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Re: Help: NVDA does not recognize objects anymore

Michel Such
 

Hi Gene,


Waw! Reregistering the system32 dlls fixed the problem.

Sory, at first time I did not read your mail  entirely.

But I am going to archive it ifor the case this would happen again.


Le 16/03/2018 à 08:37, Gene New Zealand a écrit :

Hi


Below where you got the snap shot in the email there was another part where you had to go into command prompt.


I was hoping the snapshot would do it.


Below that was some info from off my website about going into the command prompt and entering in some lines of code did you give that a whirl? I know it has fixed other peoples machines but may need a sighted person to enter it in and it need to be followed to a T. make sure you aare admin to do it as in the email.


hopefully that will fix it.



I am thinking also if you can set nvda to debug in the general settings and save your settings when you start up nvda again for the first time go into the areas where you are having problems NVDA will record what is happening then you will need to save the log.


This is done under the tools section in nvdait is called view log and you will need to go into it then save the log to your say desk top so is easy to find. We will see if it or it will be added to the ticket. they may need extra info but think it will be recorded.


Gene nz


Gene nz



On 3/16/2018 8:00 PM, Michel Such wrote:

Hi Gene,


Jus tried the com registration fixing toll, and it does not fix the proble.

I ran the NVDA installer in administrative mode to make sure it could update registry, restarted the machine after that, but no improvement.

Thanks anyway.


Le 15/03/2018 à 21:28, Gene New Zealand a écrit :

hi


the following might help. There is a next snap shot that is meant to fix it but not sure if it is totally finished for the tool.


the snap shot was created last night and can be found at https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

You can jump down by headings to where the next snap shots are and there is a download link.


But if it is the same bug i have seen you will not be able to use your browser to get it. may be a sighted friend can grab it for you?


I am just downloading it now and will also drop box it for you if you can not get it that way. It can be gotten from https://www.dropbox.com/s/a4nazm0q8te5ivg/nvda_snapshot_next-14952%2Cdd1cbe50.exe?dl=0

If you do the following in the email to get it you should get it down. Locate  the second link which is the drop box link with the letter k for link in the email. Then  you will need to use the applications key on the link then arrow down to save link i think it is then press the enter key. It will ask you to save it some where save it some where easy to find like the desk top.


If you can not use nvda you might have to use narrator to locate the link and do the same.


When the file is on the desk top or where ever you put it locate the next snapshot file then press the enter key on it. It should start up with the musical sound. there will be the documentation screen tab to the check box and agree to it. It should not have to be installed. Tab again then use the nvda key + letter N to get into the nvda preferences then arrow down to tools a sub menu will come off it then locate the comms fixing tool I forget what it is called. You will know it when you come across it. Press the enter key on it it will then come up with a message likeit had to do some thing to the registery i can not remember the wording tab to the yes button then press the enter key on it.


Sorry i can not help you after that. I am thinking it should fix the problems you might have to do a reboot but not sure as i have not used the tool which is actually a snap shot.


I will also put in the other way from off my website below.


It has to be followed to a T



Troubleshooting - NVDA says “unknown” or “pane” in all of your browsers, Mozilla Thunderbird email client and other places
If for some reason you have problems with NVDA saying “unknown” or “pane” check for the following symptoms:

In all of your browsers, or the Mozilla Thunderbird email client, no matter what you do, you still hear “unknown” or “pane”.

In the browser, email client and other menus you notice you cannot get into your menus, or you are unable to use the quick navigation keys

When you have been told the page is loaded and notice strange behaviour

Mozilla Thunderbird saying unknown while you try to navigate it

Your applications key does not work with it being spoken out and other strange behaviour in Windows

The running applications icons are not being spoken out
It might be a good idea to do the following:
Please note: If you are hearing “unknown” or “pane” (as discussed above) NVDA might seem like it is still working properly but it may not be completely in Windows and other programmes.
You could try the following solution which will allow you to re-register your dll files in case they are causing the problem.
Press the Windows key then type the following into the search box. Type in “command prompt”. Once you have located command prompt, in the search results, press the Applications key to bring up the context menu. Arrow down to select “run as administrator” and press the Enter key. This will take you to a command prompt window. This will not be spoken out. You may need sighted assistance for this.
Type in the following command
for %x in (c:\windows\system32\*.dll) do regsvr32 /s %x
This should re-register all components in the system32 folder.
When it is finished, you can close the command prompt window with the Alt + F4 key. You should notice now where NVDA was saying “unknown” as in some examples given, NVDA should now read the icons in the running applications area of Windows, speak the content of the webpage and menus, and also in Mozilla Thunderbird and other places in Windows including the Windows applications context menu.


hopefully one of the ways either the snap shot or this way will hopefully fix it for you.


By the way if the latest snapshot fixes it can you let us know please.


Gene nz


On 3/16/2018 3:59 AM, Michel Such wrote:

Hi all,


I encounter a very strange problem on a machine where all used to work fine.

It runs Windows 10 latest update and NVDA 2018.1.

In Mozilla apps, (thunderbird, Firefox) any object is announced as "unknown".

More generally, in any app, conext menus are nomore spoken.

I triend to uninstall and reinstall NVDA, even deleting the NVDA configuration directory, but it definitely does not work.

Has anyone encountered this and know how to fix it ?




--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Help: NVDA does not recognize objects anymore

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Below where you got the snap shot in the email there was another part where you had to go into command prompt.


I was hoping the snapshot would do it.


Below that was some info from off my website about going into the command prompt and entering in some lines of code did you give that a whirl? I know it has fixed other peoples machines but may need a sighted person to enter it in and it need to be followed to a T. make sure you aare admin to do it as in the email.


hopefully that will fix it.



I am thinking also if you can set nvda to debug in the general settings and save your settings when you start up nvda again for the first time go into the areas where you are having problems NVDA will record what is happening then you will need to save the log.


This is done under the tools section in nvdait is called view log and you will need to go into it then save the log to your say desk top so is easy to find. We will see if it or it will be added to the ticket. they may need extra info but think it will be recorded.


