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Re: Choosing a Laptop

 

Hi,

Depends on manufacturer and model. I’ve seen laptops go under 500 dollars (as low as 250).

Lanie’s requirements sort of reflect what I did last year when ordering a Lenovo ThinkPad. I got a Core I5 with 8 GB of RAM and 512 GB SSD, intending for software development work and for testing various apps. I also asked for a fingerprint reader and touchscreen for various reasons (in particular, I needed a touchscreen device in order to continue my work with one particular add-on). All this (a custom-built Lenovo ThinkPad T470) cost 1400 dollars. Lanie may have gotten more powerful components and a newer processor than mine, which may explain the higher cost.

As for development work: I hope you can tell us stories of adventures with Windows Subsystem for Linux. Soon, you’ll be blown away by a feature that’ll make some software development scenarios easier (I’ll give a brief demo of that one at an upcoming Accessible World Tek Talk presentation).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 7:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

aren't the poorest, underpowered and cheap laptops around 500 dollars in the states? I definately wouldn't get anything below an i5, and would try to get the latest eighth gen processor, which has 4 cores instead of 2.

 

On 3/18/2018 1:11 AM, Gene wrote:

What does using it hard mean?  It's not necessarily how many hours a day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.  You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops.  I don't follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year, I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company, that they all are. 

 

I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the specifications yet,  but what is everything and what is using it hard? 

 

Gene

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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> http://www.avg.com
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Choosing a Laptop

enes sarıbaş
 

aren't the poorest, underpowered and cheap laptops around 500 dollars in the states? I definately wouldn't get anything below an i5, and would try to get the latest eighth gen processor, which has 4 cores instead of 2.


On 3/18/2018 1:11 AM, Gene wrote:
What does using it hard mean?  It's not necessarily how many hours a day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.  You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops.  I don't follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year, I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company, that they all are. 
 
I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the specifications yet,  but what is everything and what is using it hard? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> http://www.avg.com
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Re: powerpoint keeps matching keyboard and proofing language

enes sarıbaş
 

this is for powerpoint, not for nvda.

On 3/17/2018 8:32 AM, zahra wrote:
uncheck Automatic language switching (when supported) in voice setting of nvda.
you dont need to disable turkish language as you deed!

On 3/17/18, enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@gmail.com> wrote:
hi,

I use the turkish keyboard layout, even when typing english. I have an
annoying problem. Whenever I type a single character in powerpoint, or
in word, the proofing language switches to turkish. I disabled and
removed turkish from the languages, and set english as defaults. I also
disabled detect language automatically in word. Is there anyhting I can
do, other than switching keyboard layouts?





Re: Updating Windows and Code Factory voices

John Isige
 

Yes. Major updates, like Creators and possibly the bigger ones every
three months or whatever they are, will break your license. So if you
think you might have a major update, you probably want to unlicense, let
it update, and reactivate. I can't guarantee this, but when I emailed
them about it when it happened to me, they reset my activations.

On 3/17/2018 17:48, ely.r@comcast.net wrote:
Updating Windows and Code Factory voices

Is it possible that my recent Windows update stole an activation of my
Code Factory add-on? It looks like they are running, but when selected
from thesynthesizer choice in the Preference menu, I get a message
that I need to provide myauthorization code.

Thanks for any suggestion.

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038


My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8

 

Hi,
I recently updated Skype to the new Skype 8 via Ninight. I did just gave NVDA a try, and I must say, I'm quite satisfied with how NVDA performs (haven't try going into the settings yet though). The fact that NVDA treats Skype as a web page means I can just press the e key to jump to the message edit box, without having to tab around, which I find quite annoying in Skype 7. Also, once I exit the focus mode on the message edit field, I'm able to use the up/down arrow keys to review the messages in the chat, which is once again more convenient than tabbing around.
However I do miss the ability to set custom hotkeys, notifications when someone signs in or sends a message, and the list of pending contact requests though.
At first, I thought NVDA would work horribly with the new Skype, judging by a thread about this on the list earlier but my experience seems to prove otherwise.
But if I'm on Windows 10, I'll still use the Skype UWP as it's preinstalled.


Re: Choosing a Laptop

Gene
 

I don't know enough to comment on those uses.  It may be that you need a powerful computer.  Whether you need to spend that much money, I'll let others discuss. 
 
500 dollars is very adequate for a laptop if you are a typical user doing things like browsing, e-mail, listening to audio, the kinds of things typical users do.  I bought a laptop about seven years ago that was on sale but sold when not on sale for something like $470. It is more than adequate for the kinds of uses I've mentioned, and that was nine years ago, when you got less power for that price. 
 
