Date   

got it on win live mail

Richard Kuzma
 

Execellent, exactly what I needed .

Thanks so much

 


Re: question on windows live essentials 2011 for win 7 x64

Gene
 

Evidently, you want Windows Live Mail, not all of Windows essentials.  You can download a full installer here:
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] question on windows live essentials 2011 for win 7 x64

Dows anyone know where to get these for download.

I am rebuilding a computer for another blind person and need to get them for windows live mail,

Or can you tell me where to get the latest windows live mail for seven x64

Thanks greatly

Rich

 


question on windows live essentials 2011 for win 7 x64

Richard Kuzma
 

Dows anyone know where to get these for download.

I am rebuilding a computer for another blind person and need to get them for windows live mail,

Or can you tell me where to get the latest windows live mail for seven x64

Thanks greatly

Rich

 


Re: constant refreshing of www.cordcuttersnews.com

 

Hi,

Having come across similar situations, I’m thinking it’s got to be part of a site that’s constantly refreshing. Specifically, if an element is set as “live” such as video players, you’ll hear progress beeps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] constant refreshing of www.cordcuttersnews.com

 

This appears to be an example of what I discussed when firefox 57 came out.  the accessibility feature was removed that caused Firefox to warn when a page wanted to refresh or redirect to another page.  thee user could approve or not do anything and the refresh or redirection wouldn't occur. 

At the time, I said that those interested should send messages to those working on accessibility of Firefox.  I have no idea if anyone did.  there was an almost complete absence of comments concerning my message.  This was a major regression regarding accessibility.

 

Aside from that, if what I think is happening is happening, you may have to use a program like noscript or turn JAVA script support off before going to the page.  In general, refreshes can be stopped by not allowing scripts to run.  I'm not sure if the page is refreshing or if a region on the page is refreshing.  It might well not be necessary to do anything if the feature I discussed were still available and on.  I may see what happens when I use the page with the feature off and then on.  Others, of course, may want to do so as well.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:44 PM

Subject: [nvda] constant refreshing of www.cordcuttersnews.com

 

Hello guys. I go to this site daily to see the latest in cord cutting
and related stories. I couldn't say when this started, but, the site now
keeps refreshing or downloading something in the background. I can hear
status updates through NVDA beeping. When things refresh, I cannot hold
my place on the site.


This is probably easy to fix, but, I"m not sure how at the moment. I'm
using Firefox 59. It was doing this on Firefox 58 as well. I haven't yet
tried with Edge, Chrome or anything else. When I do, I will report back.
Any help with this is appreciated, and thanks to all in advance.



Re: constant refreshing of www.cordcuttersnews.com

Gene
 

This appears to be an example of what I discussed when firefox 57 came out.  the accessibility feature was removed that caused Firefox to warn when a page wanted to refresh or redirect to another page.  thee user could approve or not do anything and the refresh or redirection wouldn't occur. 
At the time, I said that those interested should send messages to those working on accessibility of Firefox.  I have no idea if anyone did.  there was an almost complete absence of comments concerning my message.  This was a major regression regarding accessibility.
 
Aside from that, if what I think is happening is happening, you may have to use a program like noscript or turn JAVA script support off before going to the page.  In general, refreshes can be stopped by not allowing scripts to run.  I'm not sure if the page is refreshing or if a region on the page is refreshing.  It might well not be necessary to do anything if the feature I discussed were still available and on.  I may see what happens when I use the page with the feature off and then on.  Others, of course, may want to do so as well.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:44 PM
Subject: [nvda] constant refreshing of www.cordcuttersnews.com

Hello guys. I go to this site daily to see the latest in cord cutting
and related stories. I couldn't say when this started, but, the site now
keeps refreshing or downloading something in the background. I can hear
status updates through NVDA beeping. When things refresh, I cannot hold
my place on the site.


This is probably easy to fix, but, I"m not sure how at the moment. I'm
using Firefox 59. It was doing this on Firefox 58 as well. I haven't yet
tried with Edge, Chrome or anything else. When I do, I will report back.
Any help with this is appreciated, and thanks to all in advance.




