Hello,

Actually NVDA does not ALLOWS to show line numbers on display braille.

If it is necessary, a solution could be an add-on

with a shortcut to toggle the report of line number.

Cheers.




Chris.

ilanvpnina@gmail.com, 03/05/2016 14:36:

[Edited Message Follows]

hello i am deaf and blind

and using nvda

i tried all shortcuts and also

changed

the pref. document fromatting to include line nmuber

but i dont see the braille number in my braille dispaly

any idea or help?

thanks

#HELP #BUG #DEAF

Hi,
I am presently using a HP Laptop with a Wireless (not bluetooth)
keyboard. The keyboard is a Logitech K330 desktop keyboard.
Is there any reason why this shpuld not work with NVDA.
Rgds,William
------ Original Message ------
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 04/05/2016 15:07:08
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA GENERAL,

If your keyboard contains a numpad, the desktop layout will work if
the keyboard can be used in that way. The purpose of the laptop
layout is for use on keyboards without numpads. If short cut commands
don't work on your keyboard using the numpad, your keyboard may not be
compatible for thatkind of use. I have heard of instances where
wireless keyboards can't be used in this way. You can try the laptop
layout and see if those commands will work if you wish. If they
don't, you may want to ask here about wireless keyboards people use
and know are compatible using whatever keyboard choice you set in NVDA.
gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* willmac@lantic.net <mailto:willmac@lantic.net>
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 04, 2016 7:42 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA GENERAL,

Hi Ollie,

Thank you for your response. I am using a laptop but am using a
wireless logitech full keyboards.

Is this a problem? Would usb keyboard be any diffent?

Regards,

William

------ Original Message ------
From: "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 04/05/2016 13:49:54
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA GENERAL,

Hello William,


I'm definitely not an NVDA proficient user, but your last sentence made
me think.


Are you using a laptop, by any chance?


If so, you should set your keyboard layout to "Laptop"

(NVDA Menu - Keyboard settings), and then follow the list of commands
and keyboard shortcuts for laptops, rather than the one for desktops.


hth,

Ollie





Il 04/05/2016 11:45, willmac@lantic.net <mailto:willmac@lantic.net>

ha scritto:

Hi All,
I am new to this group and must apologise at the outset for my
ignorance if I am not following tghe correct Protocol.
I am partially sight impaired and the deteriation seems to be more
rapid at he moment which has resulted in my looking for
a program which will assist me to operate my computer.
I recently installed NVDA and it seem to just what I need.
However, I seem to have difficulty in mastering even the basics and am
wondering if I can get some assistance. (Skype???)
Very few of the shortcut keys seem to work for me.
Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
Regards,
William

If your keyboard contains a numpad, the desktop layout will work if the keyboard can be used in that way.  The purpose of the laptop layout is for use on keyboards without numpads.  If short cut commands don't work on your keyboard using the numpad, your keyboard may not be compatible for thatkind of use.  I have heard of instances where wireless keyboards can't be used in this way.  You can try the laptop layout and see if those commands will work if you wish.  If they don't, you may want to ask here about wireless keyboards people use and know are compatible using whatever keyboard choice you set in NVDA.

 

gene

----- Original Message -----

From: willmac@...

Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 7:42 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA GENERAL,

Hi Ollie,

Thank you for your response.  I am using a laptop but am using a
wireless logitech full keyboards.

Is this a problem?  Would usb keyboard be any diffent?

Regards,

William

------ Original Message ------
From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: 04/05/2016 13:49:54
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA GENERAL,
>Hello William,
>
>
>I'm definitely not an NVDA proficient user, but your last sentence made
>me think.
>
>
>Are you using a laptop, by any chance?
>
>
>If so, you should set your keyboard layout to "Laptop"
>
>(NVDA Menu - Keyboard settings), and then follow the list of commands
>and keyboard shortcuts for laptops, rather than the one for desktops.
>
>
>hth,
>
>Ollie
>
>
>
>
>
>Il 04/05/2016 11:45, willmac@... ha scritto:
>>Hi All,
>>I am new to this group and must apologise at the outset for my
>>ignorance if I am not following tghe correct Protocol.
>>I am partially sight impaired and the deteriation seems to be more
>>rapid at he moment which has resulted in my looking for
>>a program which will assist me to operate my computer.
>>I recently installed NVDA and it seem to just what I need.
>>However, I seem to have difficulty in mastering even the basics and am
>>wondering if I can get some assistance. (Skype???)
>>Very few of the shortcut keys seem to work for me.
>>Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
>>Regards,
>>William
>>
>
>
>
>

[Edited Message Follows]

hello i am deaf and blind

and using nvda

i tried all shortcuts and also

changed

the pref. document fromatting to include line nmuber

but i dont see the braille number in my braille dispaly

any idea or help?

thanks

#HELP #BUG #DEAF

Hi, I was just wondering two things. First, is it possible to move by
large chunks of text like paragraphs with nvda? Second, is it possible to
insert place markers into documents like you can with Jaws? Thx

Tony JAmes, untouched and alive!

hmmm if you go to codecguide.com and get the klite codec pack then it
should work.
it will have some adds but you can uncheck them.
also get vlc codecguide has this to.