Gene nz


Gene nz



On 3/16/2018 8:00 PM, Michel Such wrote:

Hi Gene,


Jus tried the com registration fixing toll, and it does not fix the proble.

I ran the NVDA installer in administrative mode to make sure it could update registry, restarted the machine after that, but no improvement.

Thanks anyway.


Le 15/03/2018 à 21:28, Gene New Zealand a écrit :

hi


the following might help. There is a next snap shot that is meant to fix it but not sure if it is totally finished for the tool.


the snap shot was created last night and can be found at https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

You can jump down by headings to where the next snap shots are and there is a download link.


But if it is the same bug i have seen you will not be able to use your browser to get it. may be a sighted friend can grab it for you?


I am just downloading it now and will also drop box it for you if you can not get it that way. It can be gotten from https://www.dropbox.com/s/a4nazm0q8te5ivg/nvda_snapshot_next-14952%2Cdd1cbe50.exe?dl=0

If you do the following in the email to get it you should get it down. Locate  the second link which is the drop box link with the letter k for link in the email. Then  you will need to use the applications key on the link then arrow down to save link i think it is then press the enter key. It will ask you to save it some where save it some where easy to find like the desk top.


If you can not use nvda you might have to use narrator to locate the link and do the same.


When the file is on the desk top or where ever you put it locate the next snapshot file then press the enter key on it. It should start up with the musical sound. there will be the documentation screen tab to the check box and agree to it. It should not have to be installed. Tab again then use the nvda key + letter N to get into the nvda preferences then arrow down to tools a sub menu will come off it then locate the comms fixing tool I forget what it is called. You will know it when you come across it. Press the enter key on it it will then come up with a message likeit had to do some thing to the registery i can not remember the wording tab to the yes button then press the enter key on it.


Sorry i can not help you after that. I am thinking it should fix the problems you might have to do a reboot but not sure as i have not used the tool which is actually a snap shot.


I will also put in the other way from off my website below.


It has to be followed to a T



Troubleshooting - NVDA says “unknown” or “pane” in all of your browsers, Mozilla Thunderbird email client and other places
If for some reason you have problems with NVDA saying “unknown” or “pane” check for the following symptoms:

In all of your browsers, or the Mozilla Thunderbird email client, no matter what you do, you still hear “unknown” or “pane”.

In the browser, email client and other menus you notice you cannot get into your menus, or you are unable to use the quick navigation keys

When you have been told the page is loaded and notice strange behaviour

Mozilla Thunderbird saying unknown while you try to navigate it

Your applications key does not work with it being spoken out and other strange behaviour in Windows

The running applications icons are not being spoken out
It might be a good idea to do the following:
Please note: If you are hearing “unknown” or “pane” (as discussed above) NVDA might seem like it is still working properly but it may not be completely in Windows and other programmes.
You could try the following solution which will allow you to re-register your dll files in case they are causing the problem.
Press the Windows key then type the following into the search box. Type in “command prompt”. Once you have located command prompt, in the search results, press the Applications key to bring up the context menu. Arrow down to select “run as administrator” and press the Enter key. This will take you to a command prompt window. This will not be spoken out. You may need sighted assistance for this.
Type in the following command
for %x in (c:\windows\system32\*.dll) do regsvr32 /s %x
This should re-register all components in the system32 folder.
When it is finished, you can close the command prompt window with the Alt + F4 key. You should notice now where NVDA was saying “unknown” as in some examples given, NVDA should now read the icons in the running applications area of Windows, speak the content of the webpage and menus, and also in Mozilla Thunderbird and other places in Windows including the Windows applications context menu.


hopefully one of the ways either the snap shot or this way will hopefully fix it for you.


By the way if the latest snapshot fixes it can you let us know please.


Gene nz


On 3/16/2018 3:59 AM, Michel Such wrote:

Hi all,


I encounter a very strange problem on a machine where all used to work fine.

It runs Windows 10 latest update and NVDA 2018.1.

In Mozilla apps, (thunderbird, Firefox) any object is announced as "unknown".

More generally, in any app, conext menus are nomore spoken.

I triend to uninstall and reinstall NVDA, even deleting the NVDA configuration directory, but it definitely does not work.

Has anyone encountered this and know how to fix it ?




--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Other tool for solving the Verification Image

Arno Schuh
 

Even if available - and it isn't on every site - it is often impossible to recognize that is said. Lucky if you get some digits. But often it sounds like clips from an old film, patially with half words etc. Fortunately my ears are still pretty good, and I understand some (American) English, but the words I should recognize to enter it in the box are absolutely unknown. So I need several new audio captchas until it works. That's not a really good alternative. And for people in my country, that didn't understand English at all and/or are handycaped be bad ears, too ...

Yours sincerely

Arno

Am Freitag, 16. März 2018 08:23 schrieb Andy <wq6r@...>:

They generally offer an audio challenge as an alternative.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arno Schuh" <@menschomat>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image


Hi,

since some month there are more and more another kind of captchas
around, that can't be resolved by WebVisum. I also thought to ask a
volunteer at BeMyEyes but I have no idea how to reach the buttons.
These captchas i. e. ask for something like "Click on any pictures
that shows an yellow flower/a car/a man" etc. Sometimes for my
sighted brother it is even not easy to decide where to click on.
Did anybody came across such captchas and was able to solve it? Even
with help from BeMyEyes?

Yours sincerely

Arno

Am Mittwoch, 14. März 2018 23:20 schrieb Giles Turnbull
<giles.turnbull@...>:

The only Captcha tool I ever used was included with an early Twitter
client for the blind, called Qwitter. Sadly that vanished and there
was no equivalent when Qwitter evolved into The Qube. But what I do
use now is the iPhone and Android app Be My Eyes. It calls a human
volunteer who uses the rear camera on the phone to tell you whatever
you want ... such as the colour of a tshirt or what a Captcha image
says. I've used Be My Eyes twice today to assist when Windows was
doing an update and I didn't hear anything further (I realise that
I'd somehow turned the NVDA setting to start automatically when
logged in to Windows off). Obviously common sense applies - not
having any files open with login details to any accounts visible,
but you'd get an answer to your random letters test within the
minute! ... And BME is free to install and use :)





Re: Other tool for solving the Verification Image

Andy
 

They generally offer an audio challenge as an alternative.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arno Schuh" <@menschomat>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image


Hi,

since some month there are more and more another kind of captchas around, that can't be resolved by WebVisum. I also thought to ask a volunteer at BeMyEyes but I have no idea how to reach the buttons.
These captchas i. e. ask for something like "Click on any pictures that shows an yellow flower/a car/a man" etc. Sometimes for my sighted brother it is even not easy to decide where to click on.
Did anybody came across such captchas and was able to solve it? Even with help from BeMyEyes?

