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NVDA with Wordpress

Rich De Steno <ironrock@...>
 

I have been trying to create a web page using NVDA with Wordpress, but I find it nearly impossible to do so.  Wordpress has an overwhelming amount of verbiage, menus, and sections,  and it is often even to determine how to invoke various choices.  In any event, before I give up on Wordpress, does anyone have any suggestions on how to make this more manageable?

--
Rich De Steno


Re: Firefox seems slower?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

You can do a google search for waterfox. I'm thinking of trying it myself.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox seems slower?

Hi what is the best site to get this waterfox from and does it act just like firefox?

Like do you use the same command to open the address bar for entering A web site address?




On 3/16/2018 4:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well it uses the old firefox interface, in june this year firefox will
shut down all its addons and other things so it can push everyone to
use the web extention restricted framework.

Waterfox aparently doesn't do this, it doesn't have all the tracking
and junk, of importance to users, it is not loaded with any mozilla
system addons just language packs.

Its based on mozilla code and will move to its own codebase.

Depending on its accessibility after june etc and the porting of
things depends what I do after that.




On 15/03/2018 5:30 p.m., Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi. Someone did bring up the value of migrating to the Waterfox web
browser sometime ago. Well, I took Waterfox for a spin and I am
converted. I'm not sure if Waterfox uses the mozilla engine, but it
seems to be faster and smoother and less cluttered than Firefox. I
tried it with both Jaws and NVDA, and NVDA came up tops. You can't
go far wrong if you at least give Waterfox a try. Google for it. If
you are willing to get off your comfort zone and work with something
different, you'll reap the nenifits immediately. Anyway, there is
not much of a difference in Waterfox's and Firefox's interface, so
the learning curve isn't steep. Cheers!


On 14/3/2018 8:12 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi folks.

Does anyone find that firefox is really slow?

I'm using nvda 2018.1.

As for firefox, I've tried all of the beta/ nightly channels, but
chrome, seems to run alot faster.

Is it just the computer, or just me.






.



--

Casey


Re: Firefox seems slower?

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi what is the best site to get this waterfox from and does it act just like firefox?

Like do you use the same command to open the address bar for entering A web site address?

On 3/16/2018 4:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well it uses the old firefox interface, in june this year firefox will shut down all its addons and other things so it can push everyone to use the web extention restricted framework.

Waterfox aparently doesn't do this, it doesn't have all the tracking and junk, of importance to users, it is not loaded with any mozilla system addons just language packs.

Its based on mozilla code and will move to its own codebase.

Depending on its accessibility after june etc and the porting of things depends what I do after that.




On 15/03/2018 5:30 p.m., Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi. Someone did bring up the value of migrating to the Waterfox web browser sometime ago.  Well, I took Waterfox for a spin and I am converted.  I'm not sure if Waterfox uses the mozilla engine, but it seems to be faster and smoother and less cluttered than Firefox.  I tried it with both Jaws and NVDA, and NVDA came up tops.  You can't go far wrong if you at least give Waterfox a try.  Google for it.  If you are willing to get off your comfort zone and work with something different, you'll reap the nenifits immediately.  Anyway, there is not much of a difference in Waterfox's and Firefox's interface, so the learning curve isn't steep.  Cheers!


On 14/3/2018 8:12 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi folks.

Does anyone find that firefox is really slow?

I'm using nvda 2018.1.

As for firefox, I've tried all of the beta/ nightly channels, but chrome, seems to run alot faster.

Is it just the computer, or just me.






.


--

Casey


Re: Remapping Keys

Gene
 

I'm not sure but it's a very bad idea.  The keys are used in screen review and object navigation.  If you change them, you will lose very importan functionality.  Have you learned to use screen review as designed and object navigation as designed?  It really isn't difficult to learn the NVDA commands and some of them are actually more convenient.  Read current line, just numpad 8 by itself, is more pleasant and convenient than numpad insert numpad 8.  It's usually better to use a screen-reader as designed no matter which one it is.  If you change things that are reserved for the screen-reader without knowing in detail how the screen-reader interface is designed, you run the risk of losing significant functionality.  NVDA isn't JAWS.  Try using it as NVDA.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 9:30 AM
Subject: [nvda] Remapping Keys

Hi,

I use both Jaws and NVDA.

