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Re: Tips for Using Thunderbird v52.6 with NVDA 2018.1?

John Isige
 

Here you go.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html


Either save it somewhere and then go and open it, or open it right from your browser, tell it to use NVDA to open it if it asks for a program. Tell NVDA you want to install it, restart NVDA when it asks you if you want to restart, done.

On 3/15/2018 14:49, Kenny wrote:

Do you know the name of this add-on? I should be able to track it down hopefully.

Never installed an add-on for an email client before, hope it's not difficult to do.


On 3/15/2018 3:42 PM, John Isige wrote:
I just hit enter on a message if I want to read it, but if you go to the community addons site, tools/manage addons and then hit the "get more addons" button, there's an addon for Mozilla stuff that does what you want, I think. I've never tried it because I don't use the preview pane at all, but I'm pretty sure it has something that reads it, a keystroke or whatever.


I can't think of any tips or keystrokes, it's pretty accessible out of the box so whatever it has for defaults should be fine. But I us it all the time and have for years, so if you've got any specific questions, I might be able to help with those.


On 3/15/2018 14:32, Kenny wrote:

I've finally decided to give up my Eudora Pro v7.1 email client for Thunderbird. I'm pleasantly surprised how accessible it is using NVDA 2018.1.


I'm now wanting to become more efficient in reading/navigating messages.


In JAWS, I simply created a frame for the Eudora Pro view message window that was automatically read each time I highlighted a new message subject using the up and down arrow keys.


If I wanted to read the entire message body, I just hit [Enter] on the subject. Very quick and efficient.


The message preview pain for Thunderbird doesn't seem to be readable though using the NVDA review cursor.


Is there any way to configure Thunderbird v52.6 in a way where I could quickly read the message body preview and jump to the next message in the conversation quickly?


I'm very new to both NVDA and Thunderbird, so any configuration tips, keyboard shortcuts etc suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.




Re: How can I contribute to pronounciation corrections in eSpeak NG which is built in NVDA

Dejan Ristic
 

Excuse me for misspelling the word built in the subject line.

On 15/03/2018 19:53, Dejan Ristic wrote:
Hi once more,


I would like to contribute to the NVDA Project by correcting mispronounciations occurring in NVDA.


I do it in the NVDA speech dictionary.


For example: the word eschaton is mispronounced, although it is written correctly.


To fix the mispronounciation, I write it thus: escaton. When I enter it in either default or voice dictionary in the replacement fields, it sounds perfect. But, It is done only for me. I would gladly accept whatever I can do both for me and for you!


The main question is:


How can I contribute to the project so that any next release might contain pronounciation corrections?


Notes:


Firstly, I am not a programmer.


Secondly, I've made over a hundred pronounciation corrections which I would like to share with you.


Lastly, I would like to do it as far as British English is concerned.


Hopefully, your instructions as to my contributions will not be difficult for me to understand and apply.


Thankful to you,


Dejan





Re: has anyone used Mailbird

 

You don't have to pay for it. You can use up to 3 accounts on it for free. I have an interest, is all. There are two options where you would have to pay. I can't recall what those are.






On 3/15/2018 3:45 PM, John Isige wrote:
It looks like you have to pay for it. Why would you do that when Thunderbird's free and works just fine? I can't imagine it being required for a job since most employers seem obsessed with Microsoft's email stuff.


On 3/15/2018 14:41, Governor staten wrote:
Has anyone used this email program? It is very close to being accessible. I could do the setup, but, object navigation would be necessary for completing setup. Here is the link to the website.

https://www.getmailbird.com/









Re: Tips for Using Thunderbird v52.6 with NVDA 2018.1?

Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
 

Do you know the name of this add-on? I should be able to track it down hopefully.

Never installed an add-on for an email client before, hope it's not difficult to do.


On 3/15/2018 3:42 PM, John Isige wrote:
I just hit enter on a message if I want to read it, but if you go to the community addons site, tools/manage addons and then hit the "get more addons" button, there's an addon for Mozilla stuff that does what you want, I think. I've never tried it because I don't use the preview pane at all, but I'm pretty sure it has something that reads it, a keystroke or whatever.


I can't think of any tips or keystrokes, it's pretty accessible out of the box so whatever it has for defaults should be fine. But I us it all the time and have for years, so if you've got any specific questions, I might be able to help with those.


On 3/15/2018 14:32, Kenny wrote:

I've finally decided to give up my Eudora Pro v7.1 email client for Thunderbird. I'm pleasantly surprised how accessible it is using NVDA 2018.1.


I'm now wanting to become more efficient in reading/navigating messages.


In JAWS, I simply created a frame for the Eudora Pro view message window that was automatically read each time I highlighted a new message subject using the up and down arrow keys.


If I wanted to read the entire message body, I just hit [Enter] on the subject. Very quick and efficient.


The message preview pain for Thunderbird doesn't seem to be readable though using the NVDA review cursor.


Is there any way to configure Thunderbird v52.6 in a way where I could quickly read the message body preview and jump to the next message in the conversation quickly?


I'm very new to both NVDA and Thunderbird, so any configuration tips, keyboard shortcuts etc suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.








Re: has anyone used Mailbird

John Isige
 

It looks like you have to pay for it. Why would you do that when Thunderbird's free and works just fine? I can't imagine it being required for a job since most employers seem obsessed with Microsoft's email stuff.

On 3/15/2018 14:41, Governor staten wrote:
Has anyone used this email program? It is very close to being accessible. I could do the setup, but, object navigation would be necessary for completing setup. Here is the link to the website.

https://www.getmailbird.com/



Re: Tips for Using Thunderbird v52.6 with NVDA 2018.1?

John Isige
 

I just hit enter on a message if I want to read it, but if you go to the community addons site, tools/manage addons and then hit the "get more addons" button, there's an addon for Mozilla stuff that does what you want, I think. I've never tried it because I don't use the preview pane at all, but I'm pretty sure it has something that reads it, a keystroke or whatever.


I can't think of any tips or keystrokes, it's pretty accessible out of the box so whatever it has for defaults should be fine. But I us it all the time and have for years, so if you've got any specific questions, I might be able to help with those.

On 3/15/2018 14:32, Kenny wrote:

I've finally decided to give up my Eudora Pro v7.1 email client for Thunderbird. I'm pleasantly surprised how accessible it is using NVDA 2018.1.


I'm now wanting to become more efficient in reading/navigating messages.


In JAWS, I simply created a frame for the Eudora Pro view message window that was automatically read each time I highlighted a new message subject using the up and down arrow keys.


If I wanted to read the entire message body, I just hit [Enter] on the subject. Very quick and efficient.


The message preview pain for Thunderbird doesn't seem to be readable though using the NVDA review cursor.


Is there any way to configure Thunderbird v52.6 in a way where I could quickly read the message body preview and jump to the next message in the conversation quickly?


I'm very new to both NVDA and Thunderbird, so any configuration tips, keyboard shortcuts etc suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.


has anyone used Mailbird

 

Has anyone used this email program? It is very close to being accessible. I could do the setup, but, object navigation would be necessary for completing setup. Here is the link to the website.

https://www.getmailbird.com/


Re: IRC, instructions on how to use, and NVDA accessibility

Kwork
 

Thanks for this message. I'll give it a look. Hopefully it won't force a purchase on me. Weird you'd see that after so many years.

----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] IRC, instructions on how to use, and NVDA accessibility

Hi.

 

I used to use IRC a lot, and still do occasionally. As I’m a new-ish user of nVDA though, I haven’t yet tried it with this screen-reader. You can download the client MIRC for Windows. It works fairly well with JAWWS, and because I haven’t used any specific scripts for it or anything, I’m guessing it will work with NVDA as well. I have yet to try it, like I said; MIRC is finally for the first time demanding that I  register and buy the product (after eighteen + years of ignoring the message to register .. no kidding) I just haven’t gotten around to it yet.

 

The help system in MIRC is quite good. You can do all commands from the keyboard with the / prefix. Channels and private chat and file transfers all have their own  windows in the program, which you can access from the keyboard. In channels where there is a lot of traffic, you might have trouble keeping up as text scrolls on the screen really quickly. You can set things like audio alerts to announce events within the program. All in all, although I’m not the IRC user I once was (mostly because my favourite haunts largely went silent), it’s still my favourite method of internet chat, and of course you can use it for other things as well.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kwork
Sent: March 15, 2018 12:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] IRC, instructions on how to use, and NVDA accessibility

 

I'm thinking about entering the world of IRC. I've heard it's fairly accessible for blind users. How accessible is it with NVDA, and how would I go about learning how to use, set up, etc? Thanks for any help.


Tips for Using Thunderbird v52.6 with NVDA 2018.1?

Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
 

I've finally decided to give up my Eudora Pro v7.1 email client for Thunderbird. I'm pleasantly surprised how accessible it is using NVDA 2018.1.


I'm now wanting to become more efficient in reading/navigating messages.


