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Please Clarify NVDA 2018?

David Russell
 

Hello Group members,

Two questions which "should" be simple enough to answer.

- Does NVDA 2018 only work with computers and devices compatible with
Windows Ten?

- If NVDA works only with newer windows versions, is there an online
resource that will distribute Windows Ten or other said product, and
help install at a reduced cost to blind users?

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Re: bleeps when using explorer file list

Jonathan COHN
 

Could this be a preview of selected files? I don't see this behavior on my systems, though I have to say I generally don't keep any folders with large amounts of files on my Windows systems.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan 


Re: Windows10 Mail and NVDA: several bugs reported

 

Hi,
Looks like NVDA is told to use UIA directly. This is the case when
traditional means of fetching information from Word and its components won't
work (I need to better document this and others soon).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
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list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 4:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows10 Mail and NVDA: several bugs reported

I'll ask the next question which build of windows 10 is it he is using? I'm
sure Joseph will ask otherwise!
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 9:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] Windows10 Mail and NVDA: several bugs reported


Hello all.


A Spanish user asked us about the following two bugs he has with
Windows10's mail app.

-When opening a mail to read it, NVDA reports "page 1".

-When writing a message with word echo enabled and pressing space after
typing a word with accented letters or "ñ" on it NVDA doesn't report it.


Can someone try to reproduce these bugs to open an issue if needed? The
two ones happened after updating to 2018.1 and using either Eloquence or
eSpeakNG and with WinTenApps and without it.


Thanks in advance.

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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED

Chantelle Buys
 

On 3/12/18, Chantelle Buys <cbuys6@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi MNR. Vorster. Here's a link that you could try.
http://pc-talking-typing-tutor.software.informer.com/1.2/ or you could
buy the program for $130/140.

Hope it helps.

Chantelle

On 3/12/18, Christo Vorster <christo.vorster@pioneerschool.org.za> wrote:
Hi Group



We ar in need of a Talking Typing Tutor, compatible with Windows 10.



Can anybody please assist us with information, or rather, a website where
can download such material.



Please assist.



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Re: Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.

Devin Prater
 

This is a great message. Also, compare UAC to what Linux users have to do, typing in their whole root password when installing or updating programs sometimes. Compared to that, one keystroke is nothing.

 

"nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Gene" wrote:

 

It's a minimum amount of inconvenience to respond when the UAC prompt appears.  All you have to do is use the alt y command.  Why are people so casual about disabling a security feature that is minimally inconvenient?  You issue one command.  Compare that very minor inconvenience to what you may have to doo if you are infected because UAC is off.  I realize that malware can circumvent UAC, and, from what I've been told, it isn't difficult.  But still, what if you could have prevented nfection by having it on at a minimum of inconvenience?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Dennis L

Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:52 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.

 

this is why I turn off user account control.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <
joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <
nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update
utility.


Hi,
Yes, but this time, say "yes" when UAC (User Account Control) screen
appears.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arianna
Sepulveda
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 6:44 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update
utility.

Hello, All,


I just tried installing the NVDA 2018.1 update via the NVDA update utility,
and got the following error. I'm not sure what is relevant, so I just
coppied the entire output of the log viewer.

INFO - __main__ (18:37:12.331):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (18:37:12.667):
Config dir: C:\Users\englishrider91\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (18:37:12.667):
Loading config: C:\Users\englishrider91\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):
NVDA version 2018.1
INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):
Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation INFO - core.main
(18:37:12.684):
Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017,
20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:37:13.601):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (18:37:13.601):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:37:13.601):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (18:37:13.601):
Using liblouis version 3.3.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:37:13.601):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (18:37:13.753):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3
INFO - core.main (18:37:14.687):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (18:37:46.061):
Failed to execute installer
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "gui\installerGui.pyo", line 32, in doInstall
  File "config\__init__.pyo", line 192, in execElevated
  File "shellapi.pyo", line 42, in ShellExecuteEx
WindowsError: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.
ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (18:37:46.061):
Installation failed: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.

Should I try updating again?


Thanks,
Ari








Re: Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.