Is there a way to remap the numberpad keys to work like Jaws keys?

I would like the keys 2, 4, 6, and 8 to read line up and left, right and line down respectively, and the home, page up, end, and page down for the 1, 3, 7, and 9.

I would also prefer the zero key be used for changing these keys like Jaws does too.

If anyone has already done this, is there a way to import them to NVDA, maybe as an add-on?

Thanks.

 

Glenn Ervin  Orientation Counselor II

Norfolk Nebraska

402 370 3436

Cell: 402 992 0325

Welcome | NCBVI

 


Remapping Keys

Ervin, Glenn
 

Hi,

I use both Jaws and NVDA.

Is there a way to remap the numberpad keys to work like Jaws keys?

I would like the keys 2, 4, 6, and 8 to read line up and left, right and line down respectively, and the home, page up, end, and page down for the 1, 3, 7, and 9.

I would also prefer the zero key be used for changing these keys like Jaws does too.

If anyone has already done this, is there a way to import them to NVDA, maybe as an add-on?

Thanks.

 

Glenn Ervin  Orientation Counselor II

Norfolk Nebraska

402 370 3436

Cell: 402 992 0325

Welcome | NCBVI

 


Re: Other tool for solving the Verification Image

Ervin, Glenn
 

For those of us who only speak English, we have trouble with them too.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mk360
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 7:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image

Oh, thats true. I'm not a native english speaker, I can read in english and can understand some things when someone speaks to me, but, understand an distorted voice speaking numbers or leters in english? for me is too dificult. the voice says "8" and I think "ok, he say 8 or h..." and it is a new challenge normally... I can use these, but with too many dificult, and I think is imposible for people that doesn't understand english.


Regards,

mk.


El 16-03-2018 a las 4:37, Arno Schuh escribió:
Even if available - and it isn't on every site - it is often
impossible to recognize that is said. Lucky if you get some digits.
But often it sounds like clips from an old film, patially with half
words etc. Fortunately my ears are still pretty good, and I understand
some (American) English, but the words I should recognize to enter it
in the box are absolutely unknown. So I need several new audio
captchas until it works. That's not a really good alternative. And for
people in my country, that didn't understand English at all and/or are
handycaped be bad ears, too ...

Yours sincerely

Arno

Am Freitag, 16. März 2018 08:23 schrieb Andy <wq6r@...>:

They generally offer an audio challenge as an alternative.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arno Schuh" <@menschomat>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image


Hi,

since some month there are more and more another kind of captchas
around, that can't be resolved by WebVisum. I also thought to ask a
volunteer at BeMyEyes but I have no idea how to reach the buttons.
These captchas i. e. ask for something like "Click on any pictures
that shows an yellow flower/a car/a man" etc. Sometimes for my
sighted brother it is even not easy to decide where to click on.
Did anybody came across such captchas and was able to solve it? Even
with help from BeMyEyes?

Yours sincerely

Arno

Am Mittwoch, 14. März 2018 23:20 schrieb Giles Turnbull
<giles.turnbull@...>:

The only Captcha tool I ever used was included with an early
Twitter client for the blind, called Qwitter. Sadly that vanished
and there was no equivalent when Qwitter evolved into The Qube. But
what I do use now is the iPhone and Android app Be My Eyes. It
calls a human volunteer who uses the rear camera on the phone to
tell you whatever you want ... such as the colour of a tshirt or
what a Captcha image says. I've used Be My Eyes twice today to
assist when Windows was doing an update and I didn't hear anything
further (I realise that I'd somehow turned the NVDA setting to
start automatically when logged in to Windows off). Obviously
common sense applies - not having any files open with login details
to any accounts visible, but you'd get an answer to your random
letters test within the minute! ... And BME is free to install and
use :)








Re: Tips for Using Thunderbird v52.6 with NVDA 2018.1?

mk360
 

You can select text with shift arrows in browse mode and copy with control NVDA c.


El 16-03-2018 a las 10:27, Kenny escribió:

Can this CCD add-on be configure to copy/append text to the clipboard from Browse mode? Using the review cursor is taking some getting use too. Highlighting information on web pages in browse mode is much easier for me.


On 3/15/2018 10:48 PM, mk360 wrote:
Try the "Clip Contents Designer" add-on.


