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Re: FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Joseph,

 

Will this presentation be recorded like they were in the past?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi everyone,

Please pass this onto others interested in this presentation, especially to Windows 10 users. Thanks, and hope to see you on March 26th.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:20 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi all,

 

Please pass this onto other forums and folks interested in this:

 

Dear Windows 10 users, screen reader developers, Microsoft staff, third-party app developers, Windows Insiders and others,

 

You’re cordially invited to participate in an audio talk by Joseph Lee on Windows 10, to be held on Accessible World Pat Price Tek Talk room on Monday, March 26, 2018 at 5 PM Pacific. In this talk, Joseph will talk about recent changes to Windows 10 ecosystem, demonstrate key features included in Version 1803 (Spring Creators Update), and showcase a mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10, all using screen readers.

 

Topics to be covered include:

 

  • Recent happenings on Windows 10, including introduction of S and Pro for Workstations, Microsoft Store, mixed reality.
  • Key features from Windows 10 Version 1709, including emoji entry, My People, Narrator changes and more.
  • Highlights from Version 1803, including Timeline, Focus Assist, and other changes.
  • A mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10 (you need to be there to listen to/see the demo).
  • Screen reader compatibility notices and future plans.

 

To join, go to accessibleworld.org, then go to Pat Price room. Then download Talking Communities client, and once it is installed, enter the room. Alternatively, the direct link to the Tek Talk room is:

http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2

 

Hope to see you on March 26th.

Sincerely,

Joseph Lee


Re: FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi,

5 PM Pacific.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi Joseph,

Please, at what time on March 26?

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 9:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi everyone,

Please pass this onto others interested in this presentation, especially to Windows 10 users. Thanks, and hope to see you on March 26th.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:20 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi all,

 

Please pass this onto other forums and folks interested in this:

 

Dear Windows 10 users, screen reader developers, Microsoft staff, third-party app developers, Windows Insiders and others,

 

You’re cordially invited to participate in an audio talk by Joseph Lee on Windows 10, to be held on Accessible World Pat Price Tek Talk room on Monday, March 26, 2018 at 5 PM Pacific. In this talk, Joseph will talk about recent changes to Windows 10 ecosystem, demonstrate key features included in Version 1803 (Spring Creators Update), and showcase a mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10, all using screen readers.

 

Topics to be covered include:

 

  • Recent happenings on Windows 10, including introduction of S and Pro for Workstations, Microsoft Store, mixed reality.
  • Key features from Windows 10 Version 1709, including emoji entry, My People, Narrator changes and more.
  • Highlights from Version 1803, including Timeline, Focus Assist, and other changes.
  • A mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10 (you need to be there to listen to/see the demo).
  • Screen reader compatibility notices and future plans.

 

To join, go to accessibleworld.org, then go to Pat Price room. Then download Talking Communities client, and once it is installed, enter the room. Alternatively, the direct link to the Tek Talk room is:

http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2

 

Hope to see you on March 26th.

Sincerely,

Joseph Lee


Re: FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

Pascal Lambert
 

Hi Joseph,

Please, at what time on March 26?

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 9:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi everyone,

Please pass this onto others interested in this presentation, especially to Windows 10 users. Thanks, and hope to see you on March 26th.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:20 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi all,

 

Please pass this onto other forums and folks interested in this:

 

Dear Windows 10 users, screen reader developers, Microsoft staff, third-party app developers, Windows Insiders and others,

 

You’re cordially invited to participate in an audio talk by Joseph Lee on Windows 10, to be held on Accessible World Pat Price Tek Talk room on Monday, March 26, 2018 at 5 PM Pacific. In this talk, Joseph will talk about recent changes to Windows 10 ecosystem, demonstrate key features included in Version 1803 (Spring Creators Update), and showcase a mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10, all using screen readers.

 

Topics to be covered include:

 

  • Recent happenings on Windows 10, including introduction of S and Pro for Workstations, Microsoft Store, mixed reality.
  • Key features from Windows 10 Version 1709, including emoji entry, My People, Narrator changes and more.
  • Highlights from Version 1803, including Timeline, Focus Assist, and other changes.
  • A mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10 (you need to be there to listen to/see the demo).
  • Screen reader compatibility notices and future plans.