Yours sincerely

Arno

Am Mittwoch, 14. März 2018 23:20 schrieb Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@...>:

The only Captcha tool I ever used was included with an early Twitter
client for the blind, called Qwitter. Sadly that vanished and there
was no equivalent when Qwitter evolved into The Qube. But what I do
use now is the iPhone and Android app Be My Eyes. It calls a human
volunteer who uses the rear camera on the phone to tell you whatever
you want ... such as the colour of a tshirt or what a Captcha image
says. I've used Be My Eyes twice today to assist when Windows was
doing an update and I didn't hear anything further (I realise that
I'd somehow turned the NVDA setting to start automatically when
logged in to Windows off). Obviously common sense applies - not
having any files open with login details to any accounts visible, but
you'd get an answer to your random letters test within the minute!
... And BME is free to install and use :)



Re: Other tool for solving the Verification Image

Arno Schuh
 

Hi,

since some month there are more and more another kind of captchas around, that can't be resolved by WebVisum. I also thought to ask a volunteer at BeMyEyes but I have no idea how to reach the buttons.
These captchas i. e. ask for something like "Click on any pictures that shows an yellow flower/a car/a man" etc. Sometimes for my sighted brother it is even not easy to decide where to click on.
Did anybody came across such captchas and was able to solve it? Even with help from BeMyEyes?

Yours sincerely

Arno

Am Mittwoch, 14. März 2018 23:20 schrieb Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@...>:

The only Captcha tool I ever used was included with an early Twitter
client for the blind, called Qwitter. Sadly that vanished and there
was no equivalent when Qwitter evolved into The Qube. But what I do
use now is the iPhone and Android app Be My Eyes. It calls a human
volunteer who uses the rear camera on the phone to tell you whatever
you want ... such as the colour of a tshirt or what a Captcha image
says. I've used Be My Eyes twice today to assist when Windows was
doing an update and I didn't hear anything further (I realise that
I'd somehow turned the NVDA setting to start automatically when
logged in to Windows off). Obviously common sense applies - not
having any files open with login details to any accounts visible, but
you'd get an answer to your random letters test within the minute!
... And BME is free to install and use :)


Re: Help: NVDA does not recognize objects anymore

Michel Such
 

Hi Gene,


Jus tried the com registration fixing toll, and it does not fix the proble.

I ran the NVDA installer in administrative mode to make sure it could update registry, restarted the machine after that, but no improvement.

Thanks anyway.


Le 15/03/2018 à 21:28, Gene New Zealand a écrit :

hi


the following might help. There is a next snap shot that is meant to fix it but not sure if it is totally finished for the tool.


the snap shot was created last night and can be found at https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

You can jump down by headings to where the next snap shots are and there is a download link.


But if it is the same bug i have seen you will not be able to use your browser to get it. may be a sighted friend can grab it for you?


I am just downloading it now and will also drop box it for you if you can not get it that way. It can be gotten from https://www.dropbox.com/s/a4nazm0q8te5ivg/nvda_snapshot_next-14952%2Cdd1cbe50.exe?dl=0

If you do the following in the email to get it you should get it down. Locate  the second link which is the drop box link with the letter k for link in the email. Then  you will need to use the applications key on the link then arrow down to save link i think it is then press the enter key. It will ask you to save it some where save it some where easy to find like the desk top.


If you can not use nvda you might have to use narrator to locate the link and do the same.


When the file is on the desk top or where ever you put it locate the next snapshot file then press the enter key on it. It should start up with the musical sound. there will be the documentation screen tab to the check box and agree to it. It should not have to be installed. Tab again then use the nvda key + letter N to get into the nvda preferences then arrow down to tools a sub menu will come off it then locate the comms fixing tool I forget what it is called. You will know it when you come across it. Press the enter key on it it will then come up with a message likeit had to do some thing to the registery i can not remember the wording tab to the yes button then press the enter key on it.


Sorry i can not help you after that. I am thinking it should fix the problems you might have to do a reboot but not sure as i have not used the tool which is actually a snap shot.


I will also put in the other way from off my website below.


It has to be followed to a T



Troubleshooting - NVDA says “unknown” or “pane” in all of your browsers, Mozilla Thunderbird email client and other places
If for some reason you have problems with NVDA saying “unknown” or “pane” check for the following symptoms:

In all of your browsers, or the Mozilla Thunderbird email client, no matter what you do, you still hear “unknown” or “pane”.

In the browser, email client and other menus you notice you cannot get into your menus, or you are unable to use the quick navigation keys

When you have been told the page is loaded and notice strange behaviour

Mozilla Thunderbird saying unknown while you try to navigate it

Your applications key does not work with it being spoken out and other strange behaviour in Windows

The running applications icons are not being spoken out
It might be a good idea to do the following:
Please note: If you are hearing “unknown” or “pane” (as discussed above) NVDA might seem like it is still working properly but it may not be completely in Windows and other programmes.
You could try the following solution which will allow you to re-register your dll files in case they are causing the problem.
Press the Windows key then type the following into the search box. Type in “command prompt”. Once you have located command prompt, in the search results, press the Applications key to bring up the context menu. Arrow down to select “run as administrator” and press the Enter key. This will take you to a command prompt window. This will not be spoken out. You may need sighted assistance for this.
Type in the following command
for %x in (c:\windows\system32\*.dll) do regsvr32 /s %x
This should re-register all components in the system32 folder.
When it is finished, you can close the command prompt window with the Alt + F4 key. You should notice now where NVDA was saying “unknown” as in some examples given, NVDA should now read the icons in the running applications area of Windows, speak the content of the webpage and menus, and also in Mozilla Thunderbird and other places in Windows including the Windows applications context menu.


hopefully one of the ways either the snap shot or this way will hopefully fix it for you.


By the way if the latest snapshot fixes it can you let us know please.


Gene nz


On 3/16/2018 3:59 AM, Michel Such wrote:

Hi all,


I encounter a very strange problem on a machine where all used to work fine.

It runs Windows 10 latest update and NVDA 2018.1.

In Mozilla apps, (thunderbird, Firefox) any object is announced as "unknown".

More generally, in any app, conext menus are nomore spoken.

I triend to uninstall and reinstall NVDA, even deleting the NVDA configuration directory, but it definitely does not work.

Has anyone encountered this and know how to fix it ?




--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Edge suggestion for NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

Joseph (or others), I had a look and can't find an issue specifically for this on GitHub.  Given the nature of it, it's likely tied in with other things, but can anyone confirm that or else I'm happy to create an issue for it.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 2:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Yes, ever since we first encounter the system back in office on xp etc, we have had nothing but hangs and slow downs etc.
they have two apis that seemed to do most of what was needed, but no, they have to invent yet another wheel.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Edge suggestion for NVDA


Ah gees here we go with UIA again. I didn’t know this little suggestion would also depend so much on our frenemy UIA also. Wow. I wish MS would provide a tool or tools to devs of screen readers to work nice with UIA. I don’t know how this all works cause this crap is way over my head.

Lino Morales

From: Joseph Lee<mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Edge suggestion for NVDA

Hi,
It will depend on UIA exposing correct information.
Cheers,
Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Edge suggestion for NVDA

Hi. Don’t know if Joseph or someone else can do this, but could some create a Github issue for the following. I’d like to see if NVDA with MS Edge can recognize visited links by pressing V like IE 11 and Firefox. Every time I hit V on a sites where I know I’ve visited links NVDA just say not supported in this document. I love Edge, but this would help loads. Thanks.

Lino Morales










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Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation

Quentin Christensen
 

Yes I remember having "Acquire text" in the Word file menu back in the (pre Word 2007) day.  I think mine was part of Omnipage from memory, but either way that's definitely the kind of functionality I'd be interested in, and I expect most have a ribbon add-on these days.

Thanks everyone for your thoughts - no purchase yet, but lots of new information.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 3:28 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Back in the old days, well today actually as I'm still doing it on windows 7, I had Office pro xp/2002, and that had office tools one item of which was scan and ocr. This worked as follows. After you loaded the drivers for the scanner in question, the program asked you to select it as default, only done the once. it then scanned each page and you could bring down a menu at any time when the scan image was on screen and an option copy recognised text to a new word document was there and you operated it and there you were.  What it could be set to also do was put the unrecognised stuff in as graphics, which I found not very helpful so never allowed it.


You could then edit it as needed  It did preserve formatting in that it would attempt to use spaces to do the formatting but seldom got it completely correct.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 11:16 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation


As far as I know, the document that appeared in the program window was never properly accessible.  I don't have Word.  I used the program a little many years ago.  I would scan a page. Select all, control a, copy it to the clipboard, then paste into a Notepad file.  I wanted a text copy, not a copy with formatting.  It was just for my own reading. Then I would scan another page and repeat the procedure.  I don’t know what the program did in general.  The version I had would ask me if I wanted to save the text, as I recall.  I said no and scanned the next page, selected the text, copied it to the clipboard, etc.

I didn't have a program like Word to scan the text into.  It was a little cumbersome but it wasn't bad.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 5:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation


This is good news.
What do you mean by "scanner document"?



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: March 2, 2018 6:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation

Yes v14 is pritty much accessible.

There are menus, and a few buttons I have never got the scanner document to be accessible but everything else is.




On 3/03/2018 5:14 a.m., Mary Otten wrote:
It is great that so many have good luck with Abbyy version 12, but
since it is no longer sold, the question really is: is version 114
accessible? There has been discussion on 2 lists, and thus far, I've
seen 0 people saying they use version 14.


With all due respect, what good are reports of accessibility for a
version that is no longer available for purchase?


Mary


On 3/2/2018 8:01 AM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
I too am a big fan of ABBYY Fine Reader. i use version 12 and don't
have any accessibility concerns with it. I find their support email
very quick and friendly too. I was curious whether I could use the
same purchased licence on my laptop and tablet or if I'd need to
install another purchased copy onto the tablet. I received this reply:

According to the End-User License Agreement (EULA) you may install
ABBYY FineReader 12 Professional on two computers, but you may not
use the software on both in the same time.
So in order to use the software on your tablet computer, please close
ABBYY FineReader 12 on the laptop (please check in the system tray,
if all the applications, such as Screenshot Reader and Business Card
Reader are also closed).

Most times I use ABBYY to open a PDF doc into Word and then paste the
text from there into a Notepad file. Using the main ABBYY window
rather than the context menu option to convert to Word, I don't find
ABBYY 12 menus respond any slower than any other program with NVDA.
My only minor disappointment is that it seems very much tied to
Microsoft formats. Yes it'll convert PDFs into Word and Excel, but
why can't it convert the unformatted text into a .txt file?

I too purchased KNFB Reader when it was on cheap price offer, but I
don't find it easy to navigate the interface. Interestingly,
according to the Kurzweil website, K1000 uses "The ABBYY FineReader
Version 11 OCR engine provides the most accurate OCR available. For
the best possible scanning results,"

Giles

















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Re: Tips for Using Thunderbird v52.6 with NVDA 2018.1?

mk360
 

Try the "Clip Contents Designer" add-on.

El 15/03/2018 a las 23:38, John Isige escribió:
I don't think NVDA can do it, but you might consider a third party clipboard manager, I'm pretty sure they can. Warning! I haven't tried any of these so I have no idea if they're accessible, or even run under Windows 10, 64-bit or otherwise. I don't think they should break anything, but try them at your own risk.


https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-tips-manage-windows-clipboard-like-pro/


On 3/15/2018 20:03, Kenny wrote:


Thanks for the heads up. I did get the Systray add-on. Still trying to get use to using the Winkey+b shortcut.


I'm really looking for a way to copy and append info onto the clipboard.


JAWS offered the [Insert+Ctrl+c] function to do this. Does NVDA offer this functionality? I tend to do this alot when creating my own cheat sheet for learning new programs (Like with NVDA.)


On 3/15/2018 4:57 PM, John Isige wrote:
Sure. You'll want Windows App Essentials definitely I think. There are some things that simulate functions of JFW, if you're used to that, e.g. the systray or system tray, forget what it's called, gives you NVDA-f11 which brings up a list like JFW. You don't need it, you can get to the system tray with Winkey-b I think, but I used it when I was starting out because I was so used to it in JFW, and just kept on using it.


There's also a place markers addon and a ... I don't remember what it's called, but it puts things in a window you can copy out of. Looks like it's called "virtual Revision". Basically I'd say have a look around the community addons site. They all have descriptions so you can see if they make sense, or just try a couple at a time and see what you like. For example, I installed "day of the week" once because I actually needed that functionality, but I found I only needed it that one time, so I got rid of it.


There are a few addons that are useful for specific things that aren't on the community addons site for some reason, the two I know offhand have to do with games. But the community addons are a good place to start because they're vetted by the community so you know there's nothing bad in them. I think that happened once, there was some addon, I forget what it did, supposedly gave you access to a bunch of synthesizers illegally maybe, but it turned out to be some sort of virus or such.


On 3/15/2018 15:47, Kenny wrote:

This add-on is fantastic! Makes navigating Thunderbird much quicker.


I don't have any NVDA add-ons installed other then this one.


Are there any other ones you can recommend that brings such functionality to NVDA?


I'm using the latest build of Windows 10 (64 bit.) NVDA 2018.1 is the build I'm using.


Thanks again for recommending this add-on.


On 3/15/2018 4:17 PM, John Isige wrote:
Here you go.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html


Either save it somewhere and then go and open it, or open it right from your browser, tell it to use NVDA to open it if it asks for a program. Tell NVDA you want to install it, restart NVDA when it asks you if you want to restart, done.


On 3/15/2018 14:49, Kenny wrote:

Do you know the name of this add-on? I should be able to track it down hopefully.

Never installed an add-on for an email client before, hope it's not difficult to do.


On 3/15/2018 3:42 PM, John Isige wrote:
I just hit enter on a message if I want to read it, but if you go to the community addons site, tools/manage addons and then hit the "get more addons" button, there's an addon for Mozilla stuff that does what you want, I think. I've never tried it because I don't use the preview pane at all, but I'm pretty sure it has something that reads it, a keystroke or whatever.


I can't think of any tips or keystrokes, it's pretty accessible out of the box so whatever it has for defaults should be fine. But I us it all the time and have for years, so if you've got any specific questions, I might be able to help with those.


On 3/15/2018 14:32, Kenny wrote:

I've finally decided to give up my Eudora Pro v7.1 email client for Thunderbird. I'm pleasantly surprised how accessible it is using NVDA 2018.1.


I'm now wanting to become more efficient in reading/navigating messages.


In JAWS, I simply created a frame for the Eudora Pro view message window that was automatically read each time I highlighted a new message subject using the up and down arrow keys.


If I wanted to read the entire message body, I just hit [Enter] on the subject. Very quick and efficient.


The message preview pain for Thunderbird doesn't seem to be readable though using the NVDA review cursor.


Is there any way to configure Thunderbird v52.6 in a way where I could quickly read the message body preview and jump to the next message in the conversation quickly?


I'm very new to both NVDA and Thunderbird, so any configuration tips, keyboard shortcuts etc suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.









Re: bleeps when using explorer file list

Quentin Christensen
 

When moving through the list of files, I'd second Jonathan's guess at file previews.  I am not on my Windows 7 machine at the moment, but in the folder options in the view settings there should be an option to turn that off.

The other thing you can find on the tree view, is if you have things like network drives (and OneDrive in Windows 10), if the network is slow, that can cause issues loading.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:37 AM, Cohn, Jonathan <jcohn@...> wrote:
Could this be a preview of selected files? I don't see this behavior on my systems, though I have to say I generally don't keep any folders with large amounts of files on my Windows systems.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan 




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Re: Tips for Using Thunderbird v52.6 with NVDA 2018.1?

John Isige
 

I don't think NVDA can do it, but you might consider a third party clipboard manager, I'm pretty sure they can. Warning! I haven't tried any of these so I have no idea if they're accessible, or even run under Windows 10, 64-bit or otherwise. I don't think they should break anything, but try them at your own risk.


https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-tips-manage-windows-clipboard-like-pro/

On 3/15/2018 20:03, Kenny wrote:


Thanks for the heads up. I did get the Systray add-on. Still trying to get use to using the Winkey+b shortcut.


I'm really looking for a way to copy and append info onto the clipboard.


JAWS offered the [Insert+Ctrl+c] function to do this. Does NVDA offer this functionality? I tend to do this alot when creating my own cheat sheet for learning new programs (Like with NVDA.)


On 3/15/2018 4:57 PM, John Isige wrote:
Sure. You'll want Windows App Essentials definitely I think. There are some things that simulate functions of JFW, if you're used to that, e.g. the systray or system tray, forget what it's called, gives you NVDA-f11 which brings up a list like JFW. You don't need it, you can get to the system tray with Winkey-b I think, but I used it when I was starting out because I was so used to it in JFW, and just kept on using it.


There's also a place markers addon and a ... I don't remember what it's called, but it puts things in a window you can copy out of. Looks like it's called "virtual Revision". Basically I'd say have a look around the community addons site. They all have descriptions so you can see if they make sense, or just try a couple at a time and see what you like. For example, I installed "day of the week" once because I actually needed that functionality, but I found I only needed it that one time, so I got rid of it.


There are a few addons that are useful for specific things that aren't on the community addons site for some reason, the two I know offhand have to do with games. But the community addons are a good place to start because they're vetted by the community so you know there's nothing bad in them. I think that happened once, there was some addon, I forget what it did, supposedly gave you access to a bunch of synthesizers illegally maybe, but it turned out to be some sort of virus or such.


On 3/15/2018 15:47, Kenny wrote:

This add-on is fantastic! Makes navigating Thunderbird much quicker.


I don't have any NVDA add-ons installed other then this one.


Are there any other ones you can recommend that brings such functionality to NVDA?


I'm using the latest build of Windows 10 (64 bit.) NVDA 2018.1 is the build I'm using.


Thanks again for recommending this add-on.


On 3/15/2018 4:17 PM, John Isige wrote:
Here you go.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html


Either save it somewhere and then go and open it, or open it right from your browser, tell it to use NVDA to open it if it asks for a program. Tell NVDA you want to install it, restart NVDA when it asks you if you want to restart, done.


On 3/15/2018 14:49, Kenny wrote:

Do you know the name of this add-on? I should be able to track it down hopefully.

Never installed an add-on for an email client before, hope it's not difficult to do.


On 3/15/2018 3:42 PM, John Isige wrote:
I just hit enter on a message if I want to read it, but if you go to the community addons site, tools/manage addons and then hit the "get more addons" button, there's an addon for Mozilla stuff that does what you want, I think. I've never tried it because I don't use the preview pane at all, but I'm pretty sure it has something that reads it, a keystroke or whatever.


I can't think of any tips or keystrokes, it's pretty accessible out of the box so whatever it has for defaults should be fine. But I us it all the time and have for years, so if you've got any specific questions, I might be able to help with those.


On 3/15/2018 14:32, Kenny wrote:

I've finally decided to give up my Eudora Pro v7.1 email client for Thunderbird. I'm pleasantly surprised how accessible it is using NVDA 2018.1.


I'm now wanting to become more efficient in reading/navigating messages.


In JAWS, I simply created a frame for the Eudora Pro view message window that was automatically read each time I highlighted a new message subject using the up and down arrow keys.


If I wanted to read the entire message body, I just hit [Enter] on the subject. Very quick and efficient.


The message preview pain for Thunderbird doesn't seem to be readable though using the NVDA review cursor.


Is there any way to configure Thunderbird v52.6 in a way where I could quickly read the message body preview and jump to the next message in the conversation quickly?


I'm very new to both NVDA and Thunderbird, so any configuration tips, keyboard shortcuts etc suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.








Re: NVDA randumly crashing?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Matt, and others,

Just chiming in a bit late here since I've had a hectic week, but have any of those reporting issues had any resolution?  As Brian and others have said, at this point, a log would be the most useful way to investigate further.  See https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps for information on how to get to your log.  Fee free to include it in a reply (I don't think you can add attachments to messages on list), or send it to me offlist.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:07 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Its very hard without a log set to debug of the crashing session. IE when it reboots grab the old log not the current one, but before any crashes set logging level to debug as that shows most detail.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Turner" <meturner2214@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA randumly crashing?


Hi.

I mostly use e-speak.

As for the crashing, sometimes nvda will restart on its own, and other times I have to manually restart it.


On 3/11/2018 5:25 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I do not see this in Windows 7, but the other person has windows 8.1.
I'd expect all sorts of issues with 10, due to its numerous builds over its lifetime thus far.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA randumly crashing?


I am running NVDA on a Win 10 64 bit laptop and with the last two or three versions of NVDA including 2018-1 I get NVDA crashing randomly when I hit the windows key to open the start menu. I simply restart NVDA and everything seems fine again until the next random crash.


















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Must be frustrating

Debra Gardner
 

Well, I am at a loss as far as NVDA is concerned.  I have the latest update for both Windows 10 and NVDA  and it still doesn't see taskbar, start menu, context menus, and web pages.  I was afraid it was just me, but I installed it on a friend's computer that had just had Windows 10 re-installed and although it recognizes the taskbar and start menu, it does _not recognize web pages and just goes silent.  The frustrating part for the developers I would think is that this problem isn't something that is across the board on everyone's windows 10 computer.  Some people seem to be doing quite nicely from what I'm seeing on this list.  I'm just fortunate not to have to depend on NVDA, but my friend does  and I will have to find a work-around  for when she wants to go on the web.. 


Re: Tips for Using Thunderbird v52.6 with NVDA 2018.1?

Kenny
 

I actually came across your page before I started by doing some Googling. I use much of your suggestions on that page to set things up.


Made a huge difference.


On 3/15/2018 4:41 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Kenny


The following page from off my website might help you also.


There are certain views that are better or recommended to use. Any how have a sus of the page at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

You can jump down by headings to any of the sections.


Gene nz



On 3/16/2018 8:32 AM, Kenny wrote:

I've finally decided to give up my Eudora Pro v7.1 email client for Thunderbird. I'm pleasantly surprised how accessible it is using NVDA 2018.1.


I'm now wanting to become more efficient in reading/navigating messages.


In JAWS, I simply created a frame for the Eudora Pro view message window that was automatically read each time I highlighted a new message subject using the up and down arrow keys.


If I wanted to read the entire message body, I just hit [Enter] on the subject. Very quick and efficient.


The message preview pain for Thunderbird doesn't seem to be readable though using the NVDA review cursor.


Is there any way to configure Thunderbird v52.6 in a way where I could quickly read the message body preview and jump to the next message in the conversation quickly?


I'm very new to both NVDA and Thunderbird, so any configuration tips, keyboard shortcuts etc suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.


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Re: Tips for Using Thunderbird v52.6 with NVDA 2018.1?

Kenny
 

Thanks. I'm definitely going to be putting your tips to good use. I'm loving this Thunderbird client even more then I did Eudora Pro. Wish I made the switch sooner.

On 3/15/2018 5:49 PM, chris miles wrote:
On 15/03/2018 19:32, Kenny wrote:

I've finally decided to give up my Eudora Pro v7.1 email client for Thunderbird. I'm pleasantly surprised how accessible it is using NVDA 2018.1.


I'm now wanting to become more efficient in reading/navigating messages.


In JAWS, I simply created a frame for the Eudora Pro view message window that was automatically read each time I highlighted a new message subject using the up and down arrow keys.