El 15/03/2018 a las 23:38, John Isige escribió:
I don't think NVDA can do it, but you might consider a third party clipboard manager, I'm pretty sure they can. Warning! I haven't tried any of these so I have no idea if they're accessible, or even run under Windows 10, 64-bit or otherwise. I don't think they should break anything, but try them at your own risk.


https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-tips-manage-windows-clipboard-like-pro/


On 3/15/2018 20:03, Kenny wrote:


Thanks for the heads up. I did get the Systray add-on. Still trying to get use to using the Winkey+b shortcut.


I'm really looking for a way to copy and append info onto the clipboard.


JAWS offered the [Insert+Ctrl+c] function to do this. Does NVDA offer this functionality? I tend to do this alot when creating my own cheat sheet for learning new programs (Like with NVDA.)


On 3/15/2018 4:57 PM, John Isige wrote:
Sure. You'll want Windows App Essentials definitely I think. There are some things that simulate functions of JFW, if you're used to that, e.g. the systray or system tray, forget what it's called, gives you NVDA-f11 which brings up a list like JFW. You don't need it, you can get to the system tray with Winkey-b I think, but I used it when I was starting out because I was so used to it in JFW, and just kept on using it.


There's also a place markers addon and a ... I don't remember what it's called, but it puts things in a window you can copy out of. Looks like it's called "virtual Revision". Basically I'd say have a look around the community addons site. They all have descriptions so you can see if they make sense, or just try a couple at a time and see what you like. For example, I installed "day of the week" once because I actually needed that functionality, but I found I only needed it that one time, so I got rid of it.


There are a few addons that are useful for specific things that aren't on the community addons site for some reason, the two I know offhand have to do with games. But the community addons are a good place to start because they're vetted by the community so you know there's nothing bad in them. I think that happened once, there was some addon, I forget what it did, supposedly gave you access to a bunch of synthesizers illegally maybe, but it turned out to be some sort of virus or such.


On 3/15/2018 15:47, Kenny wrote:

This add-on is fantastic! Makes navigating Thunderbird much quicker.


I don't have any NVDA add-ons installed other then this one.


Are there any other ones you can recommend that brings such functionality to NVDA?


I'm using the latest build of Windows 10 (64 bit.) NVDA 2018.1 is the build I'm using.


Thanks again for recommending this add-on.


On 3/15/2018 4:17 PM, John Isige wrote:
Here you go.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html


Either save it somewhere and then go and open it, or open it right from your browser, tell it to use NVDA to open it if it asks for a program. Tell NVDA you want to install it, restart NVDA when it asks you if you want to restart, done.


On 3/15/2018 14:49, Kenny wrote:

Do you know the name of this add-on? I should be able to track it down hopefully.

Never installed an add-on for an email client before, hope it's not difficult to do.


On 3/15/2018 3:42 PM, John Isige wrote:
I just hit enter on a message if I want to read it, but if you go to the community addons site, tools/manage addons and then hit the "get more addons" button, there's an addon for Mozilla stuff that does what you want, I think. I've never tried it because I don't use the preview pane at all, but I'm pretty sure it has something that reads it, a keystroke or whatever.


I can't think of any tips or keystrokes, it's pretty accessible out of the box so whatever it has for defaults should be fine. But I us it all the time and have for years, so if you've got any specific questions, I might be able to help with those.


On 3/15/2018 14:32, Kenny wrote:

I've finally decided to give up my Eudora Pro v7.1 email client for Thunderbird. I'm pleasantly surprised how accessible it is using NVDA 2018.1.


I'm now wanting to become more efficient in reading/navigating messages.


In JAWS, I simply created a frame for the Eudora Pro view message window that was automatically read each time I highlighted a new message subject using the up and down arrow keys.


If I wanted to read the entire message body, I just hit [Enter] on the subject. Very quick and efficient.


The message preview pain for Thunderbird doesn't seem to be readable though using the NVDA review cursor.


Is there any way to configure Thunderbird v52.6 in a way where I could quickly read the message body preview and jump to the next message in the conversation quickly?


I'm very new to both NVDA and Thunderbird, so any configuration tips, keyboard shortcuts etc suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.































Re: Tips for Using Thunderbird v52.6 with NVDA 2018.1?