 

To join, go to accessibleworld.org, then go to Pat Price room. Then download Talking Communities client, and once it is installed, enter the room. Alternatively, the direct link to the Tek Talk room is:

http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2

 

Hope to see you on March 26th.

Sincerely,

Joseph Lee


Re: Choosing a Laptop

 

On my dell Inspiron 3370, 13 inch, I can completely turn off the touch pad through settings in Windows. I can also, through the mobility center, change behavior of function keys and turn off back-lighting of my keyboard.





On 3/19/2018 8:36 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hello

As a dell customer I don't understand this.

I own an inspiron 13 and under mobility center in windows 10, there is an option to disable the touch pad.

When this is disabled, it is always disabled. Similarly, the function keys being f keys is always enabled. Not this silly going into bios and having to fiddle to make the function keys act normal again.


With that being said, have fun trying to do this on most machines anyway because either the driver will reinstall itself or it will turn itself back on.



On 19-Mar-2018 5:35 PM, Howard wrote:
If you are an N V D A user, don't buy a Dell!

My blind client bought a new Dell last year. It wasn't a major effort to get N V D A installed, but then I found that every time you rebooted, the touchpad turned itself back on. I called Dell support, and they told me there was no way to turn it off permanently. Since it was "obvious" that nobody really wanted to turn it off permanently, they designed it to always turn on when rebooted.

That is a design defect that can only come from a company who holds its customers in contempt.

I opened the case, and unplugged the touchpad. If you are blind, that is probably something you would have to have a sighted person do for you.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Wow, that's a great price for a lap top. A friend of mine got one from Dell and he's still paying on it since 2009.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps, spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech recognition. here is the link. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch




--

Howard Lee Harkness
918-416-1420


FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi everyone,

Please pass this onto others interested in this presentation, especially to Windows 10 users. Thanks, and hope to see you on March 26th.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:20 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi all,

 

Please pass this onto other forums and folks interested in this:

 

Dear Windows 10 users, screen reader developers, Microsoft staff, third-party app developers, Windows Insiders and others,

 

You’re cordially invited to participate in an audio talk by Joseph Lee on Windows 10, to be held on Accessible World Pat Price Tek Talk room on Monday, March 26, 2018 at 5 PM Pacific. In this talk, Joseph will talk about recent changes to Windows 10 ecosystem, demonstrate key features included in Version 1803 (Spring Creators Update), and showcase a mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10, all using screen readers.

 

Topics to be covered include:

 

  • Recent happenings on Windows 10, including introduction of S and Pro for Workstations, Microsoft Store, mixed reality.
  • Key features from Windows 10 Version 1709, including emoji entry, My People, Narrator changes and more.
  • Highlights from Version 1803, including Timeline, Focus Assist, and other changes.
  • A mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10 (you need to be there to listen to/see the demo).
  • Screen reader compatibility notices and future plans.

 

To join, go to accessibleworld.org, then go to Pat Price room. Then download Talking Communities client, and once it is installed, enter the room. Alternatively, the direct link to the Tek Talk room is:

http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2

 

Hope to see you on March 26th.

Sincerely,

Joseph Lee


Re: Choosing a Laptop

Tyler Wood
 

Hello

As a dell customer I don't understand this.

I own an inspiron 13 and under mobility center in windows 10, there is an option to disable the touch pad.

When this is disabled, it is always disabled. Similarly, the function keys being f keys is always enabled. Not this silly going into bios and having to fiddle to make the function keys act normal again.


With that being said, have fun trying to do this on most machines anyway because either the driver will reinstall itself or it will turn itself back on.



On 19-Mar-2018 5:35 PM, Howard wrote:
If you are an N V D A user, don't buy a Dell!

My blind client bought a new Dell last year. It wasn't a major effort to get N V D A installed, but then I found that every time you rebooted, the touchpad turned itself back on. I called Dell support, and they told me there was no way to turn it off permanently. Since it was "obvious" that nobody really wanted to turn it off permanently, they designed it to always turn on when rebooted.

That is a design defect that can only come from a company who holds its customers in contempt.

I opened the case, and unplugged the touchpad. If you are blind, that is probably something you would have to have a sighted person do for you.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Wow, that's a great price for a lap top. A friend of mine got one from Dell and he's still paying on it since 2009.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps, spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech recognition. here is the link. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch




--

Howard Lee Harkness
918-416-1420


Re: Choosing a Laptop

Gene
 

I suggest you check prices.  Where did you get this impression or information.  Any computer company may have a wide range of products at a wide range of prices  And that's what Dell does.  it offers computers for all sorts of different prices and capabilities.  I don't rule out any company that has a good reputation.  I decide on comparing products or on whether a certain product has a good reputation and is available at a good price.  And different companies may have some models that are well thought of and some that are not.  it sounds as though you know one person who, for some reason, bought an expensive Dell.  That is no basis for knowing what a company offers and its reputation and if a certain model has a good reputation or not. 
 
I'm not advocating that people buy or not buy Dells.  I'm simply saying that generalizing from one particular is, in a lot of cases, a serious mistake.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

I'll never buy a Dell. They're way too expensive anyway. I don't want something I have to keep paying on since  2009.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Howard
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 3:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

If you are an N V D A user, don't buy a Dell!

My blind client bought a new Dell last year. It wasn't a major effort to get N V D A installed, but then I found that every time you rebooted, the touchpad turned itself back on. I called Dell support, and they told me there was no way to turn it off permanently. Since it was "obvious" that nobody really wanted to turn it off permanently, they designed it to always turn on when rebooted.

That is a design defect that can only come from a company who holds its customers in contempt.

I opened the case, and unplugged the touchpad. If you are blind, that is probably something you would have to have a sighted person do for you.

 

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Wow, that's a great price for a lap top. A friend of mine got one from Dell and he's still paying on it since 2009.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps, spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech recognition. here is the link. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch




--

 

Howard Lee Harkness
918-416-1420


Re: Choosing a Laptop

ely.r@...
 

Here! Hear! Jean! I once had a school purchase a laptop with no context key. I Kept thinking it was me not understanding where it was or what key combination would bring it up. Then I started reading reviews. Many were programmers who I learned depend a great deal on the context key. Who knows why that design decision was made, but it had nothing to do with my students sight. The school could not believe that I wanted the laptop returned just cause it was missing one little key.

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

Can it be turned off by just pressing the numpad?  If so, then saying this feature is one that comes from a company that holds its users in contempt is a real overstatement.  How much trouble is it to press the numlock after rebooting?  If the numpad can't be turned off, that's far more serious.  It has nothing to do with contempt, however.  Manufacturers are always looking for a competitive edge.  Products may be degraded in some way for convenience, or  from a blind users perspective for convenience of the general user.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Howard

Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 5:35 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

If you are an N V D A user, don't buy a Dell!

My blind client bought a new Dell last year. It wasn't a major effort to get N V D A installed, but then I found that every time you rebooted, the touchpad turned itself back on. I called Dell support, and they told me there was no way to turn it off permanently. Since it was "obvious" that nobody really wanted to turn it off permanently, they designed it to always turn on when rebooted.

That is a design defect that can only come from a company who holds its customers in contempt.

I opened the case, and unplugged the touchpad. If you are blind, that is probably something you would have to have a sighted person do for you.

 

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Wow, that's a great price for a lap top. A friend of mine got one from Dell and he's still paying on it since 2009.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps, spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech recognition. here is the link. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch




--

 

Howard Lee Harkness
918-416-1420


Re: Choosing a Laptop

Gene
 

I misunderstood the message.  I thought the numpad was being discussed.  I agree that that is a design flaw and that the option should be available.  but contempt really isn't a good description.
 
In addition, it's easy enough to stop the problem.  You can just put something like a piece of cardboard over the touchpad.  I don't know if a piece of paper is thick enough. 
 
If a Dell had some feature or advantage I thought mattered enough to be meaningful, I wouldn't deprive myself of it just because of this minor inconvenience.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

Most touchpads have a setting where if a physical mouse is plugged in
the touch pad is disabled.  I have a wireless mouse plugged into one of
my USB ports and the touch pad stays off.