Re: constant refreshing of www.cordcuttersnews.com

 

Update: The refreshing issue does not happen with Google Chrome. Haven't tried Edge yet.

www.cordcuttersnews.com is the site in quesiton.




On 3/14/2018 12:44 AM, Governor staten wrote:
Hello guys. I go to this site daily to see the latest in cord cutting and related stories. I couldn't say when this started, but, the site now keeps refreshing or downloading something in the background. I can hear status updates through NVDA beeping. When things refresh, I cannot hold my place on the site.


This is probably easy to fix, but, I"m not sure how at the moment. I'm using Firefox 59. It was doing this on Firefox 58 as well. I haven't yet tried with Edge, Chrome or anything else. When I do, I will report back. Any help with this is appreciated, and thanks to all in advance.





constant refreshing of www.cordcuttersnews.com

 

Hello guys. I go to this site daily to see the latest in cord cutting and related stories. I couldn't say when this started, but, the site now keeps refreshing or downloading something in the background. I can hear status updates through NVDA beeping. When things refresh, I cannot hold my place on the site.


This is probably easy to fix, but, I"m not sure how at the moment. I'm using Firefox 59. It was doing this on Firefox 58 as well. I haven't yet tried with Edge, Chrome or anything else. When I do, I will report back. Any help with this is appreciated, and thanks to all in advance.


Re: problems with the mail app in nvda

David Moore
 

Yes, it has never worked better for me!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: inamuddinInam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems with the mail app in nvda

 

Dear friends, for me it is working fine!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...
Inamuddin.ronaque@...
outlook:
inam092@...
yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

 

From: Bobby Vinton
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] problems with the mail app in nvda

 

Hay when I am using the mail app with nvda nvda crashes every time I close the mail app after reading a message.  This just started last week when I updated to nvda 2018.1.  I was wondering if any else has this problem?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: problems with the mail app in nvda

inamuddinInam Uddin
 

Dear friends, for me it is working fine!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...
Inamuddin.ronaque@...
outlook:
inam092@...
yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

 

From: Bobby Vinton
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] problems with the mail app in nvda

 

Hay when I am using the mail app with nvda nvda crashes every time I close the mail app after reading a message.  This just started last week when I updated to nvda 2018.1.  I was wondering if any else has this problem?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: say copy selected text

Kevin Cussick
 

the addon is still on the sight, under development addons.

On 13/03/2018 22:18, Ian Blackburn wrote:
Sometimes addons are removed because they pose a security risk or coding issues or compatibility allsorts of reasons
On 14 Mar 2018, at 4:06 am, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@outlook.com <mailto:cyberpro224@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi,
There's an add on called clip speak, that will do this.  I don't think its on the add ons website anymore though.  I think because It works with windows 10 without a hitch that it should be; and I can drop box it too you if you like.
Tony
On 2/3/2018 1:38 PM, Kevin wrote:

How can I set NVDA to say copy selected text to the clip board and other like commands when I copy, cut or paste!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee


Re: Other tool for solving the Verification Image

Robert Mendoza
 

True, Brian! where in fact it was a wasted time for the blind or visual impaired community to have this added to their sites and yes email verification should be at least as an option


Robert Mendoza

On 3/14/2018 12:18 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Some have been better recently, but the original old version with its background noise was truly stupid. Personally, I'd have thought that by now these devices were pointless. If we all boycotted services using them, even sighted prople have issues, then they should long ago have gone the way of the dodo.
They patently do not work to stop spammers as some I've been on have had hacks and spam incidents.
Far better to make them simply use email verification confirmation.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image


Yes, the audio sometimes hardly to understand.


Robert Mendoza

On 3/13/2018 4:51 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I'm assuming there is not usable audio version on the site you want to use.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 11:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image


I know this has been posted before but could not retrieve the email about the extension or addons for Firefox that is similar with webvism. I appreciate if you could share it again here some alternative option that I could use with on the Firefox ESR to solve the capture or verification image.