It may be, I don't know, that you would have to spend more money to get a smaller lighter laptop.  But I'm more than satisfied with the one I bought. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It has a good processor, plenty of storage and memory, a touchscreen, and Windows 10 Pro, which I've been wanting. I'll be using it for most of every day, installing lots of apps, developing software with Visual Studio, which is a pretty big app, especially when you choose the development tools you want, downloading plenty of games and books, and doing lots of other stuff. Everything I read when I was researching things suggested that $500 was the bare minimum you should spend on a laptop. I'm planning to learn Python so I can help with NVDA and create my own software, and I already know C++, so I'll be using that too. I have Visual Studio Community, and I've noticed that it seems to run pretty slowly without a lot of RAM. I'll also probably be using Android Studio to develop apps. Also, it's not uncommon for me to have 7 or 8 different apps open and a bunch of tabs open in my browser.


On 3/17/2018 5:11 PM, Gene wrote:
What does using it hard mean?  It's not necessarily how many hours a day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.  You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops.  I don't follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year, I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company, that they all are. 
 
I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the specifications yet,  but what is everything and what is using it hard? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> http://www.avg.com
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>>>
>>>
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Re: Choosing a Laptop

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

Just to throw in my few cents.

If you pay a little (or lot) more, you also get the piece of mind that you're not going to need to upgrade in a few years. Getting a decent performing machine is also subjective, so what works well for some may not for others - and what one calls a good performer may not be by someone elses definition.


I try and go anywhere from 500-1000.


On 17-Mar-2018 7:55 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:

It has a good processor, plenty of storage and memory, a touchscreen, and Windows 10 Pro, which I've been wanting. I'll be using it for most of every day, installing lots of apps, developing software with Visual Studio, which is a pretty big app, especially when you choose the development tools you want, downloading plenty of games and books, and doing lots of other stuff. Everything I read when I was researching things suggested that $500 was the bare minimum you should spend on a laptop. I'm planning to learn Python so I can help with NVDA and create my own software, and I already know C++, so I'll be using that too. I have Visual Studio Community, and I've noticed that it seems to run pretty slowly without a lot of RAM. I'll also probably be using Android Studio to develop apps. Also, it's not uncommon for me to have 7 or 8 different apps open and a bunch of tabs open in my browser.


On 3/17/2018 5:11 PM, Gene wrote:
What does using it hard mean?  It's not necessarily how many hours a day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.  You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops.  I don't follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year, I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company, that they all are. 
 
I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the specifications yet,  but what is everything and what is using it hard? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> http://www.avg.com
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Re: Choosing a Laptop

 

It has a good processor, plenty of storage and memory, a touchscreen, and Windows 10 Pro, which I've been wanting. I'll be using it for most of every day, installing lots of apps, developing software with Visual Studio, which is a pretty big app, especially when you choose the development tools you want, downloading plenty of games and books, and doing lots of other stuff. Everything I read when I was researching things suggested that $500 was the bare minimum you should spend on a laptop. I'm planning to learn Python so I can help with NVDA and create my own software, and I already know C++, so I'll be using that too. I have Visual Studio Community, and I've noticed that it seems to run pretty slowly without a lot of RAM. I'll also probably be using Android Studio to develop apps. Also, it's not uncommon for me to have 7 or 8 different apps open and a bunch of tabs open in my browser.


On 3/17/2018 5:11 PM, Gene wrote:
What does using it hard mean?  It's not necessarily how many hours a day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.  You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops.  I don't follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year, I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company, that they all are. 
 
I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the specifications yet,  but what is everything and what is using it hard? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> http://www.avg.com
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>>>
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>






Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: HELP! Windows can't update

ely.r@...
 

Thanks Jean, Actually used it in the past. Turned out that the Windows installer looked for any file with WindowEyes in it. It was finding old setup files in my download folder. Sent them to the recycle bin and then emptied it. The install went forward.

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 7:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] HELP! Windows can't update

 

Hi

 

I am not a window eyes user but came across the following on there website at https://www.gwmicro.com/Support/Downloads/?fileNo=1114

It says it is for the following Window-Eyes Emergency Removal Utility

 

 

This other link even though it is a manual one says to use the above tool and it looks like it gives you directions to do it at http://www.gwmicro.com/Support/Knowledge_Base/?kbnumber=GWKB1060
Hope the above helps.

Gene nz

On 3/18/2018 6:25 AM, David Griffith wrote:

I saw this problem  on another list and it turned out that bizarrely even if you have completely removed Window Eyes from your system doing a uninstall etc you can still have problems if there is any trace of a Window Eyes  setup file present on the drive. I have my old Window Eyes files on another secondary drive so I have not personally come across this problem.