On 3/19/2018 5:38 PM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
> I wonder if it could be turned off in the BIOS.
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
> *Howard
> *Sent:* Monday, March 19, 2018 5:36 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>
> If you are an N V D A user, don't buy a Dell!
>
> My blind client bought a new Dell last year. It wasn't a major effort to
> get N V D A installed, but then I found that every time you rebooted,
> the touchpad turned itself back on. I called Dell support, and they told
> me there was no way to turn it off permanently. Since it was "obvious"
> that nobody really wanted to turn it off permanently, they designed it
> to always turn on when rebooted.
>
> That is a design defect that can only come from a company who holds its
> customers in contempt.
>
> I opened the case, and unplugged the touchpad. If you are blind, that is
> probably something you would have to have a sighted person do for you.
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria
> <knitqueen2007@... <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>> wrote:
>
> Wow, that's a great price for a lap top. A friend of mine got one from
> Dell and he's still paying on it since 2009.
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>] *On Behalf Of
> *Josh Kennedy
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:12 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>
> I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me
> $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd
> burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps,
> spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech
> recognition. here is the link.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Howard Lee Harkness
> 918-416-1420
>
> http://howardleeharkness.com
>
>




Re: Choosing a Laptop

Gene
 

Can it be turned off by just pressing the numpad?  If so, then saying this feature is one that comes from a company that holds its users in contempt is a real overstatement.  How much trouble is it to press the numlock after rebooting?  If the numpad can't be turned off, that's far more serious.  It has nothing to do with contempt, however.  Manufacturers are always looking for a competitive edge.  Products may be degraded in some way for convenience, or  from a blind users perspective for convenience of the general user.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Howard
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

If you are an N V D A user, don't buy a Dell!

My blind client bought a new Dell last year. It wasn't a major effort to get N V D A installed, but then I found that every time you rebooted, the touchpad turned itself back on. I called Dell support, and they told me there was no way to turn it off permanently. Since it was "obvious" that nobody really wanted to turn it off permanently, they designed it to always turn on when rebooted.

That is a design defect that can only come from a company who holds its customers in contempt.

I opened the case, and unplugged the touchpad. If you are blind, that is probably something you would have to have a sighted person do for you.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Wow, that's a great price for a lap top. A friend of mine got one from Dell and he's still paying on it since 2009.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps, spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech recognition. here is the link. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch




--

Howard Lee Harkness
918-416-1420


Re: Choosing a Laptop

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I'll never buy a Dell. They're way too expensive anyway. I don't want something I have to keep paying on since  2009.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Howard
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 3:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

If you are an N V D A user, don't buy a Dell!

My blind client bought a new Dell last year. It wasn't a major effort to get N V D A installed, but then I found that every time you rebooted, the touchpad turned itself back on. I called Dell support, and they told me there was no way to turn it off permanently. Since it was "obvious" that nobody really wanted to turn it off permanently, they designed it to always turn on when rebooted.

That is a design defect that can only come from a company who holds its customers in contempt.

I opened the case, and unplugged the touchpad. If you are blind, that is probably something you would have to have a sighted person do for you.

 

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Wow, that's a great price for a lap top. A friend of mine got one from Dell and he's still paying on it since 2009.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps, spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech recognition. here is the link. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch




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Howard Lee Harkness
918-416-1420


Re: Choosing a Laptop

Don H
 

Most touchpads have a setting where if a physical mouse is plugged in the touch pad is disabled. I have a wireless mouse plugged into one of my USB ports and the touch pad stays off.

On 3/19/2018 5:38 PM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
I wonder if it could be turned off in the BIOS.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Howard
*Sent:* Monday, March 19, 2018 5:36 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
If you are an N V D A user, don't buy a Dell!
My blind client bought a new Dell last year. It wasn't a major effort to get N V D A installed, but then I found that every time you rebooted, the touchpad turned itself back on. I called Dell support, and they told me there was no way to turn it off permanently. Since it was "obvious" that nobody really wanted to turn it off permanently, they designed it to always turn on when rebooted.
That is a design defect that can only come from a company who holds its customers in contempt.
I opened the case, and unplugged the touchpad. If you are blind, that is probably something you would have to have a sighted person do for you.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@... <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>> wrote:
Wow, that's a great price for a lap top. A friend of mine got one from Dell and he's still paying on it since 2009.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Kennedy
*Sent:* Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:12 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps, spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech recognition. here is the link.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch --
Howard Lee Harkness
918-416-1420
http://howardleeharkness.com


Re: Choosing a Laptop

Ervin, Glenn
 

I wonder if it could be turned off in the BIOS.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Howard
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 5:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

If you are an N V D A user, don't buy a Dell!

My blind client bought a new Dell last year. It wasn't a major effort to get N V D A installed, but then I found that every time you rebooted, the touchpad turned itself back on. I called Dell support, and they told me there was no way to turn it off permanently. Since it was "obvious" that nobody really wanted to turn it off permanently, they designed it to always turn on when rebooted.

That is a design defect that can only come from a company who holds its customers in contempt.

I opened the case, and unplugged the touchpad. If you are blind, that is probably something you would have to have a sighted person do for you.

 

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Wow, that's a great price for a lap top. A friend of mine got one from Dell and he's still paying on it since 2009.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps, spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech recognition. here is the link. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch




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Howard Lee Harkness
918-416-1420


Re: Choosing a Laptop

Howard <howard.lee.harkness@...>
 

If you are an N V D A user, don't buy a Dell!

My blind client bought a new Dell last year. It wasn't a major effort to get N V D A installed, but then I found that every time you rebooted, the touchpad turned itself back on. I called Dell support, and they told me there was no way to turn it off permanently. Since it was "obvious" that nobody really wanted to turn it off permanently, they designed it to always turn on when rebooted.

That is a design defect that can only come from a company who holds its customers in contempt.

I opened the case, and unplugged the touchpad. If you are blind, that is probably something you would have to have a sighted person do for you.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Wow, that's a great price for a lap top. A friend of mine got one from Dell and he's still paying on it since 2009.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps, spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech recognition. here is the link. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch




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Howard Lee Harkness
918-416-1420


Re: How to get in touch with DictationBridge

Gene
 

Are you copying these links by hand?  They are not full links.  We can't test them and be confident our results are valid.  Some people would want to see if the links are broken or if there is a problem you have that causes them not to work.  Please include full links.  Even if you get page not found messages, see if the links are in the address bar.  Copy them to the clipboard and paste them into the message.  to find a contact link, Go to the home page.  Go to the top of the page.  Search for the word contact.  Repeat the search if necessary.  Almost all contact links, for example, contact us, have the word contact in them.  See if you find one.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 4:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] How to get in touch with DictationBridge

Does anyone know how to get in touch with DictationBridge?  The following links are broken"

dictation-discuss@...

dictation-discuss-subscribe@...

Teh contact form link at 3mousetech.com is also broken.


Re: Dictation Bridge does not appear under Tools

Gene
 

You don't need a clean installation file.  What antivirus and antimalware programs are you using?  Some programs won't install unless the protection is turned off.  or, in the case of a false positive, you need to exclude the program from being scanned by the program that is causing the problem.  This is an important thing to know how to do and everyone who uses antimalware programs needs to know how to stop protection so they can install programs that tell the user this needs to be done, and how to stop a program from being checked.  I had to turn off protection to install a certain scannewr and the scanner instructions said to do so.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dictation Bridge does not appear under Tools

Is this the cause of my problem: 

When I reboot NVDA to complete installing Dictation Bridge, I get the following security alert:  "C: . . . \dictationbridgemaster 32.dll" containing the pattern of 'ADWARE/ELEX.qmfva' was blocked.  We moved the file to quarantine.

I downloaded a second copy of the DB addon file and go the same result.  Where can I download a clean installation file?



Re: My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi again


Just found the other commands for desk top skype and the metro version for windows 10.  the link to this page is https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12025/what-are-hotkeys-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-skype

But these keys will not work on the web version or at least i have not tried it I guess if they did work they would have been documented.