--
Robert Mendoza








Re: say copy selected text

Ian Blackburn
 

Sometimes addons are removed because they pose a security risk or coding issues or compatibility allsorts of reasons


On 14 Mar 2018, at 4:06 am, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@...> wrote:

Hi,


There's an add on called clip speak, that will do this.  I don't think its on the add ons website anymore though.  I think because It works with windows 10 without a hitch that it should be; and I can drop box it too you if you like. 


Tony
On 2/3/2018 1:38 PM, Kevin wrote:

How can I set NVDA to say copy selected text to the clip board and other like commands when I copy, cut or paste!

 

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

 



Re: where to find nvda tutorials

chris miles
 

On 13/03/2018 18:18, Tony Ballou wrote:

Hi,


Sorry for responding to this so late.� Try this link.�


http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials/


Also you can go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net for more information and tutorials for NVDA and other programs.


Hope this helps.


Tony


On 3/1/2018 11:22 AM, Marisane Moruthanyana wrote:

Morning Joseph

�

I am Marisane from SA.

�

I tried to visit your website, i.e. http://www.josephsl.net, but am not able to see the content on the website.

�

How do I see it?

�

Besides, where to find the tutorials?

�

Your assistance is appreciated in advance.

�

Marisane




Re: Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

Hi,

In this case, a log and a crash dump is useful, as it then allows Nv Access to diagnose what’s up a bit better.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adriani Botez
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 2:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

You could contribute to github, there is already an issue for this situation, #7986.

 

You could explain your situation there and upload the log file as .txt file.

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Sam Bushman
Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. März 2018 22:52
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

I restarted nvda so it would be fresh. I then launched outlook – then pressed enter on the message. Outlook restarted – then I pressed nvda-f1 and copied the log to you. What else can I do to get you the relevant info?

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 3:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

Hi,

No log fragment on freezes or restarts here.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 2:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: 'Joseph Lee' <joseph.lee22590@...>
Subject: [nvda] Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

Hi Joseph and All,

 

For some reason on certain messages in outlook 2016 when I press enter on a message to read it restarts outlook.

This does not happen in JAWS but happens in NVDA. If I reboot the problem goes away for a while then comes back.

 

Please see my log for more info:

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

INFO - __main__ (15:34:40.739):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.114):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (15:34:41.114):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

NVDA version master-14940,e78e72f9

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Windows version 10.0.16299 workstation

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using comtypes version 1.1.3

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:34:42.558):

Loaded synthDriver eloquence

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.558):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Using liblouis version 3.3.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (15:34:42.565):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (15:34:42.586):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.592):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs._UIAHandlerEx.UIAHandlerEx.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.760):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.946):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 1196 (nvda_slave.exe) (15:34:49.489):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 91, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1245, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (15:35:24.890):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'PCM Plus'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x06F797B0>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: (0, 5, 120, 88)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 5576) at address 6d29e30>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'10.0.16299.15'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65912

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855744

windowThreadID: 5580

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x8f91df0 at 6e43e90>

IAccessibleChildID: 1

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65912, objectID=-4, childID=1

IAccessible accName: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED, STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (19922950)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None

 

 


Re: Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

Adriani Botez
 

You could contribute to github, there is already an issue for this situation, #7986.

 

You could explain your situation there and upload the log file as .txt file.

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Sam Bushman
Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. März 2018 22:52
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

I restarted nvda so it would be fresh. I then launched outlook – then pressed enter on the message. Outlook restarted – then I pressed nvda-f1 and copied the log to you. What else can I do to get you the relevant info?

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 3:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

Hi,

No log fragment on freezes or restarts here.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 2:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: 'Joseph Lee' <joseph.lee22590@...>
Subject: [nvda] Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

Hi Joseph and All,

 

For some reason on certain messages in outlook 2016 when I press enter on a message to read it restarts outlook.

This does not happen in JAWS but happens in NVDA. If I reboot the problem goes away for a while then comes back.

