Re: Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer
Hi what does it have for e-mail programs?
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On 3/27/2018 2:58 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: Hi,
Open office has writer (for word processing), impress (like PowerPoint), draw (for pictures), kelp (like excel), formula ((for doing math equations) and database. Open office is free and open source. I don't use jaws so I don't know how well it works with it.
Hope this helps somewhat.
Rosemarie
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Casey Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:06 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer
hi what all comes with open office and is it all free?
Also how well does it work with Jaws 2018 as well?
On 3/27/2018 9:32 AM, zahra wrote:
hi. thanks so much for list of shortcuts. for users who want to download libreoffice: www.libreoffice.org/download God bless you all!
On 3/27/18, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
very nice where could i downlode lebrea office?
----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Ballou To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:12 AM Subject: [nvda] Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer
Hi,
Here are the keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer.
Tony
Keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer
Keyboard shortcut
Command
Control-a
Select All
Control-b
Bold text
Control-c
Copies highlighted Text to the clipboard
Control-x
Cuts highlighted text to the clipboard
Control-v
Pastes the highlighted text from the clipboard to the location that you specify
keep in mind that when the text is copied, it appears in both the original and the specified location.
When the text is cut it appears in the specified location only
Control-Shift-v
Paste Special
pastes formatting, and formatted text from the clipboard
control-alt-shift-V
Pastes unformatted text from the clipboard
control-E
Centers text
Control f
Find text
Control -g
Go To
control-H
Find and replace Text
Control-I
Italicize text
Control-J
Justify Text
Control-l
Left align text
Control-r
Right align text
Control-n
Creates a new blank Document
Control-o
Brings up the open file dialog box
Control-P
Brings up the Print Dialog box
Control-S
Saves the current open Document. If it is a new one, the save as dialog box will open where you can give it a specific file name, save it with a specific file format extension such as .txt, .rtf, .doc, .docx, or in the case of programs like open and libre office, .odt; and a specific location such as a folder on your hard drive, or external storage device.
Control u
Underlines text
Control-y
redoes your last action
control-z
undoes your last action
Control-Shift-P
inserts superscript
Control-shift-b
Inserts subscript
Control-Enter
Page break
Navigation Keyboard shortcuts
left arrow
moves one character to the left
shift-left arrow
highlights the character to the left
Right arrow
moves one character to the right
Shift-right arrow
Highlights the character to the right
up arrow
moves up one line
Shift-up arrow
Highlights text in an upward direction
Down arrow
Moves down one line
Shift-down arrow
Highlights text in a downward direction
Control -left arrow
moves one word to the left
control-right arrow
moves one word to the right
Control-shift-left arrow
Highlights the word to the left
Control-Shift-right arrow
Highlights the word to the right
Control-up arrow
moves to the beginning of the previous paragraph
Control-shift-up arrow
highlights the text to the beginning of the paragraph
Control-Down arrow
Moves to the end of the paragraph
Control-Shift-down arrow
Highlights the text to the end of the paragraph
Home
Moves to the beginning of the line
shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the line
End
Moves to the end of the line
Shift-end
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the line
Control-home
moves the cursor to the beginning of the document
Control-End
Moves the cursor to the end of the document
Control-shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the document
Control-shift-end
highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the document
Page up
moves the cursor up one screen
(this is approximately 24 lines)
Page down
Moves the cursor down one screen
(This is approximately 24 lines)
Shift-page up
Highlights the text up by one screen
Shift-page down
Highlights the text down by one screen
Control-Backspace
Ce
Deletes the text to the beginning of the word
Control-delete
Deletes the text to the end of the word
Control-shift-backspace
deletes the text to the beginning of the sentence
Control-shift Delete
Deletes the text to the end of a sentence
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Casey
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
I'm just trying Open office for the first time. So far only taken the word processor, Writer, for a spin. It seems very accessible, though I have heard it will not tell you as much information about graphics if you use a screen-reader. It seems to work well with both nVDA and JAWS 18 (I don't have JAWS 2018, but I imagine the results will be much the same). I think people will like the old-style menus, if you're one of those who hates Microsoft's ribbons. I don't hate them, but I confess the old menus seem less clunky from my perspective.
Now, anyone got any opinions on Open Office VS Libre Office? They seem quite similar suites.
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: March 27, 2018 3:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer Hi, Open office has writer (for word processing), impress (like PowerPoint), draw (for pictures), kelp (like excel), formula ((for doing math equations) and database. Open office is free and open source. I don't use jaws so I don't know how well it works with it. Hope this helps somewhat. Rosemarie -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Casey Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:06 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer hi what all comes with open office and is it all free? Also how well does it work with Jaws 2018 as well? On 3/27/2018 9:32 AM, zahra wrote: hi. thanks so much for list of shortcuts. for users who want to download libreoffice: www.libreoffice.org/download God bless you all!
On 3/27/18, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
very nice where could i downlode lebrea office?
----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Ballou To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:12 AM Subject: [nvda] Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer
Hi,
Here are the keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer.
Tony
Keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer
Keyboard shortcut
Command
Control-a
Select All
Control-b
Bold text
Control-c
Copies highlighted Text to the clipboard
Control-x
Cuts highlighted text to the clipboard
Control-v
Pastes the highlighted text from the clipboard to the location that you specify
keep in mind that when the text is copied, it appears in both the original and the specified location.
When the text is cut it appears in the specified location only
Control-Shift-v
Paste Special
pastes formatting, and formatted text from the clipboard
control-alt-shift-V
Pastes unformatted text from the clipboard
control-E
Centers text
Control f
Find text
Control -g
Go To
control-H
Find and replace Text
Control-I
Italicize text
Control-J
Justify Text
Control-l
Left align text
Control-r
Right align text
Control-n
Creates a new blank Document
Control-o
Brings up the open file dialog box
Control-P
Brings up the Print Dialog box
Control-S
Saves the current open Document. If it is a new one, the save as dialog box will open where you can give it a specific file name, save it with a specific file format extension such as .txt, .rtf, .doc, .docx, or in the case of programs like open and libre office, .odt; and a specific location such as a folder on your hard drive, or external storage device.
Control u
Underlines text
Control-y
redoes your last action
control-z
undoes your last action
Control-Shift-P
inserts superscript
Control-shift-b
Inserts subscript
Control-Enter
Page break
Navigation Keyboard shortcuts
left arrow
moves one character to the left
shift-left arrow
highlights the character to the left
Right arrow
moves one character to the right
Shift-right arrow
Highlights the character to the right
up arrow
moves up one line
Shift-up arrow
Highlights text in an upward direction
Down arrow
Moves down one line
Shift-down arrow
Highlights text in a downward direction
Control -left arrow
moves one word to the left
control-right arrow
moves one word to the right
Control-shift-left arrow
Highlights the word to the left
Control-Shift-right arrow
Highlights the word to the right
Control-up arrow
moves to the beginning of the previous paragraph
Control-shift-up arrow
highlights the text to the beginning of the paragraph
Control-Down arrow
Moves to the end of the paragraph
Control-Shift-down arrow
Highlights the text to the end of the paragraph
Home
Moves to the beginning of the line
shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the line
End
Moves to the end of the line
Shift-end
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the line
Control-home
moves the cursor to the beginning of the document
Control-End
Moves the cursor to the end of the document
Control-shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the document
Control-shift-end
highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the document
Page up
moves the cursor up one screen
(this is approximately 24 lines)
Page down
Moves the cursor down one screen
(This is approximately 24 lines)
Shift-page up
Highlights the text up by one screen
Shift-page down
Highlights the text down by one screen
Control-Backspace
Ce
Deletes the text to the beginning of the word
Control-delete
Deletes the text to the end of the word
Control-shift-backspace
deletes the text to the beginning of the sentence
Control-shift Delete
Deletes the text to the end of a sentence
-- Casey
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Re: microsoft turn round on skype
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi
Or we could also learn to use the app version if using windows 10 or the web version which seems pretty accessible so far. As long as you install the plug in for the web browser.
Gene nz
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On 3/28/2018 7:17 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well the issue aparently was in its installer.
So ms seems to have fixed it and lets hope classic skype continues for some time yet even if it never changes, even if its never updated I can take that.
In fact unless its needed we as blind people really don't need skype updated anyway for what we use it for.
On 28/03/2018 3:18 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a feeling a lot of people got into contact with Microsoft who used Skype 7 as an accessible program for blind who were employed, and think of the scandal if the news hit the streets that blind people put out of Work by crazy Microsoft
decision?
Not good on the brownie points and probably not much help for those working in government departments using it if blind as well.
Brian
bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss"
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:03 AM
Subject: [nvda] microsoft turn round on skype
Hi all.
Today I recieved a skype update.
I was surprised I thought ms had abandond skype 7.
But no, aparently not.
If you download skype select the tablet tab and you can get classic skype.
I updated from skype itself, and I still had skype classic.
What this means, is interesting in itself.
We can choose classic again, I do wander if people complained to ms a lot and they finally saw reason.
For me it means at least for the short term till ms decides to plonk skype classic yet again I can continue to work with skype classic on win7 and maybe on 10.
I am not apposed to updating skype, but skype7 is accessible, and I have been using it for ages.
Bar the occasional calls and such there are a lot of things skype 8 and uaps are missing.
Maybe its the big improvement ms is making with skype, and maybe they realise they are not there yet.
Fact is, skype just got an update dispite what they said about an insecure installer.
That for me at least for now means progress.
Eventually I will probably get a smartphone maybe an ios device, the fact is I will have loads of uses for other forms of communication.
If skype gets to rubbish, I may simply close down skype entirely.
My ms account's main focus is mainly for knfb reader but to be hones bar the apps I purchaced there is little keeping me and microsoft online friends at all.
It used to be music, music, apps, skype.
Now its just some apps and with the apps being well who knows, and no music, there is just 1 app I brought, and skype.
Hardly any of my contacts talk on skype with me anymore bar the nvda dev group, and if it gets to hairy I will get rid of that group, there were also test groups about to for different things but I will now try to find nonskype things to do the tests with.
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers.
To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert exam.
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer
Hi,
Open office has writer (for word processing), impress (like PowerPoint), draw (for pictures), kelp (like excel), formula ((for doing math equations) and database. Open office is free and open source. I don't use jaws so I don't know how well it works with it.
Hope this helps somewhat.
Rosemarie
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Casey Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:06 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer hi what all comes with open office and is it all free? Also how well does it work with Jaws 2018 as well? On 3/27/2018 9:32 AM, zahra wrote: hi. thanks so much for list of shortcuts. for users who want to download libreoffice: www.libreoffice.org/download God bless you all!
On 3/27/18, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
very nice where could i downlode lebrea office?
----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Ballou To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:12 AM Subject: [nvda] Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer
Hi,
Here are the keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer.
Tony
Keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer
Keyboard shortcut
Command
Control-a
Select All
Control-b
Bold text
Control-c
Copies highlighted Text to the clipboard
Control-x
Cuts highlighted text to the clipboard
Control-v
Pastes the highlighted text from the clipboard to the location that you specify
keep in mind that when the text is copied, it appears in both the original and the specified location.
When the text is cut it appears in the specified location only
Control-Shift-v
Paste Special
pastes formatting, and formatted text from the clipboard
control-alt-shift-V
Pastes unformatted text from the clipboard
control-E
Centers text
Control f
Find text
Control -g
Go To
control-H
Find and replace Text
Control-I
Italicize text
Control-J
Justify Text
Control-l
Left align text
Control-r
Right align text
Control-n
Creates a new blank Document
Control-o
Brings up the open file dialog box
Control-P
Brings up the Print Dialog box
Control-S
Saves the current open Document. If it is a new one, the save as dialog box will open where you can give it a specific file name, save it with a specific file format extension such as .txt, .rtf, .doc, .docx, or in the case of programs like open and libre office, .odt; and a specific location such as a folder on your hard drive, or external storage device.
Control u
Underlines text
Control-y
redoes your last action
control-z
undoes your last action
Control-Shift-P
inserts superscript
Control-shift-b
Inserts subscript
Control-Enter
Page break
Navigation Keyboard shortcuts
left arrow
moves one character to the left
shift-left arrow
highlights the character to the left
Right arrow
moves one character to the right
Shift-right arrow
Highlights the character to the right
up arrow
moves up one line
Shift-up arrow
Highlights text in an upward direction
Down arrow
Moves down one line
Shift-down arrow
Highlights text in a downward direction
Control -left arrow
moves one word to the left
control-right arrow
moves one word to the right
Control-shift-left arrow
Highlights the word to the left
Control-Shift-right arrow
Highlights the word to the right
Control-up arrow
moves to the beginning of the previous paragraph
Control-shift-up arrow
highlights the text to the beginning of the paragraph
Control-Down arrow
Moves to the end of the paragraph
Control-Shift-down arrow
Highlights the text to the end of the paragraph
Home
Moves to the beginning of the line
shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the line
End
Moves to the end of the line
Shift-end
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the line
Control-home
moves the cursor to the beginning of the document
Control-End
Moves the cursor to the end of the document
Control-shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the document
Control-shift-end
highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the document
Page up
moves the cursor up one screen
(this is approximately 24 lines)
Page down
Moves the cursor down one screen
(This is approximately 24 lines)
Shift-page up
Highlights the text up by one screen
Shift-page down
Highlights the text down by one screen
Control-Backspace
Ce
Deletes the text to the beginning of the word
Control-delete
Deletes the text to the end of the word
Control-shift-backspace
deletes the text to the beginning of the sentence
Control-shift Delete
Deletes the text to the end of a sentence
-- Casey
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Re: I take it there have been no improvements to the flawed espeak ng in 2017.4?
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 02:34 pm, Bhavya shah wrote:
On that note, I would like to bring to your attention, Reece, the fact that ESpeak-NG’s Emoji support was specifically removed from NVDA, as far as I recollect, since it was causing major freezes/crashes with certain characters in some languages, one of which included Hindi and plagued me for a brief while as I was testing an RC build of NVDA. It would be deeply appreciated if you could take a look at what happened in this regard, because Emoji support is still something many people are desirous of, or at least I am at least.
I have identified and fixed the issue with some Tamil characters causing eSpeak NG to freeze on Sunday. I have made other various stability fixes to the codebase as well. Hopefully, that should address the main issues with enabling emoji support. Thanks, Reece
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Re: I take it there have been no improvements to the flawed espeak ng in 2017.4?

Sarah k Alawami
I actually listen at over 100 percent. I do mud, but even then I do listen at a very very fast rate wiht espeak and the 1 core and on my mac. I can even hack that to listen at about 130 percent if I wanted to.
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If you had a job that involved listening like a customer service rep, you'd have no choice but to get used to listening to your screen reader at a faster speed. I'll admit I've not heard Eloquence outside of Jaws and the addon I was sent some years back. I didn't know the version in Jaws was different to Eloquence on its own. The one in the addon I have doesn't pause very long between sentences. Also, I just do not like to speed up my synth too much. I still think of how some of you can listen to something at the highest rate possible and understand it. I've tried increasing it a little, but it's just not enjoyable for me. That said, I'm now very used to Espeak, and it may not be an improvement over Eloquence in the opinion of some, but it was definitely an improvement over Microsoft Anna, which was what I had been stuck with via Narrator until I discovered NVDA. Espeak is the voice of NVDA to me now, and other synths fall short in many ways. On 26/03/2018 7:20 PM, Gene wrote: You wrote: I don't like Eloquence because it isn't as crisp as Espeak. I have compared it to A.M radio in the past, and Espeak to FM/CD Quality sound. That is a very inaccurate comparison. E-Speak has more high end in the s sounds and the voice may have a little more high end but hardly comparable to FM radio or CD quality sound. and why is the difference of perhaps two thousand or three thousand KHZ, by my estimate, from, let's say, around 7000KHZ in Eloquence to about nine hundred or one thousand KHZ in E-Speak of any real importance? I would imagine you talk on the phone without worrying about such things. Eloquence has much better understandability of speech at higher speeds, and pronounces a lot more words correctly. Also, I don't know if you are talking about Eloquence as modified by the producers of JAWS or Eloquence, as it is unmodified. The JAWS designers customized it. If you are saying it isn't crisp because you are thinking of JAWS Eloquence, that's not an accurate representation of what unmodified Eloquence sounds like. Also, the JAWS modifiers took out pauses at periods. That seriously degrades reading, that the modified version doesn't pause at periods. You may be pleasantly surprised if you try the demo of the HTML version. If you haven't heard unmodified Eloquence, you don't know what it really sounds like. Gene
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Re: I take it there have been no improvements to the flawed espeak ng in 2017.4?
For me I grew up with synthetic voices.
The fact is, real sapi voices of high grade are good for well reading things but maybe not speech.
Ofcause the reason I have used high quality engines is because of well the lack of them in windows mainly, ms seems to have ok ish voices and while I was thinking about buying the high quality code factory voices, with all the issues with speech resetting at startup each time, I am thinking of getting and using the english accented voices for ms that ms has installed and forgetting others.
I have old scansoft 32 bit realspeaks if I want to use it but the ms voices could be almost as good.
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On 28/03/2018 3:38 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote: For me, it’s not that the eSpeak voices aren’t clear, or intelligible, it’s more that they sound too robotic, even with the settings set different. To me, all variations of eSpeak have a mechanical tone to them, not smooth like Eloquence, which although does still sound synthetic, just is less, well, mechanical sounding. However, I would select eSpeak over the more human-sounding voices if there was no Eloquence. Glenn
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 12:08 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] I take it there have been no improvements to the flawed espeak ng in 2017.4?
I'm using the American voice and it's great. I'm using the Max varient and I think he's the clearest of all the voices. The female 5 voice is pretty clear too.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 8:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] I take it there have been no improvements to the flawed espeak ng in 2017.4?
I use the american variant for espeak. It is the best one out there, I think it is the klat one I use. That sounds like chocolate to my ear.
On Mar 26, 2018, at 4:03 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward <sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com<mailto:sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I've tried other synths in the past, and know their issues from sometimes painful experience. Some of the Speech Platform voices cannot even pronounce the "n" in my name and mispronounce so many other things that it's honestly too frustrating to work with them at all. The Vocaliser voices I've tried are equally frustrating. If I somehow get them to say the word correctly, they don't stress the right syllables and I have no idea how to change that behaviour.
I may consider buying the legal Eloquence addon if it is as good as you say, but that will have to be at a time when my finances are not so tight.
On 27/03/2018 8:42 AM, Gene wrote: You don’t know how the Eloquence synthesizer would work with the dictionary you already have. Your generalization about other synthesizers is just that, a generalization. You don't know if it applies to Eloquence.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward<mailto:sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 3:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] I take it there have been no improvements to the flawed espeak ng in 2017.4?
I will add that one of my favourite features to work with in NVDA is the Speech Dictionary. Espeak might have some issues out of the box, but it is quite receptive to alternative pronunciations via the Speech Dictionary, and I have made liberal use of it. Other synths are more annoying to work with on that score.
On 27/03/2018 2:16 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
I would never use the "human sounding" voices for using the computer, however, for reading long articles, or a short book, I would not want to use something like Eloquence, or heaven's sake, not eSpeak. The human-sounding voices are good for strictly listening, where there is little or no keyboard input. Glenn
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob Hudson Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 1:12 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] I take it there have been no improvements to the flawed espeak ng in 2017.4?
Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com<mailto:linomorales001@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is what talking books are for. Regardless of what synth I use. You realize bla hearing a book ready by a speech synth would be? Boring. It would put me to sleep. But not all books are made into audio books. In fact, the vast majority are not. And if you're into online fiction, synth reading is the only game in town.
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Re: microsoft turn round on skype
Well the issue aparently was in its installer.
So ms seems to have fixed it and lets hope classic skype continues for some time yet even if it never changes, even if its never updated I can take that.
In fact unless its needed we as blind people really don't need skype updated anyway for what we use it for.
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On 28/03/2018 3:18 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: I have a feeling a lot of people got into contact with Microsoft who used Skype 7 as an accessible program for blind who were employed, and think of the scandal if the news hit the streets that blind people put out of Work by crazy Microsoft decision?
Not good on the brownie points and probably not much help for those working in government departments using it if blind as well. Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:03 AM Subject: [nvda] microsoft turn round on skype
Hi all.
Today I recieved a skype update.
I was surprised I thought ms had abandond skype 7.
But no, aparently not.
If you download skype select the tablet tab and you can get classic skype.
I updated from skype itself, and I still had skype classic.
What this means, is interesting in itself.
We can choose classic again, I do wander if people complained to ms a lot and they finally saw reason.
For me it means at least for the short term till ms decides to plonk skype classic yet again I can continue to work with skype classic on win7 and maybe on 10.
I am not apposed to updating skype, but skype7 is accessible, and I have been using it for ages.
Bar the occasional calls and such there are a lot of things skype 8 and uaps are missing.
Maybe its the big improvement ms is making with skype, and maybe they realise they are not there yet.
Fact is, skype just got an update dispite what they said about an insecure installer.
That for me at least for now means progress.
Eventually I will probably get a smartphone maybe an ios device, the fact is I will have loads of uses for other forms of communication.
If skype gets to rubbish, I may simply close down skype entirely.
My ms account's main focus is mainly for knfb reader but to be hones bar the apps I purchaced there is little keeping me and microsoft online friends at all.
It used to be music, music, apps, skype.
Now its just some apps and with the apps being well who knows, and no music, there is just 1 app I brought, and skype.
Hardly any of my contacts talk on skype with me anymore bar the nvda dev group, and if it gets to hairy I will get rid of that group, there were also test groups about to for different things but I will now try to find nonskype things to do the tests with.
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Re: I take it there have been no improvements to the flawed espeak ng in 2017.4?
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 01:42 am, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Espeakng is nice, better than espeak but I do wish the pronounciations could be corrected, I mean there was nothing wrong with the old ones.
Taking the regression in the pronunciation of "resignedly" as an example, this was caused by a fix to words like "allegedly" and "reputedly" that were misporounced in espeak. The issue is that those words without the -edly suffix end in an 'e', while "resignedly" does not. The fix ended up adding an 'e' to "resign" when removing the -edly suffix, causing it to sound strange. I did not detect this because the word list I was using to compare the old and new pronunciations did not contain "resignedly". If there are any pronunciations that are wrong, let me know and I can fix them (even if you just say which words they are). If you say things like "espeak-ng sounds wrong", or "espeak-ng is broken", then I cannot fix that as I don't know what needs changing. Additionally, from espeak I have fixed the pronunciations for: manoeuvred, reckon, Frances (the name), sponging, Southend, Austen, aurora, recollect, ignoramus, straightforward, hippopotamuses, multiple, muse, soothsay, Orion. eta. theta. zeta, lambda, delta, thermal, sage, palazzo, cherish, resemble, visage, egress, chew, praiseworthy, racquet(ball), pureblood, d's, h's, k's, o's, p's, t's, y's, z's, and more. I have also fixed sir, nosir, and yessir in the Scottish English accent.
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Re: I take it there have been no improvements to the flawed espeak ng in 2017.4?
Around US$93 according Google... You can use the installer in: http://tiflotecnia.net/eloquence_sapi5_tiflo.exeIt will works as a demo during one or two weeks. Regards, Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda. Às 18:43 de 27/03/2018, Ronald J Glaser escreveu:
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how much does that translate into for us dollars? On 3/27/2018 12:31 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello! Às 16:24 de 27/03/2018, Casey escreveu:
Hi does this have fast response time when you read with it? Yes, it haves.
Às 16:24 de 27/03/2018, Casey escreveu:
Also can you only use it with NVDA or other speech synth as well like Jaws? No, it is SAPI5, so you can use it with any app that uses SAPI5 protocole, like Narrator and so on...
Às 16:24 de 27/03/2018, Casey escreveu:
And how much does it cost to purchase this if you decide to purchase it. We are asking 75 EUR.
Best regards,
Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda.
-- a friend like You Makes The Day Go Right!
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Help Setting Up Windows 10 Laptop for Android Phone Duties?
Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
Good day!
I'm doing something that should had been done a
while ago.
I'm going to stop using my Nexus 5x phone as my
main source of receiving News, sports and Tweets.
Just purchased a FULL HD DELL LATITUDE 14
ULTRABOOK CORE™ i7 8GB 256GB SSD WINDOWS 10 LAPTOP PC to take
over these duties.
This is my question to the list.
I relied on Apps like Bleecher Report, NBC/ABC/AP
News and Twitter to receive instant push notifications to my
Android phone which was read out by TalkBack 6.1.
Is there someway for me to set this same behavior
up on the Windows 10 Ultrabook I brought?
Should I install similar apps from the MS store?
How about use the Google Chrome browser to access these apps
instead?
Just not sure which way works the best. Not only
that, works well with NVDA 2018.1?
I'm also not sure if this question is appropriate
to post to this list at all. If there's another I can post to
for assistance, please share the subscription details so I can
do so.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
-Kenny
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Re: I take it there have been no improvements to the flawed espeak ng in 2017.4?
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On Tuesday 27 March 2018 at 19:43:05, Ronald J Glaser wrote: how much does that translate into for us dollars?
On 3/27/2018 12:31 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!
Às 16:24 de 27/03/2018, Casey escreveu:
Hi does this have fast response time when you read with it? Yes, it haves.
Às 16:24 de 27/03/2018, Casey escreveu:
Also can you only use it with NVDA or other speech synth as well like Jaws? No, it is SAPI5, so you can use it with any app that uses SAPI5 protocole, like Narrator and so on...
Às 16:24 de 27/03/2018, Casey escreveu:
And how much does it cost to purchase this if you decide to purchase it. We are asking 75 EUR.
Best regards,
Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda.
-- What makes you think I know what I'm talking about? I just have more O'Reilly books than most people.
Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: I take it there have been no improvements to the flawed espeak ng in 2017.4?
how much does that translate into for us dollars?
On 3/27/2018 12:31 PM, Rui Fontes
wrote:
Hello!
Às 16:24 de 27/03/2018, Casey escreveu:
Hi does
this have fast response time when you read with it?
Yes, it haves.
Às 16:24 de 27/03/2018, Casey escreveu:
Also
can you only use it with NVDA or other speech synth as well like
Jaws?
No, it is SAPI5, so you can use it with any app that uses SAPI5
protocole, like Narrator and so on...
Às 16:24 de 27/03/2018, Casey escreveu:
And how
much does it cost to purchase this if you decide to purchase it.
We are asking 75 EUR.
Best regards,
Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.
--
a friend like You
Makes The Day Go Right!
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Re: I take it there have been no improvements to the flawed espeak ng in 2017.4?
Hi thanks for the reply.
But now if you are in the united states how much does it cost and can you demo it or hear A sample of this in use before one can purchase it to see if we would want it or not for sure?
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On 3/27/2018 12:31 PM, Rui Fontes wrote: Hello! Às 16:24 de 27/03/2018, Casey escreveu:
Hi does this have fast response time when you read with it? Yes, it haves.
Às 16:24 de 27/03/2018, Casey escreveu:
Also can you only use it with NVDA or other speech synth as well like Jaws? No, it is SAPI5, so you can use it with any app that uses SAPI5 protocole, like Narrator and so on...
Às 16:24 de 27/03/2018, Casey escreveu:
And how much does it cost to purchase this if you decide to purchase it. We are asking 75 EUR.
Best regards,
Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda.
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Casey
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Re: I take it there have been no improvements to the flawed espeak ng in 2017.4?
Hello! Às 16:24 de 27/03/2018, Casey escreveu: Hi does this have fast response time when you read with it? Yes, it haves. Às 16:24 de 27/03/2018, Casey escreveu: Also can you only use it with NVDA or other speech synth as well like Jaws? No, it is SAPI5, so you can use it with any app that uses SAPI5 protocole, like Narrator and so on... Às 16:24 de 27/03/2018, Casey escreveu: And how much does it cost to purchase this if you decide to purchase it. We are asking 75 EUR. Best regards, Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda.
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Re: Qwiklabs virtual machines
You should be able to connect to the Linux machines the way you'd connect to any Linux machine, I'd think. As for Windows, I'd try putting NVDA with NVDA Remote on the virtual machine and installing NVDA Remote on the machine you're trying to connect from, and see if that works.
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On 3/27/2018 11:56, Ali Colak wrote: Hello all, I am currently doing a course where I have to work with virtual instances of windows and Linux on google Qwiklabs environment. I have tried both using Google's chrome environment with the RDP ap, and tried using the windows remote ap. neither works with a screen reader. Any suggestions? I know that some people have worked before with bootable virtual machines before, but they were booting from an actual physical drive and not connecting remotely I believe. Thanks for your help Ali
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer
hi what all comes with open office and is it all free?
Also how well does it work with Jaws 2018 as well?
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On 3/27/2018 9:32 AM, zahra wrote: hi. thanks so much for list of shortcuts. for users who want to download libreoffice: www.libreoffice.org/download God bless you all!
On 3/27/18, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
very nice where could i downlode lebrea office?
----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Ballou To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:12 AM Subject: [nvda] Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer
Hi,
Here are the keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer.
Tony
Keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer
Keyboard shortcut
Command
Control-a
Select All
Control-b
Bold text
Control-c
Copies highlighted Text to the clipboard
Control-x
Cuts highlighted text to the clipboard
Control-v
Pastes the highlighted text from the clipboard to the location that you specify
keep in mind that when the text is copied, it appears in both the original and the specified location.
When the text is cut it appears in the specified location only
Control-Shift-v
Paste Special
pastes formatting, and formatted text from the clipboard
control-alt-shift-V
Pastes unformatted text from the clipboard
control-E
Centers text
Control f
Find text
Control -g
Go To
control-H
Find and replace Text
Control-I
Italicize text
Control-J
Justify Text
Control-l
Left align text
Control-r
Right align text
Control-n
Creates a new blank Document
Control-o
Brings up the open file dialog box
Control-P
Brings up the Print Dialog box
Control-S
Saves the current open Document. If it is a new one, the save as dialog box will open where you can give it a specific file name, save it with a specific file format extension such as .txt, .rtf, .doc, .docx, or in the case of programs like open and libre office, .odt; and a specific location such as a folder on your hard drive, or external storage device.
Control u
Underlines text
Control-y
redoes your last action
control-z
undoes your last action
Control-Shift-P
inserts superscript
Control-shift-b
Inserts subscript
Control-Enter
Page break
Navigation Keyboard shortcuts
left arrow
moves one character to the left
shift-left arrow
highlights the character to the left
Right arrow
moves one character to the right
Shift-right arrow
Highlights the character to the right
up arrow
moves up one line
Shift-up arrow
Highlights text in an upward direction
Down arrow
Moves down one line
Shift-down arrow
Highlights text in a downward direction
Control -left arrow
moves one word to the left
control-right arrow
moves one word to the right
Control-shift-left arrow
Highlights the word to the left
Control-Shift-right arrow
Highlights the word to the right
Control-up arrow
moves to the beginning of the previous paragraph
Control-shift-up arrow
highlights the text to the beginning of the paragraph
Control-Down arrow
Moves to the end of the paragraph
Control-Shift-down arrow
Highlights the text to the end of the paragraph
Home
Moves to the beginning of the line
shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the line
End
Moves to the end of the line
Shift-end
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the line
Control-home
moves the cursor to the beginning of the document
Control-End
Moves the cursor to the end of the document
Control-shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the document
Control-shift-end
highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the document
Page up
moves the cursor up one screen
(this is approximately 24 lines)
Page down
Moves the cursor down one screen
(This is approximately 24 lines)
Shift-page up
Highlights the text up by one screen
Shift-page down
Highlights the text down by one screen
Control-Backspace
Ce
Deletes the text to the beginning of the word
Control-delete
Deletes the text to the end of the word
Control-shift-backspace
deletes the text to the beginning of the sentence
Control-shift Delete
Deletes the text to the end of a sentence
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Casey
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Qwiklabs virtual machines
Hello all, I am currently doing a course where I have to work with virtual instances of windows and Linux on google Qwiklabs environment. I have tried both using Google's chrome environment with the RDP ap, and tried using the windows remote ap. neither works with a screen reader. Any suggestions? I know that some people have worked before with bootable virtual machines before, but they were booting from an actual physical drive and not connecting remotely I believe. Thanks for your help Ali
