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Re: My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8

John Isige
 

Pretty sure you can hit escape to close out of chats. Here's the list of keyboard shortcuts.


https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12025/what-are-hotkeys-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-skype

On 3/18/2018 5:11, Rob Hudson wrote:
Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:
I still couldn't figure out how to close out of a particular chat window though.

Do individual chats open in separate tabs like thunderbird email messages?


websites

AKH AKH
 

Hi all


Has anyone designed a website using Wix?  I have viewed a few sites and
they seem to be accessible with NVDA.


Andrew


Re: Choosing a Laptop

Sarah k Alawami
 

I paid over 3 grand for my laptop but I over did everything so I could future proof it for about 5 to 7 years.. Plus it's custom built. It is serving my needs but I do a lot of video gaming and capturing of video, hopefully one day 4k video etc..

Drive c has 500 gigs. Drive d has 1 tb. 32 gigs of ram. A 6 ghz processor and a 4 ghz gpu. And the paste on everything, plus windows  pro. That's about it. I am an  affiliate for this company so if you want to know more hit me off list as I don't want to clutter the list.

On Mar 17, 2018, at 8:07 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
Depends on manufacturer and model. I’ve seen laptops go under 500 dollars (as low as 250).
Lanie’s requirements sort of reflect what I did last year when ordering a Lenovo ThinkPad. I got a Core I5 with 8 GB of RAM and 512 GB SSD, intending for software development work and for testing various apps. I also asked for a fingerprint reader and touchscreen for various reasons (in particular, I needed a touchscreen device in order to continue my work with one particular add-on). All this (a custom-built Lenovo ThinkPad T470) cost 1400 dollars. Lanie may have gotten more powerful components and a newer processor than mine, which may explain the higher cost.
As for development work: I hope you can tell us stories of adventures with Windows Subsystem for Linux. Soon, you’ll be blown away by a feature that’ll make some software development scenarios easier (I’ll give a brief demo of that one at an upcoming Accessible World Tek Talk presentation).
Cheers,
Joseph
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 7:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
 

aren't the poorest, underpowered and cheap laptops around 500 dollars in the states? I definately wouldn't get anything below an i5, and would try to get the latest eighth gen processor, which has 4 cores instead of 2.

 
On 3/18/2018 1:11 AM, Gene wrote:
What does using it hard mean?  It's not necessarily how many hours a day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.  You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops.  I don't follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year, I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company, that they all are.  
 
I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the specifications yet,  but what is everything and what is using it hard?  
 
Gene
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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
 

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing 
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price 
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that 
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended 
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I 
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS 
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a 
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a 
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each 
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that 
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would 
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do 
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of 
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software 
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new 
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a 
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for. 
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so 
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several 
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I 
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer 
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing 
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with 
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if 
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running 
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of 
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look 
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle 
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is 
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good 
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a 
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For 
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what 
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help. 
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
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Add-on advisory: Resource Monitor 18.04 changes, last version to support Windows versions earlier than 7 SP1

 

Hi everyone,

 

For Resource Monitor add-on users: a few months ago I did announce that I’m gradually removing support for older Windows releases, and the time has come to move on from recently unsupported Windows releases. Along with that, the next version of the add-on will bring significant changes to how Windows 10 releases are detected.

 

Details:

  • Old Windows releases: Resource Monitor 18.04 will be the last version to support Windows releases earlier than 7 SP1 (that is, no more support for Windows Vista, Server 2003 and 2008 after 18.04).
  • Windows 10 release detection: in the past, this add-on used build ranges to detect which version of Windows 10 you’re running. This meant some of you would have gotten a message stating that you’re running Insider build when in fact you are on public build. I found a more reliable way to detect Windows 10 releases (via Registry) so people won’t experience wrong version announcement. This change also allows Windows Insiders to know the release ID for the upcoming release ahead of time.

 

Resource Monitor 18.04 is scheduled to hit the air around March 26th.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Choosing a Laptop

Josh Kennedy
 

I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps, spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech recognition. here is the link. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch


Re: HELP! Windows can't update

ely.r@...
 

Thanks for the suggestions. It turned out that the Windows updater looked
for anything to do with WE. There were uninstalled WE setup files in my
download folder. Deleted them and cleared my recycle bin, and the install
ran without a hitch.
Rick

Dr. Rick Ely
TVI, Vision Consultant
451 Rocky Hill Road
Florence, MA 01062
&413() 727-3038

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 5:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] HELP! Windows can't update

Hmm what I would do, and assuming this program will work is this. Windows 10
is presumably the 64 bit version. What was on the machine previously?

