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Re: My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8

 

Why would you want to use such an old version? Version 2017.3 still works Wwith Windows XP


Re: My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8

 

i told 2016.4, not 2017.4!

On 3/18/18, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:
NVDA 2017.4 requires Windows 7 or later, and I do think Skype 8 also
requires Windows 7.
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Re: My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8

 

NVDA 2017.4 requires Windows 7 or later, and I do think Skype 8 also requires Windows 7.


Re: problem with NVDA shortcut g for graphic in a webpage

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi try this.

<img src="<a href="http://gilesturnbullpoet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Lucy-Chaplin-Study-in-Red_sm.jpg" alt="image of a painting titled Study in Red by Lucy Chaplin. It is an abstract painting featuring different shades of red, textures and shapes.">
You forgot to put in the opening <a tag for the url since you are nesting.  it into the img tag.  Also, it would be good for you to put in the width and height of the image.  Cheers!

On 3/18/2018 6:02 AM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,

I suspect this is probably a fault in my html coding rather than an NVDA problem, but I'd appreciate any help as to why the following webpage code has one graphic that NVDA finds with the g shortcut whilst the g shortcut does not find the other. If I switch which IMG tag is first then the g shortcut keystroke finds whichever graphic is first and does not find the other!

<p>first paragraph</p>
<img src="http://gilesturnbullpoet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Lucy-Chaplin-Study-in-Red_sm.jpg" alt="image of a painting titled Study in Red by Lucy Chaplin. It is an abstract painting featuring different shades of red, textures and shapes.">

<img src="http://gilesturnbullpoet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Rosie-Moriarty-Simmonds-Blue-Ballet-Slippers" alt="image of the painting Blue Ballet Slippers by mouth painting artist Rosie Moriarty Simmonds. The picture shows a pair of blue ballet pumps en pointe.">
<p>next paragraph</p>

Grateful for any advice on this :)

Thanks,

Giles


Re: problem updating to NVDA 2018.1

 

hi.
did you try restarting your computer?
it can help resolving many issues.
if not, you can uninstall previous version of nvda and reinstall new
version, or use system restore.

On 3/18/18, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I come across the following problem when updating my old NVDA version.
1. Win 7 professional with NVDA 2014.4 installed
2. downloaded NVDA2018.1 and run the exe file
3. progress as usual, yet, when the program was installing, the
following error message pop up
The installation is unable to remove or overwrite a file. Another copy
of NVDA
may be running on another logged-on user account. Please make sure all
installed copies of NVDA are shut down and try the installation again.

Retry Cancel
4. I try clicking retry and the problem is still there
5. I then click cancel and the install program quit
6. I press ctrl alt n want to call back the original NVDA, however, the
old NVDA didn't run.
 7. with sighted assistance, I try running the 2018 exe file again,
however the same error message appear again.
8. I try logout again and run the 2018 installer again, however the
error appear again
9. I have to run the old NVDA 2014.4 installer, and the NVDA is restored

Any advice would be helpful, thanks.




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By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8

 

does nvda 2016.4 support it?
i decided to use this version of nvda forever!

On 3/18/18, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmmm well While I like skype7 for what it is its not all that cool really.

If new skype is becoming a web based uwp page thingy and if I can get
used to it, giving that nvda's strength is web elements then maybe
things are changing for the better.




On 18/03/2018 2:18 p.m., Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
Hi,
I recently updated Skype to the new Skype 8 via Ninight. I did just gave
NVDA a try, and I must say, I'm quite satisfied with how NVDA performs
(haven't try going into the settings yet though). The fact that NVDA
treats Skype as a web page means I can just press the e key to jump to the
message edit box, without having to tab around, which I find quite
annoying in Skype 7. Also, once I exit the focus mode on the message edit
field, I'm able to use the up/down arrow keys to review the messages in
the chat, which is once again more convenient than tabbing around.
However I do miss the ability to set custom hotkeys, notifications when
someone signs in or sends a message, and the list of pending contact
requests though.
At first, I thought NVDA would work horribly with the new Skype, judging
by a thread about this on the list earlier but my experience seems to
prove otherwise.
But if I'm on Windows 10, I'll still use the Skype UWP as it's
preinstalled.