On 5/05/2016 5:23 p.m., Shweta Mishra wrote:

OK,
actually, I'm looking for converter because, I'm facing problem in
playing webm and wma files.
my nokia c5 phone also doesn't support these formats.

On 5/4/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

Recording programs are inefficient converters. If you are converting a
compressed format to another format, you first have to wait while the
file
is uncompressed and loaded in the player. That is wasted time. File
Converters don’t load an entire file before beginning to convert.

Also, using a large and complex recording program to do conversions is
overkill. It's like using Microsoft Word to write a two line note to
yourself.

Gene


From: John from Woodside Apps
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 5:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can
convert wma or webm files to mp3


Hello
Just to offer a different viewpoint
if you are using audio files what about
Audacity

John from Woodside Apps.
Accessible Apps and games for mobile devices.
Android - Talking Stones FREE version is at
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=woodsideapps.stones.free

On 04/05/2016 10:56, Shweta Mishra wrote:

hi!
yes, I've downloaded from the site which you gave.
and I've checked custom installation radio button.
still I'm getting same error.
there might be some problem in my laptop.
anyways, thanks for your help!

On 5/4/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
I looked on ninite.com and Free Make is not there to download. I
thought
I
would looke on that website, because you can download a lot of
programs
from

that site very easily. I hope you can get it to work and be able to
use
the

steps I gave you guys to use Free Make. I am going to get some sleep,
so
I
will check back later. Take care.


-----Original Message-----
From: Shweta Mishra
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 3:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which
can
convert wma or webm files to mp3

hi david and all!
I've downloaded freeree make video converter successfully, but it's
not installing on my laptop.
I'm getting error that is, "setup files are corrupted please retain
fresh copy".I've downloaded the same software 2 3 times, but same
error.
could you please tell me why is it happening? and what should I do
now?

On 5/4/16, Shweta Mishra <shweta.mishra668@gmail.com> wrote:

thanks david!I've downloaded free make video converter.
could you please tell me the steps to use it?


On 5/4/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, You want free make video converter.
If you want to convert a file into different formats. Free Make
video
converter is your ticket. It is free and very accessible.
www.freemake.com/free_video_converter Cached
Similar
Freemake Video Converter converts video between 500+ formats and
gadgets
free! Convert to MP4, MP3, AVI, MKV, iPhone, Android. ... Freemake
Video
Converter supports all popular and rare formats: MP4, AVI, MKV, WMV,
MP3,
DVD, 3GP, SWF, FLV, HD, MOV, RM, QT, Divx, Xvid, TS, MTS, Fraps .
Also, There is a website where you can upload your file and have it
converted into many different formats:
www.convertfiles.com
There are two great options for you. Free make is very powerful, and
the
convertfiles web site is good as well. I wish you the best.


-----Original Message-----
From: Shweta Mishra
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 1:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can
convert

wma or webm files to mp3

hi friends!
hope all are fine.
as the subject line says, I need a free and accessible file
converter
which can convert wma or webm files to mp3.
I'm using windows 7 64 bit asus laptop with NVDA.
any help will be appreciated.
thanks in advance!

--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.

--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.

--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.

OK,
actually, I'm looking for converter because, I'm facing problem in
playing webm and wma files.
my nokia c5 phone also doesn't support these formats.

On 5/4/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

Recording programs are inefficient converters. If you are converting a
compressed format to another format, you first have to wait while the file
is uncompressed and loaded in the player. That is wasted time. File
Converters don’t load an entire file before beginning to convert.

Also, using a large and complex recording program to do conversions is
overkill. It's like using Microsoft Word to write a two line note to
yourself.

Gene


From: John from Woodside Apps
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 5:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can
convert wma or webm files to mp3


Hello
Just to offer a different viewpoint
if you are using audio files what about
Audacity

John from Woodside Apps.
Accessible Apps and games for mobile devices.
Android - Talking Stones FREE version is at
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=woodsideapps.stones.free

On 04/05/2016 10:56, Shweta Mishra wrote:

hi!
yes, I've downloaded from the site which you gave.
and I've checked custom installation radio button.
still I'm getting same error.
there might be some problem in my laptop.
anyways, thanks for your help!

On 5/4/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
I looked on ninite.com and Free Make is not there to download. I thought
I
would looke on that website, because you can download a lot of programs
from

that site very easily. I hope you can get it to work and be able to use
the

steps I gave you guys to use Free Make. I am going to get some sleep, so
I
will check back later. Take care.