 

Please see my log for more info:

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

INFO - __main__ (15:34:40.739):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.114):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (15:34:41.114):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

NVDA version master-14940,e78e72f9

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Windows version 10.0.16299 workstation

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using comtypes version 1.1.3

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:34:42.558):

Loaded synthDriver eloquence

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.558):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Using liblouis version 3.3.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (15:34:42.565):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (15:34:42.586):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.592):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs._UIAHandlerEx.UIAHandlerEx.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.760):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.946):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 1196 (nvda_slave.exe) (15:34:49.489):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 91, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1245, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (15:35:24.890):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'PCM Plus'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x06F797B0>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: (0, 5, 120, 88)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 5576) at address 6d29e30>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'10.0.16299.15'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65912

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855744

windowThreadID: 5580

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x8f91df0 at 6e43e90>

IAccessibleChildID: 1

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65912, objectID=-4, childID=1

IAccessible accName: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED, STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (19922950)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None

 

 


Re: Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

Hi,

Please try:

  1. Open Outlook.
  2. Before opening ANY message, open Python Console (Control+NVDA+Z) and type the following as exactly as shown:

focus.appModule.dumpOnCrash()

Press Enter. Note down the path NVDA gives you. Once you got the path to the dump file, close Python Console (Escape key).

  1. When Outlook crashes, it should create the dump file in the path specified.
  2. Open File Explorer or other program you are using for browsing files, then navigate to the dump path and copy and paste the dump file as a private message to be sent to info@....

When you send the email to NV Access, be sure to tell them what happened, what you tried, and ask for a GitHub issue reference.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 2:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

I restarted nvda so it would be fresh. I then launched outlook – then pressed enter on the message. Outlook restarted – then I pressed nvda-f1 and copied the log to you. What else can I do to get you the relevant info?

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 3:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

Hi,

No log fragment on freezes or restarts here.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 2:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: 'Joseph Lee' <joseph.lee22590@...>
Subject: [nvda] Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

Hi Joseph and All,

 

For some reason on certain messages in outlook 2016 when I press enter on a message to read it restarts outlook.

This does not happen in JAWS but happens in NVDA. If I reboot the problem goes away for a while then comes back.

 

Please see my log for more info:

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

INFO - __main__ (15:34:40.739):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.114):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (15:34:41.114):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

NVDA version master-14940,e78e72f9

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Windows version 10.0.16299 workstation

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using comtypes version 1.1.3

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:34:42.558):

Loaded synthDriver eloquence

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.558):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Using liblouis version 3.3.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (15:34:42.565):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (15:34:42.586):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.592):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs._UIAHandlerEx.UIAHandlerEx.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.760):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.946):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 1196 (nvda_slave.exe) (15:34:49.489):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 91, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1245, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (15:35:24.890):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'PCM Plus'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x06F797B0>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: (0, 5, 120, 88)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 5576) at address 6d29e30>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'10.0.16299.15'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65912

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855744

windowThreadID: 5580

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x8f91df0 at 6e43e90>

IAccessibleChildID: 1

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65912, objectID=-4, childID=1

IAccessible accName: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED, STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (19922950)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None

 

 


Re: Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

Sam Bushman
 

I restarted nvda so it would be fresh. I then launched outlook – then pressed enter on the message. Outlook restarted – then I pressed nvda-f1 and copied the log to you. What else can I do to get you the relevant info?

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 3:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

Hi,

No log fragment on freezes or restarts here.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 2:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: 'Joseph Lee' <joseph.lee22590@...>
Subject: [nvda] Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

Hi Joseph and All,

 

For some reason on certain messages in outlook 2016 when I press enter on a message to read it restarts outlook.

This does not happen in JAWS but happens in NVDA. If I reboot the problem goes away for a while then comes back.

 

Please see my log for more info:

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

INFO - __main__ (15:34:40.739):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.114):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (15:34:41.114):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

NVDA version master-14940,e78e72f9

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Windows version 10.0.16299 workstation

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using comtypes version 1.1.3

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:34:42.558):

Loaded synthDriver eloquence

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.558):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Using liblouis version 3.3.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (15:34:42.565):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (15:34:42.586):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.592):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs._UIAHandlerEx.UIAHandlerEx.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.760):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.946):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 1196 (nvda_slave.exe) (15:34:49.489):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 91, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1245, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (15:35:24.890):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'PCM Plus'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x06F797B0>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: (0, 5, 120, 88)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 5576) at address 6d29e30>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'10.0.16299.15'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65912

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855744

windowThreadID: 5580

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x8f91df0 at 6e43e90>

IAccessibleChildID: 1

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65912, objectID=-4, childID=1

IAccessible accName: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED, STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (19922950)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None

 

 


Re: Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

Hi,

No log fragment on freezes or restarts here.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 2:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: 'Joseph Lee' <joseph.lee22590@...>
Subject: [nvda] Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

Hi Joseph and All,

 

For some reason on certain messages in outlook 2016 when I press enter on a message to read it restarts outlook.