Gene nz



On 3/19/2018 3:05 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
If you could give us the basic commands, that would be greatly appreciated!  Seems as though these are a military secret or something.  Haven't heard of anyone actually giving them but just hinting that they are different from earlier Skype.

Thanks.

Roger









On 3/18/2018 2:51 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi


for the web version there are only 3 commands and they are to accept a call decline a call and accept a video.


It seems now also it may not be in beta no more.


I just looked and it looks like I started writing a tutorial but did not finish it.

I only got as far as where to go unless it did not save my previous info for the tutorial.

I got some time to waste so will see what comes together.

Gene nz

On 3/19/2018 7:16 AM, John Isige wrote:
Pretty sure you can hit escape to close out of chats. Here's the list of keyboard shortcuts.


https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12025/what-are-hotkeys-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-skype


On 3/18/2018 5:11, Rob Hudson wrote:
Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...> wrote:
I still couldn't figure out how to close out of a particular chat window though.

Do individual chats open in separate tabs like thunderbird email messages?








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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.



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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: My initial experience using NVDA with Skype 8

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Are Military secrets meant to be keeped for a minimum of 25 years before they are released? some times never.


The following page may answer some of your questions under the accessibility section. also to do with mike etc.


the link to this page is https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA34515/finding-your-way-around-skype-for-web-and-outlook-com

You can use single letter navigation keys to jump around and at times also you need to change modes to see the extra sections. for example browse mode if still in focus mode.


there is also a frequently asked questions link after you have signed in to skype.


The chat section seems to be separate to where you can either call them or video them.


Later on maybe this week I will post a written tutorial to my website on using it and or record a audio version  as you go through it so people get what it is like.


I just have not chatted to another person online using it yet.

Only the test station.


I will have to check to see why the front mike was crap as well with the audio and check it with my other wireless one on the back.



I am pretty sure it is useable now but just want to confirm otherwise the tutorial will be put on the shelf until it is up and running correctly.


Gene nz

   


On 3/19/2018 3:05 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
If you could give us the basic commands, that would be greatly appreciated!  Seems as though these are a military secret or something.  Haven't heard of anyone actually giving them but just hinting that they are different from earlier Skype.

Thanks.

Roger









On 3/18/2018 2:51 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi


for the web version there are only 3 commands and they are to accept a call decline a call and accept a video.


It seems now also it may not be in beta no more.


I just looked and it looks like I started writing a tutorial but did not finish it.

I only got as far as where to go unless it did not save my previous info for the tutorial.

I got some time to waste so will see what comes together.

Gene nz

On 3/19/2018 7:16 AM, John Isige wrote:
Pretty sure you can hit escape to close out of chats. Here's the list of keyboard shortcuts.


https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12025/what-are-hotkeys-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-skype


On 3/18/2018 5:11, Rob Hudson wrote:
Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...> wrote:
I still couldn't figure out how to close out of a particular chat window though.

Do individual chats open in separate tabs like thunderbird email messages?








--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.



--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Dictation Bridge does not appear under Tools

 

Stupid windows defender is targeting the blind again.

You will need to clear all the history of files, then turn off windows defender, then install the addon, then exclude the dll.

Unless ofcause it is actually true.

On 20/03/2018 10:13 a.m., Mel Thatcher via Groups.Io wrote:
Is this the cause of my problem:

When I reboot NVDA to complete installing Dictation Bridge, I get the following security alert:  "C: . . . \dictationbridgemaster 32.dll" containing the pattern of 'ADWARE/ELEX.qmfva' was blocked.  We moved the file to quarantine.

I downloaded a second copy of the DB addon file and go the same result.  Where can I download a clean installation file?


Re: How to get in touch with DictationBridge

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Go to:

www.dictationbridge.com

 

Lino Morales

 

From: Mel Thatcher via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 5:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] How to get in touch with DictationBridge

 

Does anyone know how to get in touch with DictationBridge?  The following links are broken"

dictation-discuss@...

dictation-discuss-subscribe@...

Teh contact form link at 3mousetech.com is also broken.