Kenny
 

Can this CCD add-on be configure to copy/append text to the clipboard from Browse mode? Using the review cursor is taking some getting use too. Highlighting information on web pages in browse mode is much easier for me.


On 3/15/2018 10:48 PM, mk360 wrote:
Try the "Clip Contents Designer" add-on.


El 15/03/2018 a las 23:38, John Isige escribió:
I don't think NVDA can do it, but you might consider a third party clipboard manager, I'm pretty sure they can. Warning! I haven't tried any of these so I have no idea if they're accessible, or even run under Windows 10, 64-bit or otherwise. I don't think they should break anything, but try them at your own risk.


https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-tips-manage-windows-clipboard-like-pro/


On 3/15/2018 20:03, Kenny wrote:


Thanks for the heads up. I did get the Systray add-on. Still trying to get use to using the Winkey+b shortcut.


I'm really looking for a way to copy and append info onto the clipboard.


JAWS offered the [Insert+Ctrl+c] function to do this. Does NVDA offer this functionality? I tend to do this alot when creating my own cheat sheet for learning new programs (Like with NVDA.)


On 3/15/2018 4:57 PM, John Isige wrote:
Sure. You'll want Windows App Essentials definitely I think. There are some things that simulate functions of JFW, if you're used to that, e.g. the systray or system tray, forget what it's called, gives you NVDA-f11 which brings up a list like JFW. You don't need it, you can get to the system tray with Winkey-b I think, but I used it when I was starting out because I was so used to it in JFW, and just kept on using it.


There's also a place markers addon and a ... I don't remember what it's called, but it puts things in a window you can copy out of. Looks like it's called "virtual Revision". Basically I'd say have a look around the community addons site. They all have descriptions so you can see if they make sense, or just try a couple at a time and see what you like. For example, I installed "day of the week" once because I actually needed that functionality, but I found I only needed it that one time, so I got rid of it.


There are a few addons that are useful for specific things that aren't on the community addons site for some reason, the two I know offhand have to do with games. But the community addons are a good place to start because they're vetted by the community so you know there's nothing bad in them. I think that happened once, there was some addon, I forget what it did, supposedly gave you access to a bunch of synthesizers illegally maybe, but it turned out to be some sort of virus or such.


On 3/15/2018 15:47, Kenny wrote:

This add-on is fantastic! Makes navigating Thunderbird much quicker.


I don't have any NVDA add-ons installed other then this one.


Are there any other ones you can recommend that brings such functionality to NVDA?


I'm using the latest build of Windows 10 (64 bit.) NVDA 2018.1 is the build I'm using.


Thanks again for recommending this add-on.


On 3/15/2018 4:17 PM, John Isige wrote:
Here you go.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html


Either save it somewhere and then go and open it, or open it right from your browser, tell it to use NVDA to open it if it asks for a program. Tell NVDA you want to install it, restart NVDA when it asks you if you want to restart, done.


On 3/15/2018 14:49, Kenny wrote:

Do you know the name of this add-on? I should be able to track it down hopefully.

Never installed an add-on for an email client before, hope it's not difficult to do.


On 3/15/2018 3:42 PM, John Isige wrote:
I just hit enter on a message if I want to read it, but if you go to the community addons site, tools/manage addons and then hit the "get more addons" button, there's an addon for Mozilla stuff that does what you want, I think. I've never tried it because I don't use the preview pane at all, but I'm pretty sure it has something that reads it, a keystroke or whatever.


I can't think of any tips or keystrokes, it's pretty accessible out of the box so whatever it has for defaults should be fine. But I us it all the time and have for years, so if you've got any specific questions, I might be able to help with those.


On 3/15/2018 14:32, Kenny wrote:

I've finally decided to give up my Eudora Pro v7.1 email client for Thunderbird. I'm pleasantly surprised how accessible it is using NVDA 2018.1.


I'm now wanting to become more efficient in reading/navigating messages.


In JAWS, I simply created a frame for the Eudora Pro view message window that was automatically read each time I highlighted a new message subject using the up and down arrow keys.


If I wanted to read the entire message body, I just hit [Enter] on the subject. Very quick and efficient.


The message preview pain for Thunderbird doesn't seem to be readable though using the NVDA review cursor.


