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Re: loading nvda not there
Payal Kapoor
hi
i've just tried using Alt+Ctrl to load and unload NVDA and it works justt fine. i've just upgraded to the latest version out yesterday. On 3/30/18, Joe Hunter via Groups.Io <joehunter@...> wrote: Hi all, since installing via the updater of version 18.1 and the current
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Re: Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA2018.1.1 is required
Well its worth noting that on my win7 system you don't seem to get it at all.
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In win10 2017.9 you do, I assume that its os spaciffic or something anyway 2018.1.1 is only needed on win10.
On 29/03/2018 5:22 a.m., abdul muhamin wrote:
How can we get NVDA 2018.1.1
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Re: Advisory: if upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1803, NVDA 2018.1.1 is required
The latest realtech drivers are on windows update, you can try the official broken 2.82 drivers from realtech's site, ms will not install over the top of official drivers.
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You can try other versions 2.81, 2.80, 2.78.
On 28/03/2018 3:27 p.m., Afik Suffir wrote:
So, what should i do now?
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loading nvda not there
Joe Hunter <joehunter@...>
Hi all, since installing via the updater of version 18.1 and the current 18.1.1 the ability to load and unload keys of alt and ctrl plus n does not seem to work. Has this changed as when I open insert 1 to open help to determine what key does what, it does not appear to be there either. Joe
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Re: Excerpt from Espeak NG list
Reece H. Dunn
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 01:29 am, Gene wrote:
It is not an additional "g", it is the "n" sound before a "k" or "g" in words like "sing", "king", and "sink". Within words, this process happens naturally. Across words, that process may happen (especially when the words are spoken quickly, or with little pause between them). Specifically, the "k" and "g" sounds are made by moving the back of your tongue to the back of your mouth (the velum). An "n" sound is made by touching the front of your tongue to the front of your mouth, but before a "k" or "g" sound (especially when done quickly), your tongue moves to the back of your mouth in preparation of making the "k" or "g" sound, so that "n" has a different sound to things like "no", or "none". This is a process called velarization.
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Re: station play studio. question
anthony borg
Hi rosemarie
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Joseph has replied to my question. So don't worry. Best regards Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: 29 March 2018 21:31 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] station play studio. question Hi, Anthony, I've never used that program but I'm sure there are others on here who could help you with that. Rosemarie -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony borg Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 12:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] station play studio. question Hi folks Can somebody explain to me on how to use the station play studio please? Thanks in advance Anthony
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Re: station play studio. question
anthony borg
Hi joseph
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Many thanks for the info regarding the station play studio. I best regards Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: 29 March 2018 21:33 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] station play studio. question Hi Anthony, SPL is used by broadcasters for broadcasting shows online. You don't need this program unless you are a broadcaster. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 12:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] station play studio. question Hi, Anthony, I've never used that program but I'm sure there are others on here who could help you with that. Rosemarie -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony borg Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 12:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] station play studio. question Hi folks Can somebody explain to me on how to use the station play studio please? Thanks in advance Anthony
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Re: Excerpt from Espeak NG list
Gene
Equally valid in what dialect? I've never
heard it in any american or Brittish dialect I've heard. On what basis do
the people making such decisions base their beliefs? Are they just from
listening or does anyone working on pronunciation have a real background in the
subject? I realize this is a voluntary oepn source project but if this
hasn't been done, shouldn't there be an attempt to recruit someone with a
reasonable background in whatever the science is called that we are dealing
with, perhaps a linguist or dialectician? I'm not sure what the speciality
should be called.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Reece H. Dunn
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Excerpt from Espeak NG list Now I'm not getting at anyone here, but although the message below isIt would help to read the follow up where I have modified it so it no longer does that between words. Both pronunciation styles are equally valid and I prefer the change I made, but I respect that the change was not well supported (or at least not by the vocal majority). Everything you and others have raised I have fixed or tried to fix, yet you still complain in an unconstructive way (like your post to the NVDA developers list). Pointing out issues is fine. Being constructively critical is fine (like Tyler Spivey's comments in another thread). Also bear in mind that I and others are doing this in our spare time for free. Here is the post...
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Re: station play studio.
anthony borg
Hi rosemarie By any chance, do you have any tutorial for station play studio please? Regards Anthony
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 29 March 2018 22:42 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: station play studio.
Hi, everyone,
I figured out what happened. The confirmation message went to my spam folder so I went to the gmail site and told it that that message isn't spam.
Rosemarie
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Re: Excerpt from Espeak NG list
Gene
This is not done in English. I've never heard
anything even remotely like what is being stated as being in spoken, rather than
written English.
If the claim is being made as reported in the below
message, it is not partly or marginally incorrect, it is completely
incorrect. In two words like can get, the n is held and the g is smoothly
spoken at the instant the n sound is ended. There is no additional g nor
even a hint of one. And that's the way things are generally.
Gene
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Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 2:57 AM
Subject: [nvda] Excerpt from Espeak NG list related to a very new incarnation of the synth, it kind of makes the point made in a previous thread on here about the changes being made to Espeak which do not sit well with users. Here is the post... I have no axe to grind here, except that it has been my experience too that some pronunciations are dismissed as OK when they are not. [espeak-ng:master] New Issue Created by Trix-Maiden: #443 Velarisation in Espeak NG is too pronounced I've brought this up before as well, but I want to do so again here, in less abrasive language. The current way Espeak ng processes velarisation puts too much emphasis on it. Any word ending with an "N" that precedes one starting with a hard "g" or "c" sounds as if there is an extra "g" at the end of it before the next word begins. "Ing case", "wung game" "cang get", etc. The last time I brought up this issue, I was told this is how these words sound when spoken by humans, but I would disagree. Not to say this doesn't happen, but it isn't lingered over the way it is in the current release of Espeak ng. In previous versions, the transitions between these words sounded natural enough to my ears, and this version over-emphasises the velarisation to the point of it being unnatural. (Note: I do not type "one" like that, but I had to alter spellings to simulate the pronunciation issue as clearly as possible to another blind person.) _._,_._,_ ==== Things I've moaned about like offen instead of often keep coming back as well, now this person knows the right term to use for the issue they are raising but mnay of us would not know how to actually describe it, and I feel that is part of the issue when reporting oddities and getting ehem fixed. Just saying, and I do hope somebody who understands such things can pass on some of the comments I've seen on here to the right people to get them put back as they were originally. Thanks and have a nice day to all. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Re: Excerpt from Espeak NG list
Reece H. Dunn
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 12:57 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Now I'm not getting at anyone here, but although the message below isIt would help to read the follow up where I have modified it so it no longer does that between words. Both pronunciation styles are equally valid and I prefer the change I made, but I respect that the change was not well supported (or at least not by the vocal majority). Everything you and others have raised I have fixed or tried to fix, yet you still complain in an unconstructive way (like your post to the NVDA developers list). Pointing out issues is fine. Being constructively critical is fine (like Tyler Spivey's comments in another thread). Also bear in mind that I and others are doing this in our spare time for free. Here is the post...
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Re: NVDA Chinese writing
Gene
The default choice in that combo box is user
default. this suggests that the computer itself is set to the wrong
language. This should be checked because if it isn't, it will cause
problems. I suspect, though I don't know this, that other programs will
use the wrong language and I suspect Narrator will as well.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing To set nvda to English, Open general settings in nvda nvda+ctrl+G You will then be in a combo box for language So if you press the letter E then English will be selected in the combo box Then hit ok then nvda will be in English
Hopefully 😃
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Excerpt from Espeak NG list
Brian's Mail list account
Now I'm not getting at anyone here, but although the message below is related to a very new incarnation of the synth, it kind of makes the point made in a previous thread on here about the changes being made to Espeak which do not sit well with users.