This does not happen in JAWS but happens in NVDA. If I reboot the problem goes away for a while then comes back.

 

Please see my log for more info:

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

INFO - __main__ (15:34:40.739):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.114):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (15:34:41.114):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

NVDA version master-14940,e78e72f9

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Windows version 10.0.16299 workstation

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using comtypes version 1.1.3

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:34:42.558):

Loaded synthDriver eloquence

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.558):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Using liblouis version 3.3.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (15:34:42.565):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (15:34:42.586):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.592):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs._UIAHandlerEx.UIAHandlerEx.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.760):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.946):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 1196 (nvda_slave.exe) (15:34:49.489):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 91, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1245, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (15:35:24.890):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'PCM Plus'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x06F797B0>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: (0, 5, 120, 88)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 5576) at address 6d29e30>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'10.0.16299.15'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65912

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855744

windowThreadID: 5580

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x8f91df0 at 6e43e90>

IAccessibleChildID: 1

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65912, objectID=-4, childID=1

IAccessible accName: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED, STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (19922950)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None

 

 


Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

Sam Bushman
 

Hi Joseph and All,

 

For some reason on certain messages in outlook 2016 when I press enter on a message to read it restarts outlook.

This does not happen in JAWS but happens in NVDA. If I reboot the problem goes away for a while then comes back.

 

Please see my log for more info:

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

INFO - __main__ (15:34:40.739):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.114):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (15:34:41.114):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

NVDA version master-14940,e78e72f9

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Windows version 10.0.16299 workstation

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using comtypes version 1.1.3

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:34:42.558):

Loaded synthDriver eloquence

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.558):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Using liblouis version 3.3.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (15:34:42.565):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (15:34:42.586):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.592):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs._UIAHandlerEx.UIAHandlerEx.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.760):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.946):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 1196 (nvda_slave.exe) (15:34:49.489):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 91, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1245, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (15:35:24.890):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'PCM Plus'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x06F797B0>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: (0, 5, 120, 88)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 5576) at address 6d29e30>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'10.0.16299.15'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65912

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855744

windowThreadID: 5580

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x8f91df0 at 6e43e90>

IAccessibleChildID: 1

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65912, objectID=-4, childID=1

IAccessible accName: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED, STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (19922950)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None

 

 


Re: Copying the path to a file

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

I’ve not experienced this. I somehow remember it wasn’t always a thing, but I’m certainly glad to be able to paste to command prompt nowadays.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: March 13, 2018 1:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Copying the path to a file

 

The Windows 10 command line will not let me paste anything from the clipboard into the terminal. Is anybody else having this issue?

Otherwise, this command is completely useful, and exactly what I needed right now. Thanks for sending it along.

On March 13, 2018 12:54:44 PM "JM Casey" <crystallogic@...> wrote:

Yes. I find this particularly useful when putting stuff in command line. For a while there I was playing around with an Apple 2 E emulator that had to be run from command line and the paths needing to be entered were getting quite long.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: March 13, 2018 12:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Copying the path to a file

 

Hi All,

I came across a great Windows keyboard command on-line…

This will be useful for working with music files, like making a playlist, but sometimes I hate those browse boxes when it does not open into the folder where the file is, and you have to back out and find the folder where you are wanting to open or attach a file.

So when you have the folder open and you are on top of the file, do the following:

Shift + applications key

Then press the letter A.

This will put the entire path and file name into the clipboard, ready for pasting into that browse field.

This works with or without a screenreader.

 

Glenn

 

 

Glenn Ervin  Orientation Counselor II

Norfolk Nebraska

402 370 3436

Cell: 402 992 0325

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