Is there any way to configure Thunderbird v52.6 in a way where I could quickly read the message body preview and jump to the next message in the conversation quickly?


I'm very new to both NVDA and Thunderbird, so any configuration tips, keyboard shortcuts etc suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.






























Re: Other tool for solving the Verification Image

 

Did you try Rumola? It's pretty good.

On 3/16/18, mk360 <mk.seventhson@...> wrote:
Oh, thats true. I'm not a native english speaker, I can read in english
and can understand some things when someone speaks to me, but,
understand an distorted voice speaking numbers or leters in english? for
me is too dificult. the voice says "8" and I think "ok, he say 8 or
h..." and it is a new challenge normally... I can use these, but with
too many dificult, and I think is imposible for people that doesn't
understand english.


Regards,

mk.


El 16-03-2018 a las 4:37, Arno Schuh escribió:
Even if available - and it isn't on every site - it is often
impossible to recognize that is said. Lucky if you get some digits.
But often it sounds like clips from an old film, patially with half
words etc. Fortunately my ears are still pretty good, and I understand
some (American) English, but the words I should recognize to enter it
in the box are absolutely unknown. So I need several new audio
captchas until it works. That's not a really good alternative. And for
people in my country, that didn't understand English at all and/or are
handycaped be bad ears, too ...

Yours sincerely

Arno

Am Freitag, 16. März 2018 08:23 schrieb Andy <wq6r@...>:

They generally offer an audio challenge as an alternative.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arno Schuh" <@menschomat>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image


Hi,

since some month there are more and more another kind of captchas
around, that can't be resolved by WebVisum. I also thought to ask a
volunteer at BeMyEyes but I have no idea how to reach the buttons.
These captchas i. e. ask for something like "Click on any pictures
that shows an yellow flower/a car/a man" etc. Sometimes for my
sighted brother it is even not easy to decide where to click on.
Did anybody came across such captchas and was able to solve it? Even
with help from BeMyEyes?

Yours sincerely

Arno

Am Mittwoch, 14. März 2018 23:20 schrieb Giles Turnbull
<giles.turnbull@...>:

The only Captcha tool I ever used was included with an early Twitter
client for the blind, called Qwitter. Sadly that vanished and there
was no equivalent when Qwitter evolved into The Qube. But what I do
use now is the iPhone and Android app Be My Eyes. It calls a human
volunteer who uses the rear camera on the phone to tell you whatever
you want ... such as the colour of a tshirt or what a Captcha image
says. I've used Be My Eyes twice today to assist when Windows was
doing an update and I didn't hear anything further (I realise that
I'd somehow turned the NVDA setting to start automatically when
logged in to Windows off). Obviously common sense applies - not
having any files open with login details to any accounts visible,
but you'd get an answer to your random letters test within the
minute! ... And BME is free to install and use :)











Reviewing notes

Greg Rhodes
 

I have created a 35 page Word document that has notes I’ve taken while reading the NVDA books (Basic, Word, and Excel). It’s basically my quick reference cheat sheet for NVDA commands. I know and frequently use many of the commands. I want to mark up my document so that I can focus on learning the commands that I don’t know. What’s the best way to do this (relying on screen reader, not magnification). Bookmarks would be an option but I don’t really want to label each bookmark. Are there other ways so that I can quickly do something like a single key navigation through only the items I want to review?

 

Thanks


Re: Must be frustrating

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Debra,

How did you go with Gene's suggestion?

The only other thing I can think of is especially since you mention Windows 10 had just been installed, have you checked for updates on Windows and kept going until there are no more updates?  There have been points where various parts of Windows such as the start menu and context menu wouldn't read, although we endeavoured to get them working again as soon as possible.

Otherwise, feel free to send me a log and I'll see if I can get anything useful from there.  See https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps for info about the log.

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Debra Gardner <dgardner18@...> wrote:
Well, I am at a loss as far as NVDA is concerned.  I have the latest update for both Windows 10 and NVDA  and it still doesn't see taskbar, start menu, context menus, and web pages.  I was afraid it was just me, but I installed it on a friend's computer that had just had Windows 10 re-installed and although it recognizes the taskbar and start menu, it does _not recognize web pages and just goes silent.  The frustrating part for the developers I would think is that this problem isn't something that is across the board on everyone's windows 10 computer.  Some people seem to be doing quite nicely from what I'm seeing on this list.  I'm just fortunate not to have to depend on NVDA, but my friend does  and I will have to find a work-around  for when she wants to go on the web.. 