Can you still get back?
If yes then do so, put back window Eyes, and use Revo the old version to do
a maximum scanned uninstall, where it can take away loose registry entries.

if avast has ever been on the system get rid of it with the avast cleaner
program. Do your upgrade to windows 10. Now things should work.
I had both these issues on my now long dead desktop that ran Windows 7 when
I upgraded it to 10. However it failed when it tried to install the first
updates straight after the initial update to 10, so rolling it back was
easy, if a little long winded.
Otherwise you could try removing window eyes and avast if its there in
windows 10 with revo, but I don't know if it can run. Because windw eyes is
32 bit the free old version has no issues removing it.
Avast is still the cleaner program.

Are you definitely sure the problem is the window eyes software? In my case
it was the freeby Microsoft gave away with Office for a while and so I was
surprised Microsoft had not figured out how to remove it properly!

I expect others will be along to suggest other things though.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: <ely.r@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 5:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] HELP! Windows can't update


Afternoon All,
Let's start with the fact that forever, I was a WindowEyes worshiper.
Second, this is not specifically an NVDA issue. The move to Windows ten
went
without a hitch. However, new updates have failed. The problem stated by
the
updater, was that I had incompatible software that the updater could not
remove, and that I had to do this manually. The program listed was
WindowEyes. When I moved to that other screen reader, I did a standard
removed of WE and it no longer is listed as an installed program. Went and
did a computer wide search of as many iterations of WindowEyes and GW
Micro
that I could think up. I did find some lingering fragments of WE and
removed
them as well. Here I am and the Windows updater has the same issue.

The only place I can think of that has WE fragments left is the registry.
Even my nephew who worked as a school tech support person won't edit that.
So much of what info there is about registry cleaners does not make me
smile. I have used Wise Registry Cleaner once and with success. I used it
as
it appeared to be the most trusted by folks writing reviews on line.
However
it is generally inaccessible with two screen readers. I feel that I was
just
lucky the time I used it. Here on the list, members have talked about C
Cleaner, but again the online comments about it and any registry cleaner
are
mixed at best.

There be my problem! Is there anybody out there with a solution that is
nonthreatening to my registry? ?.
Thanks for any ideas and I hope the luck of the Irish will bring me a pot
of
golden assistance,
Rick

Dr. Rick Ely
TVI, Vision Consultant
451 Rocky Hill Road
Florence, MA 01062
&413() 727-3038



Re: Off at CSUN for the next week

ely.r@...
 

Quentin

Is there any chance that your session will be recorded? Wish I could be there for both. The second is of particular interest as I will be working with seniors starting this spring, and would hope to get family members involved as supports at home.

 

Best of luck,

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 5:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Off at CSUN for the next week

 

Hi everyone,

 

Just to let you know that the NV Access crew will all be off at the CSUN conference in San Diego for the next week.

 

Firstly, if anyone will be at CSUN, do please come and see us!  We'll be presenting in HillCrest A&B on Wednesday 21st at 2:20pm on "Introducing the new NV Access and redesigned NVDA".  Basically talking about what we (and you) have been up to lately and where we're going.  We're staying in the room after the presentation as at 3:20 we're following up with "Choosing and Using NVDA", which is designed to be an overview of NVDA, a bit of a walk through installing it, and a bit of information for those supporting a range of users, from family members, to those with low vision and also corporate and government users.  Aside from that, we'll be at various other presentations and generally be loitering about the hotel, and / or San Diego at large.

 

Secondly, that means I probably won't be on here.  I'll try and catch up when I get back, but feel free to write to me directly if you do need me to see it (I still may or may not get a chance to reply before I get back).

 

Have a great week everyone, and I hope to get to meet some of you before I return!

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 


 

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Re: object navigation keyboard lockers

Adriani Botez
 

Hello,

you can use the addon objpad for this:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/objPad.de.html

I have created two issues on github regarding locking and improving review and navigation modes in NVDA. You can find the issues and discussions here:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7759

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7749


Best
Adriani

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An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] object navigation keyboard lockers

Hello

I was wondering had a add on that would allow one to lock the nvda key kind
of what mac does with voice over I forget the exact key lock and

another example is the scan on and off if memory serves that is

on narator in windows10
thanks
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Re: Off at CSUN for the next week

Adriani Botez
 

Dear Quentin,

 

I wish you and your team a good time on CSun, good discussions and maybe new opportunities. Unfortunately I cannot visit the CSun this year, but next year I will be there to visit you all.