This problem persisted even though the lister explained that  his old Window Eyes setup files had been compressed into an archive, I cannot remember if it was a zip or rar file.

So Window Eyes was not  installed and the old setup files were having no impact on his system at all, but he could not proceed with his Windows 10 upgrade until he had removed these old compressed setup files from the drive.

I imagine the same problem exists if you have any setup files for Window Eyes anywhere.

Once he had removed them though he was able to proceed.

Pretty odd but that is what he reported.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: ely.r@...
Sent: 17 March 2018 17:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] HELP! Windows can't update

 

Afternoon All,

Let’s start with the fact that forever, I was a WindowEyes worshiper. Second, this is not specifically an NVDA issue. The move to Windows ten went without a hitch. However, new updates have failed. The problem stated by the updater, was that I had incompatible software that the updater could not remove, and that I had to do this manually. The program listed was WindowEyes. When I moved to that other screen reader, I did a standard removed of WE and it no longer is listed as an installed program. Went and did a computer wide search of as many iterations of WindowEyes and GW Micro that I could think up. I did find some lingering fragments of WE and removed them as well. Here I am and the Windows updater has the same issue.

The only place I can think of that has WE fragments left is the registry. Even my nephew who worked as a school tech support person won’t edit that. So much of what info there is about registry cleaners does not make me smile. I have used Wise Registry Cleaner once and with success. I used it as it appeared to be the most trusted by folks writing reviews on line. However it is generally inaccessible with two screen readers. I feel that I was just lucky the time I used it. Here on the list, members have talked about C Cleaner, but again the online comments about it and any registry cleaner are mixed at best.

There be my problem! Is there anybody out there with a solution that is nonthreatening to my registry? ?.

Thanks for any ideas and I hope the luck of the Irish will bring me a pot of golden assistance,

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Voice settings spontaneously resetting to eSpeak

Gene
 

That isn't clear.  If she unloads NVDA and runs it without rebooting, are the settings kept?  Where does NVDA save its settings in the installed version?  We know the portable version doesn't save them in the registry but what about the installed version?  If settings are retained when the screen-reader is unloaded and then run again without rebooting and if the settings are lost when a reboot is done, that implies, at least to me, that settings are kept in the registry and that there is a prroblem keeping the registry from retaining the settings.  We'll see what others say and how things develop. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Howard
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Voice settings spontaneously resetting to eSpeak

She says it only happens when she re-boots. I corrected it again today, and checked the preferences box to tell it to save settings. I will try the ctrl key + nvda key + the letter C  next time I log in remotely.

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On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 4:27 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Could she be using the synth ring key combinations accidentally somehow?
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard" <howard.lee.harkness@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 1:45 AM
Subject: [nvda] Voice settings spontaneously resetting to eSpeak


I have been using N V D A for several years on behalf of a blind lady in Texas, who I now support remotely.

Recently, N V D A has been spontaneously returning to an eSpeak voice instead of her preference, which is the Microsoft Zira voice for the M S A P I 5. I have checked the "save settings on exit" but that doesn't seem to make any difference.

She has a slight hearing deficit that makes it more difficult to understand the "mechanical man" (her term), and has had to have me set it back to Zira several times in the last few weeks.

Is there a command sequence that I can put into a startup file that can force the choice of synth and voice?







--

Howard Lee Harkness
918-416-1420


problem updating to NVDA 2018.1

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Hi all,
I come across the following problem when updating my old NVDA version.
1. Win 7 professional with NVDA 2014.4 installed
2. downloaded NVDA2018.1 and run the exe file
3. progress as usual, yet, when the program was installing, the following error message pop up
The installation is unable to remove or overwrite a file. Another copy of NVDA
may be running on another logged-on user account. Please make sure all
installed copies of NVDA are shut down and try the installation again.

Retry Cancel
4. I try clicking retry and the problem is still there
5. I then click cancel and the install program quit
6. I press ctrl alt n want to call back the original NVDA, however, the old NVDA didn't run.
 7. with sighted assistance, I try running the 2018 exe file again, however the same error message appear again.
8. I try logout again and run the 2018 installer again, however the error appear again
9. I have to run the old NVDA 2014.4 installer, and the NVDA is restored

Any advice would be helpful, thanks.