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Training and Support Manager

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Re: Other tool for solving the Verification Image

mk360
 

Oh, thats true. I'm not a native english speaker, I can read in english and can understand some things when someone speaks to me, but, understand an distorted voice speaking numbers or leters in english? for me is too dificult. the voice says "8" and I think "ok, he say 8 or h..." and it is a new challenge normally... I can use these, but with too many dificult, and I think is imposible for people that doesn't understand english.


Regards,

mk.

El 16-03-2018 a las 4:37, Arno Schuh escribió:
Even if available - and it isn't on every site - it is often impossible to recognize that is said. Lucky if you get some digits. But often it sounds like clips from an old film, patially with half words etc. Fortunately my ears are still pretty good, and I understand some (American) English, but the words I should recognize to enter it in the box are absolutely unknown. So I need several new audio captchas until it works. That's not a really good alternative. And for people in my country, that didn't understand English at all and/or are handycaped be bad ears, too ...

Yours sincerely

Arno

Am Freitag, 16. März 2018 08:23 schrieb Andy <wq6r@...>:

They generally offer an audio challenge as an alternative.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arno Schuh" <@menschomat>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image


Hi,

since some month there are more and more another kind of captchas
around, that can't be resolved by WebVisum. I also thought to ask a
volunteer at BeMyEyes but I have no idea how to reach the buttons.
These captchas i. e. ask for something like "Click on any pictures
that shows an yellow flower/a car/a man" etc. Sometimes for my
sighted brother it is even not easy to decide where to click on.
Did anybody came across such captchas and was able to solve it? Even
with help from BeMyEyes?

Yours sincerely

Arno

Am Mittwoch, 14. März 2018 23:20 schrieb Giles Turnbull
<giles.turnbull@...>:

The only Captcha tool I ever used was included with an early Twitter
client for the blind, called Qwitter. Sadly that vanished and there
was no equivalent when Qwitter evolved into The Qube. But what I do
use now is the iPhone and Android app Be My Eyes. It calls a human
volunteer who uses the rear camera on the phone to tell you whatever
you want ... such as the colour of a tshirt or what a Captcha image
says. I've used Be My Eyes twice today to assist when Windows was
doing an update and I didn't hear anything further (I realise that
I'd somehow turned the NVDA setting to start automatically when
logged in to Windows off). Obviously common sense applies - not
having any files open with login details to any accounts visible,
but you'd get an answer to your random letters test within the
minute! ... And BME is free to install and use :)







Re: Announcement regarding Bloomberg software

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Does that mean we need to install that software on our computer? or it is a web based platform?


Adriani Botez 於 16/3/2018 5:00 寫道:

Dear all,

some of you might already have heared about Bloomberg Terminal and Bloomberg
Professional. This is the software environment on which every big finance
company including stock exchanges are relying when it comes to financial
analysis (i.e. last news, share prices, commodity prices, charts, trends and
what not).
It is the most common software in banks, financial institutions and hedge
fonds.

Blind and visually impaired people did not have access to this software and
so, many people could not apply for a job in this area because they did not
have the possibility to work productively with the terminal.

Now, I am in conversations with our Bloomberg customer relationship manager
and they are very interested to make Bloomberg accessible for everyone.

I will probably get a test account for a limited time and tey just confirmed
that this account can be used worldwide. The purpose is to start a worldwide
testing phase where blind and visually impaired users provide their feedback
about Bloomberg software environment. If possible in connection with
Bloomberg keyboard.

We need as many users and developers as possible who are interested in
testing this software. It is important that the tester is interested in
financial topics.

Your answers are appreciated, in case you are interested to test the
Bloomberg Professional.


Best regards
Adriani




Re: Imposible to install last next

Ângelo Abrantes
 

Hi,
Many thanks for your suggestion. But I think that, at the very least, it deserved a response from those who are making modifications that provoke these situations!