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Quentin Christensen
Gesendet: Sonntag, 18. März 2018 10:53
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] Off at CSUN for the next week

 

Hi everyone,

 

Just to let you know that the NV Access crew will all be off at the CSUN conference in San Diego for the next week.

 

Firstly, if anyone will be at CSUN, do please come and see us!  We'll be presenting in HillCrest A&B on Wednesday 21st at 2:20pm on "Introducing the new NV Access and redesigned NVDA".  Basically talking about what we (and you) have been up to lately and where we're going.  We're staying in the room after the presentation as at 3:20 we're following up with "Choosing and Using NVDA", which is designed to be an overview of NVDA, a bit of a walk through installing it, and a bit of information for those supporting a range of users, from family members, to those with low vision and also corporate and government users.  Aside from that, we'll be at various other presentations and generally be loitering about the hotel, and / or San Diego at large.

 

Secondly, that means I probably won't be on here.  I'll try and catch up when I get back, but feel free to write to me directly if you do need me to see it (I still may or may not get a chance to reply before I get back).

 

Have a great week everyone, and I hope to get to meet some of you before I return!

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 


 

--

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Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

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Re: Choosing a Laptop

Lenron
 

Well for 2 grand this might be better than buying a mac book for that
price, but I still think you can get something a little cheaper and
still get everything you want. What kind of gaming are you planning on
doing? You could get a pc for gaming right around 1300 with a nice bit
of ram and storage.

On 3/18/18, enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@gmail.com> wrote:
don't forget that you can get significant discounts, on places like the
microsoft store if you are a student.

For instance, all students get a 25% discount on all laptops if I recall
correctly. Moreover, these discounts can be applied ontop of additional
discounts. For instance, I saw a killer i7 laptop with the latest specs,
with a 43% discount, plus the 25% student discount that could go for
like 700-600 a few years ago.


On 3/18/2018 8:38 AM, Gene wrote:
As I recall, 500 dollars is considered a price where you can get a
reasonably good laptop, according to what I read perhaps a year or a
year and a half ago.  I mean 500 dollars not on sale.
You can look at this page and follow the laptop link to see what is
presented there.  I didn't look at more than this one page this
evening but if you follow the laptop link, I think you will get price
recommendations for laptops that will suit different needs.
https://www.komando.com/buying-guides/242155/buying-a-new-computer-2
Gene
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*From:* enes sarıbaş <mailto:enes.saribas@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, March 17, 2018 9:59 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

aren't the poorest, underpowered and cheap laptops around 500 dollars
in the states? I definately wouldn't get anything below an i5, and
would try to get the latest eighth gen processor, which has 4 cores
instead of 2.


On 3/18/2018 1:11 AM, Gene wrote:
What does using it hard mean? It's not necessarily how many hours a
day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap
bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five
hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.
You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops. I don't
follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year,
I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may
put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I
wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company,
that they all are.
I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the
specifications yet, but what is everything and what is using it hard?
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lanie Molinar <mailto:laniemolinar91@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.

On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS



I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
you all think?

On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Lanie Molinar
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
Thanks.


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Re: problem with NVDA shortcut g for graphic in a webpage

Giles Turnbull
 

I deleted the post because I was looking back at my code and realised I'd made a stupid coding error! I coppied the link to the image from my Wordpress media library, but did not notice there were half a dozen characters, including the .jpg missing from the filename I coppied! Once I used the full filename the image worked fine and the g navigation shortcut worked perfectly :)

Thanks for your comment though :)

Giles


Re: Off at CSUN for the next week

Quentin Christensen
 

Shhh!  Don't give away all my security secrets :)  At least you didn't tell them about the flame thrower in the doorbell!

Wait, I've said too much!

In any case, I'm leaving my wife home, and she's MUCH scarier than I am (just, er, to burglars dear spouse of mine, if you are reading this...)


On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 9:05 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
But for would be burglars remember they have a crocodile infested moat and robot guard dogs equipped with stun guns.
:-)

It seems half the world  is off there this week, so good luck.

We will await the thrilling reports later on.

I'm in the UK, but obviously not going!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:52 AM
Subject: [nvda] Off at CSUN for the next week



Hi everyone,

Just to let you know that the NV Access crew will all be off at the CSUN
conference in San Diego for the next week.