If I wanted to read the entire message body, I just hit [Enter] on the subject. Very quick and efficient.


The message preview pain for Thunderbird doesn't seem to be readable though using the NVDA review cursor.


Is there any way to configure Thunderbird v52.6 in a way where I could quickly read the message body preview and jump to the next message in the conversation quickly?


I'm very new to both NVDA and Thunderbird, so any configuration tips, keyboard shortcuts etc suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.

Hi,


Here's a few short cuts:-


When you have the list of messages shown:-


Press F - moves to the next message

B - moves back one message

N - moves to next level


I have my TB set up to read by subject and have group by search checked.


This puts all of thread into one message; press right arrow to go into next level (says expanded), press  down arrow and press enter to open message. Or press N for next level and press enter on message.


To go back to list press Control and W.


I also use Lightning and first letter navigation in the tree use add on's.



Re: Tips for Using Thunderbird v52.6 with NVDA 2018.1?

Kenny
 

Provides additional keyboard shortcuts for reading various sections of Mozilla Thunderbird.


I'm primarily using the NVDA+Down arrow shortcut to read the message preview window. It does a lot more. Visiting the page list some of the various extra keyboard shortcuts it provides.


On 3/15/2018 5:39 PM, Casey wrote:

Hi what exactly does this add on do and what is the best way to set it up?




On 3/15/2018 3:47 PM, Kenny wrote:

This add-on is fantastic! Makes navigating Thunderbird much quicker.


I don't have any NVDA add-ons installed other then this one.


Are there any other ones you can recommend that brings such functionality to NVDA?


I'm using the latest build of Windows 10 (64 bit.) NVDA 2018.1 is the build I'm using.


Thanks again for recommending this add-on.


On 3/15/2018 4:17 PM, John Isige wrote:
Here you go.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html


Either save it somewhere and then go and open it, or open it right from your browser, tell it to use NVDA to open it if it asks for a program. Tell NVDA you want to install it, restart NVDA when it asks you if you want to restart, done.


On 3/15/2018 14:49, Kenny wrote:

Do you know the name of this add-on? I should be able to track it down hopefully.

Never installed an add-on for an email client before, hope it's not difficult to do.


On 3/15/2018 3:42 PM, John Isige wrote:
I just hit enter on a message if I want to read it, but if you go to the community addons site, tools/manage addons and then hit the "get more addons" button, there's an addon for Mozilla stuff that does what you want, I think. I've never tried it because I don't use the preview pane at all, but I'm pretty sure it has something that reads it, a keystroke or whatever.


I can't think of any tips or keystrokes, it's pretty accessible out of the box so whatever it has for defaults should be fine. But I us it all the time and have for years, so if you've got any specific questions, I might be able to help with those.


On 3/15/2018 14:32, Kenny wrote:

I've finally decided to give up my Eudora Pro v7.1 email client for Thunderbird. I'm pleasantly surprised how accessible it is using NVDA 2018.1.


I'm now wanting to become more efficient in reading/navigating messages.


In JAWS, I simply created a frame for the Eudora Pro view message window that was automatically read each time I highlighted a new message subject using the up and down arrow keys.


If I wanted to read the entire message body, I just hit [Enter] on the subject. Very quick and efficient.


The message preview pain for Thunderbird doesn't seem to be readable though using the NVDA review cursor.


Is there any way to configure Thunderbird v52.6 in a way where I could quickly read the message body preview and jump to the next message in the conversation quickly?


I'm very new to both NVDA and Thunderbird, so any configuration tips, keyboard shortcuts etc suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.














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Re: Tips for Using Thunderbird v52.6 with NVDA 2018.1?

Kenny
 


Thanks for the heads up. I did get the Systray add-on. Still trying to get use to using the Winkey+b shortcut.


I'm really looking for a way to copy and append info onto the clipboard.


JAWS offered the [Insert+Ctrl+c] function to do this. Does NVDA offer this functionality? I tend to do this alot when creating my own cheat sheet for learning new programs (Like with NVDA.)


On 3/15/2018 4:57 PM, John Isige wrote:
Sure. You'll want Windows App Essentials definitely I think. There are some things that simulate functions of JFW, if you're used to that, e.g. the systray or system tray, forget what it's called, gives you NVDA-f11 which brings up a list like JFW. You don't need it, you can get to the system tray with Winkey-b I think, but I used it when I was starting out because I was so used to it in JFW, and just kept on using it.


There's also a place markers addon and a ... I don't remember what it's called, but it puts things in a window you can copy out of. Looks like it's called "virtual Revision". Basically I'd say have a look around the community addons site. They all have descriptions so you can see if they make sense, or just try a couple at a time and see what you like. For example, I installed "day of the week" once because I actually needed that functionality, but I found I only needed it that one time, so I got rid of it.


There are a few addons that are useful for specific things that aren't on the community addons site for some reason, the two I know offhand have to do with games. But the community addons are a good place to start because they're vetted by the community so you know there's nothing bad in them. I think that happened once, there was some addon, I forget what it did, supposedly gave you access to a bunch of synthesizers illegally maybe, but it turned out to be some sort of virus or such.


On 3/15/2018 15:47, Kenny wrote:

This add-on is fantastic! Makes navigating Thunderbird much quicker.


I don't have any NVDA add-ons installed other then this one.


Are there any other ones you can recommend that brings such functionality to NVDA?


I'm using the latest build of Windows 10 (64 bit.) NVDA 2018.1 is the build I'm using.


Thanks again for recommending this add-on.


On 3/15/2018 4:17 PM, John Isige wrote:
Here you go.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html


Either save it somewhere and then go and open it, or open it right from your browser, tell it to use NVDA to open it if it asks for a program. Tell NVDA you want to install it, restart NVDA when it asks you if you want to restart, done.


On 3/15/2018 14:49, Kenny wrote:

Do you know the name of this add-on? I should be able to track it down hopefully.

Never installed an add-on for an email client before, hope it's not difficult to do.