Ângelo Abrantes
Às 09:28 de 16-03-2018, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:
Yes I posted the fix for this a day or so back. Download it which you have. open the run  box type %temp% and enter. look for the update in there, and run and install it. Then according to  the devs, this should work next time. The problem is that the way the new wx code worked stopped it showing the dialogue on the original version, so until this bug was fixed you had to update manually.
Brian

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windows7 pro

Here is the error:


"DEBUG - gui.MainFrame.evaluateUpdatePendingUpdateMenuItemCommand (18:31:48.013):
Error while removing pending update menu item
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "gui\__init__.pyc", line 211, in evaluateUpdatePendingUpdateMenuItemCommand
 File "wx\core.pyc", line 82, in deprecated_func
 File "wx\core.pyc", line 2327, in _Menu_RemoveItem
wxAssertionError: C++ assertion "node" failed at ..\..\src\msw\menu.cpp(890) in wxMenu::DoRemove(): bug in wxMenu::Remove logic"


Cheers

Ângelo Abrantes


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Re: Announcement regarding Bloomberg software

Tea Turković
 

Hi Adriani,


that+s a huge, important announcement for all of us! I posted this announcement on Twitter, and I hope that you will get a lot of interested potential users and developers for colaboration and work on accessibility together with Bloomberg's development team.

Many thanks on this inniciative!

Kind regards,

Tea Turkovic


15.3.2018. u 22:00, Adriani Botez je napisao/la:

Dear all,

some of you might already have heared about Bloomberg Terminal and Bloomberg
Professional. This is the software environment on which every big finance
company including stock exchanges are relying when it comes to financial
analysis (i.e. last news, share prices, commodity prices, charts, trends and
what not).
It is the most common software in banks, financial institutions and hedge
fonds.

Blind and visually impaired people did not have access to this software and
so, many people could not apply for a job in this area because they did not
have the possibility to work productively with the terminal.

Now, I am in conversations with our Bloomberg customer relationship manager
and they are very interested to make Bloomberg accessible for everyone.

I will probably get a test account for a limited time and tey just confirmed
that this account can be used worldwide. The purpose is to start a worldwide
testing phase where blind and visually impaired users provide their feedback
about Bloomberg software environment. If possible in connection with
Bloomberg keyboard.

We need as many users and developers as possible who are interested in
testing this software. It is important that the tester is interested in
financial topics.

Your answers are appreciated, in case you are interested to test the
Bloomberg Professional.


Best regards
Adriani




Re: Double characters while using Firefox 58 with NVDA 2018.1 in Google Docs

 

the characters speak double for example: i want to navigate in the
word mercy letter by letter.
in the first, i press right arrow nvda says m, in the second press of
right arrow, nvda again says m instead of e!
even i want to navigate line by line, nvda repeates previous line when
i press down arrow!
see the link which i provided.
i did not see google docs, but i have this problem in any edit boxes of firefox.
so, i write my text in notepad plus plus, copy and peist in the edit
boxes of firefox.

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I gave up on google docs. they keep on changing the thing. When you say
double do you mean in reality, or just spoken twice?
Brian

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Google Docs


The subject line is pretty descriptive of what is going on. We are using
Google Docs to edit a document, and we see double characters while trying

to edit things we type. I thought that this was conquered? We are using
NVDA 2018.1 with Firefox 58.







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Re: Firefox seems slower?

 

but i prefer to use 32bit version of windows and 32bit versions of
software forever.
i did not see any advantage in 64bit for myself personally.

On 3/16/18, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
Which is fine for most newer systems you can't buy 32 bit systems at all
and everything will go 64 bit eventually 32 bit emulation is still
supported.




On 15/03/2018 6:09 p.m., zahra wrote:
yes, waterfox is based on firefox, but only supports 64 bit windows!

On 3/15/18, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:
Hi.  Someone did bring up the value of migrating to the Waterfox web
browser sometime ago.  Well, I took Waterfox for a spin and I am
converted.  I'm not sure if Waterfox uses the mozilla engine, but it
seems to be faster and smoother and less cluttered than Firefox.  I
tried it with both Jaws and NVDA, and NVDA came up tops.  You can't go
far wrong if you at least give Waterfox a try.  Google for it.  If you
are willing to get off your comfort zone and work with something
different, you'll reap the nenifits immediately.  Anyway, there is not
much of a difference in Waterfox's and Firefox's interface, so the
learning curve isn't steep.  Cheers!


On 14/3/2018 8:12 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi folks.