Brice Mijares
 

I've noticed of late, that I don't hear E-speak come up when UAC is triggered. I hear one core voice which I have chose as my synthesizer. Maybe this has confused this person.

On 3/12/2018 3:35 AM, Gene wrote:
In what version of Windows do you not hear UAC text spoken when the screen comes up?  In Windows 7 the text is spoken, from what I've read, unless you are using the portable version.  If this isn't the case, we should know it and the problem should be corrected.
Gene
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*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.
Yes because for some reason only known to Microsoft this screen does not
have any text that can be spoken by a screenreader. It would be nice if it
made a sound so you knew it was there. If you are the only user, then having
uac on seems completely pointless.
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From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com <mailto:dennisl1982@gmail.com>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update
utility.

> this is why I turn off user account control.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
<mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 9:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA
> update utility.
>
>
> Hi,
> Yes, but this time, say "yes" when UAC (User Account Control) screen
> appears.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Arianna
> Sepulveda
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 6:44 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update
> utility.
>
> Hello, All,
>
>
> I just tried installing the NVDA 2018.1 update via the NVDA update
> utility, and got the following error. I'm not sure what is relevant,
so I
> just coppied the entire output of the log viewer.
>
> INFO - __main__ (18:37:12.331):
> Starting NVDA
> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.667):
> Config dir: C:\Users\englishrider91\AppData\Roaming\nvda
> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (18:37:12.667):
> Loading config: C:\Users\englishrider91\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):
> NVDA version 2018.1
> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):
> Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation INFO - core.main
> (18:37:12.684):
> Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017,
> 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):
> Using comtypes version 1.1.3
> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:37:13.601):
> Loaded synthDriver eloquence
> INFO - core.main (18:37:13.601):
> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:37:13.601):
> Braille input initialized
> INFO - braille.initialize (18:37:13.601):
> Using liblouis version 3.3.0
> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:37:13.601):
> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (18:37:13.753):
> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3
> INFO - core.main (18:37:14.687):
> NVDA initialized
> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (18:37:46.061):
> Failed to execute installer
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "gui\installerGui.pyo", line 32, in doInstall
>  File "config\__init__.pyo", line 192, in execElevated
>  File "shellapi.pyo", line 42, in ShellExecuteEx
> WindowsError: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.
> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (18:37:46.061):
> Installation failed: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.
>
> Should I try updating again?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


URGENT HELP NEEDED

Christo Vorster
 

Hi Group

 

We ar in need of a Talking Typing Tutor, compatible with Windows 10.

 

Can anybody please assist us with information, or rather, a website where can download such material.

 

Please assist.

 

Christo Vorster (South Africa)

 

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Re: espeak and pronunciation of some words

Peter Beasley
 

I don't use Espeak, but if words are pronounced wrongly, change the pronunciation in the voice dictionary.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 9:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] espeak and pronunciation of some words

Yes I really think for the record often should have an audible T as well as
for still being 'FOR'

Brian!
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] espeak and pronunciation of some words


Let me remind you of the word for, which, if followed by another word, seems to sound like fur.


For example: for the time being.


It is very interesting to here it pronounced quite correctly when it is a stand alone word, as is the case in the first line of my message.


On 11/03/2018 07:54, Governor staten wrote:
I'll try to describe this as best I can. Take the word "content". The stress in this word is wrong, or, very much off. This is the case with other words too. Nazarene should sound like Nazareen. I'm sure there are other words like this I, and others, could think of.


Any word with the letter "o" is likely to have the stress wrong. Monster is another example. This could just be me. Does anyone else hear what I'm hearing?



.




Re: Question about transferring espeak data between NVDA & Braillenote touch version

Jessica D
 

Hi
I'm not sure.Can you please tell me where to check, for both versions?Thanks,Jessica

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Is this a sapi 5 version? I'd have thought the settings could be moved between them if you could figure out the storage places for both versions parameters.
brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 12:52 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question about transferring espeak data between NVDA & Braillenote touch version


Hi,
Yesterday, I bought eSpeak for my Braillenote touch.
I’m really enjoying it, and its totally boosted my productivity.
I’m now using eSpeak with NVDA, and was wondering if it was possible to transfer my settings and other data between the 2 versions?

Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from Mail for Windows 10





Webbie pdf to text new version with ocr

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I know not much about it but picked this up on another account and as there have been discussions about such things here, I thought I'd mention it.

If you put webbie into a search you should find the site.
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Re: Windows10 Mail and NVDA: several bugs reported

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I'll ask the next question which build of windows 10 is it he is using? I'm sure Joseph will ask otherwise!
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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 9:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] Windows10 Mail and NVDA: several bugs reported


Hello all.


A Spanish user asked us about the following two bugs he has with
Windows10's mail app.

-When opening a mail to read it, NVDA reports "page 1".

-When writing a message with word echo enabled and pressing space after
typing a word with accented letters or "ñ" on it NVDA doesn't report it.


Can someone try to reproduce these bugs to open an issue if needed? The
two ones happened after updating to 2018.1 and using either Eloquence or
eSpeakNG and with WinTenApps and without it.


Thanks in advance.

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Registry fixing tool in nvda

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I know a number of people here have had serious issues with browsers not reading word not working right with nvda and other associated problems.
For some time now this has been known to be due to registry issues due to uninstallers of other software not correctly registering important files. The latest next snapshot has a tool to fix this, rather predictably in its tool menu, so if you are having such issues, it may well be a good idea to try this version of nvda and use the tool.
it should do no harm, but do remember that next snaps are bleeding edge code and will need to be used with caution. Always back up your previous version and set a restore point before doing any work on registry files. Note the account that its used on has to have admin access or it won't work.

Here is what the entry says.

commit 8793a65c7aa65949a9043aafc932627ff158c90a
Author: Michael Curran <mick@nvaccess.org>
Date: Thu 08 Mar 2018 09:41:04 +1000
Installer: re-register some common COM interfaces which commonly get broken by bad uninstallers.
Raw diff
commit d3a9795e75cdbe9241d11eecb9a98fbe774a17f7
Author: Michael Curran <mick@nvaccess.org>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 12:06:37 +1000
COMRegistrationFixes tool: add a backslash to the systemDrive. Also deremove some unused functions.
Raw diff
commit 3a5abd72a307fbe02779111dfee3bc5f5371345d
Author: Michael Curran <mick@nvaccess.org>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 12:07:19 +1000
Add the COM Registrations Fixing tool to NVDA's Tools menu.
Raw diff
commit e1d79784de5f0b77343992e61b1fb811a9dc826e
Author: Michael Curran <mick@nvaccess.org>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 15:43:05 +1000
Add a warning dialog to the COM Registration Fixing tool when run manually from the Tools menu.
Raw diff
commit 7c2e945533f7386b4b3142281e23009997f5d801
Author: Michael Curran <mick@nvaccess.org>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 17:44:10 +1000
Add copyright header
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commit 877362bde2e108fae69c067cb26bdd797843caa8
Author: Michael Curran <mick@nvaccess.org>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 17:48:11 +1000
Add a module docstring
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commit e550d32924b55272e05254eada58c9bb04fd1ae7
Author: Michael Curran <mick@nvaccess.org>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 17:55:53 +1000
Incubates #8075
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Re: Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.

Gene
 

I don't know if turning up the volume of system sounds would make it louder, nor do I know if the sound can be changed.  But there is a sound.  also, when using the portable version of NVDA, when UAC comes on, you hear the phrase, secure desktop.  I don't know what, if anything, you hear with the installed version.  But it isn't as though, when using the default setting, UAC comes on often.  I don't see a good reason to disable a Windows security feature to eliminate a minimum amount of inconvenience. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.

But its not really a sound that shouts out a different thing. At least not
on windows 7 I have its not, maybe one can change it.
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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update
utility.


There already is a UAC sound.

Gene
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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 5:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update
utility.


A sound can be associated in sounds in control panel



Whether it has a sound by default or not i cannot tell you but there is the
option to do so if one can be bothered that is





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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update
utility.



Yes because for some reason only known to Microsoft this screen does not

have any text that can be spoken by a screenreader. It would be nice if it

made a sound so you knew it was there. If you are the only user, then having

uac on seems completely pointless.

