

Some users have gone so far to exclude their drives from scanning and that does in deed fix things.

On my new system I am just going to have to exclude my backup drive from scanning because I just don't trust what windows defender will do.

As for the rest, I will have to restructure my drive, and exclude all audio games, all portable apps, all apps,  all user installed programs the only things I will leave with programs in it are windows and ms programs and my downloads folder and maybe make a folder for unprocessed files and exclude that.

Basically to use my system securely I will have to exclude pritty much half my c drive in order to not run into problems.

I may as well not use antivirus alltogether, but I have no choice, there are just to many false positives to handle.




On 9/03/2018 3:14 p.m., Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea



Re: Anti Virus Program

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi.  Windows defender is efficient enough these days.  Avg has no accessible value, at least not to my knowledge.  Cheers!

On 9/3/2018 10:14 AM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
tried free version of AVG. Setup was difficult and I was not able to control anything the program did after installation.

Is there anything better I could try?

Andrea