In JAWS, I simply created a frame for the Eudora Pro view message window that was automatically read each time I highlighted a new message subject using the up and down arrow keys.


If I wanted to read the entire message body, I just hit [Enter] on the subject. Very quick and efficient.


The message preview pain for Thunderbird doesn't seem to be readable though using the NVDA review cursor.


Is there any way to configure Thunderbird v52.6 in a way where I could quickly read the message body preview and jump to the next message in the conversation quickly?


I'm very new to both NVDA and Thunderbird, so any configuration tips, keyboard shortcuts etc suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.


Re: Double characters while using Firefox 58 with NVDA 2018.1 in Google Docs

 

hi.
this is a bug in different versions of nvda and all firefox versions
that i tested until now!
someone reported this bug, but nvda developers closed the bug as duplicate!
i commented that its not duplicate and should not be closed, but did
not recieve any reply!
developers ment
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/1582
is duplicate of bug
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6424/
which is fixed in nvda 2017.3!
i realy dont understand why developers closed bug 1582 and why they
consider duplicate of bug 6424, while there are different and 1582, is
not fixed until now!

On 3/15/18, Governor staten <@Govsta> wrote:
The subject line is pretty descriptive of what is going on. We are using
Google Docs to edit a document, and we see double characters while
trying to edit things we type. I thought that this was conquered? We are
using NVDA 2018.1 with Firefox 58.




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Double characters while using Firefox 58 with NVDA 2018.1 in Google Docs

 

The subject line is pretty descriptive of what is going on. We are using Google Docs to edit a document, and we see double characters while trying to edit things we type. I thought that this was conquered? We are using NVDA 2018.1 with Firefox 58.


Re: Firefox 59 and NVDA

Walmir Schultz
 

As far as I know, IE is ok.

I'm using Firefox 52 ESR.



Em 15/03/2018 12:55, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:

This sounds like what I got on 57. I understood that the main issues had now been sorted unless you ar having some other issues. What about IE, does that still work?
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 2:06 PM
Subject: [nvda] Firefox 59 and NVDA


Hi,

I tried to use Firefox 59 but, when a page is loaded,, i hear only the title and NVDA saying "unknown".

Nothing works (arrows, numbers to navigate across headers, h, l, etc).

I'm using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 and Firefox 59.0, all 32 bits.

So, I had to reinstall Firefox 52 ESR.

Someone else can confirm this problem?






How can I contribute to pronounciation corrections in eSpeak NG which is bulit in NVDA

Dejan Ristic
 

Hi once more,


I would like to contribute to the NVDA Project by correcting mispronounciations occurring in NVDA.


I do it in the NVDA speech dictionary.


For example: the word eschaton is mispronounced, although it is written correctly.


To fix the mispronounciation, I write it thus: escaton. When I enter it in either default or voice dictionary in the replacement fields, it sounds perfect. But, It is done only for me. I would gladly accept whatever I can do both for me and for you!


The main question is:


How can I contribute to the project so that any next release might contain pronounciation corrections?


Notes:


Firstly, I am not a programmer.


Secondly, I've made over a hundred pronounciation corrections which I would like to share with you.


Lastly, I would like to do it as far as British English is concerned.


Hopefully, your instructions as to my contributions will not be difficult for me to understand and apply.


Thankful to you,


Dejan


Imposible to install last next

Ângelo Abrantes
 

windows7 pro

Here is the error:


"DEBUG - gui.MainFrame.evaluateUpdatePendingUpdateMenuItemCommand (18:31:48.013):
Error while removing  pending update menu item
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "gui\__init__.pyc", line 211, in evaluateUpdatePendingUpdateMenuItemCommand
  File "wx\core.pyc", line 82, in deprecated_func
  File "wx\core.pyc", line 2327, in _Menu_RemoveItem
wxAssertionError: C++ assertion "node" failed at ..\..\src\msw\menu.cpp(890) in wxMenu::DoRemove(): bug in wxMenu::Remove logic"


Cheers

Ângelo Abrantes


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using facebook as a blind(how to mension someone, how to tag someone...)

J.G
 

Hello,

may be this topic was already discussed but anyway... I was not regular fb user but now I must learn it as much as possible due to job reasons. I use Firefox with NVDA as my combination of web browser and screen reader.
can anyone help me with materials, from which I could learn or give me tips and treacks how to mension someone/fb page, how to tag someone, how to manage a fb page/ community effectively etc.
any suggestion will be appreciated.

kind regards, Jožef


Re: Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

Giles Turnbull
 

the program I have now installed is malware bytes. I've forgotten the name of what program malware bytes found and quarantined but it was something involving Monster.