Does anyone find that firefox is really slow?

I'm using nvda 2018.1.

As for firefox, I've tried all of the beta/ nightly channels, but
chrome, seems to run alot faster.

Is it just the computer, or just me.








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I may disobey God
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from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Edge suggestion for NVDA

 

Just bring the msaa crappy though it is back.

It worked, uia is still just to unstable look at all the features skype 7 has that win10 app is missing.

I am going to have to use universal app for win10 if skype will not install in classic mode in the next update, baaa!

On a serious note, it may be easier to simply unsubscribe from the nvda skype group and not use skype at all, the only time I use it is to contact friends and family on trips, which sadly will not be possible, I will have to conduct business through costly phone calls and email from now on.

But if skype can't be trusted, maybe I will simply not use any internet phone software because its all crappy and totally crap thanks to microsoft I no longer trust phone software at all.

On 16/03/2018 3:56 a.m., Lino Morales wrote:
Ah gees here we go with UIA again. I didn’t know this little suggestion would also depend so much on our frenemy UIA also. Wow. I wish MS would provide a tool or tools to devs of screen readers to work nice with UIA. I don’t know how this all works cause this crap is way over my head.

Lino Morales

From: Joseph Lee<mailto:@joslee>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Edge suggestion for NVDA

Hi,
It will depend on UIA exposing correct information.
Cheers,
Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Edge suggestion for NVDA

Hi. Don’t know if Joseph or someone else can do this, but could some create a Github issue for the following. I’d like to see if NVDA with MS Edge can recognize visited links by pressing V like IE 11 and Firefox. Every time I hit V on a sites where I know I’ve visited links NVDA just say not supported in this document. I love Edge, but this would help loads. Thanks.

Lino Morales




Re: Firefox seems slower?

 

Which is fine for most newer systems you can't buy 32 bit systems at all and everything will go 64 bit eventually 32 bit emulation is still supported.

On 15/03/2018 6:09 p.m., zahra wrote:
yes, waterfox is based on firefox, but only supports 64 bit windows!

On 3/15/18, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:
Hi.  Someone did bring up the value of migrating to the Waterfox web
browser sometime ago.  Well, I took Waterfox for a spin and I am
converted.  I'm not sure if Waterfox uses the mozilla engine, but it
seems to be faster and smoother and less cluttered than Firefox.  I
tried it with both Jaws and NVDA, and NVDA came up tops.  You can't go
far wrong if you at least give Waterfox a try.  Google for it.  If you
are willing to get off your comfort zone and work with something
different, you'll reap the nenifits immediately.  Anyway, there is not
much of a difference in Waterfox's and Firefox's interface, so the
learning curve isn't steep.  Cheers!


On 14/3/2018 8:12 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi folks.

Does anyone find that firefox is really slow?

I'm using nvda 2018.1.

As for firefox, I've tried all of the beta/ nightly channels, but
chrome, seems to run alot faster.

Is it just the computer, or just me.






Re: Firefox seems slower?

 

Well it uses the old firefox interface, in june this year firefox will shut down all its addons and other things so it can push everyone to use the web extention restricted framework.

Waterfox aparently doesn't do this, it doesn't have all the tracking and junk, of importance to users, it is not loaded with any mozilla system addons just language packs.

Its based on mozilla code and will move to its own codebase.

Depending on its accessibility after june etc and the porting of things depends what I do after that.

On 15/03/2018 5:30 p.m., Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi. Someone did bring up the value of migrating to the Waterfox web browser sometime ago.  Well, I took Waterfox for a spin and I am converted.  I'm not sure if Waterfox uses the mozilla engine, but it seems to be faster and smoother and less cluttered than Firefox.  I tried it with both Jaws and NVDA, and NVDA came up tops.  You can't go far wrong if you at least give Waterfox a try.  Google for it.  If you are willing to get off your comfort zone and work with something different, you'll reap the nenifits immediately.  Anyway, there is not much of a difference in Waterfox's and Firefox's interface, so the learning curve isn't steep.  Cheers!


On 14/3/2018 8:12 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi folks.

Does anyone find that firefox is really slow?

I'm using nvda 2018.1.

As for firefox, I've tried all of the beta/ nightly channels, but chrome, seems to run alot faster.

Is it just the computer, or just me.





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