-----Original Message-----
From: Shweta Mishra
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 3:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can
convert wma or webm files to mp3

hi david and all!
I've downloaded freeree make video converter successfully, but it's
not installing on my laptop.
I'm getting error that is, "setup files are corrupted please retain
fresh copy".I've downloaded the same software 2 3 times, but same
error.
could you please tell me why is it happening? and what should I do now?

On 5/4/16, Shweta Mishra <shweta.mishra668@gmail.com> wrote:

thanks david!I've downloaded free make video converter.
could you please tell me the steps to use it?


On 5/4/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, You want free make video converter.
If you want to convert a file into different formats. Free Make video
converter is your ticket. It is free and very accessible.
www.freemake.com/free_video_converter Cached
Similar
Freemake Video Converter converts video between 500+ formats and
gadgets
free! Convert to MP4, MP3, AVI, MKV, iPhone, Android. ... Freemake
Video
Converter supports all popular and rare formats: MP4, AVI, MKV, WMV,
MP3,
DVD, 3GP, SWF, FLV, HD, MOV, RM, QT, Divx, Xvid, TS, MTS, Fraps .
Also, There is a website where you can upload your file and have it
converted into many different formats:
www.convertfiles.com
There are two great options for you. Free make is very powerful, and
the
convertfiles web site is good as well. I wish you the best.


-----Original Message-----
From: Shweta Mishra
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 1:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can
convert

wma or webm files to mp3

hi friends!
hope all are fine.
as the subject line says, I need a free and accessible file converter
which can convert wma or webm files to mp3.
I'm using windows 7 64 bit asus laptop with NVDA.
any help will be appreciated.
thanks in advance!

--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.

--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.

--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.

Recording programs are inefficient converters. If you are converting a
compressed format to another format, you first have to wait while the file
is uncompressed and loaded in the player. That is wasted time. File
Converters don’t load an entire file before beginning to convert.

Also, using a large and complex recording program to do conversions is
overkill. It's like using Microsoft Word to write a two line note to
yourself.

Gene


From: John from Woodside Apps
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 5:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can
convert wma or webm files to mp3


Hello
Just to offer a different viewpoint
if you are using audio files what about
Audacity

John from Woodside Apps.
Accessible Apps and games for mobile devices.
Android - Talking Stones FREE version is at
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=woodsideapps.stones.free

On 04/05/2016 10:56, Shweta Mishra wrote:

hi!
yes, I've downloaded from the site which you gave.
and I've checked custom installation radio button.
still I'm getting same error.
there might be some problem in my laptop.
anyways, thanks for your help!

On 5/4/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
I looked on ninite.com and Free Make is not there to download. I thought
I
would looke on that website, because you can download a lot of programs
from

that site very easily. I hope you can get it to work and be able to use
the

steps I gave you guys to use Free Make. I am going to get some sleep, so
I
will check back later. Take care.


-----Original Message-----
From: Shweta Mishra
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 3:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can
convert wma or webm files to mp3

hi david and all!
I've downloaded freeree make video converter successfully, but it's
not installing on my laptop.
I'm getting error that is, "setup files are corrupted please retain
fresh copy".I've downloaded the same software 2 3 times, but same
error.
could you please tell me why is it happening? and what should I do now?

On 5/4/16, Shweta Mishra <shweta.mishra668@gmail.com> wrote:

thanks david!I've downloaded free make video converter.
could you please tell me the steps to use it?


On 5/4/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, You want free make video converter.
If you want to convert a file into different formats. Free Make video
converter is your ticket. It is free and very accessible.
www.freemake.com/free_video_converter Cached
Similar
Freemake Video Converter converts video between 500+ formats and
gadgets
free! Convert to MP4, MP3, AVI, MKV, iPhone, Android. ... Freemake
Video
Converter supports all popular and rare formats: MP4, AVI, MKV, WMV,
MP3,
DVD, 3GP, SWF, FLV, HD, MOV, RM, QT, Divx, Xvid, TS, MTS, Fraps .
Also, There is a website where you can upload your file and have it
converted into many different formats:
www.convertfiles.com
There are two great options for you. Free make is very powerful, and
the
convertfiles web site is good as well. I wish you the best.


-----Original Message-----
From: Shweta Mishra
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 1:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can
convert

wma or webm files to mp3

hi friends!
hope all are fine.
as the subject line says, I need a free and accessible file converter
which can convert wma or webm files to mp3.
I'm using windows 7 64 bit asus laptop with NVDA.
any help will be appreciated.
thanks in advance!

--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.

--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.

--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.

Pawel,
it is possible to fix that via an addon I think. we need a regular
expression to cut the positional info from the menu item name when it gains
focus.
I agree that this is a bug because, menu items should not be exposed that
way.

regards,
Mohammad

On 5/2/2016 5:19 AM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:

Hi Mohammad,
Thanks for your reply. Thinking about the first issue with the
intelisense...
Since we are overwriting the control, can't we use the value of the
suggested completion and use NVDA's speech / braille functions to say
it / display it?