Firstly, if anyone will be at CSUN, do please come and see us!  We'll be
presenting in HillCrest A&B on Wednesday 21st at 2:20pm on "Introducing the
new NV Access and redesigned NVDA".  Basically talking about what we (and
you) have been up to lately and where we're going.  We're staying in the
room after the presentation as at 3:20 we're following up with "Choosing
and Using NVDA", which is designed to be an overview of NVDA, a bit of a
walk through installing it, and a bit of information for those supporting a
range of users, from family members, to those with low vision and also
corporate and government users.  Aside from that, we'll be at various other
presentations and generally be loitering about the hotel, and / or San
Diego at large.

Secondly, that means I probably won't be on here.  I'll try and catch up
when I get back, but feel free to write to me directly if you do need me to
see it (I still may or may not get a chance to reply before I get back).

Have a great week everyone, and I hope to get to meet some of you before I
return!

Kind regards

Quentin.



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Training and Support Manager

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http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
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Training and Support Manager

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Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8

 

From what I can see, it's not being opened in a separate tab, it's more like a popup but I couldn't find any button to close the chat.


Re: My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8

Rob Hudson
 

Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:
I still couldn't figure out how to close out of a particular chat window though.

Do individual chats open in separate tabs like thunderbird email messages?


Re: My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8

 

I did further testing with NVDA, specifically when typing a message and trying to copy messages in the chat window, and the results were very satisfying. As I mentioned, NVDA treats the new Skype 8 interface as a web page, so standard browse mode commands work as expected. The settings page, I must say, works pretty good with NVDA.
Note all tests are done on a Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit machine with NVDA 2018.1 installed.
For those resisting the upgrade, I suggest you give the new Skype 8 at least a try. True you will lose the ability to customize hotkeys and change the app sounds, but overall I think the experience is better compared to Skype 7 as you don't really need to tab around the interface that much, especially in the chat window. I still couldn't figure out how to close out of a particular chat window though.


Re: Off at CSUN for the next week

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

But for would be burglars remember they have a crocodile infested moat and robot guard dogs equipped with stun guns.
:-)

It seems half the world is off there this week, so good luck.

We will await the thrilling reports later on.

I'm in the UK, but obviously not going!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:52 AM
Subject: [nvda] Off at CSUN for the next week


Hi everyone,

Just to let you know that the NV Access crew will all be off at the CSUN
conference in San Diego for the next week.

Firstly, if anyone will be at CSUN, do please come and see us! We'll be
presenting in HillCrest A&B on Wednesday 21st at 2:20pm on "Introducing the
new NV Access and redesigned NVDA". Basically talking about what we (and
you) have been up to lately and where we're going. We're staying in the
room after the presentation as at 3:20 we're following up with "Choosing
and Using NVDA", which is designed to be an overview of NVDA, a bit of a
walk through installing it, and a bit of information for those supporting a
range of users, from family members, to those with low vision and also
corporate and government users. Aside from that, we'll be at various other
presentations and generally be loitering about the hotel, and / or San
Diego at large.

Secondly, that means I probably won't be on here. I'll try and catch up
when I get back, but feel free to write to me directly if you do need me to
see it (I still may or may not get a chance to reply before I get back).

Have a great week everyone, and I hope to get to meet some of you before I
return!

Kind regards

Quentin.



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Re: My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8

 

i ment continue support of skype for xp users, because skype is just a
messenger and its not engineering programm to need more powerful
hardware and new operating system.

On 3/18/18, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
i wish that microsoft does not stop using skype for xp users, while i
prefer web page based that i read in the list about skype 8.
its very great, if i can navigate in messages like web pages and not
just using nvda cursor to review the content of messages!

i heard that using skype for mobile, does not force its users to update!
but the people cant have audio call in groups, then can contact one
person in the time.
i have one screen reader and use only firefox and dont have any
problem in this regard!
the only advantage of chrome is supporting farsi pdf documents.

On 3/18/18, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
even version 2015.4 is also Good for me.
i only prefer 2016.3 and later because of american accent which i love
in espeak and selection of text which is changed in nvda 2016.3 and
later!
i dont believe updating just for updating!
i prefer one software to meet my need, even if thousand versions of
softwares is available!
i love this version and did not extra features and changes in newer
versions of nvda.

On 3/18/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Yes it seems that Microsoft are going further and not allowing skype
installed on xp to even connect after a certain date. There have been
mutterings about a big security hole in Skype, but I guess they are
hardly
likely to tell the hackers what it was, they are just going to stop
machines

with code that has it to no longer work.

I think this even covers Skype on older mobile operating systems for
phones

as well.
brian
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Supanut Leepaisomboon" <supanut2000@outlook.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8


NVDA 2017.4 requires Windows 7 or later, and I do think Skype 8 also
requires Windows 7.





