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Re: Feature request: List of clickable elements in Elements List dialog and single letter navigation for clickable elements

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Victor,
Thanks for the ticket link. I have added my comment on there.
Thanks.

On 5/6/16, 蔡宗豪 Victor Cai <surfer0627@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Please see 124 for quick navigation key request issue:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/124

Thanks.

Regards

Victor


2016-05-06 12:00 GMT+08:00, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@gmail.com>:
Dear all,
As the subject line quite clearly suggests, my request is to add a
feature in the NVDA Elements List dialog which includes the listing of
clickable elements on the page too. Also, a particular key (which may
remain unassigned by default, if needed) should be able to navigate to
the clickable elements.
Before filing a ticket for the same, I was in doubt if this proposal
had already been brought up in the past or if it is worthy of a new
ticket being filed.
Thanks.

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--
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Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
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Re: Fw: Action required for users of Windows Live Mail 2012

 

Well its clear ms are starting to have everything use its apps or not at all.
When I finally do upgrade, I will simply not be using apps because I am not sure which ones will hijack my account to be a ms one.
I don't use outlook.com anyway so thats all fine.
Cortana uses edge which is not fully up there and groove which isn't up there either.
Bing is basically all over ms pages, I use google on everything.

On 6/05/2016 4:05 p.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: "Like the old saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Microsoft and Google both seem to fail to appreciate the timeless nature of this adage. They also tend to break the KISS principle of design on a very frequent basis, too.
Brian
--
Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.
~ Henry Rosovsky


Re: Fw: Action required for users of Windows Live Mail 2012

 

Well its no secret that windows live mail is being phased out to be replaced with the mail app, its been no secret for months now.

On 6/05/2016 1:07 p.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
Even I'll say that this is Microsoft trying to force people into a very narrow set of mail access options for e-mail services they own. I wonder what's going to happen to those with any of the Microsoft e-mail accounts (outlook.com, live.com, msn.com, hotmail.com) that are using other e-mail clients. WLM 2012 supports POP and IMAP and those two access methods are what every other e-mail client I know of, including the Win8 and Win10 mail apps, use.

This is a peculiar and stupid move on Microsoft's part.
Brian
--
Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.
~ Henry Rosovsky


Re: Fw: Action required for users of Windows Live Mail 2012

Helga Schreiber
 

Hi, this is helga! What od you mean? I use Gmail so you mean it will not work man! Are you serious! NO way! And i use windows live mail 2012. Now what? What email client will i use guys? I will really appreciate any suggestions! Thansk and God bless!

Helga Schreiber 

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
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"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1    

On May 5, 2016, at 11:16 PM, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

And, for those who are still believing that the email I received is a phishing email, take a look at this, https://blogs.office.com/2016/05/05/using-windows-live-mail-2012-with-outlook-com-time-to-update-your-email-application/

This is from official Microsoft Office blog, so it's obvious that this is a serious manor and that it is going to happen for real.

Edit: Even Google's Gmail no longer work with WLM2012 unless if you turn off a security setting, which is not a wise thing to do.


Re: Feature request: List of clickable elements in Elements List dialog and single letter navigation for clickable elements

蔡宗豪 Victor Cai
 

Hi,
Please see 124 for quick navigation key request issue:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/124

Thanks.

Regards

Victor


2016-05-06 12:00 GMT+08:00, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@gmail.com>:

Dear all,
As the subject line quite clearly suggests, my request is to add a
feature in the NVDA Elements List dialog which includes the listing of
clickable elements on the page too. Also, a particular key (which may
remain unassigned by default, if needed) should be able to navigate to
the clickable elements.
Before filing a ticket for the same, I was in doubt if this proposal
had already been brought up in the past or if it is worthy of a new
ticket being filed.
Thanks.

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09




Re: [TechTalk] Alert Windows Live Mail users, scam email warning

David Moore
 

Hi Helga
Could you change your hotmail account to another gmail or yahoo account? Emails from Yahoo.com could be imported into Windows Live Mail.
 
 

Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] [TechTalk] Alert Windows Live Mail users, scam email warning
 
Hi all! This is Helga! How are you all? I use Windows live mail 2012 as my eamil client, so Ishould I change my client? I'm just owndering! On my windows live mail I have my gmail account and hotmail account! So that means I should change to outlook 2016 or what other client is available? I will update my windows 8.1 to windows 10 soon! I look forward for any suggestions! Thanks and God bless!

Helga Schreiber 
 
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950
Skype: helga.schreiber26
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
 
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1   

On May 6, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:

Hi Brian,

 

There are changes, but this address:

Outlo‍ok‍.‍com 

 

is bogus.

 


On 5/5/2016 11:23 PM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
It's not a spam/phishing email, take a look at this https://blogs.office.com/2016/05/05/using-windows-live-mail-2012-with-outlook-com-time-to-update-your-email-application/

This is real, and...the change will happen, no matter what. To be honest I felt kind of surprised by this, having used WLM for so long.


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Re: [TechTalk] Alert Windows Live Mail users, scam email warning

 

Helga,

          That second sentence should have read, "keep your hotmail account and your gmail account and have them in a client . . ."  It's getting late.

Brian
-- 

Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. 
   ~ Henry Rosovsky

    



Re: [TechTalk] Alert Windows Live Mail users, scam email warning

 

Helga,

          This little caper involves access via WLM 2012 only to those e-mail accounts ending in @outlook.com, @live.com, @msn.com, and @hotmail.com.

          If you wish to keep your hotmail account and have it in a client that can also access e-mail from any of the above noted e-mail addresses then you will have to transition to one of the e-mail clients noted on this support.microsoft.com webpage.


Brian
-- 

Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. 
   ~ Henry Rosovsky

    



Re: [TechTalk] Alert Windows Live Mail users, scam email warning

 

The only alternative email client I can think of that will be able to support the new Outlook.com is...Thunderbird. Even though if it suddenly won't work after June, I have confidence that Mozilla will fix it in a new version pretty quickly.


Re: [TechTalk] Alert Windows Live Mail users, scam email warning

Helga Schreiber
 

Hi all! This is Helga! How are you all? I use Windows live mail 2012 as my eamil client, so Ishould I change my client? I'm just owndering! On my windows live mail I have my gmail account and hotmail account! So that means I should change to outlook 2016 or what other client is available? I will update my windows 8.1 to windows 10 soon! I look forward for any suggestions! Thanks and God bless!

Helga Schreiber 

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1    

On May 6, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:

Hi Brian,


There are changes, but this address:

Outlo‍ok‍.‍com 


is bogus.



On 5/5/2016 11:23 PM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
It's not a spam/phishing email, take a look at this https://blogs.office.com/2016/05/05/using-windows-live-mail-2012-with-outlook-com-time-to-update-your-email-application/

This is real, and...the change will happen, no matter what. To be honest I felt kind of surprised by this, having used WLM for so long.


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: [TechTalk] Alert Windows Live Mail users, scam email warning

 

Ron,

          "Outlook.com" and "outlook.com" both get used, regularly, in Microsoft materials.  That includes on the very official Microsoft support page announcing the change to which I supplied the link (and just did again).

Brian
-- 

Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. 
   ~ Henry Rosovsky

    



Re: [TechTalk] Alert Windows Live Mail users, scam email warning

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Brian,


There are changes, but this address:

Outlo‍ok‍.‍com 


is bogus.



On 5/5/2016 11:23 PM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
It's not a spam/phishing email, take a look at this https://blogs.office.com/2016/05/05/using-windows-live-mail-2012-with-outlook-com-time-to-update-your-email-application/

This is real, and...the change will happen, no matter what. To be honest I felt kind of surprised by this, having used WLM for so long.


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: [TechTalk] Alert Windows Live Mail users, scam email warning

 

Ron Canazzi wrote:  "Well, then Microsoft phone support is stupid."

This is not news, nor is that observation in any way limited to Microsoft.

Brian
-- 

Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. 
   ~ Henry Rosovsky

    



Re: Fw: Action required for users of Windows Live Mail 2012

 

Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: "Like the old saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Microsoft and Google both seem to fail to appreciate the timeless nature of this adage.  They also tend to break the KISS principle of design on a very frequent basis, too.

Brian
-- 

Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. 
   ~ Henry Rosovsky

    



Re: Fw: Action required for users of Windows Live Mail 2012

 

Supanut,

         Well, I've never found two-step verification all that necessary for my e-mail.  A strong password is more than enough.  I have had the "allow less secure clients" (or whatever the phrasing is on Gmail) setting selected for years now without ill effect.  It's one of the few e-mail server setups that defaults two-step verification on.

Brian
-- 

Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. 
   ~ Henry Rosovsky

    



Re: [TechTalk] Alert Windows Live Mail users, scam email warning

Ron Canazzi
 

Well, then Microsoft phone support is stupid.



On 5/5/2016 11:57 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Ron,

          It is not false.  It is posted on Microsoft's own website and is being heavily discussed in the tech press.

          It doesn't get more official than an announcement on support.office.com.

          I also think this is going to backfire on Microsoft and they'll lose a lot of e-mail users.
Brian
-- 
Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. 
   ~ Henry Rosovsky


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Feature request: List of clickable elements in Elements List dialog and single letter navigation for clickable elements

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,
As the subject line quite clearly suggests, my request is to add a
feature in the NVDA Elements List dialog which includes the listing of
clickable elements on the page too. Also, a particular key (which may
remain unassigned by default, if needed) should be able to navigate to
the clickable elements.
Before filing a ticket for the same, I was in doubt if this proposal
had already been brought up in the past or if it is worthy of a new
ticket being filed.
Thanks.

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: Microsoft Outlook Scam!

 

Ron,

        Please stop saying this is a scam.  It has been officially announced on Microsoft's own support sites.  See this one on support.office.com

Brian
-- 

Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. 
   ~ Henry Rosovsky

    



Re: [TechTalk] Alert Windows Live Mail users, scam email warning

 

Ron,

          It is not false.  It is posted on Microsoft's own website and is being heavily discussed in the tech press.

          It doesn't get more official than an announcement on support.office.com.

          I also think this is going to backfire on Microsoft and they'll lose a lot of e-mail users.

Brian
-- 

Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. 
   ~ Henry Rosovsky

    



Microsoft Outlook Scam!

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


As concerns the Outlook.com issue: I just talked to the disability line at Microsoft (1-800-936-5900) and this Outlook business is definitely a scam.  There is already a case number 133-830-4258 open and being investigated.


If you get any further e-mails or web page references, forward such e-mails to the 2 following addresses:

abuse@...

abuse@...


Hopefully, this will resolve the controversy!



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"