I think, we could also file a bug report to Microsoft and describe the
issue behind it.

Greetings,
Pawel

On 5/2/16, mohammad suliman <mohmad.s93@gmail.com> wrote:

hello,
actually, writing an app module for visual studio is on my to do list.
regarding the problems you mentioned with Intelisense:
don't know if most users will find it better without announcing the
positional info of each possible completion menu item. the problem here
also is not NVDA, the problem is how the list / menu item is exposed.
the name of the menu item includes that positional info.
regarding second problem: yes, i think that it is better for us all to
not have that lengthy announcement after the completion list is closed.

best,
Mohammad
On 4/30/2016 4:31 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

Ok, think have fixed those/the relevant errors - was my own mistake
since used a regular expression search/replace to strip out line
numbers when copied python script source from the gitHub page, but,
think have now fixed all the missing number values on line endings.

Still not rendering too much to me - file menu, new, project, and it
tells me it's the new project window, but, doesn't render any of the
internal controls in it.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-30 2:51 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

Syntax error on line 63 of devenv.py:
#start of snippet
VsVersion_None =
VsVersion_2002 =
VsVersion_2003 =
VsVersion_2005 =
VsVersion_2008 =
#end of snippet

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-30 12:52 PM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:

Will check the logs. Do you think you could find a while and as the
last thing copy and paste the errors in this thread?

On 4/30/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:

Ok, if look in the NVDA log, it's still throwing up errors, so seems
there might be an issue with how extracted source for the devenv.py
file
to place in that path.

So, sorry, NVDA is still not rendering much to me in terms of VS.Net
2015, so can't help with anything relating to intellisense, etc.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's
closet..."

On 2016-04-30 12:17 PM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:

Sounds like a good place. Telling it off the top of my head. Cannot
check it on the machine I am writing now.
But, getting back to my oryginal problem: how can we turn off
reading
item possition in the Intelisense popup? And then hearing all th
etime
the window title when we leave the popup after picking the function
/
whatever object...?

On 4/30/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:

Ok, extracted python source.

Do I just place devenv.py in the following path?

c:\users\userName\appData\roaming\nvda\appModules

Thanks in advance

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's
closet..."

On 2016-04-30 11:36 AM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:

Hi Jacob,
The add-on is hosted at Github at the following URL:
https://github.com/ckundo/nvda/blob/master/source/appModules/devenv.py




The devenv.py is invluded by default with NVDA.

The new project wizard is quite OK ofr me. I am using Windows 10
64-bit. Or maybe I am skipping some elements without knowing
they are
on the screen since NVDA is not getting them either.

I like VS for the Intelisense support, which is very convinient
in
comparason to Eclipse. You just start typing and get the list of
suggestions without dancing by pressing Control+Space as it
happens
with Eclipse.

On 4/30/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:

What is this VS 2015 add-on referred to, or is it just included
as
part
of NVDA itself?

Asking since also, at times, play around with VS.Net 2015
community
edition, but, for example, the new project dialogue doesn't
seem to
get
read/rendered by NVDA 2016.1 at the moment, and NVDA doesn't
always
want
to react to rest of environment either?

TIA

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's
closet..."

On 2016-04-30 9:37 AM, Pawel Urbanski wrote:

Dear Group,
I am currently working using Visual Studio 2015 - the latest
update.
Since Microsoft introduced the Visual Studio Community edition,
which
used to be Professional edition, we got a very nice IDE.
There is an NVDA add-on, which is installed by default that
enhances
NVDA and VS interoperability.
The features are rather complete, but I found 2 issues:
1. When Intelisense with code suggestions popup is read, NVDA
keeps
reading the number of items in a edit combo / list, which can
get
very
annoying / flustrating.
--- What is the way using code to silence reading this
attribute?
NVDA
has the opption of not reading item possition information. Can
we
apply it to individual controls?

2. When leaving the previously mentioned Intelisense popup,
NVDA
keeps
reading the window type / title, which is way too verbose when
you
are
coding and keep jumping from the editor to Intelisense all the
time.
--- Can we control this from the add-on code?

I am not familiar with Python on the daily basis, but can find
someone
to fix the code or do it myself if the changes are minor and
can
simply follow the documentation and do little trial and error.

Thanks for any hints and tips,
Pawel

Hi list

After a lot of failed attempts, copying the .doc file to $VRtext
folder seems to have worked. It seems that the instructions that are
in the manual may need to be revised.

Cheers

Lindy

Hi list

After a lot of failed attempts, copying the .doc file to $VRtext folder
seems to have worked. It seems that the instructions that are in the manual
may need to be revised.

Cheers

Lindy