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in order that
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with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
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from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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were I given all the seven heavens
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in order that
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by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Choosing a Laptop

enes sarıbaş
 

don't forget that you can get significant discounts, on places like the microsoft store if you are a student.

For instance, all students get a 25% discount on all laptops if I recall correctly. Moreover, these discounts can be applied ontop of additional discounts. For instance, I saw a killer i7 laptop with the latest specs, with a 43% discount, plus the 25% student discount that could go for like 700-600 a few years ago.


On 3/18/2018 8:38 AM, Gene wrote:
As I recall, 500 dollars is considered a price where you can get a reasonably good laptop, according to what I read perhaps a year or a year and a half ago.  I mean 500 dollars not on sale. 
 
You can look at this page and follow the laptop link to see what is presented there.  I didn't look at more than this one page this evening but if you follow the laptop link, I think you will get price recommendations for laptops that will suit different needs.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

aren't the poorest, underpowered and cheap laptops around 500 dollars in the states? I definately wouldn't get anything below an i5, and would try to get the latest eighth gen processor, which has 4 cores instead of 2.


On 3/18/2018 1:11 AM, Gene wrote:
What does using it hard mean?  It's not necessarily how many hours a day you use it but how you use it.  You don't want to get a cheap bottom of the line laptop, but for a lot of users, a roughly five hundred dollar laptop, perhaps cheaper if it's on sale, will serve.  You might want to see which are the most reliable laptops.  I don't follow this, but I have seen surveys, which may be done every year, I'm not sure, with some information about this.  and companies may put out a model that holds up well and another that doesn't.  So I wouldn't assume that if one model is good from a certain company, that they all are. 
 
I didn't look at the web site to see the price nor did I look at the specifications yet,  but what is everything and what is using it hard? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing
research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price
point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that
can handle that and won't have problems.


On 3/17/2018 3:36 PM, Don H wrote:
> I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
>> them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
>> think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS
>>
>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a
>> fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a
>> Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each
>> one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that
>> with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would
>> be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do
>> you all think?
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>>> How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Lanie Molinar
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
>>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
>>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
>>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a
>>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for.
>>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so
>>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several
>>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
>>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
>>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
>>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
>>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
>>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
>>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of
>>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look
>>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle
>>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
>>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
>>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
>>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For
>>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what
>>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> http://www.avg.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>







Re: My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8

 

i wish that microsoft does not stop using skype for xp users, while i
prefer web page based that i read in the list about skype 8.
its very great, if i can navigate in messages like web pages and not
just using nvda cursor to review the content of messages!

i heard that using skype for mobile, does not force its users to update!
but the people cant have audio call in groups, then can contact one
person in the time.
i have one screen reader and use only firefox and dont have any
problem in this regard!
the only advantage of chrome is supporting farsi pdf documents.

On 3/18/18, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
even version 2015.4 is also Good for me.
i only prefer 2016.3 and later because of american accent which i love
in espeak and selection of text which is changed in nvda 2016.3 and
later!
i dont believe updating just for updating!
i prefer one software to meet my need, even if thousand versions of
softwares is available!
i love this version and did not extra features and changes in newer
versions of nvda.

On 3/18/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Yes it seems that Microsoft are going further and not allowing skype
installed on xp to even connect after a certain date. There have been
mutterings about a big security hole in Skype, but I guess they are
hardly
likely to tell the hackers what it was, they are just going to stop
machines

with code that has it to no longer work.

I think this even covers Skype on older mobile operating systems for
phones

as well.
brian
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From: "Supanut Leepaisomboon" <supanut2000@outlook.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8


NVDA 2017.4 requires Windows 7 or later, and I do think Skype 8 also
requires Windows 7.





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By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8

 

even version 2015.4 is also Good for me.
i only prefer 2016.3 and later because of american accent which i love
in espeak and selection of text which is changed in nvda 2016.3 and
later!
i dont believe updating just for updating!
i prefer one software to meet my need, even if thousand versions of
softwares is available!
i love this version and did not extra features and changes in newer
versions of nvda.

On 3/18/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Yes it seems that Microsoft are going further and not allowing skype
installed on xp to even connect after a certain date. There have been
mutterings about a big security hole in Skype, but I guess they are hardly
likely to tell the hackers what it was, they are just going to stop machines

with code that has it to no longer work.

I think this even covers Skype on older mobile operating systems for phones

as well.
brian
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Supanut Leepaisomboon" <supanut2000@outlook.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8


NVDA 2017.4 requires Windows 7 or later, and I do think Skype 8 also
requires Windows 7.





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By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali