Developers list info
Rayn Darren <rayndarren@...>
Would anyone happen to have the developers list info? My email ate the message it was in L Thanks!
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer
Vlad Dragomir
Hello,
May I ask, what's inaccessible in LibreOffice? I've been playing with it for a while, and couldn't find any problems so far. I never tried OpenOffice though. Thanks, just being curious. Vlad.
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Re: Important advisory and plea: wxPython 4 is offline for now
Brian's Mail list account
So what is going to happen about snaps so users can try them out, is this yet another branch for nvda on a snapshot build every time there is a change, or is the intention when most of the really big gotchas are evened out to roll it back into next again.
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I have to say using next portable I've had little issues, but then i cannot see the dialogues and no doubt people want to try to get the single sheet for all s4ettings to work first, maybe. Of course when Python 3 builds start even more fun and games I'm sure! Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 5:30 PM Subject: [nvda] Important advisory and plea: wxPython 4 is offline for now Dear NVDA community,
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Re: screen reader using UEFI?
Brian's Mail list account
I think what he is sayying is what we have all said. The bios is often defaulted to use the function keys as media keys, not function keys. Changing this at bios level is impossible for the blind as obviously, no code is running. however it does transpire that a year or so back one particular laptop had a special bit of software that saved the contents of the cmos ie the bios data, and allowed one to alter things then reboot at which time the data was loaded and the configuration changed on the rebooted machine. Sadly from what I've been able to find out, this is certainly not universal, and often not done, possibly due to security concerns.
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Your only option if it is not function key changeable by some key combination, is to get a sighted person to do it. I have heard of I phone users using the short text mode of the seeing Ai App to do this, but it seems this is quite a laborious process! Good luck drag some unsuspecting sighty in and let them tell you what is going on! Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] screen reader using UEFI? I don't really understand what this has to do with UEFI (which I believe is a
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Re: Important user interface and experience change: postponing NVDA updates, now a reality
Brian's Mail list account
Yes this has been in next for some time. One word of warning. It does not always prompt to install or postpone unless you switch away and back from the screen. I don't know if perhaps it does not always know if the dialogue has changed, but its a real thing, as Its happened several times.
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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 5:26 AM Subject: [nvda] Important user interface and experience change: postponing NVDA updates, now a reality Dear NVDA community,
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Re: Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required
Brian's Mail list account
I think you need to ask on their lists, I'm not running Jaws.
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From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required Hi, What about JAWS 2018? I'm running the current version. Thanks, Jessica -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:25 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required Hi, No, 2018.1.1 is required. Although most of you are running Version 1709 or earlier, if you run 2018.1 on the latest Insider Preview build and use OneCore synthesizer, you'll notice oddities. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:16 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required I am confused myself. NVDA January 2018? So does this mean The latest version is good to go? 2018.1 On 3/28/2018 8:01 AM, Roger Stewart wrote: Where is this new version of nvda hiding?� I just ran a check for
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Re: Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required
Brian's Mail list account
Actually you will find it on the snaps page as the latest snap in the rc branch, its also on its own page so if you still have a copy of the old rc2 from the last time, say a portable version as I have it will download when you run that version.
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This problem has come up before when sub versions have been built. the updater is not programmed to look for release candidates. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required Hi, No, 2018.1.1 is required. Although most of you are running Version 1709 or earlier, if you run 2018.1 on the latest Insider Preview build and use OneCore synthesizer, you'll notice oddities. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:16 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required I am confused myself. NVDA January 2018? So does this mean The latest version is good to go? 2018.1 On 3/28/2018 8:01 AM, Roger Stewart wrote: Where is this new version of nvda hiding?� I just ran a check for
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Re: Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required
Brian's Mail list account
Its not just builds of windows, Even windows ordinary updates can get delayed I notice even on windows 7. I have no idea what logic is used, but it may well be that they limit traffic to the servers so the downloads when they happen are not too slow.
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From: "John Covici" <covici@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 6:12 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required Just wait, it takes some time after you sign up for you to get an update. Sometimes it may take a week or so and that is if you leave your machine on all the time. On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 22:43:38 -0400, Afik Suffir wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@...
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Re: Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required
Brian's Mail list account
Maybe its not able to run the new version on the language he uses as default as yet. Might be worth seeing if a UK English one would be more current.
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Not that I'm going to delve into these murky waters yet! Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 3:39 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required Hi, At this point, I advise contacting MS disability answer desk regarding this matter. Cheers, Joseph From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Afik Suffir Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:27 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required So, what should i do now? נשלח מה-iPhone שלי ב-28 במרץ 2018, בשעה 5:20, Joseph Lee < <mailto:joseph.lee22590@...> joseph.lee22590@...> כתב/ה: Hi, I see. Cheers, Joseph From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Afik Suffir Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:15 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required 1709 נשלח מה-iPhone שלי ב-28 במרץ 2018, בשעה 5:10, Joseph Lee < <mailto:joseph.lee22590@...> joseph.lee22590@...> כתב/ה: Hi, Which build of Windows 10 do you have right now? Cheers, Joseph From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Afik Suffir Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:10 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required Thanks Joseph I have regestered to windows insider program, and selected fast updates. But, there are no updates at all. What can i do? נשלח מה-iPhone שלי ב-28 במרץ 2018, בשעה 4:53, Joseph Lee < <mailto:joseph.lee22590@...> joseph.lee22590@...> כתב/ה: Hi everyone, The following advisory is rated “major” due to high impact: Toward end of development for Windows 10 Version 1803, Microsoft changed a critical component in Windows OneCore speech synthesizer (specifically, bitrate). This causes OneCore synthesizer to sound a bit funny, including higher pitch. NV Access has just released a release candidate for NVDA 2018.1.1 which will correct this problem. Because of this, you need to be running 2018.1.1 for best experience with Windows 10 Version 1803. Thank you. Cheers, Jospeh
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Yes, same here. I’ve just been trying out Apache Open Office over the last few days. I have mS Office 2010 on this computer, but it’s good to keep one’s options open, and there are some things I already like a lot about OO – must admit that even though I don’t hate MS’s ribbons as such, the classic menus are nicer.
I was thinking of taking Libre for a spin as well. Too bad if it isn’t quite accessible. But it sounds like you still recommend it….
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
I am kind of amazed so few people have heard of OO and LibreOffice. OpenOffice is far more accessible with NVDA than LO, but LO can take code directly from OO if they want to use some of the same accessibility information. LO is a better program overall. It can even give you the ability to work with documents within Google Drive without using an add on. I'm also kind of amazed more NVDA developers are not working as closely with OO and LO as they do with Microsoft Office, but there you go. Their wikis are very good if you want some more in depth keyboard navigation.
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Re: Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required
Brian's Mail list account
Yes i saw the rc this morning but do you know why Microsoft made this change is this perhaps due to the plodding nature of some of those voices by default?
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seems an odd thing to alter. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 2:53 AM Subject: [nvda] Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required Hi everyone,
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Re: Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA2018.1.1 is required
Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...>
Well can you please send the rc build?
On 3/28/2018 12:22 PM, Joseph Lee
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Re: Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required
Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...>
Can you please point me to the link to nvda 2018.1.1? I would like to get it before April and I would like to stay up to date with my windows versions.
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On 3/28/2018 1:22 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
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Re: screen reader using UEFI?
Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...>
what you seek to do cannot be done with a screen reader since accessing the EFi settings is outside the OS.
On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote: I don't really understand what this has to do with UEFI (which I believe is a
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Re: screen reader using UEFI?
Antony Stone
I don't really understand what this has to do with UEFI (which I believe is a
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replacement for BIOS in older computers). Antony.
On Wednesday 28 March 2018 at 17:52:56, Robert Kingett wrote:
I've been trying to look this up but threads and email lists and --
Someone has stolen all the toilets from New Scotland Yard. Police say they have absolutely nothing to go on. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required
Jessica D <jldail13@...>
Hi,
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What about JAWS 2018? I'm running the current version. Thanks, Jessica
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:25 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required Hi, No, 2018.1.1 is required. Although most of you are running Version 1709 or earlier, if you run 2018.1 on the latest Insider Preview build and use OneCore synthesizer, you'll notice oddities. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:16 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required I am confused myself. NVDA January 2018? So does this mean The latest version is good to go? 2018.1 On 3/28/2018 8:01 AM, Roger Stewart wrote: Where is this new version of nvda hiding?� I just ran a check for
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Re: screen reader using UEFI?
Try Mobility Center.
On 3/28/2018 11:52 AM, Robert Kingett
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Re: screen reader using UEFI?
Would sharp keys do you any good? You can remap any key on the keyboard to do what ever ou want it to do. I really love that little app.
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Re: Important user interface and experience change: postponing NVDA updates, now a reality
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Joseph,
Thanks so much for this information. This new way of updating NVDA is even better.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:26 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Important user interface and experience change: postponing NVDA updates, now a reality
Dear NVDA community,
The following is considered a major change as it’ll affect everyone who chooses to check for and download new NVDA updates:
As of March 28, 2018, a change has been made to how NVDA will present update notices. This change, now part of master snapshots (beta-level), will require you to adjust how you respond to update notices.
Specifically:
Old behavior:
New behavior:
The ability to postpone NVDA updates will be made available in NVDA 2018.2 (May 2018 at the earliest). Thank you. Cheers, Joseph
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Important advisory and plea: wxPython 4 is offline for now
Dear NVDA community,
As of March 28, 2018, wxPython 4 is no longer part of NVDA next snapshots due to compatibility issues and others. Based on data gathered during testing phase, I and NV Access staff will continue to make refinements to our support for wxPython 4.
Upon evaluating this situation, I (the chief investigator for wxPython 4 compatibility) believe more community involvement is needed going forward. Hence, the following will be done:
For users: do not think this is something you can just pass by. Your feedback regarding wxPython 4 will have a massive impact on NVDA experience for others going forward.
For add-on writers: make sure your add-ons are compatible. As add-ons are now an integral part of a user’s NVDA experience, we want to make sure our add-ons are working as advertised.
For NVDA Core developers: please keep wxPython 4 in mind when you write GUI code and others having to do with wxPython features. Keep your feedback coming.
Thank you. Cheers, Joseph
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