Re: HELP! Windows can't update

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I am not a window eyes user but came across the following on there website at https://www.gwmicro.com/Support/Downloads/?fileNo=1114

It says it is for the following Window-Eyes Emergency Removal Utility



This other link even though it is a manual one says to use the above tool and it looks like it gives you directions to do it at http://www.gwmicro.com/Support/Knowledge_Base/?kbnumber=GWKB1060
Hope the above helps.

Gene nz

On 3/18/2018 6:25 AM, David Griffith wrote:

I saw this problem  on another list and it turned out that bizarrely even if you have completely removed Window Eyes from your system doing a uninstall etc you can still have problems if there is any trace of a Window Eyes  setup file present on the drive. I have my old Window Eyes files on another secondary drive so I have not personally come across this problem.

This problem persisted even though the lister explained that  his old Window Eyes setup files had been compressed into an archive, I cannot remember if it was a zip or rar file.

So Window Eyes was not  installed and the old setup files were having no impact on his system at all, but he could not proceed with his Windows 10 upgrade until he had removed these old compressed setup files from the drive.

I imagine the same problem exists if you have any setup files for Window Eyes anywhere.

Once he had removed them though he was able to proceed.

Pretty odd but that is what he reported.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: ely.r@...
Sent: 17 March 2018 17:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] HELP! Windows can't update

 

Afternoon All,

Let’s start with the fact that forever, I was a WindowEyes worshiper. Second, this is not specifically an NVDA issue. The move to Windows ten went without a hitch. However, new updates have failed. The problem stated by the updater, was that I had incompatible software that the updater could not remove, and that I had to do this manually. The program listed was WindowEyes. When I moved to that other screen reader, I did a standard removed of WE and it no longer is listed as an installed program. Went and did a computer wide search of as many iterations of WindowEyes and GW Micro that I could think up. I did find some lingering fragments of WE and removed them as well. Here I am and the Windows updater has the same issue.

The only place I can think of that has WE fragments left is the registry. Even my nephew who worked as a school tech support person won’t edit that. So much of what info there is about registry cleaners does not make me smile. I have used Wise Registry Cleaner once and with success. I used it as it appeared to be the most trusted by folks writing reviews on line. However it is generally inaccessible with two screen readers. I feel that I was just lucky the time I used it. Here on the list, members have talked about C Cleaner, but again the online comments about it and any registry cleaner are mixed at best.

There be my problem! Is there anybody out there with a solution that is nonthreatening to my registry? ?.

Thanks for any ideas and I hope the luck of the Irish will bring me a pot of golden assistance,

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 


--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: accessing links in a Kindle book with the Kindle app and NVDA

Mary Otten
 

Thanks. I was hoping that if I went to full screen mode with F11 from within a book, it would take everything off the screen and then maybe tab would work to cycle around with links. But no. It doesn’t. I don’t understand why they had to make tab what they did. It’s really a pain. I appreciate being able to move out of the book to the table of contents with a keystroke. But if they insisted on making a tab, they should at least have something else that lets you find a link.
Mary

On Mar 17, 2018, at 4:10 PM, ely.r@comcast.net wrote:

Mary,
Here is a link to a list of key commands for the Amazon Kindle running on a PC. Did not see just what you were looking for, but there may be something you can use.
Rick
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246000

Dr. Rick Ely
TVI, Vision Consultant
451 Rocky Hill Road
Florence, MA 01062
&413() 727-3038

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 8:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessing links in a Kindle book with the KIndle app and NVDA

I am a big fan of cookbooks, and they often have lots of links to the various recipes. But you can't just start tabbing when you are in a Kindle book, because the first tab takes you out of the text and into the table of contents. Very nice, but not when you want to see links. So how to see links?


Mary








Re: Voice settings spontaneously resetting to eSpeak

Howard <howard.lee.harkness@...>
 

She says it only happens when she re-boots. I corrected it again today, and checked the preferences box to tell it to save settings. I will try the ctrl key + nvda key + the letter C  next time I log in remotely.

Virus-free. www.avast.com

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 4:27 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Could she be using the synth ring key combinations accidentally somehow?
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard" <howard.lee.harkness@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 1:45 AM
Subject: [nvda] Voice settings spontaneously resetting to eSpeak


I have been using N V D A for several years on behalf of a blind lady in Texas, who I now support remotely.

Recently, N V D A has been spontaneously returning to an eSpeak voice instead of her preference, which is the Microsoft Zira voice for the M S A P I 5. I have checked the "save settings on exit" but that doesn't seem to make any difference.

She has a slight hearing deficit that makes it more difficult to understand the "mechanical man" (her term), and has had to have me set it back to Zira several times in the last few weeks.

Is there a command sequence that I can put into a startup file that can force the choice of synth and voice?