Here is the post... I have no axe to grind here, except that it has been my experience too that some pronunciations are dismissed as OK when they are not. [espeak-ng:master] New Issue Created by Trix-Maiden: #443 Velarisation in Espeak NG is too pronounced I've brought this up before as well, but I want to do so again here, in less abrasive language. The current way Espeak ng processes velarisation puts too much emphasis on it. Any word ending with an "N" that precedes one starting with a hard "g" or "c" sounds as if there is an extra "g" at the end of it before the next word begins. "Ing case", "wung game" "cang get", etc. The last time I brought up this issue, I was told this is how these words sound when spoken by humans, but I would disagree. Not to say this doesn't happen, but it isn't lingered over the way it is in the current release of Espeak ng. In previous versions, the transitions between these words sounded natural enough to my ears, and this version over-emphasises the velarisation to the point of it being unnatural. (Note: I do not type "one" like that, but I had to alter spellings to simulate the pronunciation issue as clearly as possible to another blind person.) _._,_._,_ ==== Things I've moaned about like offen instead of often keep coming back as well, now this person knows the right term to use for the issue they are raising but mnay of us would not know how to actually describe it, and I feel that is part of the issue when reporting oddities and getting ehem fixed. Just saying, and I do hope somebody who understands such things can pass on some of the comments I've seen on here to the right people to get them put back as they were originally. Thanks and have a nice day to all. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Re: In-Process 29th March 2018 is out including NVDA 2018.1.1
Brian's Mail list account
Yes, but the actual info on the full path to the rc which is up of 2018.1.1 is not given and the RC is only downloaded from the rc on the users machine if it exist,
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The full release seems not to be up yet, which is OK if its on rc2 now. However in this list there is usually some announcement about it and there has not been from the emails I've got at any rate. I have posted a link to my dropbox version of the rc2 for those who want it. I just wondered whose job it was to post that the new release or rc is in fact up and where to find it? Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:28 AM Subject: [nvda] In-Process 29th March 2018 is out including NVDA 2018.1.1 Hi everyone,
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Re: NVDA Chinese writing
Chris
To set nvda to English, Open general settings in nvda nvda+ctrl+G You will then be in a combo box for language So if you press the letter E then English will be selected in the combo box Then hit ok then nvda will be in English
Hopefully 😃
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Re: Chrome Browser
Gene
Perhaps I should have said turning off speech is a
two stroke command. Pressing NVDA key and then s might be considered two
strokes and turning speech on without the add on might be a three stroke
command. I'm not sure just what counts as a stroke. Whatever the
case, the commands are very short and easy to execute.
Gene
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Turning off speech with NVDA key s is a very easy
one stroke command. turning it on again is a two stroke command or,
if you use the add on, a one stroke command. My point isn't that there is
no way to turn suggestions off, I assume there is. My point is that unless
or until the way this is done is found in whatever program is being used, it is
very easy to stop such speech.
Gene
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Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 2:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Chrome Browser irritating. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Chrome Browser How fast are you typing? If you either type quickly or turn off speech, you won't hear anything. You likely know this but do you know that anytime you want to interrupt speech, you can just keep typing anywhere? You will probably get a solution but I'm discussing this as a general principle. I never bother with such settings because I type fast enough that I don't hear such information but if I ever start to hear it, maybe because I'm typing more slowly, I just keep typing. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: John Isige Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 9:25 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Chrome Browser Has anybody solved this issue with chrome? I have every predictive thing turned off, but when I start typing in the address bar, I hear stuff like, suppose I'm typing in mandolin cafe. I type an m, I hear "m andolessons dot com", I type an 'a' and then maybe it thinks I mean something else so I hear "mathmaze dot com selected instead", and so on. It's really pretty annoying, particularly since I don't want it to do that. Just let me type a URL and be done with it. Quit trying to figure out where I might want to go, like I told you to. On 3/29/2018 17:42, Andy wrote: > Yes, it works well, and Chrome is so much faster than other browsers. > It has become my go to browser. > > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 3:37 PM > Subject: [nvda] Chrome Browser > > > Is the Chrome browser accessible with NVDA? Is it worth trying? >
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Re: Chrome Browser
Gene
Turning off speech with NVDA key s is a very easy
one stroke command. turning it on again is a two stroke command or,
if you use the add on, a one stroke command. My point isn't that there is
no way to turn suggestions off, I assume there is. My point is that unless
or until the way this is done is found in whatever program is being used, it is
very easy to stop such speech.