Brian



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----- Original Message -----

From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 3:52 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update

utility.





> this is why I turn off user account control.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 9:45 PM

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA

> update utility.

>

>

> Hi,

> Yes, but this time, say "yes" when UAC (User Account Control) screen

> appears.

> Cheers,

> Joseph

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arianna

> Sepulveda

> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 6:44 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update

> utility.

>

> Hello, All,

>

>

> I just tried installing the NVDA 2018.1 update via the NVDA update

> utility, and got the following error. I'm not sure what is relevant, so I

> just coppied the entire output of the log viewer.

>

> INFO - __main__ (18:37:12.331):

> Starting NVDA

> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.667):

> Config dir: C:\Users\englishrider91\AppData\Roaming\nvda

> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (18:37:12.667):

> Loading config: C:\Users\englishrider91\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):

> NVDA version 2018.1

> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):

> Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation INFO - core.main

> (18:37:12.684):

> Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017,

> 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):

> Using comtypes version 1.1.3

> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:37:13.601):

> Loaded synthDriver eloquence

> INFO - core.main (18:37:13.601):

> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:37:13.601):

> Braille input initialized

> INFO - braille.initialize (18:37:13.601):

> Using liblouis version 3.3.0

> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:37:13.601):

> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (18:37:13.753):

> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

> INFO - core.main (18:37:14.687):

> NVDA initialized

> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (18:37:46.061):

> Failed to execute installer

> Traceback (most recent call last):

>  File "gui\installerGui.pyo", line 32, in doInstall

>  File "config\__init__.pyo", line 192, in execElevated

>  File "shellapi.pyo", line 42, in ShellExecuteEx

> WindowsError: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.

> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (18:37:46.061):

> Installation failed: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.

>

> Should I try updating again?

>

>

> Thanks,

> Ari

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>














Re: Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.

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But its not really a sound that shouts out a different thing. At least not on windows 7 I have its not, maybe one can change it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.


There already is a UAC sound.

Gene
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From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 5:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.


A sound can be associated in sounds in control panel



Whether it has a sound by default or not i cannot tell you but there is the option to do so if one can be bothered that is





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Yes because for some reason only known to Microsoft this screen does not

have any text that can be spoken by a screenreader. It would be nice if it

made a sound so you knew it was there. If you are the only user, then having

uac on seems completely pointless.

Brian



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From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 3:52 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update

utility.





this is why I turn off user account control.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA
update utility.
Hi,
Yes, but this time, say "yes" when UAC (User Account Control) screen
appears.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arianna
Sepulveda
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update
utility.
Hello, All,
I just tried installing the NVDA 2018.1 update via the NVDA update
utility, and got the following error. I'm not sure what is relevant, so I
just coppied the entire output of the log viewer.
INFO - __main__ (18:37:12.331):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (18:37:12.667):
Config dir: C:\Users\englishrider91\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (18:37:12.667):
Loading config: C:\Users\englishrider91\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):
NVDA version 2018.1
INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):
Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation INFO - core.main
(18:37:12.684):
Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017,
20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:37:13.601):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (18:37:13.601):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:37:13.601):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (18:37:13.601):
Using liblouis version 3.3.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:37:13.601):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (18:37:13.753):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3
INFO - core.main (18:37:14.687):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (18:37:46.061):
Failed to execute installer
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gui\installerGui.pyo", line 32, in doInstall
File "config\__init__.pyo", line 192, in execElevated
File "shellapi.pyo", line 42, in ShellExecuteEx
WindowsError: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.
ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (18:37:46.061):
Installation failed: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.
Should I try updating again?
Thanks,
Ari


Re: Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.

Gene
 

There already is a UAC sound. 

Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.

A sound can be associated in sounds in control panel

 

Whether it has a sound by default or not i cannot tell you but there is the option to do so if one can be bothered that is

 

 

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Sent: 12 March 2018 09:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.

 

Yes because for some reason only known to Microsoft this screen does not

have any text that can be spoken by a screenreader. It would be nice if it

made a sound so you knew it was there. If you are the only user, then having

uac on seems completely pointless.

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 3:52 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update

utility.

 

 

> this is why I turn off user account control.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 9:45 PM

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA

> update utility.

> Hi,

> Yes, but this time, say "yes" when UAC (User Account Control) screen

> appears.

> Cheers,

> Joseph

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arianna

> Sepulveda

> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 6:44 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update

> utility.

> Hello, All,

> I just tried installing the NVDA 2018.1 update via the NVDA update

> utility, and got the following error. I'm not sure what is relevant, so I

> just coppied the entire output of the log viewer.

> INFO - __main__ (18:37:12.331):

> Starting NVDA

> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.667):

> Config dir: C:\Users\englishrider91\AppData\Roaming\nvda

> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (18:37:12.667):

> Loading config: C:\Users\englishrider91\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):

> NVDA version 2018.1

> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):

> Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation INFO - core.main

> (18:37:12.684):

> Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017,

> 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):

> Using comtypes version 1.1.3

> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:37:13.601):

> Loaded synthDriver eloquence

> INFO - core.main (18:37:13.601):

> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:37:13.601):

> Braille input initialized

> INFO - braille.initialize (18:37:13.601):

> Using liblouis version 3.3.0

> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:37:13.601):

> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (18:37:13.753):

> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

> INFO - core.main (18:37:14.687):

> NVDA initialized

> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (18:37:46.061):

> Failed to execute installer

> Traceback (most recent call last):

>  File "gui\installerGui.pyo", line 32, in doInstall

>  File "config\__init__.pyo", line 192, in execElevated

>  File "shellapi.pyo", line 42, in ShellExecuteEx

> WindowsError: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.

> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (18:37:46.061):

> Installation failed: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.

> Should I try updating again?

> Thanks,

> Ari

>

>

 

 

 

 


Re: Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.

Gene
 

In what version of Windows do you not hear UAC text spoken when the screen comes up?  In Windows 7 the text is spoken, from what I've read, unless you are using the portable version.  If this isn't the case, we should know it and the problem should be corrected.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.

Yes because for some reason only known to Microsoft this screen does not
have any text that can be spoken by a screenreader. It would be nice if it
made a sound so you knew it was there. If you are the only user, then having
uac on seems completely pointless.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update
utility.


> this is why I turn off user account control.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 9:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA
> update utility.
>
>
> Hi,
> Yes, but this time, say "yes" when UAC (User Account Control) screen
> appears.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arianna
> Sepulveda
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 6:44 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update
> utility.
>
> Hello, All,
>
>
> I just tried installing the NVDA 2018.1 update via the NVDA update
> utility, and got the following error. I'm not sure what is relevant, so I
> just coppied the entire output of the log viewer.
>
> INFO - __main__ (18:37:12.331):
> Starting NVDA
> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.667):
> Config dir: C:\Users\englishrider91\AppData\Roaming\nvda
> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (18:37:12.667):
> Loading config: C:\Users\englishrider91\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):
> NVDA version 2018.1
> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):
> Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation INFO - core.main
> (18:37:12.684):
> Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017,
> 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):
> Using comtypes version 1.1.3
> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:37:13.601):
> Loaded synthDriver eloquence
> INFO - core.main (18:37:13.601):
> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:37:13.601):
> Braille input initialized
> INFO - braille.initialize (18:37:13.601):
> Using liblouis version 3.3.0
> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:37:13.601):
> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (18:37:13.753):
> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3
> INFO - core.main (18:37:14.687):
> NVDA initialized
> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (18:37:46.061):
> Failed to execute installer
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "gui\installerGui.pyo", line 32, in doInstall
>  File "config\__init__.pyo", line 192, in execElevated
>  File "shellapi.pyo", line 42, in ShellExecuteEx
> WindowsError: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.
> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (18:37:46.061):
> Installation failed: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.
>
> Should I try updating again?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.

Gene
 

It's a minimum amount of inconvenience to respond when the UAC prompt appears.  All you have to do is use the alt y command.  Why are people so casual about disabling a security feature that is minimally inconvenient?  You issue one command.  Compare that very minor inconvenience to what you may have to doo if you are infected because UAC is off.  I realize that malware can circumvent UAC, and, from what I've been told, it isn't difficult.  But still, what if you could have prevented nfection by having it on at a minimum of inconvenience?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.

this is why I turn off user account control.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update
utility.


Hi,
Yes, but this time, say "yes" when UAC (User Account Control) screen
appears.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arianna
Sepulveda
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update
utility.

Hello, All,


I just tried installing the NVDA 2018.1 update via the NVDA update utility,
and got the following error. I'm not sure what is relevant, so I just
coppied the entire output of the log viewer.

INFO - __main__ (18:37:12.331):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (18:37:12.667):
Config dir: C:\Users\englishrider91\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (18:37:12.667):
Loading config: C:\Users\englishrider91\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):
NVDA version 2018.1
INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):
Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation INFO - core.main
(18:37:12.684):
Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017,
20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:37:13.601):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (18:37:13.601):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:37:13.601):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (18:37:13.601):
Using liblouis version 3.3.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:37:13.601):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (18:37:13.753):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3
INFO - core.main (18:37:14.687):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (18:37:46.061):
Failed to execute installer
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "gui\installerGui.pyo", line 32, in doInstall
  File "config\__init__.pyo", line 192, in execElevated
  File "shellapi.pyo", line 42, in ShellExecuteEx
WindowsError: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.
ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (18:37:46.061):
Installation failed: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.

Should I try updating again?


Thanks,
Ari









Re: Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.

Chris
 

A sound can be associated in sounds in control panel

 

Whether it has a sound by default or not i cannot tell you but there is the option to do so if one can be bothered that is

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 12 March 2018 09:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.

 

Yes because for some reason only known to Microsoft this screen does not

have any text that can be spoken by a screenreader. It would be nice if it

made a sound so you knew it was there. If you are the only user, then having

uac on seems completely pointless.

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 3:52 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update

utility.

 

 

> this is why I turn off user account control.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 9:45 PM

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA

> update utility.

> Hi,

> Yes, but this time, say "yes" when UAC (User Account Control) screen

> appears.

> Cheers,

> Joseph

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arianna

> Sepulveda

> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 6:44 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update

> utility.

> Hello, All,

> I just tried installing the NVDA 2018.1 update via the NVDA update

> utility, and got the following error. I'm not sure what is relevant, so I

> just coppied the entire output of the log viewer.

> INFO - __main__ (18:37:12.331):

> Starting NVDA

> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.667):

> Config dir: C:\Users\englishrider91\AppData\Roaming\nvda

> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (18:37:12.667):

> Loading config: C:\Users\englishrider91\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):

> NVDA version 2018.1

> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):

> Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation INFO - core.main

> (18:37:12.684):

> Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017,

> 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

> INFO - core.main (18:37:12.684):

> Using comtypes version 1.1.3

> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:37:13.601):

> Loaded synthDriver eloquence

> INFO - core.main (18:37:13.601):

> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:37:13.601):

> Braille input initialized

> INFO - braille.initialize (18:37:13.601):

> Using liblouis version 3.3.0

> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:37:13.601):

> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (18:37:13.753):

> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

> INFO - core.main (18:37:14.687):

> NVDA initialized

> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (18:37:46.061):

> Failed to execute installer

> Traceback (most recent call last):

>  File "gui\installerGui.pyo", line 32, in doInstall

>  File "config\__init__.pyo", line 192, in execElevated

>  File "shellapi.pyo", line 42, in ShellExecuteEx

> WindowsError: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.

> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (18:37:46.061):

> Installation failed: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.

> Should I try updating again?

> Thanks,

> Ari

>

>

 

 

 

 


Windows10 Mail and NVDA: several bugs reported

Iván Novegil
 

Hello all.


A Spanish user asked us about the following two bugs he has with Windows10's mail app.

-When opening a mail to read it, NVDA reports "page 1".

-When writing a message with word echo enabled and pressing space after typing a word with accented letters or "ñ" on it NVDA doesn't report it.


Can someone try to reproduce these bugs to open an issue if needed? The two ones happened after updating to 2018.1 and using either Eloquence or eSpeakNG and with WinTenApps and without it.


Thanks in advance.

Regards.

--

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