--

Howard Lee Harkness
918-416-1420


Re: accessing links in a Kindle book with the Kindle app and NVDA

ely.r@...
 

Mary,
Here is a link to a list of key commands for the Amazon Kindle running on a PC. Did not see just what you were looking for, but there may be something you can use.
Rick
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246000

Dr. Rick Ely
TVI, Vision Consultant
451 Rocky Hill Road
Florence, MA 01062
&413() 727-3038

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 8:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessing links in a Kindle book with the KIndle app and NVDA

I am a big fan of cookbooks, and they often have lots of links to the various recipes. But you can't just start tabbing when you are in a Kindle book, because the first tab takes you out of the text and into the table of contents. Very nice, but not when you want to see links. So how to see links?


Mary


Updating Windows and Code Factory voices

ely.r@...
 

Is it possible that my recent Windows update stole an activation of my Code Factory add-on? It looks like they are running, but when selected from the synthesizer choice in the Preference menu, I get a message that I need to provide my authorization code.

Thanks for any suggestion.

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038


Re: HELP! Windows can't update

John Covici
 

I think that is correct. I have a .zip file of my WE cd, but its on
another drive, so make sure you don't have even a .zip file containing
WindowEyes on your main drive. Now I have WindowEyes actually
installed and Windows does update successfully, I was able to get
2018.02 update.

On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 13:25:53 -0400,
David Griffith wrote:

[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
[2 <text/html; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
I saw this problem on another list and it turned out that bizarrely even if you have completely removed Window Eyes from your system doing a uninstall etc you can still have problems if there is any trace of a Window Eyes setup file
present on the drive. I have my old Window Eyes files on another secondary drive so I have not personally come across this problem.

This problem persisted even though the lister explained that his old Window Eyes setup files had been compressed into an archive, I cannot remember if it was a zip or rar file.

So Window Eyes was not installed and the old setup files were having no impact on his system at all, but he could not proceed with his Windows 10 upgrade until he had removed these old compressed setup files from the drive.

I imagine the same problem exists if you have any setup files for Window Eyes anywhere.

Once he had removed them though he was able to proceed.

Pretty odd but that is what he reported.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

From: ely.r@comcast.net
Sent: 17 March 2018 17:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] HELP! Windows can't update

Afternoon All,

Let’s start with the fact that forever, I was a WindowEyes worshiper. Second, this is not specifically an NVDA issue. The move to Windows ten went without a hitch. However, new updates have failed. The problem stated by the updater, was
that I had incompatible software that the updater could not remove, and that I had to do this manually. The program listed was WindowEyes. When I moved to that other screen reader, I did a standard removed of WE and it no longer is
listed as an installed program. Went and did a computer wide search of as many iterations of WindowEyes and GW Micro that I could think up. I did find some lingering fragments of WE and removed them as well. Here I am and the Windows
updater has the same issue.

The only place I can think of that has WE fragments left is the registry. Even my nephew who worked as a school tech support person won’t edit that. So much of what info there is about registry cleaners does not make me smile. I have
used Wise Registry Cleaner once and with success. I used it as it appeared to be the most trusted by folks writing reviews on line. However it is generally inaccessible with two screen readers. I feel that I was just lucky the time I
used it. Here on the list, members have talked about C Cleaner, but again the online comments about it and any registry cleaner are mixed at best.

There be my problem! Is there anybody out there with a solution that is nonthreatening to my registry? ?.

Thanks for any ideas and I hope the luck of the Irish will bring me a pot of golden assistance,

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413() 727-3038

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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covici@ccs.covici.com


Re: Choosing a Laptop

Gene
 

I just looked at the price.  2000 dollars is a ridiculous price to pay for a laptop unless you are a gamer or a power user who needs top of the line performance and speed.  If you are going to be doing word processing, e-mail, browsing, runnning something like blackboard, listening to audio, and other typical uses, you are spending much more than necessary.  However, if you tell us specifically how you are going to use the computer, we can see if you have any uses that might justify that high end, power user machine in your case.
 
Gene

----- Original Message ------
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> http://www.avg.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>





Re: Choosing a Laptop

Gene
 

What does using it hard mean?  It's not necessarily how many hours a day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.  You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops.  I don't follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year, I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company, that they all are. 
 
I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the specifications yet,  but what is everything and what is using it hard? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> http://www.avg.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>





object navigation keyboard lockers

 

Hello

I was wondering had a add on that would allow one to lock the nvda key kind of what mac does with voice over I forget the exact key lock and

another example is the scan on and off if memory serves that is

on narator in windows10
thanks
Hank--

check out my song on youtube
https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y