Gene
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Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 2:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Chrome Browser irritating. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Chrome Browser How fast are you typing? If you either type quickly or turn off speech, you won't hear anything. You likely know this but do you know that anytime you want to interrupt speech, you can just keep typing anywhere? You will probably get a solution but I'm discussing this as a general principle. I never bother with such settings because I type fast enough that I don't hear such information but if I ever start to hear it, maybe because I'm typing more slowly, I just keep typing. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: John Isige Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 9:25 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Chrome Browser Has anybody solved this issue with chrome? I have every predictive thing turned off, but when I start typing in the address bar, I hear stuff like, suppose I'm typing in mandolin cafe. I type an m, I hear "m andolessons dot com", I type an 'a' and then maybe it thinks I mean something else so I hear "mathmaze dot com selected instead", and so on. It's really pretty annoying, particularly since I don't want it to do that. Just let me type a URL and be done with it. Quit trying to figure out where I might want to go, like I told you to. On 3/29/2018 17:42, Andy wrote: > Yes, it works well, and Chrome is so much faster than other browsers. > It has become my go to browser. > > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 3:37 PM > Subject: [nvda] Chrome Browser > > > Is the Chrome browser accessible with NVDA? Is it worth trying? >
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Re: NVDA Chinese writing
Brian's Mail list account
I'm not really sure what you mean here.
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Aware you saying that its set to chinese, and trying to read English as if it were Chinese? The language setting must have been tweaked for this. Look in the preferences and see what its actually set to. Normally its system default, which is usually what it says it is, the language windows uses. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Darrel Hughes via Groups.Io" <darrel71@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 1:15 AM Subject: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing Helo everybody I am quite new to NVDA and I speak English and do not understand Chinese writing at all. For some reason my NVDA has only Chinese writing. Does anyone have a solution? Thanks Darrel
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Re: Chrome Browser
Brian's Mail list account
I cannot type fast enough to stop this kind of thing. its intensely irritating.
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Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Chrome Browser How fast are you typing? If you either type quickly or turn off speech, you won't hear anything. You likely know this but do you know that anytime you want to interrupt speech, you can just keep typing anywhere? You will probably get a solution but I'm discussing this as a general principle. I never bother with such settings because I type fast enough that I don't hear such information but if I ever start to hear it, maybe because I'm typing more slowly, I just keep typing. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: John Isige Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 9:25 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Chrome Browser Has anybody solved this issue with chrome? I have every predictive thing turned off, but when I start typing in the address bar, I hear stuff like, suppose I'm typing in mandolin cafe. I type an m, I hear "m andolessons dot com", I type an 'a' and then maybe it thinks I mean something else so I hear "mathmaze dot com selected instead", and so on. It's really pretty annoying, particularly since I don't want it to do that. Just let me type a URL and be done with it. Quit trying to figure out where I might want to go, like I told you to. On 3/29/2018 17:42, Andy wrote: Yes, it works well, and Chrome is so much faster than other browsers.
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Re: NVDA Chinese writing
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi
Where abouts is the writing? is it in the nvda menus? so all the menus are in another language? or do you mean when you are reading say a email and now and again you hear it speaking like in another language??
Gene nz
On 3/30/2018 1:15 PM, Darrel Hughes via Groups.Io wrote:
Helo everybody --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers.
To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert exam.
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