Before trying malware bytes I downlaoded and used adwcleaner which did remove some identified nasties but not whatever was hijacking my Firefox.

Thanks all for the suggestions :)

Giles


Re: Firefox seems slower?

 

how about cyberfox?
is it accessible now?

On 3/15/18, Governor staten <@Govsta> wrote:
It is very easy to import bookmarks from Firefox into Waterfox. Install
it, and it gives you options from which to import from.



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On 3/15/2018 11:49 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Waterfox sounds interesting. Is there an easy way to get firefox
bookmarks imported?


Mary


On 3/14/2018 9:30 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi. Someone did bring up the value of migrating to the Waterfox web
browser sometime ago.  Well, I took Waterfox for a spin and I am
converted.  I'm not sure if Waterfox uses the mozilla engine, but it
seems to be faster and smoother and less cluttered than Firefox.  I
tried it with both Jaws and NVDA, and NVDA came up tops.  You can't
go far wrong if you at least give Waterfox a try.  Google for it.  If
you are willing to get off your comfort zone and work with something
different, you'll reap the nenifits immediately.  Anyway, there is
not much of a difference in Waterfox's and Firefox's interface, so
the learning curve isn't steep.  Cheers!


On 14/3/2018 8:12 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi folks.

Does anyone find that firefox is really slow?

I'm using nvda 2018.1.

As for firefox, I've tried all of the beta/ nightly channels, but
chrome, seems to run alot faster.

Is it just the computer, or just me.







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in order that
I may disobey God
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Re: Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

did you try the link that i provided too?

On 3/15/18, Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@...> wrote:
Hi Brian,

I'm using Firefox latest version 59. and no, there is no way to access any
settings when the malware was playing. It plays continuously on a loop and
you cannot close the page, cannot shut down Firefox and cannot access the
settings! The only way to close down Firefox while the malware is running is
to use Program Manager and find Firefox in the list of running applications
and choose End Task from there.

I have actually managed to remove this malware by totally uninstalling
Firefox from Add and Remove Programs in Control Pannel and then downloading
the Firefox installer again using Internet Explorer. I have also installed
Malaware free trial version and that did pick some unwanted malwares up and
remove them, so any traces have hopefully been cleaned :)
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by depriving an ant
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Re: Help: NVDA does not recognize objects anymore

 

you dont need to uninstall libreoffice, because it does not cause
problem for using other programs!
and has not confliction with your other installed programs!

On 3/15/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Yes, if this was windows 7 or 10, I have a feeling something got
deregistered, I also got a lock up on wordpad till I ran that tool in
windows 7 yesterday.

Bit of a bummer if Microsoft have broken file registration with an update
though.
Maybe its only on some machines and certain software.

That is the trouble with updates in that in xp you got to see what they
were, not you need to go and find out what they are if there are problems.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Such" <michel.such@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help: NVDA does not recognize objects anymore


Yes,


My Firefox is 59.0 and my thunderbird is 52.60.

This is my wife's computer, so I don't use it every day.

It worked fine some days ago, the only thing that happend recently was
the Windows cumulative update 2 days ago.

So I don't understand the problem, except if something particular
uccurred during the windows update.

Michel Such <mailto:michel.such@...>
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Le 15/03/2018 à 16:36, zahra a écrit :
you provided all necessary informations about your operating system
and screen reader except the version of your firefox!

On 3/15/18, Michel Such <michel.such@...> wrote:
Hi all,


I encounter a very strange problem on a machine where all used to work
fine.

It runs Windows 10 latest update and NVDA 2018.1.

In Mozilla apps, (thunderbird, Firefox) any object is announced as
"unknown".

More generally, in any app, conext menus are nomore spoken.

I triend to uninstall and reinstall NVDA, even deleting the NVDA
configuration directory, but it definitely does not work.

Has anyone encountered this and know how to fix it ?



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were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
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by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: copying a file path to the clipboard

Roger Stewart
 

Only thing is I have Copy Path and it no longer works in Win 10 and I couldn't find an updated version of it.

Roger









On 3/15/2018 9:44 AM, john s wrote:
I haven't been following this thread but another similar program is copy path.  The one Dan mentioned is good.

At 10:39 AM 3/15/2018, Dan Beaver, wrote:

Ok,  it took me a bit but I found a tool I have used for quite a while.


If you install this little tool it will make it very easy to copy the path of any file/folder to the clipboard.  It supports multiple formats of the path


https://pathcopycopy.github.io/


No endorsement, just experience.


Dan Beaver

                 John