On 3/15/2018 3:42 PM, John Isige wrote:
I just hit enter on a message if I want to read it, but if you go to the community addons site, tools/manage addons and then hit the "get more addons" button, there's an addon for Mozilla stuff that does what you want, I think. I've never tried it because I don't use the preview pane at all, but I'm pretty sure it has something that reads it, a keystroke or whatever.


I can't think of any tips or keystrokes, it's pretty accessible out of the box so whatever it has for defaults should be fine. But I us it all the time and have for years, so if you've got any specific questions, I might be able to help with those.


On 3/15/2018 14:32, Kenny wrote:

I've finally decided to give up my Eudora Pro v7.1 email client for Thunderbird. I'm pleasantly surprised how accessible it is using NVDA 2018.1.


I'm now wanting to become more efficient in reading/navigating messages.


In JAWS, I simply created a frame for the Eudora Pro view message window that was automatically read each time I highlighted a new message subject using the up and down arrow keys.


If I wanted to read the entire message body, I just hit [Enter] on the subject. Very quick and efficient.


The message preview pain for Thunderbird doesn't seem to be readable though using the NVDA review cursor.


Is there any way to configure Thunderbird v52.6 in a way where I could quickly read the message body preview and jump to the next message in the conversation quickly?


I'm very new to both NVDA and Thunderbird, so any configuration tips, keyboard shortcuts etc suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.




















Re: Tips for Using Thunderbird v52.6 with NVDA 2018.1?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Roger,


With the Windows 10 Weather App, can you get information in the history panel for daily information? When I use that App with the NVDA add on, I can get the monthly history but not the daily history.  Is this the way the app works or is that a fault in the NVDA add on?


Thanks for help.



On 3/15/2018 4:52 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
You should get the Win 10 apps add on for sure!  This will make life much better for Win 10 users.

Roger








On 3/15/2018 3:47 PM, Kenny wrote:

This add-on is fantastic! Makes navigating Thunderbird much quicker.


I don't have any NVDA add-ons installed other then this one.


Are there any other ones you can recommend that brings such functionality to NVDA?


I'm using the latest build of Windows 10 (64 bit.) NVDA 2018.1 is the build I'm using.


Thanks again for recommending this add-on.


On 3/15/2018 4:17 PM, John Isige wrote:
Here you go.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html


Either save it somewhere and then go and open it, or open it right from your browser, tell it to use NVDA to open it if it asks for a program. Tell NVDA you want to install it, restart NVDA when it asks you if you want to restart, done.


On 3/15/2018 14:49, Kenny wrote:

Do you know the name of this add-on? I should be able to track it down hopefully.

Never installed an add-on for an email client before, hope it's not difficult to do.


On 3/15/2018 3:42 PM, John Isige wrote:
I just hit enter on a message if I want to read it, but if you go to the community addons site, tools/manage addons and then hit the "get more addons" button, there's an addon for Mozilla stuff that does what you want, I think. I've never tried it because I don't use the preview pane at all, but I'm pretty sure it has something that reads it, a keystroke or whatever.


I can't think of any tips or keystrokes, it's pretty accessible out of the box so whatever it has for defaults should be fine. But I us it all the time and have for years, so if you've got any specific questions, I might be able to help with those.


On 3/15/2018 14:32, Kenny wrote:

I've finally decided to give up my Eudora Pro v7.1 email client for Thunderbird. I'm pleasantly surprised how accessible it is using NVDA 2018.1.


I'm now wanting to become more efficient in reading/navigating messages.


In JAWS, I simply created a frame for the Eudora Pro view message window that was automatically read each time I highlighted a new message subject using the up and down arrow keys.


If I wanted to read the entire message body, I just hit [Enter] on the subject. Very quick and efficient.


The message preview pain for Thunderbird doesn't seem to be readable though using the NVDA review cursor.


Is there any way to configure Thunderbird v52.6 in a way where I could quickly read the message body preview and jump to the next message in the conversation quickly?


I'm very new to both NVDA and Thunderbird, so any configuration tips, keyboard shortcuts etc suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.















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Re: Tips for Using Thunderbird v52.6 with NVDA 2018.1?

John Isige
 

Don't see why not. Give it a shot and let us know.

On 3/15/2018 16:41, Casey wrote:
hi will this add on work in windows seven as well?




On 3/15/2018 3:17 PM, John Isige wrote:
Here you go.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html


Either save it somewhere and then go and open it, or open it right from your browser, tell it to use NVDA to open it if it asks for a program. Tell NVDA you want to install it, restart NVDA when it asks you if you want to restart, done.


On 3/15/2018 14:49, Kenny wrote:

Do you know the name of this add-on? I should be able to track it down hopefully.

Never installed an add-on for an email client before, hope it's not difficult to do.


On 3/15/2018 3:42 PM, John Isige wrote:
I just hit enter on a message if I want to read it, but if you go to the community addons site, tools/manage addons and then hit the "get more addons" button, there's an addon for Mozilla stuff that does what you want, I think. I've never tried it because I don't use the preview pane at all, but I'm pretty sure it has something that reads it, a keystroke or whatever.


I can't think of any tips or keystrokes, it's pretty accessible out of the box so whatever it has for defaults should be fine. But I us it all the time and have for years, so if you've got any specific questions, I might be able to help with those.


On 3/15/2018 14:32, Kenny wrote:

I've finally decided to give up my Eudora Pro v7.1 email client for Thunderbird. I'm pleasantly surprised how accessible it is using NVDA 2018.1.


I'm now wanting to become more efficient in reading/navigating messages.


In JAWS, I simply created a frame for the Eudora Pro view message window that was automatically read each time I highlighted a new message subject using the up and down arrow keys.


If I wanted to read the entire message body, I just hit [Enter] on the subject. Very quick and efficient.


The message preview pain for Thunderbird doesn't seem to be readable though using the NVDA review cursor.


Is there any way to configure Thunderbird v52.6 in a way where I could quickly read the message body preview and jump to the next message in the conversation quickly?


I'm very new to both NVDA and Thunderbird, so any configuration tips, keyboard shortcuts etc suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.







contacts worked perfectly

Richard Kuzma
 

Thanks a bunch

She will be very happy

Rich