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Re: email list for open office users
Oh wow! I'm looking forward to the shorcut keys for kelp. They'll come in handy--especially since I want to start creating a budget. Thanks so much for all your help. Rosemarie
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:02 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] email list for open office users Hi Gang, I've got the keyboard shortcuts for open and libre office writer coming up. They will be in separate posts that way there's no room for confusion. Will have the open and libre office calc shortcuts for you once I get back from working out. Tony On 3/27/2018 2:13 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: You're right. The list of shortcut keys for open office and libre office will be helpful for all of us. That sort of thing is not a clutter to the list, it will help all. I save such list messages for later reference. Glenn Hi Guys, Let me dig them up and I'll make sure you get them. Tony On 3/25/2018 6:47 PM, David Moore wrote: I would really like those key commands as well Please! I am very interested in using both and picking which one appeals to me more! Thanks a lot, in advance. David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Hi, Tony, I'd love to have a list of the keyboard shortcuts for both open office and libre office. If you'd like, you can send them to me off list so we don't clutter up the list. My email address is knitqueen2007@.... Rosemarie Hi Rosemarie, I've been messing around with both open and libre offices writers for about 1 year and a half or so, and found keyboard shortcut lists for both. I also found the keyboard shortcuts for open office calc. If you want I can send you those. I'm not sure if there is an email list, for blind users of these programs though. I haven't seen anything come across the boards about one. It would be interesting to know if such list are out there. Tony On 3/23/2018 3:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: Hi, everyone, Is there an email list for open office users? I'd especially like to learn kelp and writer. Thanks for your help in advance. Rosemarie
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer
Hi, Tony, Thanks so much for these shortcut keystrokes for libre office writer. I'll keep this message for future reference. Rosemarie
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:13 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer Hi, Here are the keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer. Tony
Keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer Keyboard shortcut Command Control-a Select All Control-b Bold text Control-c Copies highlighted Text to the clipboard Control-x Cuts highlighted text to the clipboard Control-v Pastes the highlighted text from the clipboard to the location that you specify keep in mind that when the text is copied, it appears in both the original and the specified location. When the text is cut it appears in the specified location only Control-Shift-v Paste Special pastes formatting, and formatted text from the clipboard control-alt-shift-V Pastes unformatted text from the clipboard control-E Centers text Control f Find text Control -g Go To control-H Find and replace Text Control-I Italicize text Control-J Justify Text Control-l Left align text Control-r Right align text Control-n Creates a new blank Document Control-o Brings up the open file dialog box Control-P Brings up the Print Dialog box Control-S Saves the current open Document. If it is a new one, the save as dialog box will open where you can give it a specific file name, save it with a specific file format extension such as .txt, .rtf, .doc, .docx, or in the case of programs like open and libre office, .odt; and a specific location such as a folder on your hard drive, or external storage device. Control u Underlines text Control-y redoes your last action control-z undoes your last action Control-Shift-P inserts superscript Control-shift-b Inserts subscript Control-Enter Page break Navigation Keyboard shortcuts left arrow moves one character to the left shift-left arrow highlights the character to the left Right arrow moves one character to the right Shift-right arrow Highlights the character to the right up arrow moves up one line Shift-up arrow Highlights text in an upward direction Down arrow Moves down one line Shift-down arrow Highlights text in a downward direction Control -left arrow moves one word to the left control-right arrow moves one word to the right Control-shift-left arrow Highlights the word to the left Control-Shift-right arrow Highlights the word to the right Control-up arrow moves to the beginning of the previous paragraph Control-shift-up arrow highlights the text to the beginning of the paragraph Control-Down arrow Moves to the end of the paragraph Control-Shift-down arrow Highlights the text to the end of the paragraph Home Moves to the beginning of the line shift-home Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the line End Moves to the end of the line Shift-end Highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the line Control-home moves the cursor to the beginning of the document Control-End Moves the cursor to the end of the document Control-shift-home Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the document Control-shift-end highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the document Page up moves the cursor up one screen (this is approximately 24 lines) Page down Moves the cursor down one screen (This is approximately 24 lines) Shift-page up Highlights the text up by one screen Shift-page down Highlights the text down by one screen Control-Backspace Ce Deletes the text to the beginning of the word Control-delete Deletes the text to the end of the word Control-shift-backspace deletes the text to the beginning of the sentence Control-shift Delete Deletes the text to the end of a sentence
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