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By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
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from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Choosing a Laptop

Gene
 

As I recall, 500 dollars is considered a price where you can get a reasonably good laptop, according to what I read perhaps a year or a year and a half ago.  I mean 500 dollars not on sale. 
 
You can look at this page and follow the laptop link to see what is presented there.  I didn't look at more than this one page this evening but if you follow the laptop link, I think you will get price recommendations for laptops that will suit different needs.
 
Gene

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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

aren't the poorest, underpowered and cheap laptops around 500 dollars in the states? I definately wouldn't get anything below an i5, and would try to get the latest eighth gen processor, which has 4 cores instead of 2.


On 3/18/2018 1:11 AM, Gene wrote:
What does using it hard mean?  It's not necessarily how many hours a day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.  You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops.  I don't follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year, I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company, that they all are. 
 
I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the specifications yet,  but what is everything and what is using it hard? 
 
Gene
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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
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Re: Choosing a Laptop

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

These days, a cheap laptop can be had for less than $300.

Laugh at them, but the Intel Atom, celleron and pentium processors, for day to day use like web browsing, office tasks and email do just fine.

I'm using a t100 from 2013 with an intel atom z3740 and I still get 10 plus hours of batterylife. I love it. They have a new one out now, the transformer book mini by asus. Very solid design.


On 17-Mar-2018 10:17 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:

That's a big part of why I want this laptop. It has the 8th generation Intel I7.


On 3/17/2018 9:59 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:

aren't the poorest, underpowered and cheap laptops around 500 dollars in the states? I definately wouldn't get anything below an i5, and would try to get the latest eighth gen processor, which has 4 cores instead of 2.


On 3/18/2018 1:11 AM, Gene wrote:
What does using it hard mean?  It's not necessarily how many hours a day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.  You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops.  I don't follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year, I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company, that they all are. 
 
I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the specifications yet,  but what is everything and what is using it hard? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
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Re: My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8

 

Hmmm well While I like skype7 for what it is its not all that cool really.

If new skype is becoming a web based uwp page thingy and if I can get used to it, giving that nvda's strength is web elements then maybe things are changing for the better.

On 18/03/2018 2:18 p.m., Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
Hi,
I recently updated Skype to the new Skype 8 via Ninight. I did just gave NVDA a try, and I must say, I'm quite satisfied with how NVDA performs (haven't try going into the settings yet though). The fact that NVDA treats Skype as a web page means I can just press the e key to jump to the message edit box, without having to tab around, which I find quite annoying in Skype 7. Also, once I exit the focus mode on the message edit field, I'm able to use the up/down arrow keys to review the messages in the chat, which is once again more convenient than tabbing around.
However I do miss the ability to set custom hotkeys, notifications when someone signs in or sends a message, and the list of pending contact requests though.
At first, I thought NVDA would work horribly with the new Skype, judging by a thread about this on the list earlier but my experience seems to prove otherwise.
But if I'm on Windows 10, I'll still use the Skype UWP as it's preinstalled.


Re: Choosing a Laptop

 

Well I have had good use out of an hp unit, while I do have issues with their support system and their action keys and the fact that their drivers for sound and such seem to have some issues, I have had no real issue, my aunt has a tu, entry level laptop and its fine for what it is.

For me I will have a tx which is their entertainment grade or ax level which handles just about everything.

My plan is to have dedicated graphics 2gb minimum just so I can enjoy my reader without it using shared

memmory and to play some hybrid games on and some of them do exist.

Over that duel drives, and either a dvd or simply an external one.

The other maker I am toying with is asus not because of their software which is totally inaccessible but for performance though hp works out of the box and just about all their apps for the most part are accessible to a point.

On 18/03/2018 9:56 a.m., Don H wrote:
I have had a lot of good luck with HP laptops.  I don't buy their cheapest models.  For example I have a HP envy  laptop that I bought for under $700.  It has a Intel 7 processor 12 Gig of Ram and a TB hard drive.  At that price I can buy two more and still be below the price on the computer you are looking at.  However on the other side of the thought if you can afford it why not buy what you want.  So if that is what you want go for it.  Only other thought is that computers and electronics in general go down in value really fast.  If you are paying $100 per month you will owe more on the computer than its worth before the first year is out.

On 3/17/2018 3:49 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.

On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do you all think?

On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lanie Molinar
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for. I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if that seems better. I would also be happy with something running Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks.


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Re: Choosing a Laptop

 

That's a big part of why I want this laptop. It has the 8th generation Intel I7.


On 3/17/2018 9:59 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:

aren't the poorest, underpowered and cheap laptops around 500 dollars in the states? I definately wouldn't get anything below an i5, and would try to get the latest eighth gen processor, which has 4 cores instead of 2.


On 3/18/2018 1:11 AM, Gene wrote:
What does using it hard mean?  It's not necessarily how many hours a day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.  You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops.  I don't follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year, I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company, that they all are. 
 
I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the specifications yet,  but what is everything and what is using it hard? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
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Re: Choosing a Laptop

 

Hi,

Depends on manufacturer and model. I’ve seen laptops go under 500 dollars (as low as 250).

Lanie’s requirements sort of reflect what I did last year when ordering a Lenovo ThinkPad. I got a Core I5 with 8 GB of RAM and 512 GB SSD, intending for software development work and for testing various apps. I also asked for a fingerprint reader and touchscreen for various reasons (in particular, I needed a touchscreen device in order to continue my work with one particular add-on). All this (a custom-built Lenovo ThinkPad T470) cost 1400 dollars. Lanie may have gotten more powerful components and a newer processor than mine, which may explain the higher cost.

As for development work: I hope you can tell us stories of adventures with Windows Subsystem for Linux. Soon, you’ll be blown away by a feature that’ll make some software development scenarios easier (I’ll give a brief demo of that one at an upcoming Accessible World Tek Talk presentation).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 7:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

aren't the poorest, underpowered and cheap laptops around 500 dollars in the states? I definately wouldn't get anything below an i5, and would try to get the latest eighth gen processor, which has 4 cores instead of 2.

 

On 3/18/2018 1:11 AM, Gene wrote:

What does using it hard mean?  It's not necessarily how many hours a day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.  You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops.  I don't follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year, I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company, that they all are. 

 

I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the specifications yet,  but what is everything and what is using it hard? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> http://www.avg.com
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Choosing a Laptop

enes sarıbaş
 

aren't the poorest, underpowered and cheap laptops around 500 dollars in the states? I definately wouldn't get anything below an i5, and would try to get the latest eighth gen processor, which has 4 cores instead of 2.


On 3/18/2018 1:11 AM, Gene wrote:
What does using it hard mean?  It's not necessarily how many hours a day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.  You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops.  I don't follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year, I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company, that they all are. 
 
I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the specifications yet,  but what is everything and what is using it hard? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> http://www.avg.com
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Re: powerpoint keeps matching keyboard and proofing language

enes sarıbaş
 

this is for powerpoint, not for nvda.

On 3/17/2018 8:32 AM, zahra wrote:
uncheck Automatic language switching (when supported) in voice setting of nvda.
you dont need to disable turkish language as you deed!

On 3/17/18, enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@gmail.com> wrote:
hi,

I use the turkish keyboard layout, even when typing english. I have an
annoying problem. Whenever I type a single character in powerpoint, or
in word, the proofing language switches to turkish. I disabled and
removed turkish from the languages, and set english as defaults. I also
disabled detect language automatically in word. Is there anyhting I can
do, other than switching keyboard layouts?





Re: Updating Windows and Code Factory voices

John Isige
 

Yes. Major updates, like Creators and possibly the bigger ones every
three months or whatever they are, will break your license. So if you
think you might have a major update, you probably want to unlicense, let
it update, and reactivate. I can't guarantee this, but when I emailed
them about it when it happened to me, they reset my activations.

On 3/17/2018 17:48, ely.r@comcast.net wrote:
Updating Windows and Code Factory voices

Is it possible that my recent Windows update stole an activation of my
Code Factory add-on? It looks like they are running, but when selected
from thesynthesizer choice in the Preference menu, I get a message
that I need to provide myauthorization code.

Thanks for any suggestion.

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038


My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8

 

Hi,
I recently updated Skype to the new Skype 8 via Ninight. I did just gave NVDA a try, and I must say, I'm quite satisfied with how NVDA performs (haven't try going into the settings yet though). The fact that NVDA treats Skype as a web page means I can just press the e key to jump to the message edit box, without having to tab around, which I find quite annoying in Skype 7. Also, once I exit the focus mode on the message edit field, I'm able to use the up/down arrow keys to review the messages in the chat, which is once again more convenient than tabbing around.
However I do miss the ability to set custom hotkeys, notifications when someone signs in or sends a message, and the list of pending contact requests though.
At first, I thought NVDA would work horribly with the new Skype, judging by a thread about this on the list earlier but my experience seems to prove otherwise.
But if I'm on Windows 10, I'll still use the Skype UWP as it's preinstalled.


Re: Choosing a Laptop

Gene
 

I don't know enough to comment on those uses.  It may be that you need a powerful computer.  Whether you need to spend that much money, I'll let others discuss. 
 
500 dollars is very adequate for a laptop if you are a typical user doing things like browsing, e-mail, listening to audio, the kinds of things typical users do.  I bought a laptop about seven years ago that was on sale but sold when not on sale for something like $470. It is more than adequate for the kinds of uses I've mentioned, and that was nine years ago, when you got less power for that price. 
 
It may be, I don't know, that you would have to spend more money to get a smaller lighter laptop.  But I'm more than satisfied with the one I bought. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It has a good processor, plenty of storage and memory, a touchscreen, and Windows 10 Pro, which I've been wanting. I'll be using it for most of every day, installing lots of apps, developing software with Visual Studio, which is a pretty big app, especially when you choose the development tools you want, downloading plenty of games and books, and doing lots of other stuff. Everything I read when I was researching things suggested that $500 was the bare minimum you should spend on a laptop. I'm planning to learn Python so I can help with NVDA and create my own software, and I already know C++, so I'll be using that too. I have Visual Studio Community, and I've noticed that it seems to run pretty slowly without a lot of RAM. I'll also probably be using Android Studio to develop apps. Also, it's not uncommon for me to have 7 or 8 different apps open and a bunch of tabs open in my browser.


On 3/17/2018 5:11 PM, Gene wrote:
What does using it hard mean?  It's not necessarily how many hours a day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.  You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops.  I don't follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year, I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company, that they all are. 
 
I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the specifications yet,  but what is everything and what is using it hard? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> http://www.avg.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Choosing a Laptop

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

Just to throw in my few cents.

If you pay a little (or lot) more, you also get the piece of mind that you're not going to need to upgrade in a few years. Getting a decent performing machine is also subjective, so what works well for some may not for others - and what one calls a good performer may not be by someone elses definition.


I try and go anywhere from 500-1000.


On 17-Mar-2018 7:55 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:

It has a good processor, plenty of storage and memory, a touchscreen, and Windows 10 Pro, which I've been wanting. I'll be using it for most of every day, installing lots of apps, developing software with Visual Studio, which is a pretty big app, especially when you choose the development tools you want, downloading plenty of games and books, and doing lots of other stuff. Everything I read when I was researching things suggested that $500 was the bare minimum you should spend on a laptop. I'm planning to learn Python so I can help with NVDA and create my own software, and I already know C++, so I'll be using that too. I have Visual Studio Community, and I've noticed that it seems to run pretty slowly without a lot of RAM. I'll also probably be using Android Studio to develop apps. Also, it's not uncommon for me to have 7 or 8 different apps open and a bunch of tabs open in my browser.


On 3/17/2018 5:11 PM, Gene wrote:
What does using it hard mean?  It's not necessarily how many hours a day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.  You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops.  I don't follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year, I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company, that they all are. 
 
I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the specifications yet,  but what is everything and what is using it hard? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> http://www.avg.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Choosing a Laptop

 

It has a good processor, plenty of storage and memory, a touchscreen, and Windows 10 Pro, which I've been wanting. I'll be using it for most of every day, installing lots of apps, developing software with Visual Studio, which is a pretty big app, especially when you choose the development tools you want, downloading plenty of games and books, and doing lots of other stuff. Everything I read when I was researching things suggested that $500 was the bare minimum you should spend on a laptop. I'm planning to learn Python so I can help with NVDA and create my own software, and I already know C++, so I'll be using that too. I have Visual Studio Community, and I've noticed that it seems to run pretty slowly without a lot of RAM. I'll also probably be using Android Studio to develop apps. Also, it's not uncommon for me to have 7 or 8 different apps open and a bunch of tabs open in my browser.


On 3/17/2018 5:11 PM, Gene wrote:
What does using it hard mean?  It's not necessarily how many hours a day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.  You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops.  I don't follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year, I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company, that they all are. 
 
I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the specifications yet,  but what is everything and what is using it hard? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> http://www.avg.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: HELP! Windows can't update

ely.r@...
 

Thanks Jean, Actually used it in the past. Turned out that the Windows installer looked for any file with WindowEyes in it. It was finding old setup files in my download folder. Sent them to the recycle bin and then emptied it. The install went forward.

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 7:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] HELP! Windows can't update

 

Hi

 

I am not a window eyes user but came across the following on there website at https://www.gwmicro.com/Support/Downloads/?fileNo=1114

It says it is for the following Window-Eyes Emergency Removal Utility

 

 

This other link even though it is a manual one says to use the above tool and it looks like it gives you directions to do it at http://www.gwmicro.com/Support/Knowledge_Base/?kbnumber=GWKB1060
Hope the above helps.

Gene nz

On 3/18/2018 6:25 AM, David Griffith wrote:

I saw this problem  on another list and it turned out that bizarrely even if you have completely removed Window Eyes from your system doing a uninstall etc you can still have problems if there is any trace of a Window Eyes  setup file present on the drive. I have my old Window Eyes files on another secondary drive so I have not personally come across this problem.

This problem persisted even though the lister explained that  his old Window Eyes setup files had been compressed into an archive, I cannot remember if it was a zip or rar file.

So Window Eyes was not  installed and the old setup files were having no impact on his system at all, but he could not proceed with his Windows 10 upgrade until he had removed these old compressed setup files from the drive.

I imagine the same problem exists if you have any setup files for Window Eyes anywhere.

Once he had removed them though he was able to proceed.

Pretty odd but that is what he reported.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: ely.r@...
Sent: 17 March 2018 17:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] HELP! Windows can't update

 

Afternoon All,

Let’s start with the fact that forever, I was a WindowEyes worshiper. Second, this is not specifically an NVDA issue. The move to Windows ten went without a hitch. However, new updates have failed. The problem stated by the updater, was that I had incompatible software that the updater could not remove, and that I had to do this manually. The program listed was WindowEyes. When I moved to that other screen reader, I did a standard removed of WE and it no longer is listed as an installed program. Went and did a computer wide search of as many iterations of WindowEyes and GW Micro that I could think up. I did find some lingering fragments of WE and removed them as well. Here I am and the Windows updater has the same issue.

The only place I can think of that has WE fragments left is the registry. Even my nephew who worked as a school tech support person won’t edit that. So much of what info there is about registry cleaners does not make me smile. I have used Wise Registry Cleaner once and with success. I used it as it appeared to be the most trusted by folks writing reviews on line. However it is generally inaccessible with two screen readers. I feel that I was just lucky the time I used it. Here on the list, members have talked about C Cleaner, but again the online comments about it and any registry cleaner are mixed at best.

There be my problem! Is there anybody out there with a solution that is nonthreatening to my registry? ?.

Thanks for any ideas and I hope the luck of the Irish will bring me a pot of golden assistance,

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

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